you know what, just never mind.
i don't need moderators getting their kicks by fucking with me when i'm trying to post here.
just fuck this website, i'm never coming back.
its a shit boring site anyway.

You made two nearly identical threads so I deleted the first one, how is that fucking with you?

I wanted to do this when I first saw the scene and then figured there'd be thousands of other people with the same idea.

>>2210
Slower.

http://tohno-chan.com/ot/res/18197.html

Okay, a few suggestions to make that `website' better.

1.- Center the whole thing. If it's in top left it looks stupid.

2.- Make the icons and stuff bigger (only do this after you have centered the stuff).

3.- If I hover over the icons, I want to know what it is. Some icons make it obvious, but others clearly don't. So make it like xkcd does with the comics, just that instead of another witty continuation of the comic, just make the title appear (`blog', `donations'....)

4.- I have seen a few `memes' in that website, IIRC. Please no.

hi tokiko!

this is mine i am very proud of it as well:
http://www.skiphopz.com

my uncle, Vin Diesel, helped me put it together

>>2167
>Google Chrome is having trouble accessing the network.
>This may be because your firewall or antivirus software wrongly thinks Google Chrome is an intruder on your computer and is blocking it from connecting to the Internet.

I-Is it gone?

>>2184
Right you are! This record just needed to happen though, I have the rest of my life to try to become Freddy Mercury.

>>2185
I think you're right about the lack of diversity, for I tried to make this a concise and cohesive album, and just hoped it wouldn't be too tedious of a listen on account of it's brevity.
Thank you though, I find it interesting that you mention glam rock and new wave, as I'd count neither of those as influences in the least. Never recorded any covers, and all the cover songs I rock out to by myself are wildly inappropriate for my voice anyway.

>>2186
Sure. You can stream from the bandcamp page, though.

I'm the guy that said the thing about Tom Waits, The Pop Group, and Foetus.
At this point, though, it's really, REALLY reminding me of Swans, specifically White Light from the Mouth of Infinity and maybe a gentler Filth. Somewhat less feeling like The Jesus Lizard, but it's still there just a little.
I'm honestly liking it more the more that I listen to it. >>2184 said that your voice needs a lot of work but really I like the vocals the way they are; they're characteristic.
I think this album would have been seen as ahead of its time, but would have fit in very well in any mid-90's post-punk collection. It was made at just the right time, to be honest. I'll have to let it sink in a little more, but the way I'm getting it so far I really like it.

As far as the whole covers thing, I think you might do well with a few Jesus and Mary Chain tracks, and, just for the hell of it, some Pere Ubu.

Also, should the title be "Terra Somma: Then the Ceiling Became the Sky"? What's the significance of the subtitle, shown on the art but not on the bandcamp page itself?

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>>2187
I heard that track when you posted it before, and I thought it was good. I couldn't figure out whether the vocal delivery was intentional or not, though. If intentional, it's not a bad idea but it needs to be honed more so it isn't quite as all-over-the-place; if not, well, work on your voice but still use that variable, warbling style of singing. I agree with others that the singing is unique and worthy of keeping to some extent, regardless of whether it's intentional.

Also, the title of the album is supposed to translate from Latin as "sleepy land" or "land of sleep", right? If so, think it should probably be "terra somni". "Somnus" is a noun (rather than an adjective, in which case it would be "somna", as you have it), so it declines into "somni" for genitive (which would then give you "land of sleep"). You could also use "terra somniculosa" (the latter word being the feminine form of the adjective "somniculosus", i.e. sleepy) but that's somewhat unwieldy. Or you could just say it's a creative reworking of the noun "somnus" into an adjective since "somni" loses the feminine rhyme "terra" has with "somna". It doesn't really matter to me what you do, but there is a small chance another pedant will bother you about the title as is.

>>2188
Shit, thanks man.
I just put the subtitle there to fill up the dead space in the cover. It's a line from Third Plateau, and I felt it reflected the spirit of the project for me.
>>2190
Thanks!
I wouldn't say the vocal delivery is intentional or not, it's more naivete than anything, as I've spent the last two years practicing in my apartment alone with no feedback save for the couple of songs I've posted here. Amazingly, my neighbors never complained once.
I knew the title didn't really work in latin, but I did not know most of what you posted. The title just popped into my head when I started writing stuff back then, and it became something of a mantra that kept me on track, so keeping it seemed natural.

As an aside, the album was linked to on a reddit board where it was flogged soundly. I figure if redditors hate it, then I at least did something right.

Post edited on 6th Jul 2013, 6:30pm

I actually needed to zoom in to understand them, which is not a good sign; but after doing it, I liked what I saw. Just: the nipples of the saggy tits leveling up with the wristbands doesn't help neither of them; leaving the wrists uncovered would help us focusing in the tits.

