I love Arcueid Brunestud!

Manaka Komaki

Kanbe Kotori is my waifu

Katawa Shoujo: Lilly
Oreimo VN: Ayase
Oregairu VN: Shizuka


Do VNs with strong but not overarching romantic aspects like Fate Stay/Night count as dating sims? Probably not, but I felt like asking

>>22069
>cheap VNs made to advertise LNs
Can you enlighten me on literally why?

>>22070
Why not? Cheap isn't always bad

He literally learn to draw just because of her!

>>22067
Actually she is more of daughterfu to him but he still clearly loves her deeply

>>21795
rei

>>21795
Marisa is a damned drunk!
She stole this whole can of Asahi from our fridge and she plans on drinking it all?!

>>21820
Yare yare Marisa-chan...
It can't be helped
(－‸ლ)

hard to say but it autism
>>21973
this

I think sometimes it's a natural reaction to want to take a character who is subjected to horrible things and shield them from it. If your waifu suffers in canon then of course you'll want to provide her something happier, and seeing other people subject her to more perceived suffering would upset that sensibility.

Personally I used to be very sensitive to people making light of my waifu's trauma and using themes of abuse around her. When people lewded her they would always make her a victim, and I believe that's not just hurtful to her but wilfully ignoring who she is and her capacity to fend for herself and protect her dignity. It's not wrong to take issue with it if you think it goes against her interests. It is however unhealthy to live in fear of it and let it rile you up. As much as you don't want your wife to be unhappy, she would not want her partner to exhaust themselves with negative emotions, especially when something is almost inevitable. Be kind to yourself and her by limiting your exposure to it.

Also, it should be said that people who make porn of more obscure characters are sometimes just there to score points as the only/first one to do it. Porn is often made without affection for the character and can be just weird fetish material that doesn't care about personality. Generic happy slut is not most people's waifu, but is usually how porn goes because it's hard to fully characterise behaviours in one climax image. It's reductive and can easily miss the mark. Things that get your waifu wrong will always be frustrating in one way or another.

>>21984
yeah this make sense

Junko Enoshima is hot and I like her personality, tho I dont care for pornography that much since I cant control it.

like i remember going to pixiv and just browsing it for like an hour and came a across a picture of her with 18 plus no it was not porn most of it was just fan art of the manga where she is from however there was porn most of it was in gay it was basically a album with some NSFW sprinkled i actually thought it was going and my heart got heavy or well skipped a beat i was having an internal debate with myself if i should check the album because i was having big intrusive thoughts that it going tons of rape porn of her i am glad i was wrong i am not sure why i even checked it was because i was imagitive far worse thing in that album that was actually in so i need to reasure myself no matter what thankufful there was no porn image of her but yeah if this ever happens again i do hope it repeat but there is chance that it wont and that make scared i really dont like how pixiv NSFW censor remove all the gorey images and tags as NSFW 

Even after deleting my entire folder of her with the obscure images I found from various Japanese sites that contained fan art of her as well as pixiv and obscure sides of Twitter, I still feel somehow attached to her even after all this.

The other thing is, does anyone feel depressed after one of the fanarts of your waifu gets deleted forever and you didn't save the image? Despite being in a mixed place between me and her, it makes me sad. I'm sure people will always make fan art, but it still hurts. It may be just fan art, but it means a lot to me.

it's an irrational thought, mostly because people can't control who they fall in love with, but I'm a bit jealous of people who have waifus from franchises that receive a lot of attention from the staff. I want more spinoffs with her! I want to see her even more in canon!
I'm also kind of jealous of those who fall in love with Touhou or Vocaloid girls. You'll always get to look at her being beautiful, I either have to make my own artwork or commission it. It's worthwhile, but sometimes it makes me sad when I can't dedicate all my time to her.

>>22044
Perhaps I am just contrarian, but I really enjoy that the woman I love gets no attention. In a sense, the image I have seared into my heart stays as authentic to itself as possible, whereas if there's extra stuff tacked on for her - merch, crossovers, or the most dangerous of all, fanart - then my dreams get intermingled with a million other images that don't feel truthful to what I believe to be her true self.

