>>3061

>Do you really need a rigorous definition of 'declining discussion quality'?

I need spcific examples. What I'd like to see would look like this: 1. what it looked like back in the day 2. what it looks like now 3. why it's a bad thing 4. a possible solution. Just complaining 'it's shit' is actually making the situation worse.

>Its possible you simply haven't noticed any decline, because you haven't been observing it on a long enough timescale. You're more likely to have first started visiting this site during the more recent snowballing periods

That's a stupid ad-hominem. And I'll have to disappoint you, I have been around since ib4f (although I started browsing /tc/ only two or so months before the ib4f /tc/ went down). And if you think it used to be better on ib4f then sorry, you're just being delusional. A healthy dose of /jp/'s cynical elitism actually improved the site as a whole in my opinion. The place might be less friendly but that discourages circle jerking which was a big issue on ib4f (at least in my opinion).

And like I said, I actually agree but if all you have to say is 'it's bad, what now' then I'd rather not see such a thread in the first place. And you can't just play your 'yeah, sure, it's much better to just stay passive and let matters get even worse, right? At least I tried to help' because if you really want to do something about it you simply have to propose some kind of a solution when you create a meta thread like this. If it'll be a stupid one you should prepare to get flamed (and it'd be best to prepare for that even if you think it's a good one), though.

And of course I agree with the graph you posted but that's inevitable in my opinion. I could say 'I wasted away my entire life browsing the 'net' with a clear conscience and I can only name one community which didn't get hit by this. I have some theories behind why it keeps happening (I told you about imageboards) but explainin

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>>3067
You think tohno-chan is better for the same reason that I think its worse, so I think digging out examples wouldn't support my case any further.

I just want to deny that I made an ad-hominem attack, at least intentionally. Coming here later doesn't mean you're a crappier person, its just that it likely would've skewed your perspective.

Short of some kind of major structural change (like I dunno, making the post reporting system more efficient or some horrible incarnation of upvotes) I think the best bet would be to try and change the board culture starting from the top. Users seem to take the words of the admins, mods and the rules as gospel so this shouldnt be so hard to do. First off, people should just stop being so angry. People should be friendly and not insult each other. /mai/ is a pretty good example, people are usually very friendly and supportive of one another and I'd like to see more of that elsewhere on tohno-chan. Somehow this needs to be balanced with our 'Gestapo' where we heckle the crap out of anything we perceive as a threat to our board. Secondly, I think the 'banned+discouraged stuff' list needs to be simple and all-encompassing rather than being implemented on a patchwork basis. There should also be a general guideline to the expected standard of post quality, nothing too specific (else this place would get bland and really stagnant), just enough to give the subtle push to write nicer.

>>3070

> You think tohno-chan is better for the same reason that I think its worse, so I think digging out examples wouldn't support my case any further.

No, if you were to read my posts carefully you would notice that I agreed with you not once but twice:

>>3056

>Now I understand that he referred to the fact that nowadays the posts are much shorter, no effort gets put into writing them and they are simply half-assed but he could at least write that.

>>3067

>And like I said, I actually agree

I just said that - in my opinion - ib4f wasn't much better than /tc/ is nowadays. Just for the record, I enjoyed /tc/ the most around April~May 2011. The boards were active, lots of discussions which were of interest to me took place and the posts seemed to be well thought-out most of the time. Now I'm not saying it was perfect since increased activity inevitably leads to incresing drama but that trade-off seemed fair enough to me back then.

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>>3056
Not everything people have to say can take up a half dozen paragraphs. Sometimes there just isn't that much to say.

I know I for one can safely say in my past experiences I have been given a hard time(well maybe not hard time, more like poked fun at a bit? you know how those guys are) by people from around here and the irc channel more than just a few times for my little bad habit of excessively dragging out the things that might wright on any given topic or subject that don't require as many words as I normally would shove in it just to get across a simple idea, I believe this could possibly be called rambling in any event. too long didn't read and what not: I use to many words for simple ideas.

The threads in /ot/ are bad because...

>This is a board for topics that don't fit on other boards, but that are still otaku/hobby related.

...and very few of them are otaku/hobby related, they're entirely off topic.

>>2980
>they're entirely off topic.
Is that meant to be a joke? or are you unaware the board was named 'off topic' for years?

>>3113
So off topic that it's too off topic. It's too off topic for the site!

Yeah the rule ssay 'otaku related stuff which doesn't fit in elsewhere' but nobody cares and nearly every thread there breaks that rule. In fact the rule probably shouldn't be there.

>>2753

I think it was implied 1 sticky for all birthdays, not one for each. That would be chaos.

Just make a thread for it, it doesn't need to be a sticky. if you think people wont bump old threads on /mai/, you clearly don't browse the board very much.

>>2754
We already have one sticky on /mai/. If we had one more, we would have multiple stickies. That was my point.

why would it have to be a sticky?

Post edited on 15th Oct 2012, 10:07am

http://tohno-chan.com/arc/

>>2890
Thanks, but I meant the ones that are deleted before they 404 because of being kusothreads.

I am pretty sure they aren't archived, atleast they aren't public. We just want deleted threads out from out sight as soon as possible and we don't want to remember them.

>>2815
it's not gay if op is a woman

Post edited on 19th Sep 2012, 2:46am

Who gives a shit if it's gay? I rather OP be a gay guy than a woman.

