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23024 No. 23024 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
Last one is on bump limit.
Post Cute Anime Girls Every Time you Think About Killing Yourself v2
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When life is so burdensome, death has become for man a sought-after refuge.

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23661 No. 23661 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
When hanging out with people, I try to talk, but most people just give rapid-fire responses to one another. Whenever I try to say anything, the conversation has already moved on, or nobody gave me enough time to say something. Sometimes, people even talk over me.

Yeah, I'm so quiet. Maybe if you gave me the opportunity to talk, you'd hear what I have to say!

It especially sucks when you're with 2 other people. At first, they try to include you in the conversation (even though they do the things I mentioned before). But eventually, they just give up on trying to talk to you, so you end up just being an observer to a conversation between two people.

Or sometimes people will put you on the spot and say "why are you so quiet?" What are you even supposed to say to that? What do they even expect you to say? That's like the one time people will stop talking and listen to you. But when you're put on the spot like that, it's hard to find something to say.

Anyone had any similar experiences?
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>> No. 23666 [Edit]
Yeah, it really gets you a ton of shit. In my case I eventually learned to play the clown in attempt to get them off my case about it but they still see me as "off" and "different" so I'm still treated as the odd one out. If you've ever read No Longer Human it's sort of like that.

I don't like it though. It feels very draining and forced. Something about being so fake fucks with me once I'm alone again. Like I have multiple personalities or something.
>> No. 23667 [Edit]
cool, I just got the ebook version of it and I'm gonna use Kindle Word Runner to speed read it
>> No. 23668 [Edit]
Happened to me all the time and that's why I hardly talked to anyone until high school really. That was when I met a guy that was actually willing to have lots of one on one conversations where I would fire off random questions and ideas, even though I still weirded most people out... Of course those days are long gone by now. That was also why I couldn't function at all in dumb workplace socials, I didn't even know whether they wanted my opinion and no one really asked for anything. They moved from topics so quickly either so it seemed meaningless.
>> No. 23669 [Edit]
I wrote >>23667
I finished reading No Longer Human. Thanks again for the suggestion. It was a good book.

I could relate to feeling different from other people (in a bad way), but not so much the clown/entertainer part. The thing about compliments seeming disingenuous also resonated with me.

The author also had better luck with women than me, but in many other ways, it seemed a lot like my own life. I could relate to the un-person feeling, and the drug and alcohol issues. College, suicidal thoughts, and things like that too.

Despite being written such a long time ago, I feel like the social issues he mentioned are more relevant now than in the past. Kinda prescient. I think today, his attitude would be referred to as imposter syndrome, coupled with depression too.

It was a compelling read and I read it start to finish in one sitting.

