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23140 No. 23140 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
The Prominent Australian Death Support Philip Nitschke has unveiled his new development - the Sarco suicide capsule from the 3D printer. The machine has a single and simple aim of helping rationally capable people to get out of the world. The capsule was said to have been developed by Nitschke in Holland. The suicide machine consists of two parts: a reusable machine bed and a detachable capsule that can be used as a coffin. The design for the suicide device should appear free on the Internet and can be anywhere in the world 3D printed and built. To get into the capsule, the lethargic person should complete a questionnaire to assess their mental status and get a four-digit code. Entering the code should open the door of the capsule and engage the user. Inside, liquid nitrogen is used to lower the oxygen content. It should all be over in a few minutes.
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>> No. 29527 [Edit]
>>29382
i feel like the following quote is very related to your sentiment

>"As the measure of man moves from his genes to his bank accounts, from his blood to his wallet, from what he is to what he owns, the worth of man as a biological organism dwindles, until finally he is no longer fit to live in the world."

this pod really is just the capstone on the commodification of human life, it was inevitable. now there is not a single domain of human experience left where we are not being sold a product.
>> No. 29528 [Edit]
>>29382
It's so funny isn't it? Guns have been traditionally used for killing yourself, they're really effective and they kind of test your committment to dying, regardless of causes or morals. It takes a lot of courage and guts to step into a rom alone with a gun, you know the trigger doesn't fuck around. It's not like jumping in from of a train or from a few story home. A bullet is absolute, total and quick death (before anyone interjects here, lets assume it's not a pitiful 9mm or any other kids gun).

So why then, create this pod instead of just building a shack with a glued down gun inside? Because Anon is right, this demonic machine is the pinacle of everything wrong with modern times. More than that, a gun is ultimately a tool. A tool that can be used to release yourself from the suffering of this world. Or a tool you can use to fight back against those that never saw you as anything other than a number, a statistic, a process to extract wealth from and whose efficiency should've tuned to 100%. But they don't want that, for you to fight back I mean.

I've noticed more and more people have been getting into gnosticism. I'm not into it myself not because I don't believe it to be real but because I am simply too tired to delve into it properly. I just have a hunch those guys are real, man. There is something deeply evil and corrupted about how things currently are, and this suicide-pod machine thingy is proof of it.
>> No. 29529 [Edit]
A lot of overanalysis in this thread. A gun could work sure, but angle it the wrong way and you will only be permanently crippled instead of dead. The idea of the painless suicide machine and allowing people to choose what they want to do with their life (even end it) is noble enough. I wonder what the detractors think of Canada's MAID program, whether they'd consider that dystopic as well.

This machine is over-engineered though, and feels more like some sci-fi perversion rather than something practical. All you need is a helium mask (or some other inert asyphixiating gas, don't know which is the best). And who would want to spend their last moments in a confined pod, that's just stupid.
>> No. 29550 [Edit]
https://apnews.com/article/switzerland-suicide-capsule-people-detained-06d38d708d8b8b4b771bb2df047adfd0

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28502 No. 28502 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I was an avid user of one of 4chan's boards until I befriended someone off the board. They turned out to be a pretty bad person and would harass me every time I posted something on there, and...
I know this sounds weird but it really got to me. If someone was bullying me on Discord or even real life, I wouldn't care. Because who cares? I mask a lot in real life and I always try to be conscientious of how I come across to others. But I guess this particular board was something of a home to me, because when I stopped being able to use it the way I usually did, as an anonymous user, it felt like the real, vulnerable part of who I am was being attacked.
So I wonder, why is it that anonymity is so important to me? I wish I never compromised my anonymity, because I stopped being able to say how I really felt. The person I befriended would mock me, and it kind of consolidated the idea that normal people will not take kindly to who I am if I was actually myself. Do any others feel this way? I'm hoping this site's not too dead by the way.
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>> No. 29439 [Edit]
Meanwhile I use my phone for AI chats and other stuff for lulz and care for anonymity as much as don't. Really let them spy. Whatever they gather on me, lmao.
>> No. 29440 [Edit]
>>29439
I'm sure you have all the alphabet agencies spinning in circles as they try to make sense of your posts.
>> No. 29441 [Edit]
>>29440
I had a dream once where I saw a leaked google document of all internet users and found my real name and photo with the caption: clinically insane. I think since not even I can make sense of my behavior I must be safe from spies trying to draw patterns from me. I'm the embodiment of chaos.
>> No. 29443 [Edit]
>>29440
"This guy's fucking insane, but damn if he doesn't have good taste in girls. I love Osaka!"

