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13455 No. 13455 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
For all of us dealing with problems in this regard.

Do you have any sort of condition/disorders? Are you depressed? Did you ever seek professional help? What are you doing to overcome your current situation?

General mental health discussion thread.
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>> No. 22308 [Edit]
>>13455
I have depression and generalized anxiety disorder, both pretty bad. Also drug addiction which is a mental health thing I guess. I had a psychiatrist for a while but the therapy was pretty much 'have you tried not thinking like that' so I stopped going. To overcome my anxiety I just don't go anywhere unless I'm drunk or high, and nothing helps the depression besides sleep. I used to sleep 6 hours a night but now I sleep up to 12 hours a day because it makes everything go away. At least I stopped self harming
>> No. 22309 [Edit]
>>22307
>I'm pretty envious. I wish I could get legal speed. Unfortunately my family is too impoverished for me to seek proper mental health care.
I was actually reflecting on this after it happened. Healthcare is still kind of publicly funded in my country but it has been eroded, so I'm still $100 out of pocket at each appointment and $10 per 100 amphetamine pills. Got me thinking that I might have done this years ago if money was no issue, back when I still had some will to strive.
Now that most drugs which could improve someone's life are controlled, it's almost like they are only obtainable to people who are already well off, rather than those who often need them most. People who can't afford treatment often end up self medicating with alcohol, weed or ice which just fuck their lives up further in a vicious cycle. Same thing with smoking: it's still cheaper to smoke than use nicotine replacement even when cigarettes are taxed sky high. Unhealthy food is cheaper than healthy food. The list goes on, shit's fucked.
>> No. 22310 [Edit]
>>22309
>People who can't afford treatment often end up self medicating with alcohol...
Oh yeah, I have an irresponsible observation relating to this: I have found since starting amphetamine it is a lot easier to reach a lovely level of drunkenness without the normal sedation and shitty feeling. No doubt because this is so enjoyable it's harmful in some way, maybe there is synergistic neurotoxicity or some other awfulness. Because you know, experience shows there can't be happiness in life without suffering down the line to outweigh it tenfold.
>> No. 22647 [Edit]
I turned 18 not long ago and I realized I have actual mental retardation. Not imageboard autism, I mean really retarded. Someone who starts sperging, having seizures or epilepsy out of the blue, say things you didn't want or mean to, display weird facial expressions for no reason, start laughing by yourself sometimes even in public for no reason, have absolutely no sense of balance or any motor coordination, inability to connect with others in any way, not even on imageboards, have not at least marginally normal emotional reactions, strongly react to sounds and touching, constantly live in a world of delusions and mirages created by your own mind, feel like you're constantly tripping on psychedelic mushrooms, have your inner brain constantly work in very weird, broken ways. I could go on. Basically think of an ugly drooling retard. That's me. After I finished highschool I have been a NEET since November and was indulging upon my life. The last straw that only confirmed my thesis was finding out I used to take medicine for the retarded since a young age. This is not something I wish for anyone no matter how evil they might be. To live in a constant state of uncertainty, knowing that because of some condition outside your reach, everything you see, hear, smell, taste, touch, everything you experience, that you think, feel, perceive, thats all invalid, worthless, meaningless, devoid of any certainty. That is to be retarded. You're constantly a bother to others for simply being alive. You break any object you touch, you hurt people you don't even know, you're unwelcome in any place even on these imageboards. You constantly live in a world of pain, suffering, despair, set up by your own brain, something that cannot be removed, almost as if a paranoia or schizophrenia. There's no way to tell anything you do or say (read as "type", since I don't talk at all), is any good. In fact, I take it as a rule that anything I do is bad, since I'm inherently a bad person. Right now with this post I'm shitting up a potentially great thread on a great imageboard. There's one thing I'm thankful for being born like this and that is the insights and intelligence. I can easily imagine and see wonderful, beautiful, amazing things. Not in the artistic or philanthropic sense. But in the sense of mathematics, enginee
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21715 No. 21715 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
I live in Liverpool, England.

