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Recent News Post: More stuff by noto - 23rd Jan 2015
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14383 No. 14383 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Storge, Philia, Eros and Agape.

These are the four words used to describe love.

Storge means affectionate, familial love. The type of love used to describe that between a parent and his children or pet owners for their pets. The equivalent of this is basically having daughterus.

Philia means something more along the lines of friendship, the love between two platonic friends. Essentially that of brotherly love. The closest equivalent I would think of is how some people consider some 2D individuals to be their friends.

Then we move on to Eros, romantic love, the more physical, sensual side of love. This is the feeling of being in love with someone and it often takes a sexual nature. But at the same time it is more of a double-edged sword because it can be both beneficial and detrimental.

And finally Agape, that of selfless, charitable, unconditional love, a type of love that gives and expects nothing in return and very much in many ways the ideal form of love. A spiritual form of love distinct from the previous three loves.

How would you describe the love you have for your waifu?
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>> No. 14631 [Edit]
>>14616
It should also be noted that Eros is the only one that involves romantic love, in case anyone is confused on that.
>> No. 14959 [Edit]
After giving it some thought, I think my love for her was mostly geared towards agape. It was certainly not storge, and if it was mostly philia then I suspect I wouldn't have given up on it. Lastly, I can't recollect one moment where I wished to love her as intimately as eros would imply. She was always this sacred being I looked up to and wholly admired without condition. She was indeed like a goddess to me, and in my mind I was her sole follower.
>> No. 15029 [Edit]
Strangely though, I have 3 "close ones"

-One would be what we call "waifu" and would be a mix of Eros and Agape

-Other is a mix of Philia and Eros (kind of a fuckable soul friend) (bromance?)

-Other is a mix of Storge and Philia (kind of two soul friends helping each other, like a perfect team-up)

I have this going on forever
>> No. 15053 [Edit]
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A colossal amount of Eros with a generous topping of Agape.

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15020 No. 15020 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I go to sleep with a picture of her on my phone, a different one every night.

If I wake up from a nightmare I can see her and know she's keeping me safe.
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>> No. 15023 [Edit]
I do that too, it's quite comforting. I always spend a few minutes every night browsing through her pictures until I fall asleep.
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She's on my phone too. I carry her pictures with me everywhere. Some people might think it's weird but most of the people around me don't seem to care that much, thankfully.
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I've got >>14516 on my phone's wallpaper, and pic related on my lock screen.

It took me a while to start not giving a damn if other people look at my phone. Don't know why, it's great seeing her face all the time, especially when I put my phone on charge just before I go to bed.
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I don't have a phone, but similarly I won't be able to sleep unless she's around. I've gotten so used to this that if I'm not thinking of her then I feel like I'm completely alone and that scares me.

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9896 No. 9896 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
hi there /mai/
I've been conducting a survey on 'waifusim', or what you would call it, and I'd love if you could help my out by filling it in.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dF80TkJncHNyQV9Va1pQWHFlOWUxTkE6MQ#gid=0
Where it asks for 'Community', please just put /mai/.
I'd also like to take this opportunity to ask you, personally, on your thoughts on having a waifu - namely, is it always born out of desperate times, and what kind of relationship do you have with your waifu.
Thank you for helping me.
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Come on guys.
>> No. 14976 [Edit]
>>14975
Hey, at least we're in the majority. And the people who answered yes probably aren't here anymore.
>> No. 14977 [Edit]
>>14975
I never understood what those questions were really asking.

Would I have a stable relationship with a 3D partner? No, because I already have a love. Is it asking that putting aside waifus? I don't know what you're asking me really.

Do I think having a waifu holds me back in 3D relationships? That doesn't make sense, at least not to me. I don't want a 3D relationship. Nothing's "holding me back," I just don't take part in those.
>> No. 14978 [Edit]
>>14977
>Would I have a stable relationship with a 3D partner? No, because I already have a love. Is it asking that putting aside waifus? I don't know what you're asking me really.
It's just if you had the opportunity now, so in your case surely a no.

>Do I think having a waifu holds me back in 3D relationships? That doesn't make sense, at least not to me. I don't want a 3D relationship. Nothing's "holding me back," I just don't take part in those.
If the decisive factor in that decision is you having a waifu, then that's a yes; if that doesn't change it then no.