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23463 No. 23463 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is this the only anime/weeb community left that hasn't been over run by children?
Every time I find a new one to join it's the same thing, retarded teenagers who wont shut up about school or spoiled rich kids and their college crap. It's all "dur hur I'm gonna be a doctor I'm gonna be a laywer" fuck you. I feel so fucking old lately and this shit doesn't help one bit. It's just so ackward being in these servers/channels with kids that are half my age. Not that it's uncommon here either. Where the fuck are all the 30+ weebs? Do they just kill themselves when they hit 30 or do they turn into normal fags and quit the internet? What the fuck man.
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>> No. 23471 [Edit]
Well that's a depressing read. I guessed as much with the FB thing but could never bring myself to join it. If it makes you feel better this community is run by a wizard who's not likely to close it down any time soon.
>> No. 23502 [Edit]
I don't see how the sunk cost fallacy plays in this regard because the issue isn't that they don't have a choice of entertainment. They can just watch something else instead. It isn't like a videogame where you have a tangible invest you can see and feel. Plus, even if you're right, there are thousands of anime series, movies, OVAs, etc. that you can watch, so why indulge in what you don't enjoy just because you feel pressure to do so for the sake of identity?
>They are off to their own bubble and inner networking.
That's a good point, although I don't see why there was any reason to close the forum. Plus, if so many so easily shifted interests, can they really be called otaku?
>> No. 23660 [Edit]
For me the odd thing is how young most people who watch anime are. I didn't even get into anime until I was 17, and even then it took me until I was 18 or so to actually understand enough about my new passion to know what it was, what thins I liked, etc. It's bizarre for me to imagine watching anime at such a young age, to not even be out of middle school while watching it.
>> No. 23663 [Edit]
I don't see how it's odd at all unless you're seeing it as some sort of silly "higher form of art". For example, I started watching anime in the 90s, before it was even named like that internationally, with Mazinger Z and several Tatsunoko series like Time Bokan and Tondera Hausu no Daibōken, amongst dozens of other shows, alongside tokusatsu series like Kidō Keiji Jiban, Choushinsei Flashman and Choujuu Sentai Liveman. Then Power Rangers appeared from and Saiban's corporately dubbed-anime, which everyone just called cartoons. Until the end of the millennium, with Dragon Ball Z (anime came much later than when it aired originally in Japan, obviously) I didn't know what anime was and it was just known as "Chinese cartoons" with the most respectful of us correcting the plebs and saying "Japanese cartoons", but after that and the appearance or knowledge of otaku culture in general, is when most people seemed to get into anime as its own and specific form, with people making anime clubs, searching for VHS tapes, stalking local "black" markets for imported cheap figures, and so on.

Currently, with the sad and pathetic decline of western animation, anime is seen as more of a distinction, for an animation enthusiast, that divides the people with taste and those without. Point being, watching anime doesn't need to be a "passion" nor a hobby. It can just be an entertaining activity someone partakes in, and that's ok too. Also, a ton of anime is made specifically for children, so it shouldn't feel weird children can get into it.

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23635 No. 23635 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I just want to talk a bit about this phrase which I am sure some of you have seen tossed around lately. This I think is the most ignorant, moronic, and backwards thing you could ever tell someone, especially if they're feeling frustrated/hurt about something.
It's the sort of insensitive and uncaring thing people who know nothing about the person or what they are feeling will toss around like nothing and I think it can really hurt people and drive them to commit hurtful actions to themselves or maybe others. If you tell this to someone they might just end up deciding they in turn don't owe the world anything and start lashing out, or take it to heart and hurt themselves because of it. But aside from all that, it's a double standard that goes both ways. If you've ever felt wronged by anyone or anything, then by the logic of this statement and what it represents you forfeit any right to complain about said wrong doing or problems. Imagine you just got mugged and and when you ask for help someone says "The world doesn't owe you anything". Failed that test you studied so hard for? well the world doesn't owe you anything. You just got cheated on? Too bad the world doesn't owe you anything. Imagine grieving over the death of a loved one you wish you could see again just to have someone tell you "The world doesn't owe you anything".
I think this is a cruel thing to say in any context and you're a shitty person if you say it to anyone for any reason.
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>> No. 23637 [Edit]
The world doesn't owe you anything. That's true. But if someone has wronged you, the person owes you, not the world itself. If the person who wronged you in some way says that statement to justify their actions, that individual is a fool.
>> No. 23638 [Edit]
I'm the opposite. I use it on myself and it makes me feel less crap. The world takes and takes and it's about all it does. Pretending that it's a just place just gets my hopes up. At the end of the day, all you got is number one, expecting anything else to come through is just a crapshoot.

It's not really tactful, polite or even really correct to use it to cover your own crap, but the statement itself isn't strictly untrue when used in the right context.
>> No. 23639 [Edit]
"The world doesn't owe you anything" sounds like a phrase a baby boomer (who grew up in the wealthiest generation in human history) would tell a millennial who doesn't make much money, after being forced to go into massive debt for college, then do an unpaid internship, then get hired for minimum wage and no benefits. Boomers pretend that the world is just like it was when they were growing up, even though it is in fact vastly different now.
>> No. 23659 [Edit]
The world doesn't owe you anything, not fairness or justice or happiness, as such is the way of the world. If this is true, then it stands to reason that you in turn do not owe the world fair conduct, equal and just exchange, or happiness. To owe, to be owed, and to have a set of rules for the benefit of one party, is something that must go both ways in a relationship between entities, or not at all. If the world and its laws will not regard me, then I shall not regard the desires and needs of the world or its laws. The world can only demand adherence to it's own wishes if it holds up its own end of the bargain, which is, in fact, the promise of just treatment under its care. If it fails to do so, or even refuses to do so, then the contract is voided, and I shall act accordingly with disregard for the world or its laws. You cannot give nothing yet expect to be given something in return.