OP here, thanks guys.

>>2163

I don't know. It is a weird fetish I have, I guess. Sometimes I start games totally innocently and then it goes into chaotic lewdness and perversion. I've tried to make games off and on for the past four years or so, and I've yet to finish one. Although I at least have a wealth of sprites and tile sets to use.

>>2164

That is a good point. Thanks.

The third one is really good. The other ones, not so much.

My advice is that you make them all short like that ginger maid. The talls ones look kind of... I don't know.

>>2170

The one with the red hair and blue outfit is from a game called Violated Heroine. I used some of the sprite sheets because they gave a really good checkerboard layout, which you can still partially see.

I know that I still have a long way to go before becoming "great" at it but I like to think that my artwork is still original.

>>2125
OP here
Thank you. I appreciate the critique. what parts were groan worthy?
>I'd like to overhaul some of the text.
That would be fine. You could write up what you want done and I could implement it. It would be cool If you could directly edit the script but I dont think you can open .rpy files without ren'py installed.

>P.S. I see what you did there.
Heh, I think I made it too obvious. I guess that's fine though. I know katawa did that in that pan shot of the classroom.

My skype and deviantart is heavensdeviant

Post edited on 3rd Apr 2013, 5:03pm

>>2126
Thanks
But I must say, I am not too sure of your intentions for the story.
Upon multiple playthroughs I've noticed the overall atmosphere has a 'hackneyed cliche trope'-vibe to it. Not sure if that was intentional.

I'll deconstruct some stuff here just to see if you like the elements presented.

1. Are the characters in Highschool? (unless you where going for that overused "I gotta study had so I can get into a good university"-trope)
I'd suggest changing it to a Community College or a similar type of place. That way Max would really be wasting away his life. On bad days he could just be skipping all his lectures and hanging out in the cafeteria/commons area.

2. Give Sasha a part-time job, volunteer work, or study group. Something to prove she is more ambitious than Max.
A part-time job would be ideal. Sasha could be working to pay off her educational debts while her father pays for Max and forces him to go.
This could cause Sasha to be a little bitter at times and resent Max for his 'free ride'.

2a. Later down the road Sasha tries to hook up Max with a shy co-worker or friend. This would create a triangle of conflict between Max, Sasha, and Lynn. This could even give Max internal conflict if him and said girl find some common ground + these interactions cause trouble in Lynn's 'Life Continuum'.

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>>2127
>1. Are the characters in Highschool? (unless you where going for that overused "I gotta study had so I can get into a good university"-trope)
>I'd suggest changing it to a Community College or a similar type of place. That way Max would really be wasting away his life. On bad days he could just be skipping all his lectures and hanging out in the cafeteria/commons area.


I was going with highschool but I don't have a strong reason to. Would it be weird that Sasha and Max would both be going to the same college? I think Sasha would be at a higher academic level. Well, her english grades are shit but she's very gifted in math. If they gave scholarship in that she would probably get it. that sort of thing just comes naturally to her.
>2.
>This could cause Sasha to be a little bitter at times and resent Max for his 'free ride'.
Only thing you've said I'm deadset against. The explanation why is a little lengthy but here I go. Sasha isn't dumb but she lacks a lot of common sense sometimes. the coffee thing was the first example I've set up to illustrate this. She doesn't pay attention to a lot of obvious things or just doesn't think about them. She gets confused and messes up a lot so max has always done things to help her and fix things when she messes up. many little things. When their parents had to leave they left max in charge even though sasha was older. She was never mad at them because she knew they were right to choose so. Only a little mad at herself for her own incompetence. Their whole life, Max was the smart, dependable one and Sasha needed looking after. So their mom passes away. Max gets depressed and has some existential crisis maybe. He's antisocial but that's normal for him. Sasha gets worried and starts trying to force her own ideals on him. "You were always there when I was hurt! You were always the one who fixed everything and took care of me! Well now your in pain and I should be able to do something!!! Why don't you let me help

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>>2128
Now it all makes sense. For the most part it sounds like you've got everything figured out (and good artwork to boot). Well, at least you know where to contact me.

I might still look into using Ren'Py.
I always wanted a to see a horror anime that was akin to the slasher genre of the 1980's. Maybe making a cheap and stylistic visual novel would be the best way of putting it out of my head and into perspective.
I've gotta find someway to kill my insomnia.

>>2092
It was fun.
Are you the guy who made songs named around "dicks"?

>>2097
Yup. The naming scheme was just sort of a dumb running joke to myself that stuck for a while.

When I first started making primarily instrumental stuff, I was used to the conventional method of naming a song after the lyrics, so I really had no idea what to call any of it.

