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148 No. 148 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I'm an extremely important person and you should listen to what I say because I post my political opinions on Tohno-Chan

prove me wrong
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>> No. 151 [Edit]
>>150
Probably the board in general.
>> No. 152 [Edit]
>>151
Is there a purpose in making goofy strawman arguments directed at people posting on a hidden board?
>> No. 153 [Edit]
>>152
You would think that Hitler was right, wouldn't you? You sicken me.
>> No. 154 [Edit]
>>153
well...

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142 No. 142 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Lets pretend you are given 10 trillion dollars with which to make the world a better place. What do you do?
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>> No. 145 [Edit]
>>143
>giving women voting rights when they still have the social and legal responsibilities of children
To be fair, I don't consider most people in general to be responsible voters. In my country it's even the law that you must vote. If people voted intelligently based on reducing the influence of others on their lives instead of for whoever jerked them off the most, then we wouldn't be in this situation.

>allowing leftover stigma from Nazi Germany to forever equate legitimate (and at this point in the game incredibly necessary) non-lethal eugenics with genocide
Read Article II my man:

General Assembly Resolution 260 (III). Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily of mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
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>> No. 146 [Edit]
>>145
>I don't consider most people in general to be responsible voters.
Neater does the US government. That's why voting rights were originally restricted to just white male land owners. Even after caving into demands from the common folk over time they still don't trust the people to vote for it's own leaders. As such we have an electoral college that to my understanding has representatives for each state with their votes being the only ones that matter. Depending on the state's laws, they may or may not look at what people in their state voted for and decide to vote the same way. In a number of states they have every right to ignore the popular vote and vote for who they see fit. In a sense, voting is just a means for commoners to ask the higher ups to vote the way they want.
>> No. 147 [Edit]
step 1: buy tc for $10trillion
step 2: delete this thread
step 3: world's richest man is tohno, i blackmail him with embarrassing screencaps for free money
>> No. 149 [Edit]
>>145
>To be fair, I don't consider most people in general to be responsible voters.
While I also agree with this, to imply that the female voting bloc hasn't devastated the western world is naïve at best and ignorant at worst. Giving anyone power without responsibility is a terrible idea.

>Read Article II
This article was created after World War 2 and included a ban on non-lethal eugenics as you pointed out. That's exactly what I was getting at. Nobody saw non-lethal eugenics as "taboo" before Nazi Germany.

>I think that one should strive to be morally correct. The difference here is that I don't try and impose my morals on those around me.
The problem is that morals are not and never have been objective. There are very, very few codes of ethics that are universally agreed upon by all groups of people across the planet. And when you mix very different groups of people together, conflict is inevitable. Look at the United States currently: even people of the same race in the same nation WILL force their morals upon each other, using violence as a means of subjugation for non-conformity if necessary.

>The fact that you hold the concept of nation so highly speaks of your own morals being focused in that direction.
I think that's a bit of a stretch and an assumption. In an ideal world I merely see separate nations being respectful of each other as an easy means to "get people to leave each other damn well alone", as you put it. And I'd agree with that being a great goal if you could somehow manage it.

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109 No. 109 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
American education depends on witholding testimony and evidence contrary to the great moral quagmire of justifying the use of atomic weapons on highly concentrated civilian centers within days of each other, on a country incapable of feeding itself or launching a significant strategic counter attack, which had already been seeking to enter peace negotiations since May of the previous year.

No major American General or Admiral was involved in the executive order to drop the bombs. If they had been, chances are the bombs would not have been dropped. MacArthur himself, the man who had been involved in the brunt of the fighting against Japan, and who had just recently liberated his troops from prisoner of war camps after the Bataan march, said the bombs were not necessary, and that diplomacy which would result in the same outcome, would have precluded and circumvented an invasion, kept Soviet Russia out of Japan, and ended the war.

If even the men who lead the fight against Japan agree that the bombs were not justified, why does "common knowledge" in the US justify it?
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>> No. 138 [Edit]
The whole war by America against Japan was because FDR was a Sinophile.
FDR wanted China as a puppet-state in Asia.

