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380 No. 380 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
What are some thing you believe that most people wouldn't agree with, or would possibly get upset about if you told them how you really feel about it?
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>> No. 1022 [Edit]
>>1020
Western cartoons were never attractive, it has nothing to do with 'reliability'. It's just a difference in design philosophy, western cartoons were always caricatures of things rather than what Japan would create which was an ideal of beauty.
>> No. 1038 [Edit]
This isn't so much a controversial opinion, as it is just me not getting something. I've been reading about MacArthurs relief, and I just can't wrap my head around it. The writer of the book is a pretty big Truman fan and the way he's phrasing it, the reader is supposed to agree with the decision yet I'm having trouble understanding what MacArthur is supposed to have done wrong. Is it just plain writers bias or am I suffering an intellectual breakdown? Because the only thing MacArthur seems to have gotten a little too crazy in was suggesting to use nuclear fallout to contaminate the river between china and Korea.
>> No. 1039 [Edit]
The social market economy and the nordic model are absolutely not the end-game of "development" of countries nor even is the concept of "development" in that sense valid in the first place. There is this rather alarming view in europe that their model of economic regulation and social inequality compensation is the ideal, and that all countries should strive towards it. That those who don't, should be made to, and those who resist are wrong and evil. Maybe in the context of 20th century europe, they are centrist, but in the context of the history of the world they are very fringe. I do not like the fact that there even exist parties in my country that want to move us towards the social market economy or some limited aspects of the nordic model, I know from discussing with Europeans that they REALLY believe that their model of government and social regulation is the ideal, the norm, and their patronizing attitude and shock towards the United States and other countries for culturally resisting it really gets under my skin. I mean, the people I was talking too used so much actual socialist rhetoric "income inequality is inhumane, capitalism is bad, social welfare should be the default and enforced" that I wonder if I'm just talking to people who are considered far-left in the E.U. and that they badly misrepresented the consensus due to either malice or genuine ignorance. If not, WW2 really mind-broke them.
>> No. 1040 [Edit]
>>1039
Socialism works when you have a small, hard-working, law-abiding, intelligent population. Eurofags are only mistaken in their delusional belief that everybody can meet these criteria.

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1036 No. 1036 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Over the last two weeks I've had an inordinate amount of free-time, a lot of which I wasted torturing myself by exposing my mind to normalfag neurotoxins because I'm masochistic, self-destructive and frustrated by my complete inability to control the enviroment around me. The result of all this was a list I made about feminism. So lets talk about it to heal our addled minds and restore a bit of sanity.

Feminism, regardless of whatever someone's nonsensical personal interpretation of it, tends to have a few common tenets:

1. There is a patriarchy, a society-wide, concerted effort to keep woman down. Every man who does not "fight it" is part of the patriarchy.

2. Promoting feminism is the way to promote general equality. If society reached "peak feminism" there would be no issues that disproportionately affect either sex. Quality of life and happiness will also certainly be higher for everybody.

3. Women are a victimized class of people today and in the western first world. They are victimized more so than men. Feminism cannot exist unless woman are "the victims" and will never become obsolete because the goalposts will be perpetually changing.

4. Human beings are born blank slates. There are no innate psychological differences between men and women that tend to occur. If there are any exceptions to a potential trend, that proves that the trend does not exist. (extension of Marxism)

5. Feminism cannot be characterized by the words and actions of individuals or groups with money and power who identify as feminist. It is only characterized by vague, theoretical ideas.

6. Women are not a hive mind and are all unique individuals who can not be generalized in any way, but they should have a strong sense of group identity and work towards common interests. "Sisterhood" and individualism are somehow not contradictory. A shared victimhood should be the unifying factor among women.
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>> No. 1037 [Edit]
>>1036
>5. Feminism cannot be characterized by the words and actions of individuals or groups with money and power who identify as feminist. It is only characterized by vague, theoretical ideas.
This seems to apply to communism as well. In the real world, communists define what communism it to the world, not vague and ever shifting true scotsmen.

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867 No. 867 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I'm worried. They're already here in Europe. It makes no sense.
How do you feel about it?
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>> No. 1031 [Edit]
>>1030
It was extremely cool.
>> No. 1032 [Edit]
>>1031
Was it really? Only a small percentage of people entered the Capitol, and those that were in it didn't do anything of note. And as far as I know, only two people are dead--one of whom under uncertain circumstances. This whole situation feels like it's overblown. I was hoping for an insurrection, but what I got was merely a crazed mob. This shouldn't even register on the HAPPENING scale. I'll reiterate: Why can't anything cool happen?
>> No. 1033 [Edit]
>>1032
If you're going to risk your life for some protesting, you may as well get a free TV out of it.
>> No. 1035 [Edit]
>>1033
Nobody should risk their lives for protesting. Maybe for revolutions, but certainly not for whatever that tepid shit was.

