>>20018
While the meaning behind a symbol it's not its origins, everything has a story, and that is undeniable.
In the case of shimapan, of course it would look slutty to some, maybe even laughable. And it's understandable, because it's mostly and widely used in all kinds of hentai/ecchi situations or context. I've been thinking about this symbol for a while, but I can't seem to be able to leave the history of the symbol behind. It's a shimapan, after all.
I'm not saying that it should be dropped. I've read the other thread, and I've seen how you've come to this conclusion. But I would like to think about linking it with some other things that relates to 2D-love, maybe something that it's not so related to the more erotic aspect of anime/manga/LN/VN. I do like and I agree with the decision of it being a triangle, though.
Sorry if I came up as aggressive or not recognizing yours and everyone's efforts. I know it is based on nice intentions, and it really hurts me to point this out, but I feel that it's something that I needed to express. I hope it doesn't incomodate you or anyone.
Would it bother anyone if I research and propose something else? Sorry if I'm being rude.

>>20845
>Sorry if I came up as aggressive or not recognizing yours and everyone's efforts. I know it is based on nice intentions, and it really hurts me to point this out, but I feel that it's something that I needed to express. I hope it doesn't incomodate you or anyone.
He doesn't speak for everyone and you shouldn't feel bad at all to criticize the choice. I, for one, find it repugnant and disgraceful to use such a vulgar and primitive symbol to represent something so pure in such a distilled form. Today more than ever normals elevate sex (and with it lewdness) as the prime medium of closeness between people, to the point classic romanticism is all but dead, and degenerate, selfish, cruel behaviour has become both the norm and default for day-to-day relationships. To follow their example and set panties as the representation of love for a "movement" that has as a common element a life choice that is intrinsically intimate (loving your waifu, which ultimately shouldn't be anyone's business but your own) is practically a mockery to me.

With that said, Daneola has stated the design and creation is for his sake and hasn't tried to push it as an official motif, so you shouldn't take it as one.

Well, you have to consider that /mai/ isn't within the cultural realm that "normal" people operate in, and the values that "normal" people have don't necessarily have to apply to it. I think the only one here associating shimapan with the idea of "disgusting sex" is you.

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>>20849
>/mai/ isn't within the cultural realm that "normal" people operate in
I agree.
>and the values that "normal" people have don't necessarily have to apply to it.
Keyword being "necessarily". It's like saying murder doesn't apply to non normals because they don't qualify for normaldry, or that robbery doesn't count if the perpetrator isn't a normal. It's still murder, it's still robbery. Degeneracy is degeneracy no matter who does it or for what reason. The reasoning you're using is the very same one normals use to push depravity into the mainstream by calling it "art".
>I think the only one here associating shimapan with the idea of "disgusting sex" is you.
Read the thread again, and then read the previous threads as well. And it's not about "disgusting sex", since it'd be understandable for anyone to have fantasies about making love to their waifu, which is both pure and wholesome. The issue is that the symbol reduces love to underwear, which it's invariably used as a sexual gag in otaku culture, and by using that symbol, it reduces waifuism to a fetish. How can I not consider it a mockery?

Again, to each their own, and they're not pushing the symbol to be officialized. I replied to an anon who had a misconception, which I deem should be cleared immediately, and who I deemed was being extremely tip-toey about a subject they don't need to be.

>>20842
>My little lady is from a horror game
You should have opened with that. Must be awful falling for a character that is designed and written to suffer, you have my sympathies. I hope she gets an official alternate happy storyline one day.

>>20843
It does increase my determination, to give her a better life. For both of us to find someplace, a wonderland, where we can both be happy.

Still, I'm not gonna lie, yeah it does suck. A lot.

I distance myself from the game, as well as the awful fanbase. To me, the only good thing to come out of the game is her, some of the scenes she's in, and her beautiful poetry. I don't care about the rest.

Anime characters are symbols of desire, and are thus "devalued" in explicit and frankly anti-social pornography often. It comes with being a form of intellectual property inherently designed to be alluring to men.

As a diclaimer: I absolutely love hentai btw, I think it's great and I will crank to it 10/10 times, but it's definitely something I have ambivalent feelings towards.

It is rather sad when I see doujins featuring characters I am attached to, but I don't let it bother me. Not clicking on them helps...