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23136 No. 23136 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
Do you have any traumatic moments in your life you might want to share and talk about? It could be something deep in the past or a recent event. We're all friends here, feel free to let it out.
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>> No. 29292 [Edit]
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I think I might have suffered some severe form of abuse early in my life (like from 0 to 5 years old).
To begin with, I wet my bed until I was like 15 years old. Also, I had eating disorders, ate compulsively, was obese until I lost weight when I was in highschool. Also, I had very weird behavior until I was like 12 or so. I was extremely violent in school, specially in elementary school, I used to punch or push people for no reason. It's not like I was ever bullied, in fact everyone was always nice to me despite me being so weird, but I got into fights and was generally aggressive for no reason at all. Also, I was always very restless. When I was around 12 my personality started changing and I became more of the extreme introvert type, I mean not like I wasn't extremely introverted before but I settled down. Also I think I had dissociation-depersonalization disorder my whole life, I don't even rememeber most of my life before the pandemic. All of these are said to be signs someone was abused early in their lives. I'm a bastard son, my parents were never married, I had to go to my father's house on weekends due to court orders, and I rememeber I always used to cry a lot when I was with my father, and I don't remember exactly what happened whenever I was at his place, to this day I'm scared of him and feel uncomfortable around him for some reason. I don't really remember what happened, maybe nothing happened at all and I'm just a low IQ retard and all of these things happened just because I'm defective. My father is a low IQ schizophrenic type and my mother is a low IQ ADHD type, so naturally I would be born defective as well. But I feel like something might have gone awfully wrong very early in my life and it ruined everything. I will never really know.
>> No. 29293 [Edit]
>>29292
you should watch the joker (2019) he basically goes through exactly what you're describing right now
>> No. 29320 [Edit]
I literally had the biggest nightmare and it was about school. Holy fucking shit I'm not even in school right now I'm in my own home just how does trauma from the fucking school system screw me up that bad? I'm not safe at all from anything...I don't even know how to get over this.
>> No. 29374 [Edit]
>>29293
If you're going to mention Joker, I'm going to suggest Surge (2020).

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if so, did you ever move past that feeling? i know this sounds pathetic but i've been dealing with online stalking and harassment and i genuinely have never felt more mentally confused in my life. when i was younger, things and people made more sense. i felt more confident in my thoughts and my progression in the world.
after the whole stalking incident, i just feel paranoid all the time. i am constantly aware of how mentally unstable i come across to others when i have meltdowns after incidents, i just feel confused all the time. i didn't know people like this existed. i feel lost as to how anyone can function knowing there are people who are completely ruthless with their cruelty. the confusion is the part i don't like. i used to feel confident and safe when i did anything but the paranoia is driving me crazy and the feeling that they're out there, and often i am right, is what makes me feel insane. i need to start using other forms of social media because i no longer trust online security. i feel like im going insane after going through online harassment and i don't know how to deal with anything anymore without breaking down immediately from paranoia or insecurity.
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>> No. 29346 [Edit]
>>29344
>>29345
What the hell is "dogwhistling"?
>> No. 29348 [Edit]
literally what the fuck is this thread? if you're being stalked I'm not sure how this site can help you
>>29343
>spamming crossposter
who?
>> No. 29349 [Edit]
>>29346
that's just using an in-group's language and inside jokes outside of it to signal that you're part of said in-group
>> No. 29350 [Edit]
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This thread looks to have become less about the topic and more about the posters.

