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655 No. 655 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
True communism, never existed in the world. We can talk about communists -people with a certain definition of communism, views and possibly communal ownership, in a state reality which has as much to do with communism as design space ferries with chicken farms.Even
the communist government, composed of communists, does not determine the communist regime and sooner on the more or less real or more or less utopian version of socialism.

First of all, communism has never been built, maybe apart from the Sultanate of Brunei and the United Arab Emirates, where thanks to the small size of the country and with large oil deposits, a system was introduced that the citizen gets what he needs from power and for free. But even there there are class differences and money,which in communism should not be necessary.

Meanwhile in a society which fully understand idea of communism , each individual will intuitively know what to do and where to go
to enter into resonance with another unit that is able to provide it (whether it's a service or a good). There will be no currency in this a society. Everyone will do what he is passionate about and excitement. For example, one person is passionate about producing healthy food and other person is passionate about producingtools for the production of this food. Some of them will satisfy the needs of others without the need for money. In our present society, this solution exists partly among passionate people. The one who lives with passion and excitement will notice the same as "things" always happen in the right place and time, and one does not have to strain too much to live in abundance.

Unfortunately, today's society is dominated by the desire to dominate and having more than others. This creates a hierarchy and social problems . Let changes take place they must occur at the level of the individual and then at the level of the collective.
>> No. 656 [Edit]
>>655
>Meanwhile in a society which fully understand idea of communism , each individual will intuitively know what to do and where to go
No, they won't. People are not blank slates and people are not ants. What if there is not enough people passionate about growing food, or driving buses, or cleaning toilets, or working in a factory? If I want a laptop, how would I get it and how would it be made? Would there there be a laptop guild? Would they have the resources to get the supplies and equipment plus maintenance and electricity for it? With the help of people who just happen to be passionate about providing those things? What would I give in exchange for the laptop? Would they really just give it to me, let alone 500 other people? How long would it take to get mine?

How would the people passionate about growing food decide on who gets what land? I don't want to share land. Who will stop me from fighting over it? What if the guys who grow food decide to only give it to people in exchange for servitude and other forms of authority? They could team up and basically form a new, non-real communism government? They'll want to do it to, regardless of how well they know communism. What about their kids? Will they give a shit about ideology? Who will be responsible for teaching real communism if not a government?

Any government will take advantage of their power to live better than others. You need a government to stop another government from being formed by people who posses necessities or weapons. "Domination" is simply a means to an end, a better life for you and your family.

Or, I could just do nothing and live off others work. What about people who are passionate about nothing or watching TV all day? Or eating and breeding? What if way more people are "passionate" about things that aren't beneficial to others?

If I work harder than some fucker, I want to live better than him, otherwise, why bother? Many people think like that, at least to some extent, and then things turn to shit. You can't reprogram human nature, which did not evolve to be compatible with communism
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554 No. 554 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Crunchyroll is finally starting to catch flak for something we've known for years
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>> No. 630 [Edit]
I've been pirating since I first got into anime and if I absolutely MUST use crunchyroll, I do so through adblock. I trust everyone else does the same.
>> No. 634 [Edit]
When I have the money for it, i'll just buy the blue-ray of any show I like after streaming it if it's available. It would be nice if animation studios had a donate option.
>> No. 644 [Edit]
I'm not sure what to tell people who get mad corporations not for the amount that a corporation takes off for themselves, but for the mere concept of taking a cut off the top for themselves. That's their motivation to invest in the system in the first place. And that's not a defense of Crunchyroll, but a criticism of any company involved in the middleman role.

And I'm pretty sure that the animation studios will get paid for fulfilling their orders some point down the line, even if the compensation for demand/supply is not representatively distributed.
>> No. 677 [Edit]
>>644
People seem fairly ignorant of what it actually takes to run a business.
And also sometimes offended that somebody tries to make a profit.