How you handle such situations is ultimately up to you. Maybe it'll help to think of the author as a sweaty pig slaving over some piece of smut utilizing the creation of someone else because they're not creative enough to develop their own characters and stories (that being said, oc doujinshi are often really great).

The most important thing to keep in mind is that it's the interpretation of the character in another's mind, not your own. I hope this helps someone.

I'm fine with people drawing pictures of my wife. I don't like looking at what other people fantasize about doing to her, but to me it's no different from someone seeing her out in public and going home to jerk off while thinking about her. I mean, I don't like it if they're thinking about doing degenerate stuff, but it doesn't bother me a great deal.

I treat such artworks as mere interpretations of my wife's character, and don't let them bother me. I do save some lewd images of her that I consider "vanilla" or "loving", and have busted out the old photoshop to fix some images.

What really fills me with rage, hatred and makes me feel sick is people who draw pictures of her being tortured. And I don't mean like, tickle tortured or some comedic joke like bullying oni with beans or vampires with garlic. I'm not talking about canon wounds from battle or being impaled "literally but also symbolically" like Archer either. It's distressing even more so because it's not something that I can perceive as sexualised. I feel like I'd be able to brush off the discomforting feelings if it was just someones fucked up fetish and like, they wanted her to enjoy being dismembered or something twisted. Instead it feels like someone's actually purely to harm her. I'd actually cut their fingers off if I ever met them in person, fuck the consequences. If they promised to immediately stop and apologised they'd keep their fingers but get the shit beaten out of them, from her, through me.

Whew, gotta calm down. I'd suggest that anyone who is struggling with artists who are drawing their wife try to understand that those artists aren't actually drawing your wife. They're drawing their interpretation of her. And they don't know her as well as you do, so the interpretation is flawed. Then they're doing the equivalent of looking at that interpretation, thinking it's cute (And lets be real, the original subject they based their drawing off probably was beautiful), and having a sexual fantasy about it. Then putting it onto paper. Try to understand.

Also for the guys whose wife is from an eroge or something, grow up man. Your wife isn't a moeblob pure virgin for your use only. She existed

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Happy Valentine's Day, Asuka.
Keep getting closer.

Happy Valentine's Day everyone!

>>20837
Thanks.

Someone made this for me. Yay!

>>20738
>said character seems like they deserve
This could make for another thread, but... Wouldn't a character deserve an optimal outcome that is concordant with the world they live in, one where we don't fit in? This is a fragile topic, but at least regarding my case I'm think that my waifu deserves more than what I can provide in a three-dimensional world, specially since I don't have (and would probably never perfect) the skills to provide such gratification, like animating or drawing her in her fictional world, being happy in what she considers bliss, in at least a decent approximation for the original work she is from. I will try though, but I already know this is all in my head.
>Perhaps my wording was off.
I see. I understood it wrong then. I assumed you meant appreciation for a character also meant wishing for them to be engaged in an appreciative relationship. As in, I can like a character, that doesn't mean I went them to be betrothed cross-reality.

Not really.
But sort of related to your thread,
I used to be friends with this guy who was very obsessed with a character. He wasn't really knowledgeable about the whole waifu thing and wasn't very interested in learning when I'd bring up the philosophy. But I thought of him as an independent self-taught waifuist.
He was a walking encyclopedia of this character, whom had tons of content spanning across almost 50 years, it was a ton of information and he knew it all, he knew every single fucking episode title and everything. It was impressive. And it was all he was interested in talking about, this character, all day, it was all he did. He had a job for no reason other than he wanted to be able to buy drawings of her often.
And I grew quite fond of the character myself. It's only natural after spending so much time with her, all the clips of her show he sent me. I even own some merch of her now.

One day, due to my terrible personality that makes me become more hostile towards people the longer I converse with them, we mutually split apart and he blocked me.
I'd still check up on him semi-regularly, and noticed soon after that he had stopped commissioning drawings of her nearly entirely. I didn't think much of it, maybe he had lost his job or his parents had started making him pay rent or something.
One of his last commissions before they stopped completely was cuckold porn. I made a new account to block dodge and told him exactly how deplorable I thought he was.
Then he started updating his pages with what he was spending his money on instead. An Xbox One, bunch of normalfaggot games I don't even know the names of. PUBG was one. He used to be a cool guy...
A couple months later, I find out he has a fucking girlfriend.