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29118 No. 29118 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Do you struggle with identity? It's been a big defining feature of my life.

Since turning 30 I've had something of a slow moving identity crisis. Before this I kind of went about things thinking that some day I'd find the right way to look at the world, find the right way to be and then my real life would start. I had always been made to feel like a problem so I put effort into fixing myself. Honestly I half assed that and spent most of my time playing grindy mmo's while watching youtube in the background. I rarely watch anime or movies, barely really "play games" and most of "my interests" are just background audio.

We have this idea that identity and selfhood are something intrinsic. I'm starting to realize the extent to which identity is something both done to you and something communal with only a small part being some mystical intrinsic element. Without socializing and being able to let your guard down I don't think it's possible to really "be a person"

It feels like I'm losing parts of myself. People will tell me to "just sit with it" or "look within" but that's all I've ever done. Just endlessly contemplate why I am the way I am while never voicing such things to other people. At the very least it is forcing me to be present and try more things even if the "try more things" is as bland as watching the kind of movie I'd never usually bother with.
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>> No. 29220 [Edit]
I used to have an "identity" but now I don't. The "self" I once had has vanished into oblivion. The more I think about it, the more distant and far away it gets. At the moment, I have no identity nor ego. I think this manages to be offputting to a lot of people because so many times people act out of identity/ego preservation. They act in certain ways towards me, intending to harm/wound my ego/identity, and when they are met with indifference, it's like a glitch in the matrix. See, I even watch people try to project their ways of operation onto me. "Winning" or "losing" doesn't matter to me. There are times where I've gotten into an internet argument, and the opposing party accused me of trying too hard to "win" an argument for brownie points. Yet I cared about neither of those things. I merely sought to confirm objective reality. I had no interest in convincing the other party. In fact, I hoped to learn quite a bit from the other party, and that our discussion was a mutual collaboration although a clashing one. But, the thought is silly and naive, the idea of having a good-faith argument online.
>> No. 29221 [Edit]
A friendly reminder that real life arguments are pretty much the same. I've no clue how it's supposed to work, but I figured most people get in arguments for the sake of the argument itself. They want a fight, and of course they (consciously or not) want to win. That's why they get aggressive and accusing when they feel like they're losing. They never intended to draw any conclusions, or to come to terms, or in general they never intended anything except a verbal fight they were supposed to win somehow. I guess it's some deep primal desire, the one that makes people butcher each other in absence of law.
>> No. 29222 [Edit]
I definitely try to be someone else depending on who I am talking to. Even here as an anon I try to hide things or come off a certain way to avoid rejection. So I suppose I'm always a bit of a mirror.
>> No. 29260 [Edit]
Not really, but more just that the world is moving past me and I'm out of my time period. Now I'll just exist until I die because the present isn't my time.

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28470 No. 28470 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How have you changed since then? Did your future align with what you expected?

I have visited this board every now and then since 2011. Back then, I was 15 years old. Not much has changed since then, meaning everything I was worried about came true. Still live with my parents, never got a 3DPD, never made friends after high school. One thing that did change which I did not expect was that I stopped watching anime (by about 2019). I became primarily interested in different things as far back as 2014. Everything I became interested in was still normie repellant, though.

In my opinion, the only thing better about the internet and life in general compared to back then is the existence of decent AI. Oh, the "Vtuber" phenomenon was kind of nice for a while, too.
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>> No. 28997 [Edit]
>>28985
>non-24 sleep-wake disorder
I looked this up, and apparently it's not normal for your sleep times to constantly be moving. Wow. I've lived like this most of my life, and I didn't know it could possibly be considered a disorder. I've never ever been able to properly keep a schedule. The only way I can keep a schedule is through work or school, but even then, it's like my body revolts at me for trying to wake up at a normal human time.
>> No. 29070 [Edit]
>>28985
>>28997
>non-24 sleep-wake disorder
counting me thats three of us that have this supposedly rare condition. do you guys think you developed this from too much computer use? because im pretty sure i wasnt born like this.