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489 No. 489 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Not me ;_;
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>>489
this fear is common in the anime community, and has been brought up many times. but the fact that this fear is so commonplace should reassure you. a big reason anime fans like anime is because of the ethos which is so distant from the ethos of the west. if they were to significantly change anime to make it more PC then it would alienate the majority of its audience while appeasing a tiny minority that only exists in western nations.

>>506

every anime fan i know hates official dubs (excluding nostalgia ones like cowboy bebop) and i would argue dubbed anime is aimed towards more casual western fans and as such, this PC fucking garbage jammed into the anime is meant to appeal to this audience. however, those casual western fans make up a small fraction of the global market. as such these fears that anime will be poisoned is not realistic.

we all just get into a panic when we think our loli girls are at risk.

the issues that are poisoning the gaming community will not spread to anime in the same way. the videogame issues refered to in this thread pertain purely to what is happening in the western market, where trends are set by western compaines making games aimed at westerners which are subject to western evaluation and censorship. the horrifying shit going on in this facet of the media world is not indicative of what is going on in the anime world.

tldr; don't worry, our lolis are safe
>> No. 628 [Edit]
Well it's finally here and it's fucking gay. There were two main goals of animegate: to stop censorship of anime/otaku media before it starts, and to cleanse to otaku community of posers and ironic weebs. Both, so far, have not been successful.
Most of the people involved in this movement are posers and ironic weebs. Hell, I actually saw a tweet where these neckbeards, claiming to be a part of animegate, were defending this Stacy from "harassment". So basically, instead of kicking out posers, animegaters are encouraging them and it's fucking frustrating.
The only good thing coming out of this movement is that Vic Mignogna is receiving support after being falsely accused of rape. Other than that, this movement needs to get it's shit together.
>>492
>Kardashian
I remember that tweet (or tweets rather). I remember everyone in the online community I was a part of, were PISSED and were saying that it was the beginning of the end. Shortly after that tweet, I began seeing normalfags use anime as a social statement by changing their yt icons to anime girls and posing with katanas. Then, anime ops and eds began to skyrocket in views. Where there used to be around one to two million turned into twelve to twenty million. Anime became the "cool kid thing" and it pissed every otaku off because these were the same kinds of people that would kick their ass in highschool for watching anime. And then, of course, this led to companies already beginning to try to sanitize anime to make it PC and easy to swallow.
We wouldn't have to have these online mobs or "gates" if we simply knew how to tell these posers to fuck off. The metal scene in the 80s did a pretty good job of it, see we need to learn from them.
>> No. 629 [Edit]
>>628
>Well it's finally here and it's fucking gay.
It is? What is? before seeing this thread I don't think I'd have known something called "animegate" existed. In my eyes, not really much has changed lately, so how does this affect anyone side from those keeping close eyes on celebrity twitter accounts or what have you. I still have a real hard time believing anime is the "cool kid thing" now.
>> No. 632 [Edit]
>>628
>I actually saw a tweet
>I remember that tweet (or tweets rather).
>Most of the people involved in this movement are posers and ironic weebs

you've clearly got a social media obsession just like the rest of norman society, how certain are you that you're not part of the problem the you're complaining about?

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567 No. 567 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
This country is not only financially bankrupt but morally as well. This nation has become a den of depravity debauchery, greed, gluttony and degenerate behavior. Worst part is, people here actually take pride in it. It's a place where bad is good, where people think it's cool to be a trouble making hoodlum. A common saying is that rules are made to be broken. People here have no respect for anything, but of course they'll demand it all the same.