Just out of curiosity, everyone seems to be american.
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>> No. 22243 [Edit]
India
>> No. 22295 [Edit]
>>22123
near huyton
>> No. 22305 [Edit]
Ukraine

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19645 No. 19645 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
Why are you unhappy, /tc/?
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>> No. 22292 [Edit]
I don't have money. It all comes down to the problem of not being rich.
>> No. 22293 [Edit]
I'm more angry than sad.
Every day I care less about being worthless, malicious, destructive and evil. So what? Long before I was actually bad it felt like the whole reality never wasted an opportunity to remind me how everything is my fault and responsibility. For a long time it succeeded, now I rarely give a shit. Hate normal people, hate happy people, hate all that zen gibberish about acceptance, harmony and enlightenment.
Fuck, I've been wronged so many times by people who consider themselves (and are considered by others) good and proper human beings but I'm the fucked up fiend who needs to get over everything, move on yadda yadda and and act like people didn't make me what I am now? No, fuck that, it makes me dangerously angry and I refuse any responsibility.
I even find it hard to talk to other losers now, most seems to be above me, sometimes in strange ways but still.
Wish I could take everything from everyone and watch the world wither, it doesn't deserve anything else. Shame I'm so powerless.
>> No. 22294 [Edit]
>>22293
1. Acquire power.
2. Start eugenics programs.
3. Modify social structure.
4. Swear allegiance to the Covenant's Crown.
>> No. 22299 [Edit]
Because I still haven't found that youtube video with keine and mokou running on a treadmill again

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22206 No. 22206 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Do you have a tulpa? If so, what is she like?
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I've never believed in tulpa, but for the first time I wish it was possible. I understood madness it's not about being out of your mind, but the opposite: to lock yourself in. From Kant onwards, man realized the world the subject knows is no other than the world he builds, and I no longer have any resistance to fully embrace my inner world. As Mark Twain put it: it's nothing but a dream, a grotesque and senseless dream, so we should dreams other dreams; better ones.

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>> No. 22284 [Edit]
>>22230
I don't have a tulpa myself, but by normie standards, your "mental state" would already have to be abnormal or damaged to have a waifu instead of pursuing a normal relationship. How does one decide where to draw the line? It's already clear that most of us don't much care for what normal people consider correct, normal, or perhaps even mentally stable.

It's also worth noting that many (most?) normies have deluded themselves into believing rather grandiose and unbelievable things, even if they aren't outright sensual hallucinations. At least people that have tulpas are aware that they're inducing hallucinations. I'd have to think the people that legitimately view the world in a way that's far disconnected from reality (ie: feminists or religious fanatics) are much worse off in terms of sanity.
>> No. 22285 [Edit]
I'd love to have a tulpa but im just not the kind of guy. Part of me still thinks I got trolled beyond comprehension.

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22268 No. 22268 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
NEETs on welfare or disability, how did you do it? Please help. My best friend wants to kill himself. The working life is getting to him, and he's been exhausted for a long time. He won't accept any help I give him, and he doesn't want to talk to me but I don't want him to die. He doesn't want to die either, but he'll probably end up dying after all his savings disappear.

I just need to find a sustainable way for him to not work and stay alive. Moving in with his parents isn't an option. They don't get along well.
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>> No. 22280 [Edit]
>>22278
Best of luck to you both. It might not be easy to try and go on SSI or disability, but it could be worth a shot. Believe me, if I knew that I could easily do it, I would. I've got fucked up feet, which limits the amount of standing I can do, and likely have some form of depression/anxiety/autism or something, but since nothing was really diagnosed in my childhood aside from my feet, I would personally probably not be able to get it.

The people who can judge or diagnose you are pretty good at spotting fakers. Couldn't hurt to try though.
>> No. 22281 [Edit]
>>22268
>My best friend wants to kill himself. The working life is getting to him.
This is the reason I dread stop being a HikiNEET. I fear that I might be enthralled by pleasures (able to afford more, praise if I'm good at what I do, love, etc.) and once I wake up from such illusions I'll realize I'm a miserable wageslave and just finally end it.
>How did you do it?
I honestly don't know how I managed to stay (intermittently) a NEET for so long. I leech of the government and I think maybe they pity me or some other bureaucratic excuse (e.g. someone new comes, loses my folder, I don't get a catch-up appointment at the NEETcenter for a year).

I wish I could give you advise, but I assume you're from USA and I don't live there. Good luck though.
>> No. 22282 [Edit]
So this person doesn't even want to talk to you (your own words) and you think you're friends? Maybe he is depressed because after a long day of work that last thing he wants to do deal with your bullshit. Full time is draining no matter what job it is. He works at a call center because that is all he is good paying for, its awful work but its consistent and pays. If he is completely miserable, that is his problem. Least he has a job.