I owe the world nothing, not observation of its laws nor fair exchange nor just treatment.

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23605 No. 23605 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I think there was a thread for this way back when, but whatever. Quotes that you like or keep you going in life.

“Only optimists commit suicide, optimists who no longer succeed at being optimists. The others, having no reason to live, why would they have any to die?”
-Emil Cioran
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“Imagine a society that subjects people to conditions that make them terribly unhappy then gives them the drugs to take away their unhappiness. Science fiction? It is already happening to some extent in our own society. Instead of removing the conditions that make people depressed modern society gives them antidepressant drugs. In effect antidepressants are a means of modifying an individual's internal state in such a way as to enable him to tolerate social conditions that he would otherwise find intolerable.” -Ted Kaczynski

“While corporations dominate society and write the laws, each advance in technology is an opening for them to further restrict its users.” -Richard Stallman

"People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don’t.” -Bjarne Stroustrup

“There have been times throughout American history where what is right is not the same as what is legal. Sometimes to do the right thing you have to break the law.” -Edward Snowden

“He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.” -Benjamin Franklin

“Tolerance and apathy are the last virtues of a dying society.” -People argue about the origins of this quote, but I like it regardless of who said it

“You may live to see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.” -Nikola Tesla

“Disobedience is the true foundation of liberty. The obedient must be slaves.” -Henry David Thoreau
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>> No. 23612 [Edit]
Quotes that makes me depressed. I must be an optimist!

Too long to post. The Lemmings quote of Dr. William Pierce.

“The real hopeless victims of mental illness are to be found among those who appear to be most normal. "Many of them are normal because they are so well adjusted to our mode of existence, because their human voice has been silenced so early in their lives, that they do not even struggle or suffer or develop symptoms as the neurotic does." They are normal not in what may be called the absolute sense of the word; they are normal only in relation to a profoundly abnormal society. Their perfect adjustment to that abnormal society is a measure of their mental sickness. These millions of abnormally normal people, living without fuss in a society to which, if they were fully human beings, they ought not to be adjusted.”
― Aldous Huxley, Brave New World Revisited

“For a man to conquer himself is the first and noblest of all victories.”
- Plato

“Nothing is more unreliable than the populace, nothing more obscure than human intentions, nothing more deceptive than the whole electoral system.”
- Marcus Tullius Cicero

“Propaganda is the executive arm of the invisible government.”
- Edward Bernays
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>> No. 23630 [Edit]
"Every man dies. Not every man really lives." -- William Wallace
>> No. 23658 [Edit]
I like reading Ted's manifesto.
"In modern industrial society only minimal effort is necessary to satisfy one’s physical needs. It is enough to go through a training program to acquire some petty technical skill, then come to work on time and exert the very modest effort needed to hold a job. The only requirements are a moderate amount of intelligence and, most of all, simple OBEDIENCE."

Here's one from zhuangzi:
“How do I know that loving life is not a delusion? How
do I know that in hating death I am not like a man who,
having left home in his youth, has forgotten the way back?"

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23218 No. 23218 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Post and discuss medical issues here. It helps to talk about them.

My lower left lung has been hurting, it feels like it's been stabbed. And I just coughed and tasted blood. Didn't see any blood when I went to the mirror and made myself cough again, just tasted it.
I'm scared. I'm poor. The doctors are going to let me die if it's cancer, I can't afford it. I did used to smoke but it was only for a year or two... I've been having trouble breathing but it might just be allergies. I will try to be optimistic.