Meanwhile you have this wide spread hug box mentality where everyone is over sensitive and easily offended. you aren't allowed to be mean or say anything hurtful, question anyone's life styles, or really disapprove of anything. The modern day treatment of racism makes a complete mockery of everything people fought so hard for just decades ago. They call this the land of the free in spite of the fact it's economy was founded on black slave labor, the transit system and expansion was built on the backs of Chinese, meanwhile Americans systematically slaughtered the natives to the point of near extinction while destroying their culture and breaking their spirit, turning them into fat drunken drugged up wastes of human lives. Only to then oppress women too in the many years that followed. Land of the free my ass. Used to be racism meant segregated bathrooms or not allowing blacks into schools. Racism was refusing to hire or sell to someone based on their race. Now people call you racist if you ask someone their race, if you don't have x amount of colored people working for you, if you say "colored people" or even say "black people". They want you to say "African American" enough though many black people here have never been to Africa or have any ties to the continent. Used to be it was sexist to not allow women to vote or drive, now you get called sexist for telling a girl she looks good that day. They'll even call games sexist if the girls in them look cute and not fat/ugly like themselves. Just mistaking a person of one race for another will get you labeled as racist, as if to put you in the same boat as kkk members who burn crosses in front of people's homes.

People here are paranoid to insane degrees about anything that might harm their children and baby them to an extreme while banning everything in sight that so much
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>> No. 615 [Edit]
>>24094
That's just how imageboard debates (hell all debates) work. Anon will cherry pick a few points from each other's arguments to in order to invalidate the overall message or stance of the person. You can say 99 things out of a 100 right, but people will rip into you for that 1 thing you got wrong.

I agree this should be moved to /tat/ by the way.
>> No. 616 [Edit]
>>24095
Then don't make 100 complaints at once and be shocked when the contentious ones are protested against
>> No. 617 [Edit]
>>616
Who's shocked? I'm just telling him like it is.
>> No. 618 [Edit]
Also to the people reading this on /tat/, a lot of the frustrated replies are from people upset this was posted on /so/.

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460 No. 460 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Food production is a big issue for the world. Food shortages, booming population, deteriorating croplands are usually the reason for the collapse of many earlier civilizations... And now the whole world is feeling the same kind of pressure. It's hard to feed so many people. I read a book called "full planets, empty plates" by lester brown, i thought it was a good book... it has a sense of dread and urgency, makes me feel like the problem is beyond our saving.

There are too many humans on earth. The eternal struggle to reproduce. How do you feel about all of this?
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>> No. 503 [Edit]
I think the biggest problem is going to be the spread of "the western diet" with the increasing wealth in poorer countries, which means an increase in consumption of meat. We're already seeing it with China, but if projections are correct then it is going to spread to places like India(possibly, religion may effect it there), South-east Asia, and Africa in the coming decades. Meat is far less efficient than crops and vegetables, not to mention that livestock are major producers of greenhouse gasses.
>> No. 516 [Edit]
>>503
Indians mostly eat chicken, and SEA Asians are freaking out about their health and only eating fish.
Meat is just as efficient as vegetables, otherwise we would not be evolutionarily inclined to eat it. That is, it provides much more calories the body needs per gram than vegetables.
>> No. 546 [Edit]
Read the book Can Life Prevail? by Pentti Linkola for more info about deep ecology and overpopulation. Technological Slavery by Ted Kaczynski is another good book which critiques modern industrialism and cultural issues. The Collapse of Western Civilization by Erik M. Conway and Naomi Oreskes is also okay (it's about climate change), though it has an annoyingly liberal slant to it. Linkola's brand of right-wing ecology and advocacy for small and sustainable communities is nicer, in my opinion.

Capitalism and democracy will be the death of humanity. We will continue to consume unsustainably and increase our numbers if we don't make drastic changes to society.
>> No. 560 [Edit]
The issue as I see it will not be a lack of food but the type of food. Meat takes much more to produce than rice or wheat does, if it ever came to such that we were facing food shortages the answer would be to stop producing meat in as large amounts.

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458 No. 458 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Don't you think it's just a little suspicious that the first nation to get a drug bust, in the Korean Winter Olympics, was Japan?
>> No. 548 [Edit]
There were olympics this year huh?
>> No. 549 [Edit]
>>548
Glad to know I wasn't the only one who paid basically zero attention to it. It feels like it was barely mentioned in general.

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538 No. 538 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
you ever think of all the humans in the past that struggled so hard for whatever cause they believed in? and now they're all gone like dust in the wind.

