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25835 No. 25835 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I've been thinking about what separates serial killers, like Jeffrey Dahmer in particular, from neets, otaku, waifuists and other such people. Those who don't know anything about Dahmer's personality assume he had aspd(psycopath), but there's more to suggest he had some cluster a disorder. From what I gathered, he didn't commit violence for its own sake, but as a means to use people for sexual gratification and company. He desperately wanted permanent company and a dead body could not abandon him, he killed people when they wanted to leave. What he really wanted though was a mindless slave to be his companion.

On a surface level, some qualities seem shared like a fixation on certain topics, loneliness, inability and or lack of desire to form normal relationships, poor impulse control, living in an internal world and perhaps less than average emotional empathy. Multiple people on tonho-chan have also wrote that they either suspect they are a schizoid or have been diagnosed as one. So if anything, what's that key difference? Is it just better impulse control? Different sexual tastes? More empathy? Different circumstances? Could it be that being more misanthropic decreases the chances a person will kill others for some gratification? Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I'd like to cut through the moralizing and get to some kind of answer.

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>> No. 26281 [Edit]
>>26280
They're dumb until they trick and or kill you.
>> No. 26284 [Edit]
>>26281
I'm talking about gangbangers and families with anger issues getting in arguments that escalate to one of them shooting up the other. If schizophrenics are more deceptive and cruel killers, then they only have more self control than the "normal" supposedly nonviolent people. I watched my cousins almost kill each other many times.
>> No. 26288 [Edit]
>>26284
Schizoids are different from schizophrenics, but I get what you're saying. Your cousins know each other though.
>> No. 26291 [Edit]
>>26288
Most people who kill each other usually do. I wonder if the only "weird" thing about serial killers is that they kill strangers? Is it considered more socially acceptable to kill someone that you personally disliked?

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20209 No. 20209 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
My parents are doing so many things for my younger sibling that they never did when I was growing up. Now it's too late to fix a lot of my problems.

They're helping her apply to college. They're going to pay for her college. They've given her tips on applications and resumes. They make sure she's involved in their local circles and help her do networking. They make sure she gets help for her shortcomings. They make sure she has emotional support. They spend time with her. They don't yell at her. I wish they did these things with me. But they didn't.

It just makes me so angry and jealous and I don't know what to do or feel. I feel like their actions indicate that I'm not even a person.

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>> No. 20228 [Edit]
>>20227
He's right they do, many simply do it without even realizing it.
>> No. 21377 [Edit]
>>20209
CONFRONTATION
Tell those to two exactly what they are putting you trough
Get your parents in a room sit em down no sister aloud, tell them not to give any input until you have gotten everything out, just spill it on them. then hear what they have to tell you.
>> No. 21381 [Edit]
>>20213
>while women do indeed do better in some professions
>why people think that women are either equal to men or better
>think that it is a shared delusion among society
Uh, what the fuck? This is the most inexplicable shit I've read in a while. Surely the feminist propaganda where you're from can't be this blatant and insane.
>> No. 26283 [Edit]
>>20215
My parents split up 4 rooms between 6 kids by putting each girl in a room and the 3 boys in one room. I was the oldest child yet i never got a private space even one, they even resented it when I turned part of the basement into a little office for myself. My sisters were given expensive dancing lessons and private tutors while my brothers and I were sent to public school and sent out to work at 18. You be the judge.

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25942 No. 25942 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Have you given any thought to what would become of your stuff when you die? Do you have any plans set for parting it out among friends and family, or does it not matter to you?
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>> No. 26208 [Edit]
>>26205
Yeah, I'll definitely be appreciating life when I'm dead. Idiot.
>> No. 26209 [Edit]
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>>26208
He meant life's finitude is what makes every moment worthy of appreciation, anon.
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>> No. 26272 [Edit]
>>26209
No, he's got a point. How can I appreciate something if I can't have it for eternity? Maybe my appetite is too large for a human but that's how I feel all the same.

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25719 No. 25719 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How is your mental condition? From a functional point of view.

