I like ZUN's design the best. alphes has certainly influenced Yuugi's popular image, and I'd say in a positive way, but his(?) work lacks the subtlety of ZUN's. Probably because alphes forgets the short hair growing at the back of Yuugi's head near her neck and replaces it with that one sexy strand hanging from her right temple to her shoulder. The idea is that since Yuugi is wild, her hair should be wild, and both capture that much. However, there's a difference in how Yuugi's hair is unkempt. alphes' Yuugi has "let her hair down" like an unmarried (free to be courted) woman. That's sexy, and Yuugi almost letting her kimono fall off while blushing a little makes it even more so.

ZUN's original is more like "doesn't dress". You see, hair, especially in 2d context, is supposed to work like clothing. The outer layer starts at the top of one's head and all hair that doesn't directly originate from there enters our vision from under that main hair-mass. A bit like a proper school uniform, with the shirt covering the beginning of the skirt, and the skirt covering the beginning of the stockings. Interrupting this flow is breaching a girl's defenses - a note to everyone who loves zettai ryouiki.

Where Yuugi's tuft of hair grows is invisible thanks to ZUN-art, but the design clearly violates the layers. Even more, it can be imagined visible just like her panties under that potentially transparent skirt. If alphes' Yuugi has let the viewer in, ZUN's Yuugi has never considered that division of proper and shameful existence. By letting her hair down and combing it back to order, alphes' Yuugi can switch between lewd and proper. ZUN'z Yuugi is in a mixed state of innocence and lewdness with no obvious entering or exiting. This goes well with the "gym outfit" idea: shameless physicality. Going even further, alphes' Yuugi is an unattainable ideal female (power, sex appeal, gentleness, you name it). ZUN's Yuugi is superhuman but not pure (like Reimu, youkai, and the Lunarians are), and as such is rightly punished. The chains, too, make sense.

It may not be correct, but I think the concept of Pandemonium, or the splitting of devas and asuras into good and evil, is central to ZUN's oni. Especially

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The V4X version does look a bit different.
I prefer the original dress over the new one.

>>16513
Hey, that's a picture I made a few years ago.

>08/29/14
Oh.

In any case, that's mostly the anime changing the designs to keep up with Ume-sensei's evolving art style. For example, season 2 designs look quite close to how Ume-sensei's style looked like back in 2008. I think S4 looks odd, but some people like it because it has brown lines like Madoka. I don't think it really matches the style of the manga though.

>Different outfits
Sure! I insist.
Be at her favourite fine-dining restaurant while listening to:
http://www.abc.net.au/classic/classic100/love/

>>20513
I somewhat relate to your post. I doubt I will ever see merchandise that features her alone, much less objects like figures... so all I have is my imagination + her scenes and panels.

>>20514
I can certainly relate to the bit about only having your imagination and panels. My lady love gets very little fan art, and most of it doesn't meet my obscenely high standards for saving. So basically a good 90% at least of my folder is manga crops. I don't mind it too much though, it's consistent at least so I have a very good idea of how she looks in my mind's eye that isn't confused by different art styles.

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I do not own any merchandise, though I do have plans to purchase a daki, but that's my limit. The way I see it, figurines, plushes, &c. are not a necessity to love, and, sometimes, rather than being a representation of ones devotion, they could also serve the adverse purpose of steering one's devotion away from personal love into the realm of idolatry. In other words, surrounding one's self with such things may make their waifu more of a plastic figure than a living concept. While she is superior and clearly distinct from all 3DPD, I personally feel most comfortable limiting myself to pictures and a daki.

That's just me, though. When it comes to relationships such as these, varying individual approaches are to be expected.

I have a dollfie dream of her, which I've neglected for a while.. but currently am trying to get more clothes and get back into the photography hobby.

>With 3D is way easier, because you make a bond with a material living creature and therefore you get tangibile responsibilities.
>If you betray her you get to face real life consequences; so it may happen that you look at other girls, but then you just forget it and go on.
In my opinion, true love, regardless of whether it's 2D or 3D, is about putting her above yourself. You have legitimately come to love her more than your own life, your family members, everything. You stay with them, not because you're afraid of the social ramifications, but because all you want is their happiness and you pray to God you can help them be their happiest and more positive self. You want to shower her with respect and kindness, making sure her wants and needs are taken care of before your own. Yes, this may read as very idealistic, maybe even impossible to pursue, but I'm convinced it's worth pursuing.