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493 No. 493 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
do you ever worry that certain elements of society misinterpret the enthusiasm we express for 2d girls and think that it somehow means that we value human females in the same way? does drooling over anime cuties empower feminists?
>> No. 494 [Edit]
>does drooling over anime cuties empower feminists?
They might be delusional and insane, but "anime cuties" display a type of female that psychotic feminists hate. Those girls are in good physical shape, they're well liked with good personalities and style, and purity to match.
Feminists tend to be fat whorish entitled nasty bitches. What anime girls represent is 'possible' for women, but it takes a lot of work to stay fit and take care of yourself among other things. Most of them are too far gone anyway to ever be decent people. So instead it's easier to just lash out with bitterness and hate, call anime girls whores and unrealistic standards, and claim the men who like them are pathetic sexist pigs virgin losers ect. If they had it their way they'd ban anime, or make all anime women masculine fat sluts with shaved heads.
>> No. 500 [Edit]
No. Women hate being compared to idealized females, real people are imperfect and ultimately shitty.
This is also why fujoshi almost never have boyfriends, noone can match up to what is designed to be perfectly attractive instead of to function in the real world. Men resent competing with fictional characters, same as women.
The queers seem to be more of a mixed bag, as usual. Some gay men read yaoi or crossdress cosplay, I've seen some lesbians identify with lesbian characters.
2D girls and guys are closer to religious idols than people, they are superior yet incomplete imitations of people, that's why some people adore them and other people mock them.
Whatever happens with this supposed Animegate nonsense, the truth will be buried in insults, attacks, and lies from both sides.
>> No. 530 [Edit]
>>494

Yeah this is why feminists nowadays latch to cartoons with animesque elements instead since cartoon females are as ugly, if not more so, than themselves.

SJWs love to see themselves "represented" on fictional media for reasons I just don't get, Anime is aspirational and idealistic, so it represents what the Japanese people value as ideal.

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467 No. 467 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
The Korean War, and I guess the Vietnam War, would technically be civil wars wouldn't they?
>> No. 468 [Edit]
yes and so was the communist revolution in tibet
>> No. 501 [Edit]
Technically, both the Galactic Civil War and the Clone Wars were civil wars.

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409 No. 409 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is earth flat, round, or upside down?
>> No. 422 [Edit]
Didn't all the flat earth people come out and admit it was just a huge practical joke?
>> No. 483 [Edit]
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the earth is round and hollow

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374 No. 374 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Did you know that, ever since the US forced Japan to do Democracy, the Japanese have elected the Liberal Democratic Party 95% of the time?
That means the LDP has been in government ever since 1945, with only maybe two exceptions.

What ever the Americans had hoped Democracy would do, I don't think they achieved it.
>> No. 375 [Edit]
It's more difficult for East Asians to accept individualistic features into their societies. I think it's probably biological. Also reinforced by thousands of years of cultural development.
>> No. 451 [Edit]
Every time another party or coalition gets power, they royally mismanage the whole thing.

Murayama statement, which Japan is still dealing with since any apology is considered an admission of national guilt, Hatoyama who was and is an impotent lunatic with a batshit insane wife and fucked with the SOFA, Kan, who mismanaged the 3/11 disaster so spectacularly you would think he was doing it on purpose. DPJ is a laughing stock for a reason.

If the opposition were hellbent on making your country a defenseless shithole that can't recover from the disasters that the country is known to be prone to, you would vote for the only party with a competent track record, too, instead of the Yoko Ono style whackjobs who live in some sort of land where putting flowers in QBZ-95 rifles does anything.
>> No. 453 [Edit]
>>451
I find it interesting how the LDP is practically guaranteed victory but tax money still has to be spent to put on the show of Democracy.
Mottai nai, yet they have to do it because of the foreign, military enforced constitution.


Also just saw this:
>From the 1950s through the 1970s, the United States Central Intelligence Agency spent millions of dollars attempting to influence elections in Japan to favor the LDP against more leftist parties such as the Socialists and the Communists,[14][15] although this was not revealed until the mid-1990s when it was exposed by The New York Times.[16]
The irony.

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