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29232 No. 29232 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is human nature constant or is it molded by culture? Can human nature be completely changed by culture or society?
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>>33557
>Warfare
Warefare also can't be considered daily life.

>Whether we are religious or not, most of our morals are derived from the bible as we are raised in a society that was made that way and much of these morals go against natural instinct.
To some extent, but there's many aspects of religion which does fit human nature. Fear of death, wanting an explanation for things, wanting to feel protected, wanting routine and tradition. I think cultural evolution is guided by human nature to the extent where the two can't be seperated. Communism could only come about by force and not natural development. Boiling human nature down to wanting food and sex is an over-simplification. I also think different groups of people are predisposed to forming certain types of culture.
>> No. 33562 [Edit]
>>33558
In some places it was fairly common, it's hard to tell what it was like in Europe but Europeans living amongst tribal people have noted that it was often quite frequent. But still, the average man would not be able to eat humans that often or there would be a discrepancy in the ratio of people killed to be eaten and people eating the killed. But it's likely more important people would eat humans on a more regular bases. On Fiji there was a tribal chief that would place a stone in a line behind his hut every time he ate a human, he had a line of 872 stones. But regardless of how frequent it was it was still done.

>Fear of death

Many societies didn't fear death, the samurai didn't and it could be said that religion was aimed at preventing it by telling people that it was okay to die, they would go to heaven.

There are some aspects of human nature that cultures will cultivate but some it will fight against.
>> No. 33563 [Edit]
>>33562
>Fiji
Small island. I'm not convinced there was ever any large society where cannibalism was viewed as no different from eating animals. Even then, it was a chief who probably wanted to show off how macho he is.
>But still, the average man would not be able to eat humans that often or there would be a discrepancy in the ratio of people killed to be eaten and people eating the killed
Eating people also poses a larger health risk since diseases are so easily passed.
>religion was aimed at preventing it by telling people that it was okay to die
That's what I meant. Religion is a solution to a problem. It was created partially for that reason.
>There are some aspects of human nature that cultures will cultivate but some it will fight against.
I agree with that and I already stated that, but while you think culture is more influential on people, I think culture's influence on people is just an extension of huamsn nature because cultures are formed the way they did because of that nature.
>> No. 33591 [Edit]
Depends on what you mean by “nature”. The way I understand it you can shape the response of the individuals to their innate nature but the actual nature doesn't change so I dunno.

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33511 No. 33511 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Where do you think beauty comes from? In non-living, natural things it just exists. By chance alone and probably very slowly, the earth forms things we see as beautiful: gemstones, waterfalls, mountains, canyons, etc. Living things though, do not become beautiful by chance. They always have a "reason" for it, whether they're aware of it or not. Beauty exists in living beings as a survival tactic, not for its own sake or by chance. An angler fish's light exists to draw prey to it, a rafflesia's smell is disgusting to us, but is attractive to insects, and flowers are colorful because that makes them more noticeable to bees. In animal reproduction, beauty is like a facade. It exists because it successfully tricks and ensnares.

Non-living things which humans make, like painted ladies, are different. The painted lady has no desires and they have nothing to gain from being beautiful. The painted lady is beautiful because their creator wanted them to be, not to get resources or protection. There's no underlying, self-serving manipulation to mare their beauty, so their beauty is more pure than a living being's.
>> No. 33513 [Edit]
>>33511
I think that's called "sublimation", when something goes beyond the mere natural reasons and reaches value for itself.
So yeah, 2D>3D.
>> No. 33514 [Edit]
>>33513
Do you think we'll be able to make 3-d painted ladies?
>> No. 33519 [Edit]
For non-living things such as scenery, it's a really open question as to why we find some things pleasing but I'm guessing it has to do with how our senses evolved to find comfort in certain scenes over others. It's really similar to how in music theory we have all these heuristics in place and we can sort of reason it out by working off some basic principles such as logarithmic perception of pitch, but other than that we don't really have any good non-subjective reason other than the fact that it seems to work and be a shared experience.
>> No. 33521 [Edit]
>>33519
If our brains were structured a bit different, polytonic music would sound better to us, but as we are now, one key at a time is what we naturally perceive as pleasant for some reason.