I also went two years without brushing my teeth and my gums are so full of bacteria it's actually making me sick now. I'm sick constantly because of my own mouth, swallowing bacteria is irritating my throat and giving me a fever, and will be till I pay up $7,000 to unfuck my mouth. No root canals yet, and only two teeth have to be pulled, so that's a positive I guess. I got good teeth genetics from my folks. The dentist said average people would have had lots of teeth fall out by now.

Best advice I can give anyone is take Vitamin D supplements if you aren't in the sunlight at least 30 minutes a day. It helped me a lot.
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Im probably going to be made fun of, because the stereotype of fat people is that they can't keep their mouths shut. Well, im fat, and I've counted the calories I consume on average since crippling deppresion and bankruptcy consumed me, a little over a year ago, though I have had this exact lifestyle for about 4 years. Wake up, mindlessly browse the web, sleep, shitpost, play games, sleep again, eat, play some more and then go to bed. Turns out im getting in anywhere from 800 to 1500 calories, some days less than the minimum, other days more than tha maximum. As a male in my mid 20s and being 1.78m im supposed to get like 2300. Why am I still a fat fuck, with man tits and tired all the time? Granted, sometimes up to half of what I consume is empty carbs, sugar, chocolate milk in particular because it's cheap and I takes no time to prepare. I should note that I smoke all day though, a pack per day at least, I feel that's what gives me energy and not really food. 9 out of 10 days I have a single meal per day because it means less time wasted washing dishes, eating and preparing my meal, it also means I don't have to take a shit as often, because again that takes time and energy and im too lazy. Still, I believe I should increase my calorie input, but im sure I'd get fatter as a result, I've been overweight since I can remember, but I haven't gained weight in over 10 years. I just don't know how to get more energy, time's running out and I need to get my shit together but anything I do I feel so tired afterwards. In fact whenever I have a proper meal I feel tired enough to go to bed right after that, that's why I preffer the quick boost of sugary crap. I've thought about multivitamins but can't afford it, I'd even do cocaine if only I had any sort of acquaintance to set me up with a dealer, but in reality not even my family talks to me save for my father. In case you wonder what my diet generally looks like it's mostly eggs, premade meals, tuna, sardines, chicken breast and red meat, no green stuff or veggies as you can see sadly other than occasional mushrooms and lentils, all accompanied with plain water, no soda ever.

Everytime I talk about this on another imageboard I get the same shit replies, "just keep your mouth shut!" "that 3 liters Coke counts too, f
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I'm amazed you'd think anyone would make fun of you on a site filled with the most pathetic losers the internet has to offer (yes I'm including myself in that statement.).