'The outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937 saw aid flow into the Republic of China, from the United States under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. A series of Neutrality Acts had been passed in the US with the support of isolationists who forbade American aid to countries at war. Because the Second Sino-Japanese War was undeclared, however, Roosevelt denied that a state of war existed in China and proceeded to send aid to Chiang'
>> No. 139 [Edit]
China's war-plan was to keep fighting, knowing they cannot win, to garner Western sympathy and have the West beat Japan because China certainly could not.

'A major reason that the Chinese army held onto the city as long as it did, even though it was on the brink of collapse, was that China was hoping for a western intervention in the Sino-Japanese War.'
'Thus, Chiang Kai-shek had to devote everything China had to offer to make sure the Western powers know that the present conflict between China and Japan was a major war, not a collection of inconsequential "incidents" as had been the case previously. Based on this political strategy, Chiang Kai-shek had to order his troops to fight to the death in an attempt to arouse international sympathy and cause the international community to adopt measures that would help China and sanction Japan.'
'In addition, on October 5, President Franklin D. Roosevelt gave the Quarantine Speech, calling for the United States to help nations fight against aggressor nations. This speech had a tremendous effect on raising China's morale.'
>> No. 140 [Edit]
>>138
>>139
So America was not 'neutral' in the slightest, before Pearl Harbor, as is commonly thought.
>> No. 141 [Edit]
Also, the Japanese POW camps were manned by Korean soldiers. So most POW abuse, in Japanese POW camps, is actually from Koreans.


'After the war, 148 Koreans were convicted of Class B and C Japanese war crimes, 23 of whom were sentenced to death, including Korean prison guards who were particularly notorious for their brutality during the war.'

'The figure is relatively high considering that ethnic Koreans made up a very small percentage of the Japanese military. Justice Bert Röling, who represented the Netherlands at the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, noted that "many of the commanders and guards in POW camps were Koreans – the Japanese apparently did not trust them as soldiers – and it is said that they were sometimes far more cruel than the Japanese."[58]'

'In his memoirs, Colonel Eugene C. Jacobs wrote that during the Bataan Death March, "the Korean guards were the most abusive. The Japs didn't trust them in battle, so used them as service troops; the Koreans were anxious to get blood on their bayonets; and then they thought they were veterans."[59][60]'

'Korean guards were sent to the remote jungles of Burma, where Lt. Col. William A. (Bill) Henderson wrote from his own experience that some of the guards overlooking the construction of the Burma Railway "were moronic and at times almost bestial in their treatment of prisoners. This applied particularly to Korean private soldiers, conscripted only for guard and sentry duties in many parts of the Japanese empire. Regrettably, they were appointed as guards for the prisoners throughout the camps of Burma and Siam."[61] The highest-ranking Korean to be prosecuted after the war was Lieutenant General Hong Sa-ik, who was in command of all the Japanese prisoner-of-war camps in the Philippines.'


Note:
U.S. laws of war
a. Crimes against peace.
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85 No. 85 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
In your own words; what makes women today unbearable?
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>> No. 132 [Edit]
I used to simply not care about women. I live with my sister now though and it's hell on Earth and I've come to view them with suspicion at best. One time I went through the effort of making a spice mix, marinading meat in it and making a kind of pilaf. Took me the better part of an afternoon because of the marinading phase, and when I serve dinner she doesn't even look up from her phone or eat what I put a lot of effort into, and then 15 minutes later when she's done texting her friends or whatever, moans that it's cold and ends up not eating any.

It's the same whenever I make anything, though often it's more 'oh I won't like that/don't know what it is so I won't eat it'. It's not even something like knowing she won't like it, it's usually that I've used something that isn't chicken and a jar of sauce. It's happened when I've made dumplings, when I've made puddings, curries you name it. I'm not asking for much, it's not like I'm cooking up lamb's fry or some other kind of offal, which I do have an awesome recipe for that she'd like if she would try it mind you, I'm just asking for her to eat some pretty inoffensive food, and appreciate that I put some effort into it. I don't cook from a jar. The opposite is true if I'm not feeling like dinner though. Then I'm a bad person for making her feel 'guilty' about cooking just for herself or some stupid bullshit like that. It really is a me me me mindset.