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33488 No. 33488 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I think video games are a malignant force in otaku culture, at least in the west. While plenty of game franchises were made in the west, many of the most seminal in "gaming culture" such as metal gear, street fighter, neir , etc are from Japan. These types of games are generally more accessible than other aspects of otaku culture.

What this leads to is tons of faggots like spoony who have some awareness of otaku media, but not the mindset needed to appreciate and enjoy most of it. Whenever games and the rest of otaku culture overlap, which inevitably happens, there ends up being a conflict where people who don't enjoy things less accessible to normalfags are exposed to it and react to with outrage or scorn. This kind of thing is plainly visible on image boards. People who only like games infest places related to otaku culture and expect everybody to obey their standards.

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>> No. 33495 [Edit]
>>33490
I'm a little confused, are you talking about 4chan?
>> No. 33497 [Edit]
>>33493
Jesus I want get my ass beaten up by Kasumi so much...
>> No. 33498 [Edit]
>>33494
I didn't say those types weren't also a problem, but they seem less influential to me. Video Games are big everywhere, unlike toonami shit, and image boards are ground zero for a lot of trends.

>>33497
Dead or alive's too realistic for my taste.
>> No. 33499 [Edit]
>>33489
This. But I guess it's time for another regularly scheduled struggle session.

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33482 No. 33482 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What are some of your favorite physical features in an anime girl? Mine are sharp teeth. They're cute and help to make a character stand out.
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33483
Peaches.
>> No. 33492 [Edit]
scrotum
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>>33482
There's so many. I like moles, eyebags, braids, braces (really uncommon), glasses, eyepatches, abs, scars and prosthesis. You could say I'm the Albert Fish of anime fetishes.

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29788 No. 29788 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I've decided to translate Jewelpet Sunshine in order to challenge myself, because my Japanese is terrible.

I'm not sure if I understood a couple parts correctly though. Can someone check this for me please? This is the OP. https://youtu.be/dWq8Kk7OG-4


Go! Go! Sunshine! Glittering!
Lucky sunshine!
The message of the magic of love connects our beating hearts.
These feelings can’t be stopped, so just accept them!
Full of energy from the moment I wake,
I call out to you but there’s no reaction.
It’s ok!
I keep my head up and stay smiling!
I’m hiding the vibrations of my heart, but it looks like they’ll burst through!
Oh yeah!
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>> No. 29789 [Edit]
>>29788
Mostly seems fine to me. The only point I'd make is with the line "恋の魔法かけたメッセージ", which you translated as "The message of the magic of love connects our beating hearts". 魔法(を)かける (as in 掛ける) is a set phrase meaning to cast magic, whereas it looks like you were reading it as 架ける, maybe? I'm not really sure where you got "connect" from. But yeah, other than that, it seems like a decent translation.

Post more on /日本/, it's lonely.

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33425 No. 33425 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
This is a theory that the particles of the universe have no lower size limit, and instead shrink relative to us into infinity, in the course of their shrinking eventually recreating every possible shape and action that is possible. Within each infinitesimally small portion of the universe exists an infinite number of increasingly smaller universes, some the same, some different, from the larger universes. Furthermore, we, as entities, only exist somewhere in this infinitely large and small chain of fractal patterns, and if we could see the universe with a bigger scope would realize that it too merely exists within the folds of larger universes. In fact, if one could shrink oneself, one would be able to travel to any point in time through the identical fractal universes that exist within the folds of reality. So too do we exist in infinite repetition in the folds of the fractal pattern, and are merely one instance of ourselves, all within this singular physical universe.
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>> No. 33450 [Edit]
anyone who thinks that they can suss out the nature of everything just by been incredibly clever is clearly mistaken and falling into the trap of thinking that modern academic science has any validity and using the conventional wisdom as presented by ye olde wise men of academia as a basis for comparison.
academics are just charlatans who make a living by putting on an act that they somehow have greater knowledge than anyone else.
humanity has been falling for this bullshit for millennia, it used to be called a religion, but now its ye olde wise men of academia who are the gatekeepers of the truth as they define it and the general public accepts it. its all a big shell game and it's purpose is to control public opinion and maintain the status quo rather than human progress. you can't play in those people's games, the cards are stacked against you, so don't waste your time trying to be ye olde wise men of academia. those people got to where they are by playing neurotypical office politics and having daddy buy them entry into harvard, they're not actually the reasonable individuals they pretended to be, they're greedy liars who attain status the sleazy way and they pretend they earned it through some admirable effort.
if those people really were as intelligent and capable as they say they are then science and technology would be advancing at a rapid pace instead of stagnating. most of academia is just people who thought they'd "look smart in a lab coat" or some other stupid bullshit
>> No. 33451 [Edit]
>>33450
If that was true, engineering wouldn't be going anywhere and nobody would consider them worth hiring. They apply what academia finds. Learning more about the world doesn't happen with one guy trying to be clever, it's an extremely lengthy, very large group effort. Science is not stagnating at all.
>> No. 33452 [Edit]
>>33443
>>33444
>The universe in not deterministic and nobody thinks it is anymore
I think it's true that bell's theorem and such essentially rule out hidden variables, and if you accept locality (e.g. take speed of light limit as fixed) then you're constrained to have nondeterminsm in some manner (whether in the Copenhagen or multi-worlds interpretation). But I believe Bell's theorem only really holds if you take as a given that you have the ability to perform independent, uncorrelated measurements. Or colloquially that you have some sort of free will.