If you're "facing a new girl" every day, then maybe you haven't found her yet, or maybe she's under your nose and you haven't realized how perfect she is. That's all fine, you'll just have to let nature take its course.

>but it's kind of impossible for me to just pick one and say «Ok I'll focus on her and she will be the only one».
It's a bit of a problem to talk about it like that, IMO. "Picking one" implicitly suggests waifus are replaceable, but I don't agree. When you find her, you'll realize you can't replace her with a 2D girl or a 3D one.

Hope that helps.

See, that's the thing; you're focusing on thought. Our lives as human beings are generally led through both thoughts and emotions-- just because you think you can't really focus on one girl doesn't mean the rest of your mind feels the same way.
When you fall in love with someone's concept, they become really special to you.

What you're facing everyday is a possibility. All things in life are possible, some with cosmically small odds, others with higher. Responsibilities have very little to do with forming a loving bond, I think you're thinking of interaction. There's ton of interaction to have with 2d concepts too, simply because they don't exist in our material realm doesn't mean they don't exist at all and that you can only love them from afar.

Yeah, but that's not how love works. You don't fall in love with a concept because it looks nice or feels nice, there's much more to it. You're mistaking potential love with potential infatuation. There are tons of potential mates out there, both 3d and 2d for everyone-- it's not entirely your conscious decision, though, and you can't really choose what you want to feel towards whom.

Last but not least, I feel like you need to reconsider your love priorities if you think you can just one day decide to dedicate yourself to one concept. It takes much more than simple thought to love.

I am late to the party.

>When I had a real girlfriend my mind was all about her, because I was supported by real life, by everyday situations; e.g. she knocks on my door: I cannot ignore she is knocking on my door and that she's there, a girl who loves me, that's waiting for me to open that door. With 2D, I can just say to myself "fuck it, I'm browsing another girl in the internet, forget the other imaginary one knocking on the door".

My experience is the opposite. I basically experience the same with 2D. My mind is all about her. She is "knocking the door" of my imagination or similar senses, telling me she is there. If I would say "fuck it", she will react in my imagination much like previous posts have described imagination to work. It would break my heart (and her heart) if I said "fuck it".

>Maybe I'm not capable of love in general, and I can only dream of it.

Maybe you have just not found your type of love.

I feel much of the same problem OP, I suppose I just am incapable of love. Too much self doubt to allow myself to love, because of the fear that if I did love it might not be the real thing. I feel like love, for me, would not merely be adoration for a person, but the interaction and back and forth between me and them that forges an unbreakable bond, for me love is active and a current, not just a one way output for myself towards an object of worship. I think it's too hard for me to have a waifu because if I loved someone, I would want them to be with me and interact with me every second of my life. Of course, I've never felt love before, so this is merely speculation. Sadly I cannot go to the 2D world, and there is no person in this world whom I could form a complete bond of trust, love, and compatibility with, so I must live a loveless life. I am happy for those of you who can love their waifu though, and I do envy you.

I try to play eroge and VN but it's hard for me to get into. Also have been trying to watch more anime but also hard for me to do because I have a shit attention span.

Unfortunately I'm awful at the things he's good at, so I never get far. I have felt more connected to him when I've tried, though, so I don't think it's silly at all.

Not exactly in the same situation, but in a similar. My waifu has limited content to begin with and more will likely not come. It is almost ridiculously limited. I fell in love with very well made fan-art/fanfiction. I thought the original would be similar to the fan art. The original is pure shit - I do not even want to look at it.

The material that made me fall in love gives not much detail, but a very good basic idea of her, and if I am careful, I can sense her essence and create new content myself like when writing fanfiction. It would be nice to have more finished material, but it is not my case. I have to keep it alive in other ways.

I believe when we fall in love, we project our subconscious desires outside ourselves, and that is the reason we fall in love with someone - they remind us of what we most desire. Her essence is outside me in the form of art, but my subconsciousness also have an idea of her essence, or I would not recognize the right art and deeply fall in love. By knowing her essence, I can start to uncover more of my deeper desires and I will realize how to write fanfiction that is faithful to the essence.