also as uninteresting as it is i would really like to hear from any NEETs who DONT have this condition, as i find it kinda hard to believe that if you can choose when you sleep that you do it at the same time for months on end. i know of two other people who have constantly shifting sleep schedules/alluded to that fact, but ive never actually heard someone affirm that they arent capable of shifting their sleep schedule.
>> No. 29074 [Edit]
>>29070
I don't know if I have this exact condition, but my sleep schedule is definitely not the "ideal" one - I wake up randomly throughout the night, and I seem to function best at 12am-1am.

Neets stereotypically seem to have shifted sleep schedules. While it could be possible that they habituated themselves to this, I also wonder if maybe there's a shared genetic trait here. Sleep schedule has known links to things like schizophrenia, depression, etc..
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>>29074
I have the inverse, I sleep solidly after initially waking but up I fall back asleep usually 4 times before getting up. Regarding hours, I have a fairly wide sleep-timing-range that typically is between 2-5 but fairly consistently get out of bed around noon. Sometimes it's related to physical ailments resulting in drowsiness, but in the end it's largely disciplinary as even when I wake up with a clear mind I usually still stay in bed till it feels wrong to do so, the comfort of the bed is too great as is the effort to physically rise when I'm horizontal. I've been meaning to attempt raising the angle of my bed to see if it alleviates the latter but have yet to do so.

Regarding high proportion of night hours, it's mostly preference; I covet the night's silence and the stillness it brings. Beyond such, for me, I think another reason that may contribute to crepuscular sleep cycles are aligning the hours at which it feels normal to eat with my digestive system (i.e hunger and energy shifts from eating). I only eat one meal a day and a small snack around midnight, my hours being as they are has the historical range for supper time fall around 5-6 hours after I get up, this aligns with when I begin to feel hungry, it also allows the main digestion to finish just before the sun begins to set, which feels nice.

>>29070
>ive never actually heard someone affirm that they arent capable of shifting their sleep schedule
I think that's as it should be, to reflect the shifting of the suns hours, whether or not you prefer light or dark, circadian rhythm and all that, I would guess most animals are like this. Though that makes me curious as to whether ethnicities who historically reside primarily around the equator have greater difficulty to/from shifting their sleep schedules
>too much computer use? because im pretty sure i wasnt born like this.
Perhaps, contemporary artificial lighting methods are a lot harsher than a candle,
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25323 No. 25323 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Post random things you remember. Little things that left an impression on you.

I was driving with my mom somewhere around the time I was in middle school. It was a long ride. I summarised the plots of eva and saya no uta to her. She seemed bored and a little put-off, but I think she was listening. Then she started talking about how Japanese people have a genetic propensity for cruelness which explained why they would make such things. I thought it was an interesting theory.
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>> No. 29216 [Edit]
>>29215
I used that term loosely after reading the recent posts above mine, don't read much into it. I'm familiar with that type of experiences too but I don't have it in me to blog about them right now.
>> No. 29217 [Edit]
>>29214
I'm confused, isn't japan a culture of honor? Do you mean culture of machismo or something?

Also that is a very cute picture.
>> No. 29218 [Edit]
>>29217
I was going to tell you to google it but after doing that myself, I think I used that term too loosely because I had a different idea of what it meant from hearing it out of context. Machismo sounds like a better descriptor for the overt types of power plays and retribution that I detest but I also had in mind the collectivist aspect of Japan; I'd much rather have a place in society by being useful and be left alone to do what I want in my free time as long as I'm not bothering others instead of having to navigate all of that.

>Cute picture
Yes, she looks squishy reading her mags. Since it's 2D, hugging her must feel better than whatever I can imagine.

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>> No. 29219 [Edit]
>>29218
yes the bad-side of "culture of honor" in Japan is that of "saving face". I mentally place it somewhere proximal to machismo in that in both cases you have some expected ideal in relation to society, but in their quest to conform people end up going over the top to appease the letter of the thing instead of the spirit.

