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Recent News Post: chrome and spam bot errors by Tohno - 23rd May 2018
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22622 No. 22622 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What keeps you from committing suicide?
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>> No. 23382 [Edit]
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too many people know me.
mother needs me for paying half the rent.
Oh and there is the new dancing game about my waifu coming soon.
>> No. 23390 [Edit]
I still have a lot of confidence that things will finally be right in the future.

I also care too much for a few people in my life to commit suicide, it would be really selfish of me to kill myself and make them suffer, and they really look up to me despite me being a useless piece of shit.
>> No. 23391 [Edit]
I wish I could do that. The place I live in is extremely boring.
>> No. 23594 [Edit]
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You'd be surprised at the cool places you'll find just strolling around in your shitty town, trust me. Even if you have to drive out of your hometown, do it. I live in southern california near the border, so there are a lot of places that look like the "wild west", going on old roads and stuff.
I like to put on my weird indie music I find on youtube and just go

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23218 No. 23218 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Post and discuss medical issues here. It helps to talk about them.

My lower left lung has been hurting, it feels like it's been stabbed. And I just coughed and tasted blood. Didn't see any blood when I went to the mirror and made myself cough again, just tasted it.
I'm scared. I'm poor. The doctors are going to let me die if it's cancer, I can't afford it. I did used to smoke but it was only for a year or two... I've been having trouble breathing but it might just be allergies. I will try to be optimistic.

I also went two years without brushing my teeth and my gums are so full of bacteria it's actually making me sick now. I'm sick constantly because of my own mouth, swallowing bacteria is irritating my throat and giving me a fever, and will be till I pay up $7,000 to unfuck my mouth. No root canals yet, and only two teeth have to be pulled, so that's a positive I guess. I got good teeth genetics from my folks. The dentist said average people would have had lots of teeth fall out by now.

Best advice I can give anyone is take Vitamin D supplements if you aren't in the sunlight at least 30 minutes a day. It helped me a lot.
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>> No. 23574 [Edit]
>testicular torsion
This is the second most probable cause. When I go to piss I lower my boxers with my left hand and grab my dick with my right hand, the elastic band on the left side often lifts my left ball in an odd way, but since the pain has never occurred as soon as I make that movement I guessed that wasn't it. Also while the pain can be very intense and incapacitating it rarely lasts more than a couple of minutes, if it was testicular torsion im sure it'd last for hours til my balls die of lack of blood flow. Apparently there's also intermitent torsion so maybe it really is that, im going to be more careful next time and see what happens. Thanks for the input anon.
>> No. 23579 [Edit]
I used to get pains in my left ball too, sound about the same as the earlier guy describing them. My heart tends to hurt alot when I do some high-adrenaline activity like trying to push the boundaries a little on forums I'm deeply connected with, fearing getting banned. Feels like there's no point in hanging around if I don't prank them sometimes though, all of the cool guys are gone, and I'm just some kind of vengeful ghost.

I also have this shitty condition where I tend to get rashes all over my skin, it hurts particularly around my face and chest. This happens whenever I blush, whenever breeze blows against me, when I have a shower (water pressure, it's not normally as bad in this case because that same pressure numbs it), or often for no reason at all. It burns bad enough that I half get the feeling to start scratching all over, but I know it won't help at all, waiting it out is the best I can do. I also have some pretty severe cases of tinnitus sometimes, and my vision is constantly shit up by visual snow and basically every other visual disease known to be associated with it, but those are non-issues.
Anyway, no potentially terminal diseases or anything, so sorry if it doesn't belong in this thread. I'm sure there's people on this board who are literally dying right now.
>> No. 23590 [Edit]
>high-adrenaline activity like trying to push the boundaries a little on forums I'm deeply connected with, fearing getting banned.


Stop right there, you wild maverick! You're a hothead, and I think you need to cool it!
>> No. 23592 [Edit]
>trying to push the boundaries a little on forums I'm deeply connected with, fearing getting banned
>there's no point in hanging around if I don't prank them sometimes
Maybe your pain is deserved then.