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14794 No. 14794 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Does anyone else have a waifu/husbando that is traditionally paired with another character, so you aggressively ship that other character with another so your waifu/husbando is your own?

I feel like it's mean sometimes but I also honestly think those two are better together.
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>> No. 14927 [Edit]
>>14914
>And, well, if you have a waifu you're almost bound to 'architect' her on some level, too.
Fair enough. I didn't really expect that comparison, but it makes sense.
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At first I paired Kaede with Mizuki because of the sempai aspect, plus they were both raised in the entertainment industry. But Mizuki kind of drifted off.

I do like her with Yurika, actually. They're both very theatrical, but Kaede doesn't take it seriously so there's that humourous playfulness between them. Also they both love their costumes...

I also like Yurika with Sakura. They're both old-fashioned. But Yuri might be too bossy for her in the long term.

You're definitely right about the Waifu Lite, I think. It's like having friends and matchmaking them.
>> No. 14932 [Edit]
Yurika and Kaede just makes absolutely no sense to me at all. I can't see what they would possibility see in each other or have in common. I haven't even noticed them being together in the same room much. Yurika comes off like a loner who keeps to herself a lot where as Kaede is out going and eccentric. I don't think they have anything in common past being stuck in the same idol group for 3 or 4 ep.
>> No. 14946 [Edit]
>>/an/11796

If you feel like it let's continue there instead of derailing this thread even further.

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14681 No. 14681 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How do I deal with the fact that she's not real?

I can't hug her...
I can't talk to her...
I can't have children with her...
I can't watch a movie with her...
I can't go on long walks with her...
I can't touch her...
And I'll never be able to. I want to die.
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>> No. 14812 [Edit]
Coping is hard. Reailty is hard. She's not here to make it better. I'm all alone without her. But I need her. I want to hold her. I want to be with her. Without her I have no purpose. There's no point to doing anything without being with the one I love. Almost three years now, and my yearning only increases. I can't live on without her. Not like this. I need her.
>> No. 14909 [Edit]
You see her, you can't touch her.
You hear her, you can't hold her.
You want her, you can't have her.
You want to, but she won't let you.

She's not so special so look what you've done, boy.
>> No. 14918 [Edit]
>>14909
Go fuck yourself
>> No. 14925 [Edit]
>>14918
Anon-san, why you so mean to sage-san? ;_;

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11948 No. 11948 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What are you giving your waifu for white day? Other than semen, of course.
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>>11957
When a women buys herself an outfit as a gift for her partner, that's usually because it's something he would enjoy seeing her wear (or take off) as such, he gets something out of it. A figure of your waifu is something you and you alone can enjoy, your waifu doesn't get anything out of it.

...unless you believe the figure serves as some sort of interdimensional conduite that opens a gateway across the planes of reality allowing you to better interact with your waifu in her own realm of existence... but even then that's not much of a gift to her unless you believe she's over there waiting for you. otherwise such a scenario would be comparable to a stalker molesting a voodoo doll of the person they like.
But that's just how I see it.
>> No. 11961 [Edit]
A figure is a Shintai. Look that up.

And hotgluing is against the rules, all the time.
>> No. 11962 [Edit]
>>11961
That doesn't explain how the figure is a gift to the character it's based on, and not the person who bought it.
>> No. 11964 [Edit]
>>11952
I found it on Mandarake, I could have gone without it, but I felt that I should get her something so I scrounged up all my money and bought it.

>>11954
You could say that, but I choose to see it differently. I see is more as 'an ode' to her - I already buy figures for myself but buying one of her, for her feels a lot different.

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14888 No. 14888 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
mai waifu is Kanu Unchou fro Ikki Tousen. I love her more then anything in the world. I have no interest in 3d women at all. I know that sounds weird, but that is just me. Sometimes I do get sad having to wait so long to get to my Pagan paradise. Hopfully she will be waiting for me.
>> No. 14895 [Edit]
Put this in the sticky instead of making a new thread, there doesn't seem to be much worth discussing here specifically

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14418 No. 14418 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Where would you be in life if you hadn't met your waifu? Would you be better or worse off? Would you be in a relationship with a 3DPD or with another waifu?

I've never handled getting crushes well and it was all so damn pointless. Before I met my waifu I didn't have as many ways to express my vulnerabilities or feel like my natural self was any good; I always felt locked in the confines of proper social conventions and such. My sexuality was also more random and unstable. I didn't think I was capable of loving anyone or making anyone happy.