Normally I'm not one to go off like this about women online, I try to ignore them. But my sister returned from a holiday today and I got bitched at before I even got a hello.
>> No. 133 [Edit]
I don't think there is really any "today" about it OP. I don't even really think it's a problem with women to be honest. I think it's just that I can't stand shallowness or fakery, something embodied by many women. I can't stand it in men either; most people just aren't as bothered about it as me, or anyone else here I would wager.
>> No. 135 [Edit]
>>133
>I don't think there is really any "today" about it OP.

This is a good point. I've seen others elsewhere argue that women haven't changed, it's just that modern societies have recently given them carte blanche to do whatever they please without consequence. Only now that they have privilege without responsibility can we see their ugly nature so clearly.
>> No. 136 [Edit]
Similarly, I don't think that we are a modern phenomenon either. I'd wager most monks and hermits were just like us

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125 No. 125 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
If this board is to be "like /pol/", we absolutely must have a thread about Jews.

What do you think about Jews? Is the extent of their wealth and control over media troubling to you? Do you think they're actually behind the promotion of things like miscegenation and a poor education system (ie: Common Core) to keep the population at large easier to control, or do you think that's just a Stormfront conspiracy theory?

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>> No. 131 [Edit]
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I'll start the fire and reply.

I don't really care for them. I was raised in a Christian school so I came into contact with some of their... beliefs in detail. When I rejected Christianity I rejected all the desert religions since they're very closely related. But it didn't really hit me to reject Islam and Judaism as hard as Christianity until a few years ago though. And it's funny that it took so long. Most of the really bad, really dumb stuff in Christianity comes from the old testament. Something the Jews still largely abide by while Christians have (mostly) left it behind.

Then you look at what can be seen in the modern world. The way Jews treat the Palestinians, the way they warmonger, squandering American money and American blood. How the exact same Jew will call for opposing policies in Israel and America. For us mass immigration is some kind of blessing from god that works miracles on economy. So wonderful that all these countries are competing for unskilled workers... not. For Israel mass migration is a threat to their "Jewish essence". And just look at the way they treat foreigners. You'd think a group that went through the holocaust would be a bit kinder.

Then you look at all the "coincidences". All these Jewish groups and individuals supporting policy and practices that have eroded our culture, drained our wealth. Sent our soldiers to die for nothing in return. A lot of it's noise but how many do there have to be for at least some claims of conspiracy to seem credible?

It's interesting how much things change with time. Years ago if you told me I'd be entertaining the idea of Jewish conspiracies I'd laugh. I am not laughing anymore.

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8 No. 8 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
My religion > your religion.
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>>76
>invisible old man in space
Did you get all your knowledge about God from cartoons in the Sunday newspapers?
To have such an infantile attitude to the very idea of God, let alone how He may manifest or in what way he exists in this world is actually troubling. You've trivialized and misunderstood a concept that all civilizations have dedicated their best minds and thinkers to conquering, in a self righteous and profoundly stupid way.
Congratulations, you successfully skeeved me out.
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>>124
I am he who came into being in the form of the god Ḫ-P-R Ré, and I am the creator of that which came into being, that is to say, I am the creator of everything which came into being. Now the things which I created, and which came forth out of my mouth after that I had come into being myself were exceedingly many. Heaven had not come into being, the earth did not exist, and the children of the earth, and the creeping things had not been made at that time. I myself raised them up from out of Nûn, from a state of helpless inertness.
I found no place whereon I could stand. I worked a charm upon my own heart. I laid the foundation of things by Tme, and I made everything which had form. I was then one by myself, for I had not emitted from myself the god Shôu, and I had not spit out from myself the goddess Teféne; and there existed no other who could work with me. I laid the foundations of things in my own heart, and there came into being multitudes of created things, which came into being from the created things which were born from the created things which arose from what they brought forth.
I had union with my closed hand, and I embraced my shadow as a wife, and I poured seed into my own mouth.
>> No. 127 [Edit]
>>126
is it
>> No. 129 [Edit]
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>>127
He Is.

