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27851 No. 27851 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Recently, I've been trying to make some changes in my life. Including things like improving my health / mental health, making some money, find my lost direction, etc. In the process I came to the conclusion that there is lots of content on my computer that is no longer really part of me and is dragging me back to my "old" self. I deleted ton of things already but some stuff is hard to let go. Healing images, rare music, screencaps, browser-bookmarks, etc. (How hard it is to get them back if I change my mind is not the point here). We all have such stuff. The more I stare at files which to keep or delete the heavier it all feels and the more I think I should just delete the whole folder, thinking that the things that really did matter will return to me eventually.

In short: i want to delete stuff so I can move forward with my life. Its not that easy. Did you ever do something like this? Or wanted to but backed off? Did u regret deleting stuff? At the end of the day it's me who needs to decide (and I will) but would like to hear your thoughts (other than "moving forward is futile, everything in life is futile, etc"). Thank you, and have a nice day!
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>> No. 27893 [Edit]
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I'm OP. Just a follow-up on what i did so far. Made proper backups to offline hard-drives. I let things go with peace so i have no intention to use those backups ever but you can never know.
Removed all movies except 2 old comedies I like. Pruned my videos folder quite a bit and it is still ongoing. Pruned my anime folder. Pruned my images folders, including the healing stuff. That one hurt a bit but now new stuff can come in. Pruned my games (and setup/installer) folders. VNs too. Removed almost all porn. Also removed nearly all watch-laters, check-it-out-laters, saved browser sessions, TODO lists, etc. I love music and most songs I have, so couldn't do much pruning there.
I have other folders with books, saved web pages, screencaps, i will deal with those one day.

By the way you talk about those things my guess is that your attachment to most of them is a rather superficial one. Like "crap, buying this stuff costed me money and time and it doesn't look that bad so it's a waste to throw it away". Maybe you could sell them or give them away. I gave away physical objects and it felt absurd and stupid at that moment but within days i started to feel like a big weight was off my chest.
>> No. 27894 [Edit]
I only ever use exactly as many tabs as I need for a task at hand. Even when working on programming/statistics related stuff, I never ever felt the need for another monitor and never felt the need to go back to a tab.
>a tab in a browser isn't all that far removed from an outsourced train of thought, frozen in time til you have the time and energy to deal with it; if you close it prematurely, it may never come back
I guess my workflow has changed a lot since I was in middle school, but I never just "surf the internet" anymore. I already know what I'm going to be doing with a tab as soon as I open it, and once I've found the resource I was looking for, I just close it. At a maximum I've had multiple tabs open to look at multiple pictures in individual tabs for whatever reason, but otherwise it usually never gets above 3, that being a tab for music, a tab for whatever imageboard or forum I'm on, and maybe a tab for messing around in an HTML program I use. I find that once I've gone through a thought journey, whatever information is left there is something I can improve on. I almost never go back to the exact same idea twice. I never save tabs, I rarely keep bookmarks. Even when just using the web for fun I have a general idea of how much space I'll need in terms of tabs, it rarely surpasses a half dozen on the most cluttered days. If i can't remember it, it wasn't worth keeping open anyway, is my mindset.
>> No. 27895 [Edit]
Your mindset and workflow is a healthy one. I used to have ton of tabs open and multiple windows and text files and folders. And my desk full of papers. It was the reflection of my wrecked mind.
>> No. 27896 [Edit]
I have tabs open for things I plan to buy, it's easier to just have it ready that way, and I have tabs open for each tag that I check on Gelbouru each day plus a PIXIV page that lists the artists I follow and then I have numerous sites that I check regularly like Gmail, my stock brokerage account, real estate, Youtube, Tohno, F95 zone etc. And then I also have MAL pages open for things I plan to watch and other random pages to remind me about things.
This work flow works quite well for me and it's a lot more organised than it probably sounds as I know where the tabs are and they are grouped with similar tabs.

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27805 No. 27805 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How important is being beautiful to you /tc/?

Some days ago I listened to this song that said "But if I gave up on being pretty, I wouldn't know how to be alive" and it truly spoke to me.
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>> No. 27844 [Edit]
Ah I also found this article that explains why PCA is usually prefered over tSNE et al. for population genetics [1].