OUWA

I have to say here that I think you're all misunderstanding Taniguchi horribly. Taniguchi himself might be somewhat of a laughable goof, and you all get to enjoy amusing yourself at his expense. Do you think he is that way by accident? No, of course not. Taniguchi is an entertainer, a professional. He doesn't care what you think of him so long as you're enjoying Haruhi, Taniguchi is a happy man.
If you take a look at traditional manzai comedy, the boke gets all the laughs and the tsukkomi is made to look foolish. The tsukkomi volunteers to "take one for the team" so that the act can be successful. "Cool" characters like Nagato take no blows to their ego to benefit the show. They just go out and look awesome and everyone loves them. The Taniguchis of the world neglect their public image and look like utter douchebags on camera for your entertainment. He is going to be hearing shit about it for the rest of his life and he knows it and doesn't give half a crap if thats the case because Taniguchi is an entertainer. Guys like Taniguchi and Bacchi-Gu (fat guy from Green Green) will never be anyone's waifu, they don't get to be in the doujin, they don't get the glory or even get to be on screen very much, but Anime would be a whole lot worse without them, god dammit.

>>2865
>Such immoral cultures have died. It's called culture evolution.
Are you claiming that our current culture is moral and good? You seem to be idolizing normality, if we are to argue in your fashion.

>>2867
>I think a good chunk of us NEETs ended up where we are because we are lazy an irresponsible (among others), I don't really know how one should go about trying to explain this.
Yes that's what you THINK.

>Didn't expect to see you say something like that since the rules say drug discussion is allowed as long as it's kept to one thread, it's just that you seem to have an exceptionally hard time abiding by the rules.
We've already had multiple threads that mentions drugs here. Also where rules say so?

And I didn't mean you were using drugs. Just hypothetical situation: if you talk about drugs, more people will have interest in them, which could lead more trouble.

>>2870

>Yes that's what you THINK.

Well it's certainly true for me and other NEETs I talked with through IRC and whatnot. And really, if you look through some /so/ threads like that 'are you a piece of shit, too?' one we had not so long ago I think saying that it's not just me and those 5-6 guys I talked with isn't too far fetched.

Actually I'm inclined to say that it's another case of 'well it's not true for me so it shouldn't be true for anyone else around here' on your side.

And really, what kind of NEET is responsible? I have a hard time imagining such a person. Many of us are so deep down the path of procrastination that we have trouble forcing ourselves to watch anime and play games and you expect us to be resonsible?

>Also where rules say so?

>>2660 This should be more than enough, really. Just because the rules weren't updated doesn't mean Tohno didn't say what he thinks about the whole deal.

>>2660

Join TohnoGold™ today! Benefits:
- Access to secret truneet board. Like /so/, but anyone who admits to interacting with other humans in person is banned.
- You and your waifu are listed on the registry of /tc/ sponsors.
- Option to enable recaptchas if you really enjoy doing those.

>>2825
if i donate $500 can i have mai waifu on the frontpage

>>2827
Maybe.

>>2827
sure whatever

Just to preempt it, .et does have third-level domains but the relevant one is .net.et unfortunately.

Oh, this is kind of interesting.
> gr.jp: groups of two or more people, or groups of registered companies

>>2776

While looking for a NEET related domain, I actually tried registering that or similar once...didn't work out. Ended up with www.truneet.com instead.

tohno.asia??????????

i like .net best

>>2720

It was a friendly joke, not a mean spirited one.

And sure, why not, go ahead, not like I care either way.

>>2721
>>2723
>>2725

Let's blame the OP, he made all those poor souls post those awful threads afterall!

I'll make one that's even worse tomorrow, look forward to it.

3 new /ot/ threads and they're all complete shit.
Thanks OP.

maybe you guys should make some better threads to push off the shitty ones.

If the thread sucks, report it. We don't know what bothers people if no one speaks up.

I just got banned...

>>2384
why?

I keep getting banned from the IRC channel as soon as I connect to the server. I have no idea why.

>>2709

I don't see your IP or host banned in the channel. It's possible you have a GLine/server ban - which you'd have to resolve with Rizon.

>>2694
I don't care what kind discussions we have had in past. Nobody is pulling "tc was better back then" card. In this thread we are talking about present situtation. If TC was better back then or now, it doesn't matter because point of meta threads are to increase quality of board.

In my books drugs, drinking and acting like retard without using your own brains will be normal, and shouldn't belong here. I will complain about this decision in every metathread because I have right to tell my opinion to make this board better.

Post edited on 9th Aug 2012, 10:41pm

The drug thread is kind of stupid. I don't think /tc/ is the place for a bump when high/drunk thing and I doubt anyone here cares if someone is getting fucked up on random things or what their experience was. But the subject matter was considered tolerable so all you can do is hide it or avoid /so/ and /ot/ all together (since it's all just off topic crap).

>>2694
Well yeah, thats due to the defense mechanism our community has developed over the years. Its silly to tell our users to take it easy since if we took it easy we'd be overrun. To maintain quality and keep unwanted people out we heckle, complain and ban whenever we notice anything off. On one hand it protects us by telling people whats acceptable and whats not. On the other hand, it creates a culture of fear, encouraging people to be more and more 'conservative'.

In my opinion I'd be nicer to get more activity and we can handle more activity so long as we keep the defense mechanism strong.

>>2703
I agree. The 'culture' might change a bit, but the report button is still there for anything that is not acceptable or wanted.