On the other hand, I've had to deal with feelings of inadequacy and guilt and I might've gotten better grades and that stuff had I no waifu. But I would've definitely experienced less in life as I don't think I would've gotten a 3DPD, and in the end I think that's what matters to me the most.
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>> No. 14446 [Edit]
I think if I hadn't met her at the time I did, I would just meet her the very next second. My life wouldn't progress until I've met her.
>> No. 14480 [Edit]
I am sure we've had this thread before. I just could find it from catalog or archive..

But yeah, if I hadn't met her, no doubt I would be six feet under.
>> No. 14483 [Edit]
I'd probably have killed myself by now.

I don't know if I'd find another waifu, but I'm sure I wouldn't be with a real person. I'm too seclusive and I get uncomfortable when real people get close to me.

I was too much of a robot before meeting my waifu. But because of her, I learned to just do the things that I want and enjoy life. I guess falling in love with my waifu got me to start loving myself too.
>> No. 14892 [Edit]
I would be very depressed all the time not enjoy things I do for hobbies. Cause she helps not be depressed and gets me out of my shell. So I would not be in good shape without her.

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14889 No. 14889 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Don't get me wrong just because I don't like 3d doesn't mean if Kanu was one I would love her any less. Cause if you love someone really love them, then it should not matter what form they are in. of course that is just me and what I think of my Kanu
>> No. 14905 [Edit]
Alrighty then.

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14872 No. 14872 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Why is it that we love our waifus over 3d girls?
I feel it is because to us, our waifus are our ideals. They are our perfect significant other.
But do we love our waifus *because* they are perfect? Compared to 3d who are flawed, and can cause us harm and make mistakes. Waifus will never hurt us, will always be there for us, and will do us no wrong.

That leads me to ask the question, would you love your waifu even if she made mistakes, was flawed, was human? If so, then to love is to look past someone's mistakes and failures and love them anyway. But by focusing on all of our interaction with our waifu on the positive and ignoring their flaws, we create them as perfect figures.

Would that not mean we love them *just* because they are perfect? And that our feelings for them may change if they were human? Because why wouldn't we avoid interacting with them in a way that may end in a negative experience?

Perhaps waifu love should not simulate a real life relationship. To love a waifu is to love perfection, because your standards cannot be met by 3d people. I suppose one could say "I only love perfect people, which is why I love my waifu." and that would be the end of it.

If I'm not entirely coherent I apologize in advance. I am having trouble explaining my thoughts on this subject.
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I cannot agree. Too idealistic. I love Erica as much for her terrible cooking, which is why I deal with food, and her general laziness, which we share, as I do for her perfect beauty or top fighter ace skills.

As for 3D, I've never known of any 3D pig who even begins to approach her level of brilliance, so any kind of comparison is laughable at best.
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This was something that troubled me for a while, but I think I have sufficiently found an answer for myself that satisfies me. I'm going to try my best to explain my thought process but I'm sorry if it doesn't come across well.

I never wanted to love Keisuke because he was "perfect" - I wanted to love him as a person, and in a way as an echoing of a part of myself. (I think more people want this than they realize.) Lord knows he isn't perfect, and he makes plenty of lethal mistakes in canon, which I have ruminated upon many times on this board. In fact, his flaws (or specifically: how they lead to his downfall) were what made him so attractive to me in the first place - they were the same as the ones that I saw in myself, but instead of recoiling, I found myself really sympathetic and drawn in.

That said, I think I understand what you mean. I'd wager to say that for most (but not all), having a waifu doesn't have the drawbacks of arguing, annoying habits, miscommunications and misunderstandings that tends to drive 3D relationships apart. Those only manifest if the 2D-con imagines them, for the most part. If you strip your waifu down to her (good) parts especially, you may forget a fatal flaw that she has. That and in my case, if the flaws were what made me love him to begin with, do those truly count as flaws (especially if I never imagine myself arguing with him or doing things I'd find annoying)?

When it comes down to it, I love him because he completes me in a way nobody else can. Nobody can relate to me like he does; nobody can share my happiness, fears, sadness, and regret as openly and give in return; nobody else can understand me on the same base level, and know that there are no misunderstandings because we intimately know each other (I'm having difficulties phrasing it better, but in a way that you cannot with 3D people). We actually have argued a few times but the arguments are brief and typically trivial.