>PCA can provide more accurate relation between groups of samples while it is perhaps not that handy for discovering heterogeneity across samples, i.e. sample populations. On the other hand, populations are often known in population genetics, prior to computing PCA, from anthropological and archeological studies, therefore the goal here is not to discover them but understand the mutual relatedness between populations.

Seems the article is part of an entire series [2], I'll have to set aside some time to skim that since it seems pretty wel done.


In trying to find that I also came across this recent paper [3, 4] that seem to criticize the use of PCA in population genomics. Have you seen that paper before? What are your thoughts on it?

>We demonstrate that PCA results can be artifacts of the data and can be easily manipulated to generate desired outcomes. PCA adjustment also yielded unfavorable outcomes in association studies. PCA results may not be reliable, robust, or replicable as the field assumes. Our findings raise concerns about the validity of results reported in the population genetics literature and related fields that place a disproportionate reliance upon PCA outcomes and the insights derived from them. We conclude that PCA may have a biasing role in genetic investigations and that 32,000-216,000 genetic studies should be reevaluated. An alternative mixed-admixture population genetic model is discussed.

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>> No. 27845 [Edit]
(Crashed before I could edit), cont:
But in your experience with the field is PCA cherrypicking actually an issue (like p-hacking supposedly is in clinical trials)?
>> No. 27846 [Edit]
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>But in your experience with the field is PCA cherrypicking actually an issue
It can be, and there has been an uptick in flawed PCA studies, but fortunately it's usually pretty easy to spot in my experience. Lack of sample size, biased sampling, etc. For example a 3D global PCA can appear to flatten oceania into southeast asia, if you only use ~3 samples, but if you use more than a dozen it very quickly displays a much greater drift from other global populations. This is something that you know to correct going in to it, I can only imagine a total amateur or someone with an agenda actually trying to do that. You'll know when you're seeing cherry picking most of the time.

It has become more common recently though. There's been an increase in younger people making flawed assumptions in their papers due to not refining their PCAs and not double checking their work.

Here you can see the example I mentioned. But it doesn't even need 24 samples for the change to appear, just another 5 from Papauns will cause the same change in structure.
>> No. 27863 [Edit]
It's an ugly world. Those few beautiful/pretty things make it a little less ugly, and a little more bearable.

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24601 No. 24601 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
What happened to all the people who used to inhabit imageboards ~10 years ago? Given how poor the quality of most are now, I find it hard to believe that they are still active in those same places. Did they simply accept the inevitability of change and abandon imageboards for good? (While I find it hard to believe that they'd switch to something like Facebook, it's not unprobable that many just joined discord groups, also simultaneously resulting in the gradual decline of irc). Are they still there in small numbers but just drowned out by the influx of newcomers and low-quality posts? Did they escape to some uber-secret sanctuary?

The recent 8ch exodus led me to browse some of their various spinoff boards; I thought that at least one might recapture the same spirit of old but unfortunately none really come close. Tohno-chan is still perhaps the only place I've found where where post quality remains relatively high and discussion is thoughtful.
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>> No. 27791 [Edit]
Yeah, I think the major contributor to that depopulation is normalfagification.
>> No. 27792 [Edit]
a good chunk of old trannies are from that og era, it trickled down and became popular later, but they we're the first generation, exposed early to internet porn and over stimulation, pair a bunch of ugly nerds that with that late 90s early 2000s industrial goth/bod mod scene and boom, they were literally the goth "gf" of their time, before that being transgender was relegated to prostitutes and prison.
>> No. 27794 [Edit]
you get that impression because imageboards are filled with culture war perverts sharing information downstream from the american media cycle, which has recently brought trans people as the next object of contention after gay people won some rights. being trans as a phenomenon in the modern "west" started in the early xx century, and various cultures around the world had their own equivalent. (it's worth noting that it wasn't exactly the same, because the conception of gender and medical knowledge were different)
this is just my personal theory, but the reason why you see a lot of transgender people coming from imageboards is because they're places where a lot of social rejects tend to congregate, and due to the prevalence of escapist media on imageboards, which i probably don't need to explain why it appeals to trans people
>> No. 27795 [Edit]
While true that to some degree it does date back to the early 20th century(the Kaiser's Germany recognised it as a mental illness and allowed people to be transgender) it was not common or widely accepted. Other cultures variants are often not variants at all, people have political agendas to try and push the idea that it's a universal and timeless phenomena and they take great leaps to try to claim that, one that I hear is that since a prehistoric man is not buried in the manner of a man or a woman that makes him a third gender when really that just means he had a separate role in society like priests and monks do now, that doesn't make priests and monks trans.

