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28145 No. 28145 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I have this problem with imageboards, I always get banned because of misbehaviour that lead to it. I was permabanned from 4chan and now I'm banned 2 days on wizchan, I can't help my self but make blunders online...it makes me sad. Once I got banned from the three imageboards ,4chan, wizchan and tohnochan. It made me really depressed like I was unwanted. I don't know what to do with image oards. I wish I could male one myself but I don't know how to code so all I do is shitpost without looking for the consequences and then...I get banned! sad
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>> No. 28462 [Edit]
>>28461
>wanna be podcasts with his friends lol
An amusing April 1st joke would be the announcement of a tc podcast, but it's just an hour of static.
>> No. 28463 [Edit]
>>28462
tohno needs to do another room tour tbh
>> No. 28465 [Edit]
>>28463
There's not much to see with my current one, and my last one was a bit meh.
https://twitter.com/Tohno__/status/1699647587127837088
>> No. 28466 [Edit]
stop posting cp then

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28383 No. 28383 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Forgive me if there's a better thread for this, but I'm drunk and I wanted to vent and I was wondering if anyone could kinda relate, or just have any thoughts on my situation, I guess.

Without divulging too much information about myself (both because I'm paranoid of doing so and because no one gives a shit) I'm a NEET closer to 30 than 20, I get disability for schizophrenia and have done since I was 21. Basically, I never worked, and I've been an "otaku" (in quotes because I consider it to be something of a loaded term) since I was around 15. In school I had no friends and did poorly due to being heavily bullied for my awkward demeanour and poor hygiene (neglectful family that did not teach me how to wash my clothes and didn't care if I washed myself, so I never did it) so I'd go home and shut myself in since the next time I would be forced to go out for school. And to top this all off there was a traumatic event that caused me to recluse myself even further, so the perfect combination of aspects to make someone a hikikomori for life. Around this time I found anime and manga, and began posting online a lot more whenever I was able to. My home had no PC, but my grandparents' home did and I could sometimes use the library computers, and I would force myself through the school day looking forward to these moments where I could immerse myself in the new culture I discovered. I graduated with terrible grades (I had favourite subjects but was bullied so relentlessly that I dreaded attending school and my grades suffered as a result) and stayed with my parents. Eventually I started hallucinating and after some hospitalisations I was ultimately diagnosed with schizophrenia.

While receiving disability payments I've lived in a variety of situations but the crucial thing has always been that as long as my rent is taken from my disability payment on time and I don't make a whole lot of noise, I'm left to my own devices. No one really bothers me as I don't say much of anything, I wash my clothes and play loud music only I'm on my own so I'm not causing a disturbance. So I just... lurk. Very rarely post, but I lurk a lot. I play an MMO that is pretty much always open on my second monitor, and spend 5-6 hours a day on anime and manga viewing. I taught myself enough Jap
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>>28383
Are you actually willing to do anything about this situation of yours? Have you tried anything so far? No offense, but it comes off as "...and thats how it is and im gonna have another drink now".
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>>28441
Hello fellow watcher of Yae's anime.
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>>28442
Hello!
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>>28383
I am a schizo too but I work in a stay-home internet job. Maybe you can try that.

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27963 No. 27963 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
People are hard.

When I'm around them, I want to try and give people what they want, to make them happy and be viewed favorably, but it's so mentally exhausting. It's like they're all draining my energy when they're near. It's a never ending game of trying to say and do the right thing, but it's never enough. You can do everything perfectly day in and day out, but one little slip up and it's all over. It's all for nothing anyway. I've spent most of my life without friends(and certainly nothing more than that). The more I'd give the more they'd take. I find myself hurting myself and sacrificing my own happiness for other people all the time, for people who don't notice or don't care. I try to act the way they want me to, talk the way they want, anything to just give them whatever it is they want and ask of me. Maybe that makes me a doormat. It makes me not want to be around people or interact with them.
The other day someone told me I seem very introverted, like a nice friendly guy who talks when talked to but won't start conversations. That just left me thinking about how demanding people are, and how insane the idea of long term relationships with them is. To play their stupid games with someone everyday for years, I'd go insane
One of the reasons I avoid people and want to be (left)alone is because I know I'm just going to get roped into whatever it is they want/need. Worse yet is if they start getting attached, then they'll want even more from me, bigger and worse things, and I'll just do it.
I also have this fear of being a bother, and do lots of things big and small to avoid being an inconvenience to strangers, even hypothetical ones. Like not doing X because someone 'might' have an issue with it later.