>>22044
As someone with a higly popular waifu, you really don't anon (at least I hope you dont), to begin with, as >>22045 said we are constantly bombarded by things that might want to change who she is which isn't all that fun, and it personally kept me a bit away from her till I actually decided to start our relationship.
Then we have the fact other shmuck's on the internet will be fawning over her and might even dare to larp as waifuists, at least some of us can deal with it on a healthy way but not everyone can and shit can get real for some (straight up bullying others etc), doesn't help that many waifuists have lacking self steem so it can be more of a curse than a blessing.
As for one more reason, the creators might potentially lead her onto a direction that's not good, this tends to happen if for some reason she gets a sequel, sometimes they will just fumble completely with who she is or change her in a way that makes no sense, or create a romantic interest and a long etc of things that could be hard to deal with.

Obviously if these things affect you or not depends on you and your personality but it ain't easy for everyone, they sure didn't/won't stop me from loving my beloved wife but it has done for some in the past.

>>22049
Yeah I had rethought that statement after >>22045 replied and came to the same conclusion. Sometimes I appreciate the changes in canon and othertimes I'm like, "did they really need to?" and it leaves a sour taste.
I forgot about waifu larpers too. The bright side at least is that larpers come and go in waves after [insert series she's from here] stops being popular to like (or pretend to like), but canon is canon forever until otherwise stated.

What >>22047 said.
Outside of that all I can say is you sound kinda depressed if even just getting out of bed is exhausting, or maybe you are simply lacking some exercise and/or a good diet, regardless if I was you I wouldn't force myself, at most try to commit at least 20 mins per day to playing the VN, other reason why playing the VN might feel exhausting would be due to your love for her, emotions can exhaust us and since you seem to be still in the honeymoon period then the emotions can be quite strong while playing.

In the end remember to reach your own conclusion, I'm just throwing potential answers or things to ponder about.

This seems more like a /so/ issue than a strictly waifu related one. Some part of this resonates with me
> because I want it to be joyful every time I see her. I'm convinced that my love is genuine and I'm happy to see her every time, yet whenever I see my earliest save, it saddens me to see it's already half a year and that I've not managed to finally finish it
That you want the moments you spend with your favorite character to be joyful ones and so you only try to engage in the content when you think you're in the right mood to appreciate it. Which ends up meaning you never quite finish it, as given that we are on TC such joyful moments probably are not found in abundance.

As others mentioned that root feeling of "why don't I feel in the right mood" is really difficult to answer, some would say it's the core issue of the human condition itself. Definitely do not force it, you might feel even worse and start overthinking "am I supposed to be enjoying this" or even questioning your prior love. The VN and her character are not going anywhere, they will be patiently waiting for you until you feel ready to engage it. So the question becomes what steps are you taking to try to make such opportunities more available. It might be as simple as getting more sleep, taking walks, and eating healthier. It might be as complex as needing to gain emotional awareness of yourself and "sort out your internal issues". If you get to a point where you're comfortable engaging in other content but still hesitate to re-engage with the VN, then it might be a simple one of expectations and mindset; you've been away from the content so long that you worry the rest of it might not live up to your expectations.

Hopefully something helps, I guess the important part would be to make some change, since if it hasn't gotten better in a year then I don't think being stuck in the same cycle would help. Even doing nothing (in the sense of just sitting there until you get comfortable with idleness) is probably better than being stuck in the same cycle.

>>22052
this is the best answer
>>22046
I am not sure, but maybe you are deeply afraid of seeing something terrible in the VN happening to her and ruining it for you.After all, you didn't finish it, and you don't know how it ends.

Also, what kind of VN is it? You don't need to mention her name or VN itself, but what genre is VN? urban fantasy/sci-fi/fantasy

>>22052
>you've been away from the content so long that you worry the rest of it might not live up to your expectations.
While first reading this (I read the thread over and over again, but didn't bother replying yet), I completely overread this sentence, but it might be true and the more I think about it the truer it seems. I have spoiled the endings for me already, so I know roughly what happens, but just as it were the little things that made me like her, it might be the little things, that could cause me to dislike her. I think you might have a point there. Of course this is not the entire problem, only part of it, as I have difficulties with other media too, however it's still different with those.

>>22058
She is from a fantasy VN.