I'm really worried about this. Any issue I could have is getting worse with the years and I'm developing new ones.
My hands don't respond well, I drop things or do weird shit like getting stuck in a certain movement. Sometimes I just fall or lose my balance. I get my clothes hooked with all kinds of stuff, like doors, and I haven't seen a person with the same problem in my life.
I confuse numbers, like my own phone number, directions and names. But I'm also starting to confuse words and sounds. Let's say I want to say "psychology" and suddenly I don't know if I should say "psychologist", "psychology" or psychologic". Or I want to say or write "come on" and I say "common", "coming", "cumming" or who knows what dumb shit. Sometimes I just forget words or half a sentence so I just end with an absolute nonsense that I can't even understand myself. Other issues include repeating things (maybe I even posted this before but I can't know for sure), getting extremely disoriented while going anywhere and being unable to focus on anything (I can't even properly watch an episode of anime because of this). Sometimes I'm reading a book and I have to turn back and reread the last 20 pages because I've literally no idea about what I've been reading in the last ten minutes.

It seems like alzheimer or the kind of illness you start to suffer when you're old, senile and about to die soon, but I'm in my 30's.
I heard lack (I just wrote "like" in place of "lack", noticed minutes later while rereading) of social interaction can deteriorate your cognition but this is just too much and it's not like I've been the last ten years in a desert island.
It could be something worse like a brain tumour, actual alzheimer (it's rare but it can start in your 30's) or some similar disease.
But I don't see what I can do about it. I can't go to a doctor because I don't believe in them and this is an issue that would require lots of effort to get a dyagnose. I want to improve my enviroment and mindset to see if it can help, but if it's something serious I'm
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>> No. 25793 [Edit]
My OCD is getting worse and better at the same time, I stopped eating my mothers cooking and I decided that when I move out I will have to leave thousands of dollars worth of books and furniture behind. But I am converting more on waifu 2x and my hands have improved. It's still incredibly exhausting though, every morning I wake up dreading the day because I know how I will have to walk on a mine field to avoid touching or seeing anything and I know how much effort that takes.

>>25737
Maybe, I saw my GP to talk to him about getting help for it. My GP was worried about me because the last Psych he sent me to for something else saw me, was meant to write a report to him but then never sent it to him and he had not heard from me for two years.
>> No. 26265 [Edit]
Sorry for bumping this thread, but it was the closest I could find: (http://tohno-chan.com/so/arch/res/1767.html is an even better match, but that's archived)

Does anyone have any experience with (and hopefully solutions to prevent) overthinking/dwelling, both on past events and future decisions? For instance, I'll often ruminate on a past decision I made and lament about how if I had only done something else the present would be different. It's similar to what the OP of that previous linked thread stated
>I can't stop thinking in the smallest mistakes over and over, like a loud speaker on my head

but for me at least it's not necessarily limited to "mistakes" but also any past decision made in the lack of "perfect information" (i.e. decisions made in the face of some uncertainty). Then later on in the present when the outcome of that decision has been realized resulting in new information, I'll sit there thinking in circles simulating the past decision in light of that new knowledge, wondering whether I should have picked the other option. Of course logically I know that such rumination is pointless, but emotionally/subconsciously I'll continue to dwell on it. The same happens for past decisions whose outcome isn't known yet but has already predetermined as a result of that choice (i.e. at this point the outcome is uncontrollable, so there's no logical point ruminating about it; and yet I still can't help myself). I'll also similarly overthink decisions that have yet to be made (one can see a common theme of "fear of uncertainty").

There's probably an element of (self-diagnosed) ocd thrown in amidst all of that too (I've faced similar situations to that scene in Slow Start where Hana found a loose screw on the floor and couldn't go to sleep without finding the source. And perhaps ironically spent the past hour researching ocd symptoms; the "classic" symptoms mentioned online don't seem to apply, except for the general element of overthinking).

As someone in that aforementioned thread stated
>For psychological and neurological reasons, rumination gets worse t
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>> No. 26269 [Edit]
>>26265
I don't overthink about decisions I made because I think I'm actually good at making them, I don't feel too much regreet over any big decision in last years. I also don't need to make that many decisions to start with.
So I focus my overthinking in stupid inane shit, even the most insignificant. I could simply trip into someone or cause a minor inconvenience and something like that can take me into an spiral of overthinking and guilt to the point I could remember the event even years (or decades) later. It's really sick if you think about it.
>> No. 26601 [Edit]
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>>26265
I think my spirals of overthinking have basically developed into full-blown OCD. The sentence from >>25793
> every morning I wake up dreading the day because I know how I will have to walk on a mine field to avoid touching or seeing anything and I know how much effort that takes.
Now resonates with me – I spend whatever free time I have wasting mental energy thinking about trivial things. I feel like I haven't been able to relax for half a year now (And even if I somehow stumbled upon an opportunity where my mind was vacant, I fear that I wouldn't even be able to start on the only relaxing activity that I had in the past – watching anime – as watching it in my shambled state and being unable to appreciate it would be a disservice to the shows themselves).