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23456 No. 23456 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How can you be a hikikomori without income? I hear that most don't have jobs so it confuses me. Do you guys just live with your folks or what? I try to be a hikikomori but I still have school and my sister is taking up our room most of the time.. So I don't really understand some of it, I guess.
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>> No. 23560 [Edit]
There's 4 main ways to be a hikkikomori.
1. supported by family (including inheritance)
2. receiving benefits
3. work from home
4. savings (see Recovery of an MMO Junky)
>> No. 23561 [Edit]
>see Recovery of an MMO Junky
Despite you didn't actually state it, but since it seems to be a trend here to misappropriate the term... Moriko Morioka is not a hikikomori, but rather a NEET (elito neeto, as she says it). While she has obvious social anxiety due to her seclusion, she doesn't have that much issue with going outside and even enjoys engaging in social interactions in crowded places as shown repeatedly.

That aside, working from home as a hikikomori is very hard because of how few of these types of jobs are. Been looking for such opportunities for years.
>> No. 23562 [Edit]
Good point, very true. I just meant similar in that it's purposefully saving up to drop out of society. This is the route I took.
You are also right about working from home being very hard. I think a good idea is to diversify your income sources as much as possible. I don't personally do it but I hear people can do pretty well from cryptocurrency trading, so that might be worth looking into. You can also resell stuff, there's a guide somewhere about buying things from chinese sites and selling them on ebay for profit, without it ever going to your house. If you have specialist knowledge or skills you could probably turn that into money. Another option is creative stuff, if you build a little fanbase you can set up a patreon or ko-fi and make a little extra there. This could mean music, art, fanart, writing, blogging, reviewing, youtube, streaming etc. If you work hard it's possible even though it takes time and work, I make a little that way. Finally there's things like mturk which are essentially slave wages for a westerner but if you live in the 3rd world that much money can make a difference.
>> No. 23567 [Edit]
>there's things like mturk which are essentially slave wages
Been trying to get into that for years now. Too bad there aren't any decent alternatives.

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22527 No. 22527 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Do you think you might be cursed in some form or another? If so, in what way?
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>> No. 23575 [Edit]
Synchronicity can be a pretty interesting thing. I actually made a list a few years back cataloging them for a few months. I'm not exactly sure what to make of it. Sure, some are coincidences easily enough but some border on the uncanny.
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Whenever my life is JUST about to get better in one way or another, I purposefully fuck it up at the last moment.
>get an offer for a great job - reject it to become a neet
>about to move to my dream city - cancel ticket at the last moment
>flirting with cute girl, she seems interested in me - tell her something really fucking cringy and she walks off

>misuse the quote function >talk about my 3dpd gf hunt >get banned from a forum i dont belong on
>> No. 23585 [Edit]
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beautiful ban
>> No. 23589 [Edit]
i also deal with self sabotage like that. it's never intentional, it's almost as if it's willed by some subconscious desire to punish myself

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23512 No. 23512 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
You know what sucks about being a loner? Not having people to go to restaurants with. There is so much good food I would eat if only I had people to eat with. Going to a restaurant alone is weird. I could never do that.

I mean, every now and then I get food with people. But not anywhere near as much as I’d like.

Can you think of anything else you need a group for?
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>> No. 23582 [Edit]
>It opens opportunities to make friends, a cute waitress showing interest in you
Why would anyone want this. If I'm alone eating I don't want to be interrupted by some normal.
>or meeting some guy you can totally relate to at a bar
Did you take a wrong turn in one of those imageboard listings or something?
>> No. 23583 [Edit]
>Why would anyone want this. If I'm alone eating I don't want to be interrupted by some normal.
Not everyone is a brainless uber-normie, there are some decent around. Though if someone is really bothering you, just give them a hint or let them know that you're unhappy and they'll fuck off.

>Did you take a wrong turn in one of those imageboard listings or something?
>> No. 23584 [Edit]
I didn't realize that it's weird to go to a resturant alone. I suppose now I don't care that it's weird to go to a resturant alone.
>> No. 23588 [Edit]
Going to a fast food restaurant alone isn't abnormal, I see others do the same often. For a dine-in establishment it may be out of the ordinary, but as long as you're not bothered by standing out ever so slightly it should be fine. Heck, if there's a place you really want to go to to eat their food, invite some family member of yours given you are in contact with any.

