This makes no sense. What the hell is a erasmus?

I thinks it's uncertainty, fear of the unknown.
You'll come around, don't worry.

>>23778
Student and work exchange program.

once you go through something like that you'll feel compelled to make use of what you learned because of all the time and effort you invested in completing the studies and training. inevitably "making use of what you learned" will consist of slaving away making profits for some narcissist with an inherited business or someone else who got to their position of authority through nepotism or some other sleazy dishonest means. a lot of that hard work, valuable skills and effort they try to make you learn in school isn't intended for your own benefit, so don't feel like you're making a mistake if you don't follow the normie drone path to what they define as a successful life. their definition is self serving, nobody wants to admit that they've been tricked into slavery, makes them feel foolish and lose face. if it turns out that you want to be a hermit and live in a cave and make cave drawnings that nobody else will ever look at and you go ahead and do that and enjoy it then you've had a successful life. if you were born 20,000 years ago as a semicivilized halfmonkey and never left the valley you were born in an just sat in a tree and at fresh fruit and masturbated all day until you were eaten by a lion and no anthologist ever dug up your skeleton then you would have had a successful life. if you suffer miserably trying to make other people happy and satisfy their desires and expectations they will just continue to take advantage of you and you will be left with regrets and feel like a chump. furthermore the worst of the other people will seek you out for manipulation with leech-like coldness and instinct.

kakusu because /so/ is gay and i'm a retard

>>23779
>>23777
I am feeling better now, maybe I just needed to let it go out.

Lord knows I've met a few in my time.

>>23714
Yeah, quite manipulative people. Have encountered a few even here.

>>23706
>whining about how people won't talk to you
Point out to me immediately where I complained about people not wanting to talk to me.
>and then talking about them like they're one collective hivemind
A collectivist society is not equal to a collective hivemind, maybe you should get up, look in a mirror and tell yourself "Stop being a retard and acquire reading comprehension".
>i'm introverted as hell
[x] Doubt.

Today I was talking to someone it was clear that they didn't understand what I was talking about, and they proceeded to explain something really simple that I already know. I just gave up trying to continue talking about it after that, since it was clear that nothing I said was getting through.

I'm the loud one who annoys others with my useless talking.

No really. I very rarely meet people who only discuss boring stuff I'm not interested in. Maybe I'm interested in to many things.

I only noticed that people always change topics when you have something interesting to tell but I think that's a point of few thing, maybe I did often enough switch to topic to something I wanted to talk about.

Maybe I just was luck mostly meeting people I want to talk to.

>>23709
That's the worst and it's almost never by people who actually understand what they're trying to baby you on either. It'd be a lot less annoying if the people who acted that way actually had a reason to, but sometimes people try it and even condescend with an incorrect understanding of said basic principle.

>>23674
>t I just end up getting jealous of the characters who can act so friendly towards each other, every time I watch some happy anime like Hidamari Sketch or something I just feel like there's a hole in my chest
I think you might like Asobi Asobase.

>>23675
I'll check it out, thanks for the recommendation.

Many people are bored with modern life. Without imminent dangers a man gets dull, so he seeks something to cope with that. Violence in media might be a direct consequence of that.

>>23703
It's not violence in particular, but rather a general lack of satisfying problem solving. Working away at the same task like a robot everyday isn't exactly mentally stimulating. I find the most pleasure in dealing with mathematical or scientific problems, violence is certainly one thing that can entertain though. I just feel that as a whole humans like to have puzzles to solve, and without that conflict we are bored.

>>23560
>see Recovery of an MMO Junky
Despite you didn't actually state it, but since it seems to be a trend here to misappropriate the term... Moriko Morioka is not a hikikomori, but rather a NEET (elito neeto, as she says it). While she has obvious social anxiety due to her seclusion, she doesn't have that much issue with going outside and even enjoys engaging in social interactions in crowded places as shown repeatedly.

That aside, working from home as a hikikomori is very hard because of how few of these types of jobs are. Been looking for such opportunities for years.

>>23561
Good point, very true. I just meant similar in that it's purposefully saving up to drop out of society. This is the route I took.
You are also right about working from home being very hard. I think a good idea is to diversify your income sources as much as possible. I don't personally do it but I hear people can do pretty well from cryptocurrency trading, so that might be worth looking into. You can also resell stuff, there's a guide somewhere about buying things from chinese sites and selling them on ebay for profit, without it ever going to your house. If you have specialist knowledge or skills you could probably turn that into money. Another option is creative stuff, if you build a little fanbase you can set up a patreon or ko-fi and make a little extra there. This could mean music, art, fanart, writing, blogging, reviewing, youtube, streaming etc. If you work hard it's possible even though it takes time and work, I make a little that way. Finally there's things like mturk which are essentially slave wages for a westerner but if you live in the 3rd world that much money can make a difference.