And so you end up with things like some CEO of a company refusing to take responsibility because doing so would tarnish his image (loss of "face"), even though ironically accepting blame/responsibility would be the actually honorable thing to do. Similar to machismo, it gets perverted into people one-upping one another and picking fights just to show their "manliness". What is supposed to be virtuous is perverted into superficial posturing.

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29206 No. 29206 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
even if i self-immolated, nobody would care, at most id be called a 'mental health case', as if everything i said has no meaning because of it, given as much empathy or attention as those asylum seeks on nauru who have killed themselves out of protest

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27871 No. 27871 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Are there any themes or subjects in media that you just can't handle?
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>> No. 28324 [Edit]
>>28323
Because they're a virgin with rage.
>> No. 28325 [Edit]
>>28324
This is TC though...
>> No. 29199 [Edit]
>>27871
i guess rape, or other sexual abuse or related trauma.
i generally dislike how demonized any positive display or portrayal of sex and sexuality seem to be (generally speaking, anyway, clearly some people take it to an extreme); it seems like, in some cases, the only "acceptable" way anything sexual can be portrayed in media is in the context of some horrible trauma.
i've never particularly understood why sex is so maligned, since i feel like it should be a pretty natural urge to have, so i guess my brain interprets stuff like that in media as either the author or the audience going "see this? you're no better than him. you're the worst kind of scum" and the thought of that genuinely makes me feel really sick and depressed, sometimes to the extent of killing any feelings of sexual desire i may have for weeks at a time.
for some reason, every girl i speak to, at least online, seems to have some horrible sexual trauma, and that makes me feel bad for even being near them. do they think i'm a threat? do they think everyone around them is out to get them? the vast majority of people (probably) aren't predators of some kind. at least, i know i'm not, but people seem to have a weird "one rotten apple spoils the bunch" mentality these days, you see it online all the time where people seem to have such an irrational fear of men, so i just feel gross about it...

on the flipside of this, i see other people online who i can only describe as needlessly edgy, for lack of a better term. "it's normal/it already happens a lot/it's in our nature, so you're pathetic for not being able to handle this!" i'm not a rapist, nor have i ever had any adjacent desire to do such a thing. i really hate people who try to reduce human behavior to a science to try and justify weird backwards mentalities.

i guess on some level, i am just overly sensitive. i'm having a hard time looking at the screen as i type this. even seeing the word makes my insides churn.

tangentially related, but i also don't like grimdark at all. less that i "can't handle it", it doesn't mak
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>> No. 29205 [Edit]
>>29199
To me it's always felt more like there's only one way where it's appropriate to be sexual. Heterosexual, dominant man, submissive (but not too submissive) woman. Guy reads woman's mind and she's always frustrated anyways. Anything less gets seen as something to mock, some kind of abomination or an interesting little sideshow people play lipservice towards accepting while secretly laughing under their breath.

For context I'm a guy with strong submissive tendencies. Hard not fly into self hate when it's so stigmatized. At best people will insinuate that I'm gay or that something happened to me as a kid that requires I go to some kind of sub to dom conversion therapy because that's the cultural default.

I think I get where you're coming from though. I think part of what drew me to sub fantasies was chronic shame around sex which made me feel bad for being horny. Then I eroticized the shame and mixed it with other things and you get... whatever is going on with my fantasies now.

>every girl i speak to, at least online, seems to have some horrible sexual trauma
It tends to make people angry but a large part of this is socialized fear.

I grew up evangelical and they kept teaching me about how dangerous and sinful the world was. About how under every rock there was some stranger ready to murder you, sell you drugs, etc. Most of it was bull but it didn't stop it from serving as the root of a strong agoraphobia that I don't think can ever be cured. Meds help but they turn me into a zombie and that's not living.

Younger generations seem hyperaware of every possible threat while our environments are far, far more safe than they've ever been. It's in their head but emotionally speaking perception outweighs reality.