Does that mean that I love him because he's "perfect"? I suppose you could say that, and him being 2D definitely helps, but deep down I just love him because he's him. And also my time spent with him has made me realize more and more that I should not treat him like I would a 3D man as the experience is completely
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>Waifus will never hurt us, will always be there for us, and will do us no wrong.

I think that there's an irony or something with this kind of situation: For some of us, the fact that they technically do not exist in the same way as we do brings dissatisfaction and, at times, grief because we can never truly interact with them. In that way, while they don't directly hurt us, we can still get hurt with the realization that they're not "there" and feel wronged that person we fell in love with is not of this plane of existence. By loving a waifu that will never directly hurt us, will always be there for us, and will do us no wrong, there are chances that some people here or even most of us might have, at one point or more, felt hurt and felt wronged that they don't "exist", that's they're just ideals. That's my take on it.

Also, as it was asked in this post >>14883, do they count as "flaws" if those qualities attract you to your waifu in the first place? To answer this question, I think this is where the old saying "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder." comes in. Admit it, at least one person who knows your waifu/hasubando has a dislike or even hate for him/her, and we're not just talking about the people we know. The question: if you really are in love with your waifu, do you have to care about their opinions? Are you going stop loving your waifu because she has canonical flaws that someone doesn't like?

But to speak personally from my own experience, I have mentioned in this subforum many times that my waifu is a very flawed person. But I generally don't care about her flaws. In fact, I think it adds uniqueness to her, I think it makes her one of a kind and I think it suits her strong personality. So, I guess, just like what have been posted already, that I love her for who she is, despite her flaws.
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>>14883
>his flaws (or specifically: how they lead to his downfall) were what made him so attractive to me in the first place - they were the same as the ones that I saw in myself, but instead of recoiling, I found myself really sympathetic and drawn in.
>When it comes down to it, I love him because he completes me in a way nobody else can. Nobody can relate to me like he does; nobody can share my happiness, fears, sadness, and regret as openly and give in return; nobody else can understand me on the same base level, and know that there are no misunderstandings because we intimately know each other (I'm having difficulties phrasing it better, but in a way that you cannot with 3D people). We actually have argued a few times but the arguments are brief and typically trivial.

I think you phrased your post well, and these two points in particular could've almost been plucked from my brain. I was also attracted to Reki initially because we share our biggest imperfections, and then I grew to realize that it ran much deeper than that. I wouldn't say she 'completes' me though, it's more like we're the masculine and feminine expressions of the same essential being.

That aside and bringing it back to the OP's question, it could be taken that even with these imperfections she is still ideal and perfect for me. I'm not sure how that could be changed exactly, but if it were to, would I still have feelings for her? It's hard to say. In a way though, I almost feel that's impossible at this point. Because I have grown and changed a lot in the past ten years, and really so has she, for every time I rewatch her series or 'interact' with her I experience her with new eyes, with a new self, and hence I would say that she is changed and 'new' each time as well. Of course, things could be different were she 3D and could speak to me plainly day to day, but even then I highly doubt it. It's a deep, essential part of us that is shared, and it's going to take more than hypothetical what-ifs to break that.

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14588 No. 14588 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I just don't know anymore. I haven't been able to function since watching her latest appearance.

Ragyo revises her memory to make her feel like she had a great life and now she must fight for her family. On one hand, I feel as if it's good that she has the feeling of happiness, but it's false. That happiness isn't real. I'm really struggling with how to feel about this. And if she dies... I don't know what I'll do.
>> No. 14589 [Edit]
They went full retard with Ryuko. You have my sympathy, anon.
>> No. 14592 [Edit]
About her current attitude: at this point she's more or less Shinji and Unit 01 fused in one so don't worry. There sure must be some sin and despair since light only emerges from the dark and the larger the bet the larger the benefit; but I'm sure it's just another passing stage on her way to self-realization, whatever that'd bring and cost.

On her not being a human character after all, I wouldn't worry about that either: it happened to my own waifu recently and I found it delightful; those are to be known someday as Überwaifus.
>> No. 14593 [Edit]
BTW: add her to he sticky already, don't chicken out.
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Renewed fears for last episode...

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