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112 No. 112 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How do you feel about the concept of global overpopulation?
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I'm not sure.
Definitely not everybody can live as we do-there simply aren't enough resources to sustain that. To me the question is not whether or not we will be globally overpopulated, it's whether or not we are bothered by the gross inequality in resource allocation and standard of living.
I personally couldn't give a damn (not being edgy I just genuinely do not care).

A problem I care more about is overcrowding in cities, mainly because it affects me directly. Having many people in one place is great up to a point, and after that it just gets worse the more people you cram into towers and tiny apartments. Traffic, noise, litter and pollution all get worse with more people. It's not like there isn't room for us all on the earth, but then again why would you settle in the middle of nowhere. I have no solution to this problem.
I'm not sure what my point is here
>> No. 121 [Edit]
It's a problem but the only countries that care are developed ones. Africa, south asia, etc just don't give a shit.

Slow, gradual depopulation is a good thing. Having that in developed nations while we send aid to subsidize others having children isn't. Especially because of the boomers and genx. They love the idea of throwing borders open because they've fucked their own futures by buying into pyramid schemes instead of finding methods to actually save money for old age. And beating on the young to take out their anger about their now bleak prospects. History won't be kind to them.

Pull back some of the food, medical, security aid from these perpetually poor countries and see how long they keep adding to the problem. They'll either suffer population collapses or also enter a slow decline.

>>115
Sustainability is a massive problem. I can't wait for this current way of life to come tumbling down. Maybe then children won't be seen as a fashion accessory and people will actually give a shit about the earth. Maybe they'll give a shit about their nation then. But without some form of crisis, a real crisis, fat chance of that happening on a society-wide level.
>> No. 122 [Edit]
>>121
Africa and South Asia aren't countries.
>> No. 123 [Edit]
>>122
"developed nations" isn't a nation either, it refers to a set of nations. My point still stands.

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105 No. 105 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What are your thoughts on genetically modified organism?
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>> No. 116 [Edit]
I hope they release new fruits and vegetables soon. It would be cool if they released the developer kit too so you could invent your own. And I think randomly mutating seeds is a bad idea but other methods of genetic modification seem okay. I also think there are some really unethical practices involved but that's a different thing that's more related to just the companies I guess.
>> No. 117 [Edit]
>>116
Also, are posts from hidden boards now showing up on the front page?
>> No. 118 [Edit]
>>105
So people like to cite those foods being bad for you in the long run, but I think it's sadly a necessarily evil. Buying organic in most cities is cost-prohibitive unless you are lucky enough to live with your parents, are in a good economical situation, or have some amazing deals with your local markets / marketplaces. For example, I could buy a sack of potatoes to make puree, or I could just buy those powdered ones that cost €0.20 the packet.
>>114
How can a country be a "cuckold"? It's unable to engage in a romantic relationship.
>>117
Apparently.
>> No. 120 [Edit]
I'm not sure about the science of it since it's one of those things that's going to have fudged science on all sides of the issue. So you can't really go off the "facts" since you're just picking facts that already support your kneejerk reaction.

As an idea though? I don't really like them. Every time mankind invents something it seems to result in a great deal of short-term happiness at the cost of long term misery. It's been that way since the industrial revolution. I don't see why GMO's would be any different. They can claim they're safe but how can we know really? Companies are out to make money and if people feel a bit too stressed economically the government will try and kick the ball down the street for the next generation. Borrow from the future so the present won't revolt.

And like >>114 said, we haven't seen any long term studies. They haven't been around long enough, so claiming to know is a bit of a folly.


>>118
It depends on what sort of thing you're buying. If you're going for 100% organic, no pesticides, 100% fresh. Then yeah, it's going to cost tons. If you just pick up say, a bag of frozen broccoli it's usually pretty fair.

Unfortunately you don't know if it's GMO or not since requiring a label on GMO products is some sort of great profit killing evil. If they're so great, so safe, why do these companies shirk back at the thought?

You can also get your food cost really low if you're willing to eat tons of dry foods. Like rice/beans/oats.