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23506 No. 23506 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Im completely alone all the time and its killing me. No one to talk to not even online. I live with my parents but i have to move soon. I thought i was stronger than this but i was wrong, being alone feels bad. For some reason i didnt have a problem being alone 10 years algo when i was a 18 yr old neet. But now i look back at all the chances i missed to make friends and its really getting to me. Like i have a big hole in my chest.
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>> No. 23558 [Edit]
Why you gotta be a ford-driver Popo?
>> No. 23576 [Edit]
i almost made a firend but i messed up. i want to die
>> No. 23577 [Edit]
What happened?
>> No. 23578 [Edit]
>i almost made a firend
Optimism is good but let's not get delusional.

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23521 No. 23521 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Here's a crappy attempt at some self help

Name at least one thing you feel is wrong with your life.

Describe how you can fix that thing.

Then explain why you haven't done that thing yet.

And please don't say something like "Being alive, killing myself, I'm a coward". We're looking for real answers here.
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>> No. 23539 [Edit]
A bagger at a grocery store is a good place to start. It’s better than fast food, and some grocery stores are part of unions still, so if you’re lucky, you can get good benefits and stuff.

They’ll also hire anyone that has open availability. Your age doesn’t matter.
>> No. 23540 [Edit]
There's no grocery stores in my town anymore. The last one went out of business 10 years ago. There's literally only fast food chains, a small city hall building, and a gas station.
>> No. 23541 [Edit]
I've tried nothing and I'm out of ideas!
>> No. 23569 [Edit]
I've got a genetic defect, good luck fixing that.

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23393 No. 23393 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Everything always has to be dark and gritty and violent. It's fucking depressing.

This world is such a horrible fucked up unfair miserable place filled with pain and suffering and injustice everywhere. While you're reading this a dozen people are probably being raped and murdered, someone's watching a family member die, someone's dog might have been run over, someone just got sold into slavery, who knows. There's so much lying, cheating, stealing, and corruption everywhere on this little green and blue rock of ours. We're on this earth for such a short period of time, and during that time we struggle to make the best of what we've got. This while uncaring people try to make life worse for us each step of the way. There's nothing we can do about this though. This is just how things are and will always be.
I want to try and not think about it, to take my mind off that stuff and relax without thinking about war and crime and murder for a minute. Seems like the logical thing to do. Yet as horrible as this world is, most people can't seem to get enough of it. From news covering all the most recent gruesome crimes in the area, to tv glorifying more crime and violence. The most popular movies making a spectacle of violence while games let people act it out. Sure sometimes these things might have interesting stories to them, stories of perseverance, good vs evil, or that can pull some emotion out of you. They have their artist merits to an extent in some cases, but that's all people seem to like, Violence, and lots of it. When it comes to anime, the small amount of CGDCT fans out out there for instance is nothing compared to all the massive amount of people who refuse to watch anime that isn't filled with tons of action and fighting like your dragonballs or what have you. If there's no action, people get bored of it or in the case of things that are cute/moe can get angry and hateful even.

Whenever something cute and wholesome gets popular, there's likely a big twist behind it. Be it cute cartoon animals mutilating each other, muppet style youtube vids being philological horror, magical girl anime that turn out to be dark and violent, dating sims that are gruesome horror games in disguise, slice of life anime that turn out to be zombie filled survival horror. Stuff tha
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>> No. 23401 [Edit]
I like grimdark and violent and cgdct, although not an overlap between them like Madoka.