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25750 No. 25750 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How do you feel when people laugh at you?
There's still pride inside you? You can still feel the pain of getting humiliated? Maybe have you reached nirvana or just don't give a fuck?
I still feel the pain. Sometimes I feel my only function in earth is to be a laughing stock or someone that can be ordered or just mistreated by literally everyone so the other humans feel better about themselves. I feel like this is a function that has been determined, socially, and also genetically. From a really early age. It doesn't help that I get laughed because my walking, my voice or my face, the most basics things of my being.
If you're also a ridiculous creature, how do you deal with this?
I just would like this eternal high school to end someday.
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>> No. 26238 [Edit]
>>26233
being snippy gives you cancer
>> No. 26239 [Edit]
>>26238
My post wasn't intended to sound like "it's a pretty basic rule, I can't believe you haven't heard of it you absolute scrub", but more along the lines of "Oh, you haven't read them? Well, that rule is a pretty major one so keep it in mind when posting in the future and expect it to be enforced pretty consistently".
>> No. 26259 [Edit]
>>26239
My bad fam
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24516 No. 24516 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Tomorrow I will be going to a neurologist. I have been keeping up the masquerade and going through the motions for many years already, and I think that I can't fool anyone anymore.
People can tell that I'm not one of them, several incidents in the lasts days have ascertained me of that. My parents told me last night that the have already booked a appointment with a neurologist to whom they are acquainted with, and that is set for tomorrow.
I'm somewhat concerned with this, I'm afraid of what I would have to reveal, and the implications of such, but refusing to go doesn't seem like an option. Can someone who's been through this give some advice? Even if you have never been in a similar situation, I would appreciate your assessment.
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>> No. 26219 [Edit]
So I went to some autism specialist. She said she could give an autism card, that I could use at university and things similar to not need to do these group work projects. She would need to talk to my mother first, and after that it would be necessary that my mother talks with university or whatever else. Should I ask for her to deliver me this card? Thing is, I'm afraid that I might go on a list or something of autists and lose some opportunities in the future, also that my mother would see me differently after this.
>> No. 26220 [Edit]
>>26219
I can understand getting a card like that for certain things(single person dorm room), but avoiding group work seems like shooting yourself in the foot. Almost every job requires working in a group at some point or another.
>> No. 26221 [Edit]
>>26219
>she could give an autism card
Does she mean a medical certificate or a physical card? If it's the latter, I can't say I'd heard of such a thing. Googling it gives a bit more context, but handing over a card to people you meet seems pointless when it'd be easier to just remain silent and be thought as that "weird guy." I don't think the card itself really gives you any specific medical exemption (unlike e.g. those handicap ones), you'd just be relying on the goodwill of the person you present the card to. For universities, that would involve working with their disability/accomodations office to come to some arrangement. That seems orthogonal to having a physical card delivered to you.

> I might go on a list or something of autists
No such thing. I don't think you'd even have to mention it on job applications unless you think it's the type of job that would be hard to perform for you (in which case why apply to it?)

>I ask for her to deliver me this card
If it were me, I would not since there seems to be zero material benefit.

>>26220
Yes I agree that things like single person dorm would be very useful. But unless I'm misunderstanding that would only need proof of medical diagnosis, not a physical card. Group work is also highly overrated; even at uni the majority of people there will do the least amount of work possible. By contrast my experience in the workforce has been a lot more pleasant (probably dependent on the specific worplace as well; a selective firm is going to be more easy to get along with in than a minimum-wage one with little qualifications required) as people will genuinely cooperate to get things done.

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>> No. 26231 [Edit]
>>26221
Well, I meant an actual certificate. Like stating this man has autism verified by X and X.