>>22043
>It's the whole reason why people who think "nofap" will cure their mind just end up spinning in circles (relapsing). They don't actually address the root cause. If you feel shame, guilt, and regret after an action, you have to properly dwell on that and "feel it out." Reflect and really internalize what drives you to do the action, understand why it's incompatible with the values you want to uphold on an emotional level.
Seems like someone really gets it, I had to do this for all pornography in general, thankfully it's been around 2 years since then and I've stayed celibate for my wife easily (I'll do so for my whole life, it's only fair), as you said one can (and should) reach a point where even just thinking about it for a second makes you feel utter disgust, once you reach that the rest of the road is easy.
>[And of course if it wasn't clear, above is in fact my personal experience trying to get away from ryona content, and I don't really know if I can emerge out the other end.]
Oh, kek, this explains why you get it so much, this is the kind of thing you have to experience personally to really understand, no amount of hearing about it or being told will make up for the experience.

>>22050
>this is the kind of thing you have to experience personally to really understand
There is a trope in many "enlightenment" stories that ego-death happens automatically once there is some cataclysmic event that shatters the internal narrative of identity and thought (some sort of "dark night of the soul").

While this is obviously not really the same thing, I think this is similar in that only once you gain the awareness of how deep you've fallen does one properly take the time to reflect and reshape that world view. It's why most people laugh at the concept of nofap: (Although it certainly doesn't help that advocates conflate the concept of porn, masturbation, and semen retention) it either takes great self-awareness to realize what state of mind you have when you engage in content (e.g. when you masturbate to porn, is it with a lustful gaze or with a loving one? Are you perversely sexualizing that which you should cherish?), or the awareness will hit you like a brick wall when you reach a point at which the disparity between your ideals and actions is undeniable.

>>22051
The awareness really hits many like a brick, sadly the nofap community is deeply flawed (as you seem to understand, due to the combining of ideas and even pseudo-science) so the idea of nofap itself gets sullied by their behavior, while this might not be all that proper in the thread I hope more people eventually look inward when it comes to porn, how they engage it, what they consume etc, maybe its just personal experience but I’ve seen enough people quietly struggling with it both in and out of waifuism, its quite the conundrum.

>will want to see me live to experience more of me everyday and fill my heart with incomparable joy so I never go away.
Isn't that part of the appeal of the yandere archetype? Someone who's so faithful to you that you can physically feel without a shadow of a doubt they'd never leave you. I suppose as you mentioned someone who is "rescued" would fit a similar niche, that they're so thankful and clingy for validation that they wouldn't even imagine being with anyone else.

I can definitely see the appeal if you yourself have something akin to abandonment anxiety. While they might be a character you can empathize with though, I don't think a character would these issues would make a good partner for someone who also has similar issues. I'm finding it hard to articulate precisely why, but I suppose the emotional dynamics wouldn't work: a person with such anxiety wouldn't be able to properly provide rich affection, but they require plenty of it.

OP, please learn to condense whatever you want to say into a single post. This is not a chatroom.

>>22024
sorry...

I feel like I don't deserve her.

I feel like I ruined her.

especially because I uploaded some of her art on Danbooru two 

just two images It was not porn but an outfit of rage, and then I realized I made a huge mistake. Now these 2 images, while nothing big, will be used to generate AI art of her. It only thankfully just 2, but it hurts. I just feel like I ruined her reputation.

>>22055
of course there is way fix all of this it very dangerous but she is too perfect she has everything i have ever desired i am willing to take the risk

Striking up a conversation would probably be pretty awkward, I'd find something to break the ice and keep things going. I'd probably have to carry most of the conversation myself. Far as I know she might actually find it interesting to talk to a foreigner, so I might be able to use that to help things along until hopefully the ball gets rolling and things go more smoothly.

Ideally, I think I'd be very forward about it. I could probably talk about gathering faith. It's something I can relate to in some way.
Realistically I wouldn't be able to muster words. No comprehensible ones anyhow.

Post edited on 12th Dec 2022, 7:56am

Try to talk about our mutual interests. Music and bands I guess. Not spilling spaghetti would be hard.

Perhaps, what I would do, would be something along the lines of saying "Hey, I've been really enjoying being around you lately. Would you like to come to my place and hang out with me, maybe?" I think it also depends whether we were to meet each other in this world or in her world, but it would be probably a similar procedure. I think being as straight up as possible, is something she would appreciate and probably something that works better in the long run.

I had this rather funny thought, that if we were to meet in this world and she would come around to visit me, she would see a room full of figs, pillows and other items with her on it.