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85 No. 85 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
In your own words; what makes women today unbearable?
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>> No. 250 [Edit]
>>95
and all that amazing clothing is 1: impossibly expensive and 2: in bits and pieces spread all over the place. guys can wear pretty clothes too, but almost none of them do either; just surviving is hard enough a lot of the time. richness is requisite to having the time and money for clothes.

>>102
>>130
and what're you both doing right now? everybody has problems and everybody likes to whine; you're seeing one side as annoying and the other as cathartic.

>>132
and this is how my brother reacts when i make food as well. anecdotes, creatures of habit, etc etc.
>> No. 1023 [Edit]
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1023
It's not them but society that's unbearable. Men and women are both terrible, but in different, distinct ways. Women however are legally and culturally enabled to be monstrously selfish in their manner, but nobody will ever be honest about this in a public space. Ever. It's frustrating when the only thing you can do about the giant wasps surrounding you is try to ignore them. I really wish there was something I could do about it. I want to be a space alien free from all this shit on Earth.
>> No. 1024 [Edit]
>>85
They act like their shit don't stink, and everyone else has to pretend it don't too.
>> No. 1026 [Edit]
>>250
>impossibly expensive
I don't see how wearing a simple skirt and boots would be more expensive than wearing big brand sneakers and a hoodie.
>guys can wear pretty clothes too, but almost none of them do either
I do. Plus maybe a lot of guys want to dress more formal or whatever but are afraid to get made fun of women, who generally care more about what's 'fashionable' than what actually looks good so they'll just go with whatever is the safest option. No one will make fun of a woman dressing feminine.

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1007 No. 1007 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
If China takes over the whole world, what do you think would change? Do you think there's anything that would be improved? What would it look like?
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>> No. 1009 [Edit]
>>1008
Xiexie pengyou. 0.5¥ has been deposited in your account.

>what do you think would change?
Great firewall goes global. Countries are intellectually pillaged and knowledge is systematically extracted and transferred wholesale (*). There's an attempt to make Chinese the dominant language.
>Do you think there's anything that would be improved
Yes, there are advantages to having a strong central government since it means you can execute plans unilaterally. For instance, see Singapore as an example of how this can work well. But that's also a disadvantage because the plans they choose to execute aren't always good for you (nor may they be good for the country in the long-term).

(*) More than it's already being done. I mean we already welcome Chinese by the boatload into graduate programs, and it's not exactly a well-kept secret that some non-trivial fraction of these people are people with connections to the CPP who come to unis and enroll in EE/CS/Bio PhD programs to spy on and pilfer assets when available. And while research would be published openly anyway, integrating yourself into the academic systems gives you a good vantage point to scope out valuable assets: from trends to industry connections.
>> No. 1010 [Edit]
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1010
>>1009
That's all well and good, but what about culture? Would they stop putting effort into stuff that makes them seem more "normal" like anime related stuff, or would they expand on that? Also religion, would people be forced into being less religious, would their moral values change in any way?
>> No. 1011 [Edit]
>>1010
>Would they stop putting effort into stuff that makes them seem more "normal" like anime related stuff
They'd probably continue to do it to make themselves more friendly and palatable. It's also a cheap method of exerting and maintaining soft power.

>forced into being less religious
They seem to hate falun gong and uighurs but I think that's because within China, they don't want any organized opposing force (not sure why they hate falun gong in particular since it just seems like a blend of taoism/buddhism). I don't they would particularly care about exerting control over religions in other regions since it really doesn't pose much of an issue to them.

Overall the changes would be done very slowly. E.g. rather than mandating Chinese from the start, they would first gradually increase foreigners' exposure to hanzi, and then slowly introduce it in the school curriculum, and so by two or three generations it would come to be ingrained in the culture as the defacto medium for communication. Although when we're speaking about that long of a timescale it really depends on how the successor of Xi will take things; because as I understand it there are various factions still trying to gain control.
>> No. 1025 [Edit]
>>1010
>>1011
>Also religion, would people be forced into being less religious
The Chinese today seem to be embracing traditional Chinese religions more and co-opting it to work with the already-existing Communist system, so as to fill the spiritual void of the modern Chinese. I think they may make some attempt to spread things like Confucianism and Taoism, as people will feel more intrigued by the more exotic aspects of their society than by the boring, soulless Marxist aspects. Xi Jinping
The Chinese governments is also attempting to forcefully reform other religions like Christianity or Islam, to make it work with the political system, by creating their own edited/censored versions of the Bible for example.