Far as I can tell it sounds like you just need to burn more calories by being more active. I'm no expert but if a person does nothing but browse the web all day I think they can still get fat even if they're nearly starving themselves. I dunno, people might have told you this already but while the body naturally burns calories at any given moment, it wont burn much if you're being inactive. I'm not saying you need to become a gym rat and pump iron(That 'would' help a lot), you could just try some light exercise. I was in the same boat as yourself barely eating but slowly gaining weight. Just doing some mild cardio came help a lot, ie jogging/bike ridding. Pretty much anything that works up a sweat can help you loose weight. Besides, it's free to go for walks/jogs. Why not try starting small with walking around your block one of these days? Then walk two blocks or more the next time you go at it, and expand the distance each time? If you feel up to it, light jogging could help a lot too. Just a fair warning though that it might hurt your joints depending how large you are. A bike would be better but I'm not sure if you own one.
Anyway, hope you don't take this the wrong way, just trying to be helpful.
>> No. 23644 [Edit]
If you are getting no exercise your body composition is going to be heavily biased towards fat instead of muscle. On top of that judging by your lifestyle you probably have awful posture which makes it look like you have man tits even if you aren't much above 15% body fatDo you have access to a weighing scales? Use it and calculate your bmi if you do. A fat calipers is like 2$ on ebay and would let you see exactly how overweight you are. Feeling tired all the time when you consume so little calories and live such a sedentary lifestyle is normal. If you truly are eating what you claim to be you have a healthy diet apart from not eating vegetables. How much chocolate milk do you consume per day? A liter of it is about 650 calories. Chocolate milk isn't empty carbs by the way, it is high in protein and depending on whether you by skimmed or not high in fat.
I'm not trying to scold you if it comes across that way.
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>male in my mid 20s and being 1.78m im supposed to get like 2300.
For a 25-year-old man weighting 180 pounds, the amount of calories needed to fulfil the basic metabolic rate is 1808 calories. For you to need 2300 a day, you'd need to weight 289 pounds. Even then, you shouldn't eat more than 1800, which is what you'd need to get daily, more or less, to maximize the loss of fat and lose minimal muscle.
>Why am I still a fat fuck, with man tits and tired all the time?
>up to half of what I consume is empty carbs, sugar
You answered yourself. It's true that losing weight mostly boils down to calories, but nutrition in general does not. What you eat does matter, and a lot of foods (specially junk food) are processed differently by the body, by the speed they are consumed and by how much additional food is consumed in quick succession.
>I just don't know how to get more energy
Stop smoking, move more, eat at least 3 meals a day (same amount of calories though), ditch the junk food, and...
>I've thought about multivitamins but can't afford it
You can afford tobacco, which is objectively poison, but not multivitamins, which cost like $1 per tube of 10 effervescent tablets? That's less than $4 a month.
>no green stuff or veggies other than occasional
It shouldn't be occasional. You should consume vegetables daily. I recommend broccoli and cauliflower, they look cute and have mostly all you need from vegetables; add carrot into the mix for sweeter taste.
>What the fuck can I do anons?
Keep an open mind regarding the fact that you got all this nutrition and dieting completely wrong and you need to forget all you think you know and start from the ground up. There are likely literally thousands of online resources that can help you learn about this. All you need to do besides that is stop smoking.

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23521 No. 23521 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Here's a crappy attempt at some self help

Name at least one thing you feel is wrong with your life.

Describe how you can fix that thing.

Then explain why you haven't done that thing yet.

And please don't say something like "Being alive, killing myself, I'm a coward". We're looking for real answers here.
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>> No. 23650 [Edit]
Going to college certainly isn't for everyone, and some majors are pretty useless. But many majors lead to pretty straightforward career paths. It's really not as bad as you make it sound, unless someone studies gender studies or art or something. Besides, not all college is university. There's always trade schools, where you can learn welding, HVAC, or something like that.
>> No. 23651 [Edit]
>But what you do need is determination.
What this means, in the case of college, is the ability to deal with four years of BS, that you not only do not get paid for but have to pay for yourself out the ass.

This is true. I hear all the time about people who go to college, complete their degree, and do the exact same jobs they would be doing had they not gone to college in the first place. The only reason anyone should go to college is if they know for sure that whatever they study will let them go into a job that they know exists (and have the money to pay for it/can get financial aid from govt). Really, that's all it is good for. If all you want is to actually learn things, you can very well teach yourself. Going to school, spending the day in classes, then going back home to do work for those classes while having to be around a bunch of retards all day sounds like garbage to me. The only form of post-secondary education that I've seen that seems somewhat worth it are some trade programs at community colleges.

The other question you have to ask yourself is, even if you did go to college and get a degree that is worth something, would you even want to work at that higher paying job that you'd be able to get? I sure as hell wouldn't want to be a computer programmer or some sort of highly skilled position, that sounds like a pain in the ass. I'd rather deal with less work and get paid less accordingly. Not like many of us have families to pay for or whatever. It's much easier to live on low wages when you've only got yourself to pay for.

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>> No. 23652 [Edit]
>I sure as hell wouldn't want to be a computer programmer or some sort of highly skilled position, that sounds like a pain in the ass
Programming is pretty much the only thing I enjoy anymore.
>> No. 23655 [Edit]
Funny thing about doing what you love for a living, it turns what you love into a tedious chore.