Slow paced stuff in general is unpopular. As long as the nice things are popular enough to remain being produced I don't care.
>> No. 23402 [Edit]
I think if everything was cute and wholesome it would become boring in itself. If there's only one genre that's prevalent it will become tiring. There is a trend of dark gritty things especially after the success of things like the dark night movie. Couple that with the target demographic for a lot of anime being teenagers who like edge and you have a bunch of low quality "dark" series. That said, there's also a lot of low quality moe shows that try to get by just on cuteness without any substance behind it (I say that as a big cgdct and iyashikei fan). The thing is sometimes darker subjects can be comfy in a sense, I would bring up mushishi as an example of this in anime. I think it's really comfy but not every story has a happy ending and there's definitely darker elements. Although madoka I think isn't too bad, there are a lot of shows that rely on the shock value of wholesome subjects juxtaposed with violence. I've managed to convert shounen-fans I knew in real life to liking cute girl shows, there is an appeal there, but also even though I like cute and wholesome things I also like the occasional show with violence and more apparent conflict. Variety will never be a bad thing in my opinion, as long as there's the option to watch what I want then I'm happy. If there's only one genre available then it gets boring no matter what.
>> No. 23557 [Edit]
Men grow tired of sleep, love, singing and dancing sooner than war.
>> No. 23563 [Edit]
They have it good, they may not admit it because victimizing oneself is so widespread today and they want to be able to say but I have it baaaad to justify most of their shortcomings. So they have it good and are unable to realize just how utterly, truly and massively fucked up, cruel, unforgiving and violent the world is for others. In other words you could say (and please excuse my usage of the term, I generally try to avoid it due to its association to certain groups) they are "bluepilled". When SHTF and they know the meaning of violence, conflict and suffering these same people will break down and turn away from violence for the sake of edginess. In a way I guess it satisfies certain inate necessity for struggle and overcoming proxying it through the characters in media.

Alternatively, you could say humans are by nature hard wired to 'fight', fight for food, territory, against other tribes and anything that represents a danger to them. And that's good, because it's what has allowed humanity to get where it is today. That aspect of violence will always remain with us, fortunately good people know when it's necessary to let it out and keep it hidden the rest of the time.

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23447 No. 23447 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
if sleeping is the only thing you enjoy in life, would you be just as happy dead?
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>> No. 23544 [Edit]
There's this thing call dreaming. It's very popular in some circles.
>> No. 23551 [Edit]
Dreaming = living != dead.
>> No. 23555 [Edit]
> Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams (MILD):
> 1. Set an alarm for five hours after you go to bed.
> 2. When the alarm sounds, try to remember a dream from just before you woke up. If you can’t, just recall any dream you had recently.
> 3. Lie in a comfortable position with the lights off and repeat the phrase: ‘Next time I’m dreaming, I will remember I’m dreaming.’ Do this silently in your mind. You need to put real meaning into the words and focus on your intention to remember.
> 4. Every time you repeat the phrase at step 3, imagine yourself back in the dream you recalled at step 2, and visualise yourself remembering that you are dreaming.
> 5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you either fall asleep or are sure that your intention to remember is set. This should be the last thing in your mind before falling asleep. If you find yourself repeatedly coming back to your intention to remember that you’re dreaming, that’s a good sign it’s firm in your mind.

I've never got this to work but there are many forums with people who swear by it.
>> No. 23556 [Edit]
>you can only experience enjoyment from sleeping while awake
Sleeping is enjoyable while asleep as well. If you have a pleasurable or enjoyable dream, that pleasure and/or enjoyment is experienced while dreaming, not while awake. What you experience while awake is a memory.
It's all fun and games until you get stuck in a waking up loop. Unless you have already mastered resetting and controlling circadian rhythm and managing sleep cycles, I'd stay away from trying lucid dreaming.

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22446 No. 22446 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How do you ease the pain, Tohno-chan?
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>> No. 23511 [Edit]
Programming and learning about computer science stuff. It's hard at first, but once you can get past a certain point, and you're able to make cool things, it's really enjoyable. It's not easy though.

It helps with painful emotions because it's very complicated and requires your full attention. Helps distract you from negative thoughts.

Debugging can make you feel worse though. When your code sort of does what it should, but with one or two problems, and you can't quite figure out what's wrong. But when you are able to successfully fix an issue, it feels really good.
>> No. 23516 [Edit]
Yeah, that's a good method. Dedicating yourself to something complicated and essentially endless. For the past 2 years I've been studying Japanese. It's very rewarding if you manage to keep at it.
>> No. 23517 [Edit]

For most "normal" people, they just use alcohol and TV and stuff themselves with "comfort food", and that's why the "normal" American family has degenerated since the 50s or so.
>> No. 23549 [Edit]
I can verify that this method works. I tried it with videogames, playing music and weightlifting.