>>23562
>there's things like mturk which are essentially slave wages
Been trying to get into that for years now. Too bad there aren't any decent alternatives.

Savings, family support, extreme budgeting and subconsciously/consciously willing it.

>>23684
>or even places like discard
>why are people such massive fags?
It's intrinsic in such platform.
>it pisses me off to no end. What's the point of lurking in a channel and staying there
If you are connected through a desktop client, what difference does it make if you have an extra channel open? It's not like people open IRC just to lurk. That aside, people don't owe you their attention. You're not entitled to being interacted with because you joined a chat room, even if it makes no sense to you.
>Why are so many places dead pieces of boring shit?
A lot of IRC channels, forum communities, etc. are mostly vestiges from years ago, where people who still join or lurk do so out of routine, nostalgia, occasional reminiscence or even off-chance of encountering someone they interacted with in the past. Therefore, the degree of activity is vastly reduced from what it used to be. For discord the issue is different; since as a platform is designed to maximize circlejerking and prioritize identities over topics, people will naturally gravitate to communities that allow them to have their identities grow, or exploit them for attention, making the average lifespan of a channel incredibly short in comparison to IRC, so you're bound to find dozens if not hundred+ channels related to anime that are now either deserted or transformed into a clique's hideout.
>Why are so many people such annoyances to try talking with?
Impossible to answer because the problem could still be you.

>>23687
>That aside, people don't owe you their attention. You're not entitled to being interacted with because you joined a chat room, even if it makes no sense to you.
I see your point here, and now I am realizing that my post came off a bit differently than I intended, which is my fault. No point is good unless it is explained properly. It isn't very often that I visit random channels that I've never been to. I sometimes see one mentioned somewhere and decide to check it out. What I am annoyed by, that I didn't explain very well, is the common trend I see of egotistical bs. As in, people not responding to a simple question or treating one in an otherwise unfriendly manner on purpose. I am taking those things I described and viewing them as that. I understand that there are older communities where people don't talk so much anymore or lurk out of habit or what have you, like you said, but it seems to me that isn't the case with every channel. I don't expect to get social interaction every time I go some place and order people to talk to me or else I flip out and go crazy, it's that it is rare for anyone to even care. For example, if someone joins a channel and asks a simple question related to the community or topic around it, any reasonable person would expect that sooner or later, even after a few days someone would see that and bother to respond (so long as the person who asked is still there and the question isn't stupid). Of course there are places where people legitimately don't look and don't check, for the reasons you mentioned which really I hadn't thought much about, but make some sense. The origin of this is, there are some things I might find one small community for in form of an irc channel, and when I go there and see no active members it seems as if nobody cared about it in the first place. You'd think at least one other person would. As for discord, I realized a while back the platform was crap in more ways than one (namely the identity part as you said, more egotistical bs) and it should be treated that way as anyone reasonable wouldn't be using it as their platform of choice in

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You're never really gratified unless you're part of the founding population. It's all clique shit, and you have to know the right people to be invited to the cool clubs.

>>23635
The world doesn't owe you anything. That's true. But if someone has wronged you, the person owes you, not the world itself. If the person who wronged you in some way says that statement to justify their actions, that individual is a fool.

I'm the opposite. I use it on myself and it makes me feel less crap. The world takes and takes and it's about all it does. Pretending that it's a just place just gets my hopes up. At the end of the day, all you got is number one, expecting anything else to come through is just a crapshoot.

It's not really tactful, polite or even really correct to use it to cover your own crap, but the statement itself isn't strictly untrue when used in the right context.

"The world doesn't owe you anything" sounds like a phrase a baby boomer (who grew up in the wealthiest generation in human history) would tell a millennial who doesn't make much money, after being forced to go into massive debt for college, then do an unpaid internship, then get hired for minimum wage and no benefits. Boomers pretend that the world is just like it was when they were growing up, even though it is in fact vastly different now.

>>23636
The world doesn't owe you anything, not fairness or justice or happiness, as such is the way of the world. If this is true, then it stands to reason that you in turn do not owe the world fair conduct, equal and just exchange, or happiness. To owe, to be owed, and to have a set of rules for the benefit of one party, is something that must go both ways in a relationship between entities, or not at all. If the world and its laws will not regard me, then I shall not regard the desires and needs of the world or its laws. The world can only demand adherence to it's own wishes if it holds up its own end of the bargain, which is, in fact, the promise of just treatment under its care. If it fails to do so, or even refuses to do so, then the contract is voided, and I shall act accordingly with disregard for the world or its laws. You cannot give nothing yet expect to be given something in return.