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22622 No. 22622 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What keeps you from committing suicide?
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Family and hope that things can get better. I try to think about even the tiniest things to be happy about. Even now, I can find comfort in knowing this chan is still alive.
>> No. 23632 [Edit]
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I do understand that he could have taken a few steps, such as committing suicide in some other place and have the authorities notify his parents to spare them having to behold the gruesome outcome, but in his defense, just as his parents did not wish to see the scene, maybe he neither wished to be born. Maybe he wanted to die in a place that felt like home. It could even have been some form of revenge against his parents. Morals are a flimsy thing at best, he at least left without taking physical revenge on anyone.
>> No. 23633 [Edit]
Even so, he didn't need to livestream it. He blew his head off for an audience of people who didn't need to see that.
>> No. 23634 [Edit]
Isn't watching a live stream voluntary? What logic is that?

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23617 No. 23617 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Do you think drinking helps with anxiety and depression, or does it make it worse?

I think it serves a few useful purposes for when you have to interact with people.

Firstly, it calms your nerves. This makes it easier to talk and not be self-conscious.

Secondly, if you say or do something awkward/embarrassing, you can just blame it on the alcohol instead of admitting that you made a mistake.

Lastly, it's useful even if you're the only one drinking, rather than drinking with other people socially. Go to the restroom to open up your hidden flask if you're feeling too nervous.
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This area was extremely hot, but the tour moved to a cooler area afterwards.

There were also other things, like horses and a stable, but I didn't take photos of everything.

Sure, people dis Budweiser and think of it as a bad/cheap national brand. But to me, it's a local beer.

It was weird seeing all of the cars in the parking lot with license plates from different states. People really came here as a tourist destination.

Some people think beer is lame, or some activity for "normal" people, but it can really help if you have psychological issues. It's essentially a form of self-medication for many people. It might not be a permanent solution, but it at least helps people cope in the short term.
>> No. 23627 [Edit]
>Some people think beer is lame, or some activity for "normal" people, but it can really help if you have psychological issues
I think there's a lot of depth to alcohol, in terms of production, taste and variety. It's something I've been interested in learning more about from that perspective, although I completely understand why it has that image as well.
>> No. 23628 [Edit]
I can understand other types of alcohol sure, but beer just tastes like ass, what part of it do people like?
>> No. 23629 [Edit]
Tastes good to me. I didn't like it when I was younger, but I guess my taste buds have changed over time.

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This guy is being publicly humiliated for being mentally ill.

The media is all like: let's ignore societal problems. Let's ignore healthcare issues and mental health. Let's ignore economic issues. Let's just pretend that millennials with financial issues are all lazy.

Regardless of this guy's actual circumstances, it seems that the greater purpose of this particular report is to demonize other millennials who are in bad living situations.
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>> No. 23603 [Edit]
honestly I think the biggest takeaway from this story is that people will eat up any non-issue the news hands to them. This does not deserve to be international news, no matter if you sympathise with the guy or not. It feels like they're trying to distract us from something.
>> No. 23604 [Edit]
He probably browses /tc/.

Well, not anymore I guess.
>> No. 23606 [Edit]
Nah, he has a biological son.
>> No. 23607 [Edit]
A manchild with a child of his own, now that's new.

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23506 No. 23506 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Im completely alone all the time and its killing me. No one to talk to not even online. I live with my parents but i have to move soon. I thought i was stronger than this but i was wrong, being alone feels bad. For some reason i didnt have a problem being alone 10 years algo when i was a 18 yr old neet. But now i look back at all the chances i missed to make friends and its really getting to me. Like i have a big hole in my chest.
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>> No. 23577 [Edit]
What happened?
>> No. 23578 [Edit]
>i almost made a firend
Optimism is good but let's not get delusional.
>> No. 23597 [Edit]
How important is friendship? Is there anyone else that just never had any good experiences with it and prefer to be alone?
>> No. 23600 [Edit]
>How important is friendship?
That's really up to you to decide.

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