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798 No. 798 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What do you think japan and it's culture would be like today if it stayed out of WW2?
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>> No. 969 [Edit]
People seem to forget that Japan was culturally genociding the Koreans and really killing others at the time.
>> No. 1004 [Edit]
>>968
That's simply impossible since the state ideology of Imperial Japan, State-Shinto, was religious in nature. Japan staying out the war or winning the war would have meant a strengthening of its native religious traditions (Shinto) and a weakening of all foreign doctrines, including Buddhism, which wass already happening prior to the war.
That and the fact that Christianity had already been present in Japan for centuries and never managed to spread outside of these obscure little communities.
>> No. 1005 [Edit]
>>969
Korean culture is shit so that's okay.
Chinese killed more of each other during their civil war than Japan did in their war against them.
>> No. 1006 [Edit]
>>825
>Age is irrelevant
'They cannot believe that there are cultural values that are the result of centuries of historical development, which cannot simply be bought. It was no bad joke when, after the war, they bought the ruins of German castles and moved them stone by stone to the U.S.A. They really thought that they had purchased a piece of national history embodied in stone, and were naive enough to think that mocking laughter from Europe was respect for the wealth that enabled them to buy what their own tradition and culture lacked'.

'Although we affirm the technical achievements of our age, we see behind them an intellectual strength that grows from the roots of our people. Machines are a means to an end, not an end in themselves. As much as we appreciate the achievements of modern civilization and use them to improve life, we know that they are not the sole meaning of life. There are national values that are the result of centuries of history and tradition. They cannot be purchased, only built by the labor of generations'.

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986 No. 986 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
This thread is for talking about the general trend of certain fields of science becoming more focused on supporting pre-existing, politically correct ideas than observing reality.

Today I looked at the wikipedia article on Mongoloid and noticed how bereft of information it is. Then I looked at the talk page and I think I finally get why some people hate wikipedia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Mongoloid

The Japanese version of the article on the other hand is still full of info https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/モンゴロイド
The Chinese version is sparse, but based on my translator, the opening paragraph mentions higher IQs in East Asian children than European and African ones. It also links to this https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/101410v6
>Using improved methods and public data, we have revisited human evolution and found sharing of genetic variations among racial groups to be largely a result of parallel mutations rather than recent common ancestry and admixture as commonly assumed.

The Japanese race article https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/人種 has a section about dna which includes charts and plenty of references to Chinese and Japanese studies. There is no Chinese or Japanese version of the Scientific racism article.
>> No. 987 [Edit]
>>986
Social sciences always had an undertone of politics. Sadly even biology/medicine is starting to fall under its sway.

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374 No. 374 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Did you know that, ever since the US forced Japan to do Democracy, the Japanese have elected the Liberal Democratic Party 95% of the time?
That means the LDP has been in government ever since 1945, with only maybe two exceptions.

What ever the Americans had hoped Democracy would do, I don't think they achieved it.
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>> No. 982 [Edit]
>>981
Unless they start doing things like allowing foreigners to use kanji names, there's still going to be a de-facto separation of foreigners/natives.
>> No. 983 [Edit]
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983
historically Japan likes cute from the start which is why Bokko will always be better received than garbage like Minnie Mouse and the only reason westerners complained over Minnie looking sexy in that fashion commercial is because the west is a mentally ill culture, after all the west celebrates fat women.
>> No. 984 [Edit]
>>983
>the west celebrates fat women.
I'd say it's something that a lot of people here are reluctantly forced to live with. Yes there are some people who claim to like it, but for every one who does I think there's another who's only saying as much to hopefully win some favor. I refuse to believe everyone here is okay with it. I see average sized men with women twice their size all the time, and I wonder to myself how these guys don't mind that. Call me vain but I think physical attraction is half of a relationship, and you can't have a healthy relationship if the sight of your partner naked makes you want to vomit.
I think it's something men here accept because there's not much choice. They want companionship, but they can't be picky. When most of the women are like this and complaining would get you ostracized, they must feel like there's no alternative.
Ironically, these same men would consider someone like me pathetic for not giving in and taking whatever I can get.
>> No. 985 [Edit]
>>984
>Yes there are some people who claim to like it, but for every one who does I think there's another who's only saying as much to hopefully win some favor.
It seems like it's a commitment thing. Very few guys actually prefer fat girls and if you dig down into those who claim to it's because "they try harder" or "are more loyal". I've seen women use the same logic to justify dating someone far larger than them. I can understand the visual appeal of chubby but these people try to talk people who are downright obese into being sexy when fat fetishism is really rare. Just look at porn and then look at the amount of self proclaimed "chubby chasers". It's gross that people view a partner fatter than them as a plus because they "try harder" and "won't leave". The extreme of this is feederism but you see the same thing play out in a much lighter way all the time.