I rather just look like an asshole, maybe even act a bit like an asshole, and hope no one talks to me. This has been what's generally worked for me so far. I actually have to try and hold myself back from trying to bend over backwards for people. Instead, I just kick myself endlessly afterwards for not doing more or doing better. Maybe people will take one look at me and think I'm a douchbag, but I think it's better this way. At least that way they'll avoid me. Nothing good comes from
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>> No. 28432 [Edit]
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>>28163
>the more you are willing to help the more the people you are trying to help will think of you as a weakling.
So many posts like these lately bring me despair. Every other person you are kind to will remember your kindness, it's just that like everywhere negative experiences are harder to forget. That's why it's important to not become drawn into this negativity by spreading it. Being nice makes me feel good, and it's my own responsibility to judge if people deserve it or would use me as a doormat, maybe the weakness you talk about is coming from a lack of confidence others smell and not the helping in itself.
I mean everyone can be an asshole if they really want to, but everyone can also be nice too wich takes more effort. Seeing these being nice is weak posts is only encouraging people to become even greater assholes in my opinion.
>> No. 28433 [Edit]
>Every other person you are kind to will remember your kindness
Realistically, no they won't. Negative memories are stronger, and people are more likely to remember an asshole than a kind person. Maybe if it's some once-in-a-lifetime event then sure they'll remember it, but the day-to-day average kindness is easily forgotten. But on the flipside such once-in-a-lifetime kindness usually require non-trivial effort on your part anyhow, and are a much stronger gamble.

So that's not to say you should be an asshole, but at the same time there's no point going out of your way to be kind. If you will there's some sort of effort/kindness landscape, and the sweet-spot is somewhere in the middle, where the ideal is to be kind so long as it doesn't require too much effort on your part.
>> No. 28436 [Edit]
>>28433
>Realistically, no they won't.
Well we can only guess, I at least do remember a few strangers from even 20 years ago who did something selfless for me, more than stuff I did to others that I perceived as being nice actually.

>Negative memories are stronger, and people are more likely to remember an asshole than a kind person.
That was the point I also tried to make, I sure remember more dicks from my past than nice people. The question is why would someone prefer putting others down instead, if they're aware of the fact that those memories will last longer. Because they don't give a hoot about others and it's easiest for them, and that's the last thing I want to take as life advice.
Either way I think you're more talking about a stoic approach in general, which can seem arrogant but kind of neutral and definitely fine.

>So that's not to say you should be an asshole, but at the same time there's no point going out of your way to be kind
I think the problem is people don't realize that they're being dicks, because that is their go to and nobody bothered to teach an asshole, so maybe the nice thing would be to point out their behaviour. You shouldn't bend backwards for someone, but if you don't care about your surroundings and about how you're perceived at all then you at least shouldn't be rewarded for being unkind and selfish.
>> No. 28438 [Edit]
>>28436
I think what also matters is the mental state a person has. Somebody who has got the short end of the stick for a long time will appreciate it way more if they suddenly get some help, even when it is just a small deed.

> That was the point I also tried to make, I sure remember more dicks from my past than nice people. The question is why would someone prefer putting others down instead, if they're aware of the fact that those memories will last longer.
The same applies here, in my opinion. Every little thing could possibly push somebody over the edge. Besides this who knows when you encounter somebody once more? I had it happen so me and was quite surprised to see what was remembered. I would rather be nice and bland, than mean and memorable.

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28142 No. 28142 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is there anything in particular you have difficulty in life with?
These days, I find that I have no ability to get help. To put it simply, in most cases I'd rather die than admit failure.
I've never really had anyone to rely on or anyone to talk about my issues with, so it's a matter of forcing success or being fucked for me.
How do you deal with it? My natural instinct is to try and do things faster and harder, but it's starting to leave injuries I can't ignore.
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>>28365
>There's probably other less obvious ways in which you're really smart and capable
I appreciate this. I think I understand that you are objectively correct, it just gets difficult to acknowledge that in the moment. Especially given the fact I already overthink just about every interaction that I have, both positive and negative.
>> No. 28382 [Edit]
>>28364
Reading this reminded me of my problem. I'm not saying this might be your case, just that I can relate to your experience.
I have auditory processing disorder comorbid with some sensitivity to sound. In spite of my good hearing (ie.: listening to subtle noises when it's quiet, that other people don't pick up) I have trouble interpreting the information received. In addition, loud noises can cause pain and discomfort. My APD is enunciated in noisy environments, where I swear I can't understand a word of what people are saying unless they are right next to me and speaking very clearly. It also affects my academic and professional life, albeit subtly. Things make perfect sense to me and I'm able to quickly grasp new information when reading it. When listening however, it feels like I'm "slow".
A striking example is with math. I used to lose my self halfway when teachers talked through exercises without writing them down, but otherwise could figure out the processes and intuition at a normal pace when shown a written example or hint.
My sensitivity to loud noises isn't particularly impairing, but I do find my self complaining about noise when other people don't (ie.: waves at the beach/coast) and would explain my distaste for certain types of places and events. I guess this would subsequently explain why I've always been withdrawn and grew to enjoy solitude as an adult.
>> No. 28396 [Edit]
Avoidance. Whether it be interacting with others, or tackling a difficult problem, my natural instinct is to hide or make myself small because of an irrational and obsessive general fear. Worse yet, I have practiced this behavior for well over 20 years - since I was a little kid. This has led to a life of reclusion and isolation. I cannot help but run away.
>> No. 28399 [Edit]
Trusting people.
I want to believe in people, and to assume they mean well, and maybe they do to eachother but not to me. Maybe I'm seeing what I want to see, but it feels like people fuck me over and treat me like garbage all the time with little to no consideration for my thoughts and feelings. If and when I'm shown even the slightest amount of kindness, I assume there's hidden motive, like a used car salesmen buttering up an idiot.
Really it's probably a self fulfilling prophecy. I assume people will either hate me or make life hard for me, so I act in a way that repels them and makes me unapproachable, but that in itself could easily be the cause of why people treat me the way they do.