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25962 No. 25962 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
At what point in your life did you realize you don't belong? Did some event make this clear to you or did you simply think it over and walk away from everyone? How did you feel when it happened? How did you feel later or now?
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>> No. 26217 [Edit]
>>25966
Ok Mr. Starseed
>> No. 26223 [Edit]
>>26062
I don't think there's anything wrong with just being lonely, we're on the ronery board after all, posters also shouldn't be talking or humble-bragging about being chased by girls. Not because I'm jealous, but because it does subtly invite exactly the kind of stupid jealously shit and normalfag shitflinging as you can see in this chain of posts. It's also just a good thing to avoid straight up blogging on imageboards as much as possible, in my opinion. I agree with you that posting about jealously for 3dpd doesn't belong but neither does posting about it in the first place. No good comes from the wizchan purity spiral, because both results end up either with actual toxic normalfags, who hate 2D and see it as a "cope" for losers, or such exclusive wizards that they think 2D is too attached to females, desiring a female, etc. and want it banned from their site on the basis that it's cope for failed normalfag losers. I think you can see where I'm going with this and why this might be a problem for a website populated by those with waifus.
>> No. 26229 [Edit]
>>26223
That wizchan purity spiral sounds like an extension of society's Freudian obsession with people's intentions. If they have the wrong reasons for liking something, that's enough to ostracize them. People can't just enjoy things. I suspect that if those people tried to enjoy 2d, they would be unable to because they would be keep thinking about how much of a loser they are to be watching it instead of doing normal things or whatever. I don't see what's bad about "coping" either. That's how people deal with adversity, they cope. Since when has that been a bad thing? Is wallowing in misery and self-denial supposed to be more respectable? Upside down world.
>> No. 26230 [Edit]
>>26229
>I don't see what's bad about "coping" either.

Because you're supposed to be and look like a perfect being without flaws, a handsome, intelligent, turbochad that is so fucking great he doesn't even need females. If you go further most of internet talking is basically an exercise on narcicism and nothing more.
Actually, wizchan and all of it's mindset was nothing more than a group of early 20's and younger "normals" predating and making fun of a few actually fucked up individuals that got even more fucked up as a result.

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26067 No. 26067 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Have you found recently or in the past any small matrix-hacks that make your life better in any way? Something that makes it less tiresome, cheaper, helps to sleep, helps to deal with people or whatever.
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>> No. 26073 [Edit]
>>26072
I gave it some thought and I don't think the coin method could work for me at all. Thinking about some of the important decisions I've taken in last years, I never really wanted to take them because I'm insecure and felt fear, so by all means I would have preffered the coin to give me the most passive outcome. But all those decisions were absolutely correct and have improved, or even saved, my life.
It's like needing surgery and you have to decide to take it or not, if you're a coward fuck you will want to avoid the situation at all costs, even if it ends killing you, you will lie to yourself if necessary. So what do you "want" is not necessarily what do you "need".
>> No. 26076 [Edit]
>>26073
That's part of the coin method I didn't mention. You'll start whining about best 2/3, and then just stop because you know the easy route is a terrible decision. So you chin up and do what you actually need. Usually. It's a way I've found to cut down on my indecisiveness.
>> No. 26083 [Edit]
>>26073
>>26076
Same here. I usually already know what I want to do and it is often not what I should do. It's hedonism vs "go and get shit done".

As for being a character and accepting that I'm bad: It's not like I have a problem with talking or that situations intimidate me. Simply, the more I interact with the normie world the more emotionally drained and disturbed I become.
Might be my fault.
>> No. 26204 [Edit]
In windows, you can use the task scheduler to make your computer do certain things at a specific time. I made a bunch of tasks that put my computer to sleep in ten minute intervals. While I could just get it out of sleep mode every single time, it's gotten me to go to sleep earlier. You could also schedule your computer to shut down like that.

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26084 No. 26084 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
Do you guys get angry or depressed when thinking about sex? I normally do, especially when continuously exposed to pornographic material of any sort or sometimes when going out. The inexistent propects of sexual life for my are quite saddening. Does anyone else feel the same?
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>>26095
True that, though I wouldn't put it so aggressively.

It bothers me how this stuff consooms people's lives, makes them depressed and jeopardizes their judgement and decision-making capabilities.
I know way too many cases of people in shitty relationships and life situations, blue pilled by coitus.

I'm currently in a 2D relationship, but even before that I had sworn celibacy for personal development reasons, influenced by the aforementioned.
Now that I think about it, it was probably all of this combined that made me receptive to 2D love.

Either way, don't feel like I'm missing anything at all. In fact, quite the opposite.

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>> No. 26153 [Edit]
>>26096
>consooms
>blue pilled
And so thus this island too was reduced to a vestige as it began to sink under the weight of overseas lexicon.
>>26095
Maybe it should be moved to /tat/? It doesn't seem to have produced much fruitful discussion and to me seems like a blight on the other threads.
>> No. 26154 [Edit]
>>26097
I don't know why people insist on repeating the same stupid lingo of the week everywhere. I wouldn't be able to write that without being embarrassed.