I owe the world nothing, not observation of its laws nor fair exchange nor just treatment.

>>23649
Going to college certainly isn't for everyone, and some majors are pretty useless. But many majors lead to pretty straightforward career paths. It's really not as bad as you make it sound, unless someone studies gender studies or art or something. Besides, not all college is university. There's always trade schools, where you can learn welding, HVAC, or something like that.

>>23646
>But what you do need is determination.
What this means, in the case of college, is the ability to deal with four years of BS, that you not only do not get paid for but have to pay for yourself out the ass.

>>23647
This is true. I hear all the time about people who go to college, complete their degree, and do the exact same jobs they would be doing had they not gone to college in the first place. The only reason anyone should go to college is if they know for sure that whatever they study will let them go into a job that they know exists (and have the money to pay for it/can get financial aid from govt). Really, that's all it is good for. If all you want is to actually learn things, you can very well teach yourself. Going to school, spending the day in classes, then going back home to do work for those classes while having to be around a bunch of retards all day sounds like garbage to me. The only form of post-secondary education that I've seen that seems somewhat worth it are some trade programs at community colleges.

The other question you have to ask yourself is, even if you did go to college and get a degree that is worth something, would you even want to work at that higher paying job that you'd be able to get? I sure as hell wouldn't want to be a computer programmer or some sort of highly skilled position, that sounds like a pain in the ass. I'd rather deal with less work and get paid less accordingly. Not like many of us have families to pay for or whatever. It's much easier to live on low wages when you've only got yourself to pay for.

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>>23651
>I sure as hell wouldn't want to be a computer programmer or some sort of highly skilled position, that sounds like a pain in the ass
Programming is pretty much the only thing I enjoy anymore.

>>23652
Funny thing about doing what you love for a living, it turns what you love into a tedious chore.

>>23626
>Some people think beer is lame, or some activity for "normal" people, but it can really help if you have psychological issues
I think there's a lot of depth to alcohol, in terms of production, taste and variety. It's something I've been interested in learning more about from that perspective, although I completely understand why it has that image as well.

I can understand other types of alcohol sure, but beer just tastes like ass, what part of it do people like?

>>23628
Tastes good to me. I didn't like it when I was younger, but I guess my taste buds have changed over time.

>>23628
Some people like the fact that it tastes bitter. I don't know why, but I had a phase of loving bitter beer.

I usually avoid drinking nowadays, but a sour ale can be really nice once in awhile.

>>23598
honestly I think the biggest takeaway from this story is that people will eat up any non-issue the news hands to them. This does not deserve to be international news, no matter if you sympathise with the guy or not. It feels like they're trying to distract us from something.

He probably browses /tc/.

Well, not anymore I guess.

>>23604
Nah, he has a biological son.

>>23606
A manchild with a child of his own, now that's new.

>>23542
There's this thing call dreaming. It's very popular in some circles.

>>23544
Dreaming = living != dead.

> Mnemonic Induction of Lucid Dreams (MILD):
> 1. Set an alarm for five hours after you go to bed.
> 2. When the alarm sounds, try to remember a dream from just before you woke up. If you can’t, just recall any dream you had recently.
> 3. Lie in a comfortable position with the lights off and repeat the phrase: ‘Next time I’m dreaming, I will remember I’m dreaming.’ Do this silently in your mind. You need to put real meaning into the words and focus on your intention to remember.
> 4. Every time you repeat the phrase at step 3, imagine yourself back in the dream you recalled at step 2, and visualise yourself remembering that you are dreaming.
> 5. Repeat steps 3 and 4 until you either fall asleep or are sure that your intention to remember is set. This should be the last thing in your mind before falling asleep. If you find yourself repeatedly coming back to your intention to remember that you’re dreaming, that’s a good sign it’s firm in your mind.

I've never got this to work but there are many forums with people who swear by it.

>>23551
>you can only experience enjoyment from sleeping while awake
Sleeping is enjoyable while asleep as well. If you have a pleasurable or enjoyable dream, that pleasure and/or enjoyment is experienced while dreaming, not while awake. What you experience while awake is a memory.
>>23555
It's all fun and games until you get stuck in a waking up loop. Unless you have already mastered resetting and controlling circadian rhythm and managing sleep cycles, I'd stay away from trying lucid dreaming.