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28355 No. 28355 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
It's so weird to think there are people who have circles of friends who they have known for long periods of time, or even gone through life's milestones together. Or even on a less longstanding level, people who are good relationships and who meet up somewhat regularly to do things like eat, drink, and associate with each other.

/so/ might be the wrong place for this, because I don't really feel loneliness that strongly; that part of me froze over a long time ago. My sentiments are more sadness and hate
>> No. 28356 [Edit]
>My sentiments are more sadness and hate
That sounds like loneliness with a different cover of paint.
>> No. 28357 [Edit]
>>28356
I imagine if I felt lonely I would feel a longing for the company of others (I don't). But what I feel is more along the lines of sadness over community or a lack thereof in a more abstract sense

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27380 No. 27380 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
what keeps you alive?

im starting to run out of reasons so i thought you might have some good ones to share
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>> No. 28305 [Edit]
I'm just waiting my parents die so I can kill myself without any worry.
>> No. 28350 [Edit]
I live for creating. Writing, Drawing, Animating, Coding, I can't do all those things if I am dead. I also promised my waifu that I wouldn't want myself dead or kill myself, so I owe it to her too to keep on living.

My only problem is what happens when I've created everything I want to make. That scares me.
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>>28350
If you have a lot of ambitious ideas, I can almost guarantee you that wont happen.
>> No. 28353 [Edit]
>>28351
Which I do. I can easily see myself gong on what I have now until at least 2030. I just know that the life I am living isn't always going to be like this, and that there is no winning solution on what to do after. The bleak uncertainty of the future is terrifying, the present depressing, and I wish I could live permanently in the past and just always go back again after reaching modern day.

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28227 No. 28227 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I feel empty inside. Like this world has taken everything I have to offer and left me with nothing. I can't enjoy anything or get fun out of anything. Everything seems pointless now, including going on with this life. My best years are behind me and they weren't any good. No one wants me, no one likes me as anything more than a casual acquaintance at best. I have very little to show for my life so far, and very little reason to care about anything anymore. Even if I did have this or that I'm not sure what difference it would make.

The world feels so small, like a tiny rock covered in assholes in the middle of vast nothingness.
What am I supposed to do? Sleep eat shit fuck repeat till I die? I just want to be left alone.
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>>28244
>most things you do are trying to ward off discontent, or distracting yourself so you don't notice inherent bleakness
I've had similar thoughts many times, but part of me wonders whether I, and most other people here, are biased because our lives are especially uneventful. Maybe there's people out there who actually have interesting lives, and or feel profound joy on a regular basis.
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>>28244
>For the latter I'm reminded of a metaphor of a person who keeps sharpening a knife to keep himself occupied
That's me, I like knives
I wish Life would end soon
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>>28244
Well put. I should probably stop trying to force myself to have fun, at least in ways that should be but aren't (for me).
>> No. 28249 [Edit]
>>28247
She needs a Momo to enjoy it with~

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27004 No. 27004 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
do your parents force you to do anything?
i'm 26 and still live with my parents, while i know they don't hate me, they do put alot of pressure on me to do normal things; get a 3DPD and focus on collage etc. i understand what they mean but they're so oppressive i almost makes it worse. and i can't do anything against them whatever they say goes. but at the sametime they do love me, it's this weird back and forth and i just feel alot from it.
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>> No. 28139 [Edit]
my parents treat me like i'm disabled and shut me out if i don't do as they like. if i talk to the both of them they gang up on me, if i try to talk to them individually they stonewall me and then confer behind my back. everything i say is ammunition to them. they're impossible to deal with so i do the minimum to please them until they kick the bucket and i can collect my inheritance. there's nothing else i can do. if not even my own parents are on my side who have i got left?
>> No. 28140 [Edit]
>>28139
What's preventing you from leaving?
>> No. 28150 [Edit]
>>28140
they already kicked me out years ago.
>> No. 28151 [Edit]
It's normal, my mother used to pressure me to have a 3D.
Now, that i'm nearly 30. She stopped doing so, maybe she finally understood i am shpeshal.