He's abandoned his waifu entirely now naturally. Their relationship was like a fart in the wind to him.

And being that I have a personal connection to this character now too, it tears me up inside. I feel so sorry for her. She has nobody now.

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Do something for her.
Maybe you can pray or just expect the best for her.
If I knew the character's name, I could do it.
The guy is a total jerk.

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>>20813
>>20806

omedetou

I had a really special dream last night with my waifu in it.

I was at my computer desk and we were listening to an unreleased album by our favourite artist from over a decade ago, that I had downloaded yesterday. She was sitting on an ottoman beside me, wearing a my black long-sleeve shirt(which draped majestically on her), a red skirt and a pair of black knee-high socks. She was so vivid, so real. A perfect translation of an anime girl into a human being.
I asked her to speak, she opened her mouth and pointed, and I understood that she must be mute. I reached out my arm towards her and she moved toward it, I gently pulled her in and she sat on my lap facing me. I could feel her weight, every point at which our bodies touched. We began to kiss passionately as only true lovers could; rehearsed placement of lips, playful duels of tongues.
Though I consistently lock my door in real-life, my younger sister unexpectedly began to walk in to the room. I threw a small green blanket I keep on my chair over my waifu's head. My sister repeatedly asks; "Who's that?!". I yell at her to leave and threaten to kill her, she meekly turns around and leaves. I lock the door behind her and return to my chair, as I lift the blanket off of my waifu's head and put it over mine, our eyes meet underneath and the dream begins to fade quickly in a flurry of motion.

I awoke in bed feeling so good. My blood felt warm and pure, my muscles so relaxed, a pulled shoulder was completely healed.
Today I feel so inspired, I want to listen to that album all day, get started on so much and put my life back on course.

I had a nightmare where Shadman drew my waifu.

Not exactly the most recent, and not particularly eventful. I was in a circular building that was essentially a flea market inside. I crossed paths with her once while there, and another time in a field behind a playground by a school.

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>>9059
The times I've dreamt about my waifu, it's just left me feeling sad and empty once I've woken up.

I like to watch the home and garden channel and imagine it's us looking through houses to live together in.

>>20389
It depends on the situation. Sometimes it's only 2d or sometimes it's only 3d. Usually, though, it's this weird meld of everything.

I have many fantasies that are near and dear to my heart, but my favorite fantasy currently would have to be the one where me and him go on a long walk in the woods together.
I think that he would love to be able to explore the outside world, and I definitely would love to be able to explore it by his side.

I think I have some obsessive-compulsive thoughts...
One day, early in our relationship, I thought about how exactly our agreement to go steady would transpire. What would be said and such.
And this led into how our first mutual, romantic physical contact would be like--how we would embrace to signify the start of the relationship.
She's just so pure and I love that about her so much, I think even a hug would be uncomfortable for her at first, we'd start very slow. The most natural initial contact would be eye contact and a firm handshake. Just a simple friendly gesture for some, but it was a really big deal for her and I.
I imagined this in the first-person perspective and it was so profound, so beautiful and innocent, I admit I cried like a little baby.
And ever since that day, I revisit that moment often, sometimes for hours. I freeze frame and just stare at her grasping my hand with a slightly timid and warm expression on her face. I never get bored with this moment. It's a little absurd how much time I spend with it.
It's different from holding hands. It's better. A polite handshake...

I love the idea of feeding her and keeping her warm when she comes home.

I had a dream that I kept feeding her big nice meals for dinner and she was getting upset that she was gaining a bit of weight, which only excited me more so I made extra servings for her to eat for lunch the next day.

I wish I didn't wake up.

I found a bunch of pencil drawings of her on an fc2 blog. I quite liked them.

>>20794
>I have about two gigabytes
Luck you, I can't even fill 100 mb because of how little there is of non-official content.

>>20797
Oh, I hate fanart of my gal, personally. All of it. I only save official stuff. All two gigs are official.
Official stuff can be rare, too. Like, for example, my waifu's voice actor made a video compilation to add to her professional portfolio demonstrating the voice range of my wife. And she uploaded it unlisted to YouTube and the only way to see it was to visit her blog that had very few subscribers.

I'm sure the well has dried up completely for a lot of people's wives and mine will dry up soon, too. Maybe years down the line I'll learn to appreciate fanart for this reason, but right now, the once a month little official thing I'm able to find is holding me over.