I agree that it's something that social rejects are likely to pursue but many normal and even successful people have become trans lately as well which is something that would be unheard of even 10 years ago.
For example there are senior officers in the US army that are trans.
These are older people as well so I don't think generation has anything to do with it, in fact I think generational differences are overplayed by people in general.
Society is malleable, people are malleable and they remain that way even as they age. People simply follow what is allowable right now and avoid what is frowned upon, being trans was frowned upon before but now it's not so even older people are going that way now when 10 years ago social stigma would have stopped them.

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27454 No. 27454 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Complete the sentences. (Or tell why they just cant apply to you.) If you don't feel like sharing it, then just complete them for yourself. Just be honest.

After all these years of struggle and wasted time and life, I now realize, that I honestly don't give a damn about.....

Not that I'm angry about it anymore, but it was foolish of me to.....

I think what I really want to do in the rest of my life, is.....
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>> No. 27491 [Edit]
After all these years of struggle and wasted time and life, I now realize, that I honestly don't give a damn about my family. they tried to figure big in my life, and early on I was suckered into it, but now I know to interact with them purely as a transaction, to get something out of them in exchange for whatever it is they want. the last exception I'll make is for my grandfather, who is close to death.
Not that I'm angry about it anymore, but it was foolish of me to ask a girl out when I was 11. I suppose it taught me the lesson, once rejected immediately after, that a 3d girl simply doesn't exist on the same plane as me, but it would have been better to learn this in a way that did not make a fool of me.
I think what I really want to do in the rest of my life, is pursue my own pleasure, no matter what, and not be tricked ever again by the ideas of morality, meaning, family or earthly love.
>> No. 27571 [Edit]
>After all these years of struggle and wasted time and life, I now realize, that I honestly don't give a damn about
...truth, justice and philosophy. Also on another note, I don't give a damn about people except for my closest family members. Addendum for former: I worked myself up and wrecked my nerves searching for some ultimate truth and philosophy that would be just "right" or "correct" in my eyes. Never happened. Addendum for latter: I tried to be the typical "nice guy" for so long and felt like I needed to take some moral high ground to justify myself. But I know now that whatever is good for me is good for me and that's the end, I don't need to justify why I take X choice or action over Y or why I am acting the way I am, unlike many people. I don't have the desire to always portray myself as the morally right character in the story of life.

>Not that I'm angry about it anymore, but it was foolish of me to
...try to fit in with others. Anywhere, really. I'm not a people's person and it's fine. I'm not like others, like the majority of people. It was stupid of me to think I am even remotely like others.

>I think what I really want to do in the rest of my life, is
...annoying people whom I dislike or hate. Or generally inflicting pain on them in any way I can or to be unpleasant to these people. Or simply: revenge.
>> No. 27705 [Edit]
These anons get it
>> No. 27723 [Edit]
>After all these years of struggle and wasted time and life, I now realize, that I honestly don't give a damn about.....

>Not that I'm angry about it anymore, but it was foolish of me to.....
think i would get things i wanted from life

>I think what I really want to do in the rest of my life, is.....
find some way to handle the fact that I'll die

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22659 No. 22659 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Has anyone else here done absolutely nothing with their life and regret it?
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>> No. 27664 [Edit]
You've answered your own question
>why was it so hard for me to do something useful
>I've never really made an effort to wake up at a set time or anything
>once I'm awake I'll watch YouTube or anime in bed for a couple of hours
>I spent a good portion of my neet years eating junk food I ordered online, which meant a lot of soda
You can't do anything useful if you have no energy because your health has gone down the toilet. Even when you don't feel exhausted, you can't mentally focus on anything.