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35 No. 35 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How do you feel about females being on TC? Do you think their presence here negatively affects the post quality and atmosphere?

This is a legitimate question and in no way meant to disrespect Tohno nor the person he was discussing things with in the locked thread. I'm genuinely curious about how other users feel about this. I stopped browsing TC about two years ago, and looking back on it, the increase in female users was a large reason for it.

I agree with Tohno in that implementing a "men only" rule would be impractical, though I disagree in the oft-expressed sentiment that [3D] females can be the same as us or hold the same views as us. Even if they don't blatantly advertise their gender, the way all females conduct themselves is very similar. Their behavior in the past has oft been disruptive and somewhat stereotypical despite their apparent interest in similar hobbies. I'm not saying that they're better nor worse than us per se, but simply different- biologically, physiologically, and psychologically different- in a way that is very much not compatible with the general views and lifestyles that most of us hold here, regardless of their individual quirks as people.

But on that note, sometimes I wonder if I'm generalizing when I say "most of us", which is why I made this thread to ask. Are there still others here that would rather female users were kept to a minimum? I placed this thread in /tat/ instead of /fb/ because I'm not calling for any sort of changes, and I don't want to start a shitstorm on a visible board if it comes down to that.
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>> No. 71 [Edit]
>>68
No, I've read that. Thanks for asking though.
>> No. 72 [Edit]
>>70
>talking like a 14 year old 8chan user and shitting all over the site
Says the person making shitposts just to rage at someone's tone and using the term "mouthbreathing" unironically.

How do you know what /pol/ users sound like, anyway?
>> No. 73 [Edit]
>>70
Nice proxy, social justice-kun. I was wondering when youd resort to blatant name calling.
>> No. 84 [Edit]
>>55
Thanks for the citations. They were interesting reads.

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Prove me wrong.
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Everyone is better than me.
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>>75

I'm just putting the idea out there, I don't necessarily believe it.
>> No. 82 [Edit]
>>81
loli
>> No. 83 [Edit]
>>74
Come here and tell me that, I'll fuck you in your ass, you punk white boy! You faggot. You can't touch me, you're not man enough. I'll eat your asshole alive, you bitch. Fuck you, you hoe. Come and say it to my face.... I'll fuck your ass in front of everybody. You bitch! Come on, you BITCH! You're scared, coward. You're not man enough to fuck with me. You can't last two minutes in my world, bitch. Look at you scared now, you hoe.... scared like a little white pussy. Scared of the real man. I'll fuck you 'til you love me, faggot!

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30 No. 30 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
What's your stance on abortion?
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>> No. 32 [Edit]
I really don't care. I don't consider it murder, but I definitely don't think it's a "human rights issue" either. It's just another convenient excuse for western women to start up their tired "MUH BODY" tirades, showing everyone once again that they egotistically believe themselves to be the only person involved in the creation and nurturing of life.

It slows population growth a bit, and the genes it removes from the gene pool are always very low quality, so that's a plus.
>> No. 33 [Edit]
In my opinion, abortion should be law for prostitutes.

I've seen a couple of sad things thus far in life but nothing compares to the sight of a crackhead prostitute with a ballon-belly.

It's like i can predict, feel the suffering and pain of this chis child, even before being born.
>> No. 40 [Edit]
Glad it exists. Those who abort don't want their child. If they couldn't abort that child most likely wouldn't have a good life. Also there would be even more humans on earth. I don't agree with it being murder since it isn't a person yet.

Of course those children who aren't wanted would probably like to stay alive once they have a life, same with the disabled, they want to stay alive because that's the only chance they got regardless of how bad it is but the possible future doesn't really matter in my opinion, a fetus doesn't know what it'll lose if it gets aborted and we don't have any obligations to a thing with the potential of becoming a person, if we had, we'd be pretty fucked because we would have obligations to our sperm and we'd be killing a fuck ton of potential persons by not impregnating a woman every minute.

My mother didn't want me either by the way. She just has a moral problem with abortion.
>> No. 42 [Edit]
I wish I was aborted.

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