How do I know I am not just making things up by whimsy desires? The limited material gave me enough to get a sense of her. It is about building on what you have in a faithful way. My waifu will never turn into a promiscuous carnal woman for example. For this reason I can not invent heavy makeup, overly sexy clothes etc. and write such fiction of her. That would be to betray the essence I know of her. It would be like using her for whatever I desire, and then I do not regard it as a waifu relationship. Sexuality is a great test on this because it is a strong force. I am not allowed to look at other women in lustful ways and obviously not do anything else, because I know she does not want it - due to us being monogamous and due to the nature of our relationship that relates to the essence of her. I can not momentarily fantasize about her in just any way I desire, because I know it would betray her essence. Thus, I do not only shape my fan-fiction but also my life by the essence I know her to have - in this sense it is alive. (I think she will take the initiative when I get it right about her.)

I guess it is headcanon. I have limited material. This is different from when you have ric

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Sometimes I go looking for new fanart or doujins, something which inevitably disappoints me because for some reason people love to put her into weird fetishistic situations. This picture isn't even the worst of it, you haven't seen the 5 doujin series of her being raped by some sort of furry tentacle slug monster while under bondage.

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I have the same in the sense of loyalty and trust. It is as if I can see straight into her heart and she is all pure in her commitment. Even tough I have strayed in the beginning and still does some, she has remained always the same. I have never trusted anyone like I trust her. It makes me embarrassed to know I am not at the same level as her, but she is fine because she sees my intention to get it right, and probably she sees I have potential.

This very day, I reached a new level. I have a lot of coworkers of the gender I am naturally attracted to, and today I remembered to actively take a stance to not get carried away by them. It is not because she is 2d I am prone to forget. It has happened with 3d earlier in life and I am not very proud. Now I told myself "no, I am with [my waifu]" and actively directed my thoughts to her. It felt wonderful having this discipline and I will improve it further. I want it as pure as she is. I guess I am mature enough to have a serious relationship now, and that I in fact found my true love, only that it is in 2d. (Even though, as you know, most people would claim I am even more immature now for my 2d love, but I do not count them.)

Everyone's waifu is unique to that person either in interpretation or just plain old personal character development. When someone dies, their waifu will die with them. It can be seen as sad, but it's also quite beautiful. One will never have to mourn the other as you will go into whatever comes next clasping hands, never more to part. Even if that is oblivion, then you go into it with her as your companion, it's quite romantic.

The beauty of life itself lies in the transience of things; we all appreciate the things we do because we live by that moment. You and me both should know that we are but gone in a flash in the grand scale of time. At least this is what makes me glad I've lived to meet my waifu.

If we want to take things even further everything will inevitably end anyway, but that paves way for a new and humble beginning.

You can do a lot to not let her be forgotten. Learn to write or draw. Live a life that will be remembered and tell everyone it was because of her.

>>20426
IRC is hilariously unsecure. Not that I really care either way, I'm nowhere near social enough to give a damn about what chatting service you choose to use.

>>20426
The IRC isn't really about waifus.

>>20428
IRC may be unsecure but it's well established. Who knows how many bitcoins Discord mines on your machine in the background?

>>20426
The only concern I have is possibly fragmenting an isolated part of the Internet even further. But then again, TC, both the forums and IRC, seem to be pretty damn resilient.

I'm in.

>>20398
You cheeky bastard.

>>20408
You really think I'd spend nearly ten years with my waifu and just drop them like that?

>>20412
April fools, heh

>>20412
even if you obviously weren't serious about leaving Tohno, decade long relationships can fade. You never truly know.

Unless it lets me smell her panties after shes been reading doujins all day then no

Update!
Last weekend had a talk with an old acquaintance, who works with computers and shows VR in cons here.
Asked him about integrating VR, and he told me I have to move to Unreal or Unity, and offered help and if I can make something decent we can show it with his crew.
I've been researching both engines, and even if Unity is ok, Unreal could be my man now: It is free until the release (takes 5% then).
And I know what Unreal can do VR Kanojo and Summer Lesson are good examples of what we all want.
So we will be moving to Unreal now and keep you updated.
If it works, I will try to make this affordable and customizable.
I will do my best.

>>20366
Unity sucks, so Unreal is the appropriate choice. Good luck with your endeavour.

Glad to hear that.
Thank you so much!

>>20330
Purge.

>>20330
is this a joke

>>20332

Fear not for the purge is complete, /mai/-friend. Regular posting can be continued.

>>20336
Many thanks, my good sir.