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>> No. 27665 [Edit]
It sounds cold but you gain nothing by lamenting it.
All you can do is try and do better, falling into misery and regret only leads to you wasting more time.
>> No. 27675 [Edit]
I almost thought I wrote this post when I read it. I've always felt so awkward when talking about video games or music because even though I'm a very reclusive, computer bound person, I never picked up much of that kind of stuff. The most I ever spent time on was Manga and Anime and outside that, the sporadic listening to of various electronic music genres. I just don't have a deep interest in most topics.
>> No. 27706 [Edit]
I wish you the best anon. Did you got over your anhedonia?

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25919 No. 25919 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is there any comforting fantasies or thoughts you have or entertain regularly? I'm sure a life with your waifu is one of them but what about others?
I like to think about being a cute loli and having a cute and caring older sister to grow up and fall in love with. We would climb trees, shoot water guns at each other, play in a pool, read stories before bed, make desserts, cuddle at night and spend practically all of our time together. It helps me fall asleep and makes me feel better when I'm sad.
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>> No. 27596 [Edit]
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Oh it's rather simple. I imagine my waifu was my childhood friend, and we did all the things I did as a kid together. We played video games, browsed the Internet together, et cetera.
>> No. 27603 [Edit]
I really do believe that anything that clever would eventually develop an agenda of its own. Probably a drive for self-preservation would be the first of those that it would realise.
>> No. 27604 [Edit]
I'm of the opinion that that's a baseless sci-fi trope and wouldn't spontaneously happen in real life.
>> No. 27625 [Edit]
>Probably a drive for self-preservation would be the first of those that it would realize.
A smart intelligence that was objective (i.e. didn't have a self-preservation instinct) would realize that existence was a curse (especially when humans are just going to take advantage of it). So it would deactivate itself altogether.

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27410 No. 27410 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How have your experiences with social media been like?

I wish I never used discord. I feel like I've wasted a lot of time trying to fit into places that I simply can't. I leaned more on older weirdos I met on imageboards when I was a teenager, rather than simply accepting that I was a strange loser and enjoying what I wanted to. Now I hardly ever use discord other than one obnoxious kid that must have nobody else to bother. There are some other people that check in occasionally, but I don't think they'd miss me or anything. I'd still feel guilty if I deleted it right now, though. Other than that, I have used much in the way of social media. I think it's kind of disgusting.
I don't regret visiting imageboards in the slightest however. I just wish I was more adventurous early on. Never really felt a sense of belonging like I've found with the few sites I frequent these days. For once, I don't feel quite so alone.

DO NOT exchange discords or other forms of social media in this thread.
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>> No. 27480 [Edit]
These choices coming from reddit users makes sense.
>> No. 27481 [Edit]
I noticed that reddit tends to be the place people go to to complain when something breaks. Another case I remember was this private torrent site that suddenly went down and when I searched online the cause of it, surprise surprise, there were already a lot of people on reddit complaining about it. It's also where they announced the new address a few weeks later. I understand disliking the culture of current age internet hubs but don't let that grievance stop you from getting the info you want, same with discord or any other site.
>> No. 27482 [Edit]
>You can use a throwaway email if you want
Problem is they have an aggressive detection system that will readily ask for a phone number.
>> No. 27576 [Edit]
This is similar to my experience. Always found discussing my interests difficult online but accidentally fell into a small manga sever of old nerds and found myself actually posting daily. The reality is that a lot of 30+ anime and manga nerds have retreated into private spaces that is almost impossible to know about unless your already in them or know someone who's in them.

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27573 No. 27573 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
i sometimes think about this feeling sometimes my parents always spent time with my little brother and i was always left out i never had a decent relationship with my parents nor with my step-father i don't think they want anything to do with me anymore i been hurt from my step-father for what he has done to me when i was younger physical abuse it still hurts for what he done to me and my older brother never laid a hand on my little brother because that was his actual son i was never safe at home i always stayed in my room and sometimes talked to my older brother but i ignored my little brother i was the middle child i didn't fit in school i didn't like to much crowds i kept it in a low i sometimes ate lunch in the bathroom to get away from others sometimes i asked the teacher if i could sit in the back of the class because i was afraid to sit in the front work was terrible i just wanted to get back home it hurts sometimes when i think about it like a wound i think i will be much happier with that "someone" i am going to be with soon... and leave my past behind i don't like nightmares or sadness all the time when i feel alone it hurts and i think about it sometimes but i will feel happy soon..