I'm not at all qualified to make comments on this field, but it does appear that the existence of this loophole of "superdeterminism" is accepted, but for some reason it's not really brought up much. An excerpt from Bell himself:

>There is a way to escape the inference of superluminal speeds and spooky action at a distance. But it involves absolute determinism in the universe, the complete absence of free will. Suppose the world is super-deterministic, with not just inanimate nature running on behind-the-scenes clockwork, but with our behavior, including our belief that we are free to choose to do one experiment rather than another, absolutely predetermined, including the 'decision' by the experimenter to carry out one set of measurements rather than another, the difficulty disappears. There is no need for a faster-than-light signal to tell particle A what measurement has been carried out on particle B, because the universe, including particle A, already 'knows' what that measurement, and its outcome, will be.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superdeterminism
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell%27s_theorem
>> No. 33453 [Edit]
>>33450
I do agree that parts of academia are a shell game (especially soft-sciences such as psychology/economics, but also things such as medicine which is pretty much just blind trials). And it would be good if those fields had increased skepticism towards their results.

However dismissing all of academia as tomfoolery seems a bit too far-reaching since there have been demonstrable advances in fields such as physics and chemistry.

>Science and technology would be advancing at a rapid pace instead of stagnating
Science has advanced quite a bit in the last century though. It might appear to be slowing down, but that's mainly because most of the low hanging fruit is gone so any improvements from here are going to be minor. And progress usually comes in bursts because it ultimately takes time for discoveries to saturate and build on top of each other. As for technology, most of the advancements here have really come out of the private sector (Bell labs) and increasingly SV companies which may not be academia in the traditional sense but they still publish their findings in conferences and journals (albeit possibly watered down versions stripped of the corresponding implementation details).

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33274 No. 33274 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Earliest known depiction of Mahou Shoujo.
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32242 No. 32242 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Do you feel an uncanny level of connection with your computer?

I upgraded recently and it's actually made me kind of sad. I had my previous computer for nearly a decade. It feels kind of like I've abandoned a great friend. I don't feel as comfortable with this new computer and that emotion seems to go beyond just the annoyance of setting up software and copying settings over. When my tracking number said my memory would get here the next day I actually had somehing of a mental breakdown and cried. Throughout so much of my life it's been there right next to me, the one object I'm sure to use every day. The new PC is nice but I don't feel this close to it. Kind of like I'm leaving an old friend to rot in an alleyway when they did nothing wrong. I know I'll get over it, I had much the same reaction when I upgraded from my original pc. But it's been weeks now and every time I pass by the utility room it's sitting in there and I feel kind of bad about it...

Does anyone have similar experiences? People like us really live our lives on these machines. Is it really so strange to be this attached?
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>> No. 32388 [Edit]
i do too actually. I feel this deep, spiritual connection every time I physically touch my laptop in anyway.
>> No. 32958 [Edit]
I feel weirdly emotional about throwing out my office chair that I have sat at for over 5 years.
>> No. 33314 [Edit]
Computer is my data connector.
http://blog.seiha.org
>> No. 33409 [Edit]
Computer is my friend.......

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29517 No. 29517 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Do you have any recurring fantasies or daydreams?