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>> No. 26155 [Edit]
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>>26097
I would've locked it, but your suggestion might be better.

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25770 No. 25770 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What do you think would happen if you had a kid? The scenario doesn't matter, imagine you miraculously had a kid, what now? What kind of parent do you think you'd be? How do you think they would turn out?

On one hand the idea of having that much influence over another person has some appeal, on the other hand there's no guarantee they'll turn out the way you want. If they end up being shitty, it could be absolutely painful. While I wouldn't want them to be a normalfag, if they aren't they'd probably have a miserable life. It's a lose lose situation. I don't think I would be good at it.

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>> No. 25831 [Edit]
>>25829
I think one of my biggest disappointments in life has been to discover people doesn't really give a shit about anything except the usual topics. What for a minority are passions for the majority will always be nothing more than pastimes.
And giving a shit about something isn't particularly well seen, like my father always told me how I was "obsessed" everytime I got into a particular interest, and that was really bad.
And I understand their point, it's probably necessary for the species to be like that and stick into social and physical relations over all other things, but I will not be the fucker that gets bored and depressed when he gets old, retires or suddenly gets some considerable free time. What it's good for the species isn't necessarily good for the individual.
>> No. 25832 [Edit]
>>25770
I'm not a violent or sexually perverted person, so my kids would at the very least not be physically abused.
I actually think about child rearing a lot, and I think I could do a good job as a dad in terms of getting them well-educated (e.g. teaching them at least 3 languages from the time they're babies, getting them into computer programming, math and electronics at a young age, teaching them how to think critically and do their own research on topics like politics) and healthy (I know a lot about nutrition because when I became an adult I had to get rid of the morbid obesity that my mother's care had left me with, and I would see to it that they spend a lot of time doing sports and training their bodies). I wouldn't let them watch much TV and instead teach them more beneficial ways of entertaining themselves.

In many ways, I'd be a much better father than the one I had.
Thing is, they will end up severely emotionally neglected unless they have a mother who can compensate for my coldness, and I cannot imagine that I'd be able to put up with a woman's shit for years and years without eventually killing myself.
>> No. 26020 [Edit]
My dad is a lot more normal than me in a lot of ways, but I think it's a good vision at what happens when someone who isn't very normal has kids. For the record, I don't hate him for it and I have to thank him for a lot of my perspectives on reality. He had few if any friends growing up, I believe he has some form of autism/aspergers. He impressed a lot of his hobbies onto me, that's not really anything that went wrong though. I like his hobbies a lot, he was into lots of good stuff like building scale models, learning about history, stuff I really do like. But there was a lot of physical violence when he got angry, I had welts on my back quite often and his mental illnesses definitely affected me worse genetically. I don't mind being an outcast, or a loser or whatever normalfags would call me, but I wouldn't make me if I could help it. I don't think I should have kids sex or no, because if his mental illnesses were enhanced in me, who knows what my kids would be like. My mom is partially to blame genetically as well, having a grandmother with actual schizophrenia and a history of spending long periods of time, months or years, at mental hospitals. It's just a terrible combination. Theres so much to say but I'm tired at the moment and the genetic problems stand out the most.
>> No. 26024 [Edit]
Having a child could either be like a cutesy SoL manga and give our lives meaning or a very tragic situation. It depends on how they turn out and if they resent you for being a loser or something.

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23512 No. 23512 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
You know what sucks about being a loner? Not having people to go to restaurants with. There is so much good food I would eat if only I had people to eat with. Going to a restaurant alone is weird. I could never do that.

I mean, every now and then I get food with people. But not anywhere near as much as I’d like.

Can you think of anything else you need a group for?
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>>25877
Some don't deserve nice things.
>> No. 25894 [Edit]
Nicotine actually, I feel like that’s something a lot of people here wouldn’t have. I took it up to get myself to stop drinking, and that and some other stuff did the job but then I developed a really bad nicotine addiction. I’ve been weening myself off slowly over the past month or so though and it’s been going pretty well, hopefully I’ll be able to stop for good soon
>> No. 25895 [Edit]
>>25894
you can't do nicotine without other people?
>> No. 25940 [Edit]
Op, I do a lot of things alone because I'm already used to be alone. I go to restaurants alone in a regular basis, I don't see it as weird because I don't care about society or what is perceived as weird because I simply just want eat tasty food and I don't need people to eat food or anything that I just need my body and money to do.

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