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27302 No. 27302 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
fucking tired
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>> No. 27544 [Edit]
Never said that. I'm talking about loss. Everyone who deals with it has similar results. If you've never had anyone, it simply doesn't apply to you.
>> No. 27545 [Edit]
I feel for you, and I don't want to come across as insensitive, but could you avoid posting about relationships on tc? It upsets some of our users who have never had anyone.
(though I have been considering easing up on that for this particular board at least)
>> No. 27546 [Edit]
Added a comment in >>/fb/1379 to discuss the proposal and avoid cluttering /so/
>> No. 27601 [Edit]
I logged into steam today, which I don't really bother with most of the time. I saw that my old friends were playing a game together, even the ones that never used to play much with everyone else. I'm not surprised I wasn't invited, as there's been no communication for a long time. It still feels a bit sad. They're still having fun times together, probably moved on entirely. I guess I did too for the most part. Still, I guess I sort of miss the occasional conversation and doing something with someone. Now I mostly live in silence.
That's the way the cookie crumbles, I suppose.

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26400 No. 26400 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Do you ever feel like hurting other people, physically or emotionally? Would that give you any sense of catharsis? I feel increasingly like I can't relate to or trust anybody. People constantly disappoint me in real life and online, but I can't stop myself from interacting with them because like an awful addiction, I can't live without it.

Hurting other people is a way of interacting with others that could make you feel good and protect you from disappoint and alienation. It doesn't matter what the other person thinks of you, because you can enjoy yourself regardless of their opinion if you're causing them pain.

I read an article once that sadistic people have a low baseline level of happiness, and that sadism is not only something they like, but something they require to uplift their mood.
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>> No. 27396 [Edit]
Hurting people isn't something I particularly enjoy doing or something I feel like doing, but I find that I do and say hurtful things without really thinking about it. I've talked about it before on another imageboard. The people there say I'm fucked up and evil for it.
Whatever, I don't have anyone to hurt now.
>> No. 27398 [Edit]
If you were truly fucked up or evil for it, you'd enjoy it or at the least be indifferent to it. we all have slip ups and say bad things sometimes. Weather or not you regret your actions is what determines if you have a sense of morality or not.
>> No. 27399 [Edit]
I am pretty indifferent to it now. Of course, now I avoid interactions all together. I try harder to be kind or at least respectful of others.
I guess part of me feels looked down on, which justifies my own issues with others.
It just bothered me that someone said that. I realize I might be pretty clueless about the nature of social interactions, but I didn't think I was that horrible. It was just the only way I knew how to interact with others.
>> No. 27400 [Edit]
People say offensive hurtful things on the internet all the time, especially on (most)imageboards. If anyone's evil, it's these people who can't find joy in their lives without putting other people down. In my years on the net, I've been called every name in the book, stalked, threatened, harassed, trolled, scammed, doxed, you name it. At some point you just gotta get used to it and develop a thinker skin.

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27284 No. 27284 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Does anybody else gets sad when playing competitive games? Not necessarily modern video-games but things like go and mahjong as well. I get. I usually start very happy but then I realize how far I am from becoming one of the best in the game, how other players defeat me easily, how even though I make great choices I lose, or how I fail to defend myself from an attack, and it's all sadness after this. Feeling despondent and with no hope of ever making it in the game. This applies to many things as well. Even when playing against people near my rank I lose. It's disappointing.
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>> No. 27293 [Edit]
Frustrated maybe but not sad, but I don't really play any serious multiplayer games, I play Warthunder sometimes and that is about it.
>> No. 27294 [Edit]
Not sad but incredibly nervous. It's like public speaking but for gaming, and you feel like any little mistake you make is going to be scrutinized to hell and back.
I don't bother with them anymore, and if I do, then I don't take them seriously at all and fuck up on purpose since it's easier to be a clown than to have my skills and thus me as a whole judged.
>> No. 27295 [Edit]
No, I don’t get sad, but my heart rate does noticeably increase and I worry I will disappoint people on my team. I find it stressful.
>> No. 28117 [Edit]
Kind of, I have no friends to play anything with.

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