Is this the NEET equivalent of a workaholic neglecting their personal life and "escaping" from their families and other obligations by jerking around at work?

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23463 No. 23463 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is this the only anime/weeb community left that hasn't been over run by children?
Every time I find a new one to join it's the same thing, retarded teenagers who wont shut up about school or spoiled rich kids and their college crap. It's all "dur hur I'm gonna be a doctor I'm gonna be a laywer" fuck you. I feel so fucking old lately and this shit doesn't help one bit. It's just so ackward being in these servers/channels with kids that are half my age. Not that it's uncommon here either. Where the fuck are all the 30+ weebs? Do they just kill themselves when they hit 30 or do they turn into normal fags and quit the internet? What the fuck man.
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>> No. 23468 [Edit]
>because they feel that's "their thing" like some mindless drone,

I don't think that's mindless. I think people are naturally competitive. And when someone gets into something, they feel like they're personally invested into it. It reflects who they are, or at least that's what some people think.

Sunk cost fallacy:
Basically, "I've put a lot of time/effort/money into it, therefore I can't give it up now." Very common thing.

Additionally, with the advent of social media, where people can show off to each other (or feel bad about seeing how successful other people's lives are), people want to be competitive in their lives, with hobbies or whatever. People don't want to just be some average baseball fan, or some average anime fan. They want to stand out and be special, rather than admit that they're just one insignificant person out of billions of people on a tiny planet in the vastness of space in a pointless universe. People want to feel important and better than average, no matter what it is that they do.

Books on zen and meditation can help with letting you just be more okay with doing nothing, or not thinking, or not comparing yourself to other people. Sometimes it's good to just exist. But it's understandable why people try so hard to be really good at something.
>> No. 23470 [Edit]
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You fell through the cracks, OP. No, they didn't killed themselves for the most part. I'm 31 and for about 5 years during the early 2000s I happened to be a forum admin for a reasonably sizeable anime/weeb community. About 200 or so closely knit group of people. From that 200 sample, here's the info I can give you.

Half of them were done with anime before reaching their 20s. They eventually got into relationships, had kids, etc. Moved on with their lives, many of them even before the forum closed down. Their main source of entertainment shifted to video-games (all the shit ones as you can imagine) or even regular sports. The other half still had a passing interest in anime but not enough to provide a reason for bonding over it. They did their bonds when they were 12, 13, 14, 15 years old. When we closed the forum all those people had added each other on msn, facebook, skype by then. Of course they all were using their real names and real pictures and that was about the time I began to fall through the cracks as well. Then smartphones came around and I know many of them have a common chat on whatsapp and continue to be buddies or at least have a way to contact each other. At this point, people my age are pretty much out of reach, so to speak. They are off to their own bubble and inner networking.

Here's the thing with that. This is also a response to >>23467. Most people in their 30s have no clue what an imageboard even is. Back when we were teens, we just used forums. IBs would probably feel like a shitty forum to many of them. Most people my age are locked behind private profiles on current social media vehicle or whatever smartphone chat application nowadays. If they do meet new people online, it's through dating apps. I know many use those.

Then there's me. And you. Old folk that for whatever reason managed to keep finding strange places to hang out like IBs, and for whatever reason stuck with it. I don't feel younger people invaded us however. I feel it's quite the opposite actual
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>> No. 23471 [Edit]
Well that's a depressing read. I guessed as much with the FB thing but could never bring myself to join it. If it makes you feel better this community is run by a wizard who's not likely to close it down any time soon.
>> No. 23502 [Edit]
I don't see how the sunk cost fallacy plays in this regard because the issue isn't that they don't have a choice of entertainment. They can just watch something else instead. It isn't like a videogame where you have a tangible invest you can see and feel. Plus, even if you're right, there are thousands of anime series, movies, OVAs, etc. that you can watch, so why indulge in what you don't enjoy just because you feel pressure to do so for the sake of identity?
>They are off to their own bubble and inner networking.
That's a good point, although I don't see why there was any reason to close the forum. Plus, if so many so easily shifted interests, can they really be called otaku?

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