Not everyone can just kick their feet up and let the government or parents let them cruise through life. Everyone wants to kill themselves, its part of the modern human condition.
>> No. 22283 [Edit]
>>22282
The word is arbitrary... I still care for him and value him as a person. Maybe the friendship isn't mutual, but that doesn't mean much to me. I try not to bother him with my problems, but maybe I just radiate toxicity.

>Everyone wants to kill themselves, its part of the modern human condition.
Everyone is no concern of mine. I only care about him, and I know he's not a special snowflake in the greater scheme of things, but I'm still willing to do as much as I can to keep him alive. I think his mental condition + resilience is weaker than most others, but whatever.

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22193 No. 22193 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
what is your disability?
>> No. 22194 [Edit]
I have nothing diagnosed, but it's actually pretty likely I'll wind up with feet disability at some point in my life. I was born with fucked up feet and I feel like they've started to really detoeriate in the last 2 years.
>> No. 22199 [Edit]
Mainly strong scoliosis and related problems.
>> No. 22203 [Edit]
>>22194
That's so vague. What about your feet is fucked up, and how are they deteriorating?

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21916 No. 21916 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Have you?
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>> No. 22072 [Edit]
Been on and off, mostly for survival purposes.
>> No. 22073 [Edit]
never
>> No. 22076 [Edit]
I already gave it an earnest shot but now I'm destined to be a shut-in I guess.
>> No. 22196 [Edit]
You can go outside and formally stop being a shut-in, but you'll never stop being one inside.

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21920 No. 21920 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I don't fucking get people. I don't get how people can have friends, how people make them, or hold onto them. All around me people are garbage. I've tried, I mean really TRIED to be nice and friendly with people. I'd offer advice, do them favors, try to take interest in things they like... yet at the end of the day I have no friends. It fucking drives me insane talking to people sometimes. For one they never shut up about themselves and interrupt you every chance they get just to talk about themselves some more, they don't care about anyone else and it's nothing but MEMEMEMEMEEMEME to them, yet trying to be a good listener have never gotten me anywhere. They just use me, take advantage of me then toss me aside when I'm no longer useful. Then there's obnoxious habit they have of clearly ignoring half of what I say/ask when we talk or take hours to days to respond because of how low priority I am to them, often times only to return to blab on about a completely unrelated issue to what we were talking about. I'd always think to myself they have their reasons, or maybe I did/said something wrong. This is just so god damn fucking frustrating. Why the fuck is it so hard to just respond to people like a decent fucking human being?! If someone is bothering you then why not tell them to leave you alone if you don't like them?! god I can't stand people. I fucking hate humanity. I can't understand how these pieces of human filth are able to have 'friends'. How can anyone like them when they act this way? How do people fucking put up with this shit? what the fuck do I have to do to have a single fucking friend?! Clearly being nice to people, helping them whenever I can, always being there for them, or even bribing them with gifts doesn't fucking work. what am I doing wrong? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT FROM ME?!
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I don't even know why I care. I'd try so hard to make people like me or to just get along with people whenever I'd have the chance, but in the end I just can't fucking stand them. Sometimes I'd get sad or even a bit jealous when I see people with friends or lovers. Part of me wants to experience these things as someone who has never really had any of that. Heck I find myself very grateful when people actually reach out and try to talk to me or when people show any kind of interest in me. Most of the time however I honestly find them annoying. It makes me feel like a massive hypocrite when I want to have friends, but more often than not the people who I talk with online end up being a nuisance. Maybe not right away, but in talking with people a lot of the times I'll slowly start to wish they'd leave me alone so I can get back to whatever it was I was doing. Most people are just tiresome to be around and I enjoy being alone, but it still feels like I'm missing out...

Even with the romance side of things, as a nearly 30 year old virgin it bothers me at times that I've never had the chance to get involved in a relationship. it boggles my mind how people treat each other so horribly but keep going back for more, where as I've had nothing but the best intentions and have gotten nothing. Thing is though, When I really (and I mean REALLY) stop to think about the idea of being in a relationship with someone it fills me with a bit of dread. Sexual intercourse doesn't seem bad when it's in the 2D form, but the 3D variant is just disgusting to me and is not something I want to see let alone take part in. I shiver at the thought of kissing someone, and I don't even much like physical contact with other people. I'm gonna die alone, and it's in my best interest, but it doesin't really feel that way sometimes.
>> No. 22183 [Edit]
>>22182
>it boggles my mind how people treat each other so horribly but keep going back for more
Sexuality is inversely correlated with how nice you are. If you're trying hard to please people unconsciously think you're lower status and become sexually and socially repulsed. Are you suddenly not attracted to women because they mock you with contempt? That's what drives your attraction.