In high school I often fantasized about talking down a school shooter, thinking up scenarios where we traded extended, edgy dialogue. Now I daydream about being a great writer, although I've barely done any creative writing.
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I dream of being a World Warrior
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I dream of sleeping
>> No. 33338 [Edit]
>>33257
I would swear I have read that post before. Sounds like magicchan or something like that.
>> No. 33407 [Edit]
I frequently fantasise about being a renown concert pianist even though I can't play piano and honestly, I think I'm musically deaf. I've noticed other people talk about a pianist's "tone" such that, they claim that they can actually identify the performer of a piece because of that pianist's signature "tone". They talk about how Horowitz was a master of manipulating "colour". Truly, I have no idea what these people are talking about. As long as the right note is being hit at the right time, it all sounds good to me. I think there's a higher level to music that has to be perceived to be grasped and I don't think I have the ability to perceive it. Even if I were to take music seriously, I really don't think, even with years of practise, I'd get very far. It's a bit depressing to think that the ceiling's been set before I've even started but I guess that's that.

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33375 No. 33375 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I was arguing with some guy about how the massive output of anime, manga and other otaku related media showed a greater acceptance of those type of hobbyist things in Japan compared to the US. He told me any Otaku are shunned in Japan and if they're found out they would even get fired. While I don't believe it's something you would brag about, I can't imagine people actually losing their job over it and being treated like second-class-citizens. Trains and planes have characters on them and Akihabara is an entire district dedicated to it. How much truth was there to what this guy was saying?
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>>33383
I don't get why someone that's supposed to be interested in another culture or parts of it makes so little effort to understand nothing.
Worse of it is how it goes forever. In 50 years there will be people arguing how whatever new buzzword ruined the "elegant" or "manly" anime of the 2060's.
>> No. 33386 [Edit]
>>33380
I'm not sure if this is better or worse than how they used to use "otaku" as a nickname for anyone who has seen even a bit of anime. Which has now been replaced by "weeb"

>>33385
I've had to explain and point out how each season we only get 1-3 Cute and moe Slice of life shows per season out of 30+, but do they listen? Of course not. Then you got those retards who somehow -still- view anime as being nothing but non nonsensical hyper violent gore fests filled with school girls being raped by tentical monsters, most of those idiots haven't seen anything past dragonballz and "robotech" but they act like they know it all.
>> No. 33387 [Edit]
>>33386
>Then you got those retards who somehow -still- view anime as being nothing but non nonsensical hyper violent gore fests filled with school girls being raped by tentical monsters

There's still people like that? It's kind of amazing if you think abut it since that kind of anime was mostly made 30 years ago, those old OVA must have made an enormous impact.
It also makes me remember when the official language academy of my country gave a definition of "manga" for the first time, just some years ago;

>comic genre of japanese origin, of simple style, with predominance of violent, erotic and fantastic stories.
>> No. 33388 [Edit]
>>33383
I've seen this image several times, but it only just hit me that he called Omoide Poroporo an "old classic". It would have been three years old at time of writing.

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29240 No. 29240 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What are your thoughts on the common portrayal in Japanese media of life essentially being limited to one's time in school?
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>> No. 33371 [Edit]
That's how it is.

When you start your working life, you are considered an adult. That means no more fun allowed, just escapism from the gray reality or daily sacrifice for your offspring and elders.

Especially in Japan there is literally nothing else than work. I knew a young guy, who worked 12 hours and more a day, commutes 2 more hours and has essentially 4 hours for household, hygiene and hobbies, which however often are taken by social eating and drinking with his colleagues after work.

No wonder people die early with this lifestyle.
>> No. 33373 [Edit]
>>33371
It's amazing how being like that they still have such an enormous cultural industry full of enormous franchises and 100+ hours videogames.
I guess it's because big part of the public is the NEET or the arubaito worker and other variants, since regular people wouldn't have time to spend on that.
>> No. 33374 [Edit]
>>33373
How regular is the Salaryman life really though? Sure there are many of them but Japan still has to have cooks, waiters, mechanics, tradesmen, taxi drivers and the like, I don't think even half the Japanese work force would be Salarymen.
>> No. 33376 [Edit]
>>33374
For what I studied some years ago, the salaryman is a thing from the past. There's still some but younger generations don't like that kind of life, also companies started firing people and the idea of working all your life in the same place is less common every year. I don't know what's worse, actually.

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