That's it, you guys inspired me.

Between all the 'Chinamation' and 'Fanime' videos on youtube I figure: "Why not me?"
It's not like my artistic understanding will decrease from the experience.

Trouble is I am severely computer illiterate to the point where the only two programs I comprehend are mspaint and windows movie maker.
You pros have any Software suggestions?

>>2102
Flash is pretty good. I know it might have sort of a bad reputation around here, but it's not like you need to tween the shit out of everything.
For example, the cuts in this scene http://youtu.be/jRHJntLYMh0 where the students are calling each other were animated in flash. You can't really tell the difference, in fact, the only reason I know of it is because I know who animated it.
Other than that, I've heard good stuff about TVP Animation Pro (it's bitmap-based vs. Flash and Toonboom which are vector-based), but I haven't tried it myself. It's developed by French animators, so probably worth a shot.
Of course you could also just draw the frames on paper and clean them on computer. Or not use the computer at all! In the end, it's the craftsman holding the tool, not the tools themselves, which is the most important.

>This might sound stupid, but I think building model kits may have indirectly helped with that just a little bit.
I bet it did. My skills improved slightly after having one to pose around.
I remember Toys-R-Us used to sell gundam kits in the early 2000's. Any good places to get them now? or must I contend with the collectors prices on amazon?

>>2085
http://www.gundamstoreandmore.com/
http://www.hlj.com/
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/gundam/

When you take shipping cost into account though, amazon is really not that bad a choice for this. Depends on the rarity or demand of what you're looking for.

But yeah, most model kits are generally a lot cheaper/easier to find relative to animu figs and PVCs and shit.

Also, I doodled this fairly quick for shits and giggles since you mentioned the idea.

I used to draw crudely drawn mechs. I mean, they weren't meant to be mechs, but with the shapes that I kept adding to the shapes already drawn on the paper, it ended up becoming a mech, just not good or the traditional kind of mech.

>>2029
>I'm a reclusive self-hating fuck and I can't write believable relationships between characters, which is a serious problem

I experience this also. But not all fiction needs to have well developed characters, believe it or not. I'm reading a series called The Remaining, the characterization is really thin but the author includes a lot of military details that make it interesting to read.

>>2029

>What's going on? How are the projects going?

Just as planned, I'm procrastinating like there's no tomorrow and haven't written a single line yet. See, I would've written a dozen of books by now if not for the fact that I keep telling myself 'no use starting now, I'll kill myself before I'll manage to finish it either way'. Joke is I've been telling myself that for years.

>If anyone's actively involved in a VN project or knows someone who is, I'd love to hear about it. I need something to do, or else I'm going to die of boredom and depression.

... And if I weren't such a lazy piece of shit I would've at least attempted to gather a team for a generic VN long long ago. I always used tot think that coordinating a project like this is super hard but recently I somehow got involved in a big project (not a VN) and even though it resulted in a failure it gave me lots of confidence in regards to managing 'human resources'.

... Well, no point starting now either way, I'll kill myself before we'll manage to finish it either way...

>>2033
I suppose you're right. Good lit doesn't have to be character-driven. Maybe I'm just taking the wrong approach.

>>2034
>... And if I weren't such a lazy piece of shit I would've at least attempted to gather a team for a generic VN long long ago. I always used tot think that coordinating a project like this is super hard but recently I somehow got involved in a big project (not a VN) and even though it resulted in a failure it gave me lots of confidence in regards to managing 'human resources'.

Well, damn. I feel the same way. But there's no day like today to start being productive, right? Tomorrow never comes.

As I said before, I'd be interested in getting involved with any kind of interesting project, whether it's a VN or some sort of collaborative writing thing etc. I'm trying to come up with a few solid ideas myself.

I like all of the ideas here, I hope you finish.

I've got two vns I've been working on.
One about a guy waking up to find everyone's gone, surviving for a bit and dying.
Another is a murder mystery on the first civilian luxury space cruiser.
For the artwork, I'm just drawing crap and taking pictures. Not worried about quality. Can't be, or I'd never finish. There's lots of free-use music out there too.

Oh wow, this is even worse than what I expected.

>>2041
That gets really hard to listen to half way in.

>>2042
It gets really great after 3:00.

I think I actually like this one.

it's grate

Everyone pointed it out already, but amazing.

Why do they have such a bad fate ;_;

I laughed, I cried, now for suicide.

By that, you mean filming sceneries?
I could never bring myself to film other people.

Also I consider 3D to be 3D, no matter how it is.

Shinden, stalking should be fine as long as you don't get caught but if I were you I'd rather refrain from creating evidence of what you did. Just a friendly advice.

>>1963
What the heck are you talking about?