There's nothing more offputting than some sad, mentally unstable loser. Man or woman.
>> No. 22184 [Edit]
>>22183
The people I meet rarely show contempt for me (as far as I know), It's usually indifference. I don't beg people to be my friend or try to use pity if that's what you're thinking. I'm also not dumb enough to make my problems known unless I'm talking to someone with the same problems, let alone act mentally unstable. In fact people repeatedly take interest in me and like me a lot at first, but gradually loose interest and drift away. You might think that they realize deep down I want to be left alone, but I don't believe this to be the case. It happens even with people I do enjoy talking with.

>There's nothing more offputting than some sad, mentally unstable loser. Man or woman.
Personally I find them far more appealing than the alternative.
>> No. 22185 [Edit]
>>22184
>Personally I find them far more appealing than the alternative.

Same. Birds of a feather.

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22046 No. 22046 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Why is it that neets/hikis who've sought help from the mental health industry have rarely expressed positive experiences from it? Seems like the only good reason a floor shitter would seek help is to build a case for bux.
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>> No. 22171 [Edit]
>Because normie platitudes don't work for people that don't come with the normie chip pre-installed

As he says, people that had happy normal childhoods and normal relationships with people and learned how to deal with them are incompatible with people that had neither of those things. They can't understand how these "patients" deal with stuff and why they take life like they do.

/thread
>> No. 22172 [Edit]
>>22171
When you're forced to abandon NEETdom, why don't you guys become therapists so you can help people like yourselves?
>> No. 22173 [Edit]
>>22172
How am I supposed to help anyone when I can't help myself?
>> No. 22174 [Edit]
>>22171
Since you quoted me... What I meant was slightly different. There is a variation between people that goes beyond experiences and learning, something we are born with or without, which is what I refered to as "chip". That's why there are introverts and extroverts, people who are naturally reclusive and people who need others' attention all they long. I had a relatively normal childhood and I've been able to survive in a few relationships, yet my "wiring" never changed... Always remained a hermit of sorts, getting anxious over social situations, getting stressed when approached by people I don't trust and so on.

My reply was more meant to emphasize that psychologists and therapists tend to make the mistake of giving advice from the viewpoint of a normally wired person, without taking into account the variations in character and personalities that their patients have... resulting in the patients trying methods that will ultimately hurt then, both short-term and in the long run.

Please remember never to underestimate how circumstance affects people. Someone whose childhood and life others might envy, could secretly be ridden with an amount of misery (that when unveiled) others will definitely not want to go through in exchange for that very same stranger's life they wish for.

>>22172
Being able to relate does not equate to being able to professionally help someone with psychological issues. There is a lot of training and knowledge behind therapy. Plus >>22173 is right too.

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22005 No. 22005 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is suicide the only way out?
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>> No. 22081 [Edit]
I can't stop thinking about Lain. It's making me extremely depressed. I don't even wish she were real or that I were in her world. I just wish I could, experience her, for lack of a better word. Sort of like how she became omnipresent herself. It's tough to describe but all I can say definitively is that everything else feels inadequate in comparison.
>> No. 22082 [Edit]
>>22026
>and technological substitutes for suicide may become available in the near future.
True, I never thought of that.
>> No. 22085 [Edit]
I want to die, please kill me.
>> No. 22086 [Edit]
>>22085
Hi, me too.

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21065 No. 21065 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
It's my birthday today and I don't have much to do.
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>> No. 22064 [Edit]
>>21712
Turned 20 two days ago. Now I hate myself and my parents do as well. I'm supposed to get a job but no one will hire. I wish I was still a kid when I didn't have to worry about adult responsibilities and society.
>> No. 22065 [Edit]
>>22064
>I wish I was still a kid when I didn't have to worry about adult responsibilities and society.
Don't we all, anon...
>> No. 22066 [Edit]
>>22065
I don't. I despise my younger self.
>> No. 22069 [Edit]
I usually just buy myself a small gift.

but this year, my gf came here from Japan!

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