Keep in mind online you're self selecting for people who for whatever reason are more anxious and agoraphobic.
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28910 No. 28910 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Hello Tohno-chan.

I love you.
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>>29188
can you take your own advice and stop lashing out, at least? not that I completely disagree with it
>>29182
I hesitate against caring for the same reasons as >>/so/28883 but I can relate to the posts here more than anywhere else, including yours. So I guess I feel the same...

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>> No. 29190 [Edit]
>>29189
If I could take my own advice I wouldn't even be here.
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>>28913
I've honestly never seen T-C as being dead. If compared to its heyday around when it started then maybe, but there's still frequent posts ... quality over quantity. Maybe I just have higher standards for calling something such. Having something that's the opposite of what's considered "dead" nowadays seems like a Monkey's Paw situation anyways; more activity would be nice, but what it would bring alongside it worries me more.
>> No. 29230 [Edit]
>>29226
Looking at the affairs of lainchan I can't help agreeing with you.

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29093 No. 29093 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I have been into Japan for most of my life, long before it became popular and "cool". Been watching anime since I was a toddler and ended up developing a taste for Japan. I like japanese culture, not only anime, manga and other otaku stuff but also literature, folk music, shinto/zen rituals and many other aspects of Japan I have been slowly learning. However, I never learned Japanese and now I'm slowly aproaching my 30s and I still don't know Japanese. I have tried many times but I fail to keep a routine and following instructions on learning. I have never been a good student but even so, I feel so frustrated at my incompetence. I feel like a failure because I can't even understand Japanese after all these years and the older I get the dumber I become. I have fried my brain and now I will never be able to learn Japanese. I know it sounds silly and yes I obviously don't plan on living there so there's no practical use for such language but I feel like I should know Japanese. There are so many untranslated games, novels and movies. I wish I had what it takes to sit down and learn but I'm probably too dumb for that.
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>> No. 29099 [Edit]
>>29098
>¨force¨ myself to watch and read everything in JP
At least for me, doing so is a chicken/egg situation since if I watch the shows I like in JP then I will miss out on too much nuance to really appreciate it. And conversely I feel watching shows I don't like in JP just to get through it is a waste of time.
>> No. 29101 [Edit]
It's not that you are dumb.
>there's no practical use for such language
You have summed it up.

Did you actively try to learn your language ? No, because you had a practical use of it.
>> No. 29127 [Edit]
Unfortunately, TC's too strict spamfilter has struck another one. As the convention, the ban has been removed.
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>>29099
I want to add that what you mentioned is the reason why I dropped it many times; I used to try to look up every single grammar point I didn't get or be autistic about words that had no exact English translation. It's something we are able to understand one day, like how the average anime viewer could tell you what やはり (yahari) means from seeing it translated in different ways many times. The ¨slog¨ is dealing with the frustration of it at first and having to look up almost every word (this is where anki can be helpful). Wasting an hour to get through a single manga chapter because I wanted to understand exactly what they meant wasn't fun, no matter how compelling the manga was. It wasn't until I took a break from anime after my 2nd burnout of it that I wanted to come back to it exclusively in Japanese. Some try to devalue it a little, thinking ¨it's just a show¨. I understand not wanting to miss out on nuance but I don't force myself to watch anything, that's why I put it in quotes. Re-watching anime you've forgotten in Japanese can help with that. Conversely, you can do what I do and convince yourself that you are getting the real nuance of it because you are watching it in JP. Sorry for blogg*ng
>> No. 29134 [Edit]
>>29127
If you are crafty you could swap the order of the slogging by taking transcript of anime (or use a deck for a manga if someone else has created it) and then SRS'ing on that _before_ watching the show.

[I haven't really seen a good push-button workflow for this for arbitrary shows though. And the state of publicly available Japanese tokenizers was really bad up until 1 year ago (I always find it amusing that it took LLMs basically solving the entire field of NLP to give us something better than the SOTA released in 2006)].

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