Polite sage for off topic.

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409 No. 409 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Is earth flat, round, or upside down?
>> No. 422 [Edit]
Didn't all the flat earth people come out and admit it was just a huge practical joke?
>> No. 483 [Edit]
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483
the earth is round and hollow
>> No. 966 [Edit]
Earth in Chinese and Japanese is written as 地球. The characters are ground and ball. It was coined by somebody who lived in the sixteenth century. Irrefutable proof that it's round.
>> No. 967 [Edit]
>>966
They must be part of the conspiracy as well then.

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660 No. 660 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Regardless of :

-age

-gender

-skin colour

-political views

-nationality

-religion

Most people in every country in the world is just uninteresting and boring .
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>> No. 943 [Edit]
>>941
Apparently you yourself did not understand what I meant in my post, so I'll spell it out for you: I'm under no delusion of my self worth, I am among or indeed even am the most worthless of humans to ever live in history. Wow, holy shit, what a big fucking ego, that's definitely what I said or suggested in any way in the slightest in any of my posts. Because I hate normal people that must mean I think I'm better than them, right? Even though that's the metric by which I hate them? Bottom line is either kill me so I don't have to live in the same world as them or kill all of them.
>> No. 945 [Edit]
>>943
Yes, i didn't understand what you meant in your post, it had seemed as if you mockingly quoted my post when actually you were quoting yourself. We'll forget about those two posts and continue with the discussion. Still you did not understand my post about vanity which meant that all pursuits and interests are vanity. Throwing a ball around and thinking about philosophy are the same at the end of the day because both are vanity. What does it matter if someone is extraordinary or normal? Both of them will die in the end. Unless you have included yourself in the category of boring uninteresting people, which you have definitely implied you aren't in, then yes you do think you're better than other people. Your interests are no better than anyone elses because interest is subjective. If someone likes football trivia and talks to another person with the same interest, then that is an interesting conversation (relative to the participants), regardless of whether you are interested or not.
>> No. 946 [Edit]
>>945
There's nothing wrong with vanity. There's also other metrics to compare one interest to another, like how mentally strenuous it is, or how disconnected it is from reality. It seems like you're trying to make some nihilistic point about equality. I don't really buy it.
>> No. 950 [Edit]
>>945
>which meant that all pursuits and interests are vanity.
in the abstract yes, but it is the nature of groups that I in the group that hates football will also be seen as similarly dull and uninteresting by those who play football, the point ultimately is that from the point of view of those in the same group as me there is no purpose to interacting with a foreign and hostile group.
>What does it matter if someone is extraordinary or normal? Both of them will die in the end.
The purpose is self-determined, just as you determined to spend time making the post. All choices in this regard are objectively equal, I agree, but very little of human existence is governed by consideration of the objective.
>Both of them will die in the end. Unless you have included yourself in the category of boring uninteresting people, which you have definitely implied you aren't in
The point I meant to imply is that I am not in the category of people who are exciting and interesting to other people, which is to say that they are the opposite to me just as I am boring and uninteresting to them. Because they hate me I hate them, that's the crux of the matter, and I wouldn't have it any other way, I'd sooner die than be one of them.
>If someone likes football trivia and talks to another person with the same interest, then that is an interesting conversation (relative to the participants), regardless of whether you are interested or not.
Objectively, sure. Subjectively, I'd wish they'd die so they'd leave me alone.

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691 No. 691 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I made a thread on a Christian forum for fun. I don't have any problem with them, it's just interesting, but you can see how anything you say to them rolls off like water on a leaf. They can't seem to accept human similarities with animals. They're really convinced we're the most important thing in the universe. It's like they're stuck in this little box. They know a lot about the bible and that's about it. I'm not "debating" them or anything. Why do you think people get stuck in these bubbles?

https://christianforums.net/Fellowship/index.php?threads/a-few-questions-from-an-open-minded-agnostic.80190/
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>> No. 722 [Edit]
>>721
You're acting like an animal right now, whether you like it or not. In any social situation you may find yourself in, everyone acts like an animal. We are animals. There is no distancing yourself from it. You don't even know what acting like an animal means.

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>> No. 723 [Edit]
>>722
>In any social situation you may find yourself in, everyone acts like an animal
I tend to act like a plant: a wallflower.
>> No. 788 [Edit]
>>691
>Why do you think people get stuck in these bubbles?
Because Christians are stupid.
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>> No. 917 [Edit]
>>788
this.

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