The mom unit likes me doe, so i do reciprocate the feeling.

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26312 No. 26312 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Last one (>>23024) hit the bump limit.
It was nice having a thread to casually express those somber thoughts.
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I want to communicate but I can't properly express myself. There are things I want to do, but I was born into some kind of hell and don't seem able to escape it. I lost my entire life so far, and it seems too late to turn it around. I think about it (suicide) because I think I'll never realize any of the things I dream of. I've had suicidal thoughts almost daily since I was ~8. I don't know how to explain how I feel, I'm too weird even for a place like this. I just want to follow a certain path and be closer to an ideal, there are ideals I want very much to realize, things I want to try doing/making/creating, but this life is difficult. I can't translate what I mean into words, I wish I could show the real thing. I've always felt something/believed in something, and always wanted to try directing it towards something nice, but I feel like I never had a chance. I want very much to but I think I won't make it. There are many things I wish I could say but I don't want to be a bother so I'll try to stop.
>> No. 28598 [Edit]
>>28597
Nice art.
>> No. 28599 [Edit]
I think this has hit the bump limit as well. Anyone up for creating a new thread?
>> No. 28600 [Edit]
>>28599
I will.

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27991 No. 27991 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I don't quite know how to explain it, but at this point, I don't hate being sad. I'm afraid to get better because I don't remember what it's like to be well. I'm so used to this feeling of emptiness that it started to not feel so bad. Like, sometimes I stop and think it's not that bad, but I guess I just got used to it.

I don't know if it's normal or if I'm going crazy, after all, what kind of person likes to be sad?
>> No. 27992 [Edit]
you can get addicted to a certain kind of sadness
>> No. 27993 [Edit]
Change is scary, and people can get used to just about anything. Even if what they're used to is pain and suffering. The change could be for the better, but it's an unknown. The unknown is unpredictable. I think we fear the unknown because as bad as things might be, we know things can always be just a little worse. At least with what we know, we know what to expect, we can brace ourselves physically and emotionally for it, but how do we do that when we don't know what's coming?
So yeah, I'd say it's normal. It's the kind of thing that keeps people in abusive relationships and jobs they hate. I think understanding this would be the first step towards making things better. You don't have to live that way, you're allowed to have a better life. Don't tell yourself otherwise.
>> No. 28066 [Edit]
What kind of sad? Just emptiness or an actual feeling of sadness?
What positives do you see in your sadness exactly?
I find myself remembering periods where I experienced the latter with fondness. Probably for the comfort I felt when managing to escape into some fantasy or daydream. It also has a certain romanticism to it, i guess.
>> No. 28077 [Edit]
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no, you're far from being crazy.
the brain gets accustomated to recurring events, just like the Stockholm syndrome where the abducted becomes fond of its prison.

from my own experience, you should not keep on running on sadness, it's a limited fuel and once it runs out, anhedonia will be awaiting.
you need some positivity, after all that's what I believe we're all in search of and the main reason we are interacting.

i hope you can find some solace in this reply.

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25280 No. 25280 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
did you grow up poor
did you have an abusive childhood which led to you being fucked up
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>> No. 25658 [Edit]
>>25494
Yeah that could be it, or it could be getting beaten by my mom and slammed repeatedly head first into concrete as she screamed about wanting to kill me.
>> No. 25662 [Edit]
>>25481
that's definitely abuse
>> No. 25741 [Edit]
I grew up poor, yeah. But then again everyone around me was poor so I didn't really feel it that strongly at the time. By any metric I'm still poorer than the average person, but seeing the attitudes and behavior of the richer people in my country makes me disgusted, so I'm somewhat glad I didn't become like them. Wealth changes you as a person and very few can resist not becoming arseholes as a result.
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>>25652
Fucking hell you're almost a carbon-copy of me, except I only had one sibling that was also abusive.
I think we older brothers get treated like that because we were maybe an unwanted birth. For anything I should be grateful of my parents, is of not making me not care about life and others in general.
It is liberating, but sad, in a way...

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