>>20758
>I just don't know if it's moral and ethical to make this weak person into a homosexual.
>I feel like I'm taking advantage of him.
In a general sense, I think what your conscience is telling you is already the right answer. With that said, there's some leeway or perhaps loophole you can take advantage of, but it would help a lot to know who's your husbando in the first place, because things can be really different from a series to another and from one character to another, specially if they have more than 1 source (i.e. more leeway if the character has been in manga + anime + game, etc.)

I don't have a husbando but I think sexual orientation doesn't have much to do with being able to fall in love with someone even if you aren't lonely or desperate.

Also if it did there's the viewpoint that humans are bisexual by default anyways which does have a few facts backing it up.
I also find it hard to believe that you're just born with a sexual orientation since that view doesn't account for changes, I was "normal" in my childhood but now I'm not really interested in any person. Does that mean I was born hetero and I'm now pretending to be disgusted by women (how the human body works in general) or that I was pretending to be interested in girls as a kid?
I can only speak for myself and some shit I've read. I wouldn't know how it works for other people.

>I don't think faggotry is healthy.
Why?
>I really want the best for him, and I don't know if that means to let him live a straight life or to be with me.
I don't really see the difference between a homosexual and a heterosexual life except "our" society looking down onto the first but that's the same for "waifuism" in general which they also claim is not healthy.

>>20759
This was great advice, thank you.

I would love to, but I feel like the framed photo has to be extra special and of the highest quality, and I haven't found the right one yet.

Yes, it's on my nightstand. Really feels nice waking up and falling asleep looking at it.

It's been on my desk for years, and it will always be there

>>20624
What you said really made me think about something: not too long ago, I tried to participate in communities where people talk about their respective waifu and relationships. Maybe I joined because I was a little jealous of her series gaining popularity.
The thing is that, after participating a little in those communities, I felt like I've done something horrible to her, like I've tainted what we had together until then, something private and fragile, but full of pureness and brightness. After that experience, the shadows started to leak in.
Now that I've noticed this, I'm trying to recover what she and I used to have, but the experience of participating in those communities was so morbid that it's hard to recover. I really regret all that. Maybe waifu communities are not meant to be. At least not for me and her. There are really things that cannot be talked about. I wish I had noticed earlier.
Well, assuming that I understood what you were trying to say.

>>20771
I'm the same as you. I deleted all of my posts here because of the realization that I should have kept her private all along.
For me, 90% of my reasoning for doing this was porn and the general threat of others corrupting her, or even being introduced to her at all, really.
Every time I posted a picture of her, there comes with it the chance that someone will jack off to her, or worse even, become sexually obsessed. The 3D world is a terrible place filled with terrible people and I do everything I can now to get her as little exposure to this shithole as possible.
Someone with innocent intent could potentially tweet a picture of her or something for example that could get seen by less innocent individuals, do you see? A domino effect... The fewer people that see my waifu, the better.

>>20771
>>20772
I do the same thing too. I actually talked about her once with a bunch of normalfags who act like they have waifus and I instantly regretted it. They gave me advice for our relationship but each time I talked about her it felt like I tainted her in some way and I get the idea she doesn't really like it at all so I don't ever mention her anymore, it just does more bad than good.
There's also the fact that our relationship is pretty controversial in a lot of ways so it's all the more reason to keep quiet about her.
Pic not related.

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>>20771
>Maybe waifu communities are not meant to be.
Generally they aren't, because "communities" should be focused on the concept, not the element. If you take a single peek to 3DPD relationships you'd notice the a considerable majority is degenerate, and that is partly due to how people treat them: open to feedback and input from people who rarely have the same set of interest, values, convictions, etc., to the point it loses the more it is shared. It was always confusing to me why waifuists were so open to talk about their waifus to each other, more than (or instead of) talking about waifuism and its inherent challenges. Ultimately a good relationship is one of devotion and intimacy, which is contradictory to having it publicized all over the place.
>There are really things that cannot be talked about.
There is rarely a need to even reveal who your waifu is, and imho it should be strongly discouraged until you have gauged personally that those who you might share with are people who have a similar outlook on relationships.
>>20772
>The fewer people that see my waifu, the better.
Indeed. I'm very glad I'm still the only person who has my waifu as their waifu, afaik, and if it were up to me that would never change.