>No one takes responsibility for their wrong doings or admits guilt.
I agree fully but the worst thing about it is that it feels kind of hard to argue why this is wrong, making it something that is much easier to let slide for most people.
>people thought electing a greedy self absorbed billionaire known for making a spectacle of firing people on TV and costing countless people their jobs on a whim would somehow make for a good president and somehow make everything better.
I think a lot of people just did that as a meme, actually. Which kind of makes things even worse. I think it should be worth keeping in mind that the alternatives weren't too great either with perhaps the exception of that one guy that was called a cuck a lot for some reason but maybe there is something behind that. Though that may be giving his opposition too much credit.
It's kind of annoying when people say stuff about how great America is for winning wars or landing on the moon even though those were all quite a while ago.

Post edited on 6th Jan 2018, 11:19pm

>>23241
Oh please, just go live in Russia for a year and you'll be happy about your shitty life in America. In Russia you not only get all the disgusting shit and first-world problems you find in America, but you also have the worst that third world countries could offer too, and then people act like it's the best place in the world just because some dictator faggot is photoshopped riding on a bear.

'America is the only nation in history which miraculously has gone directly from barbarism to degeneration without the usual interval of civilization'.
- Georges Clemenceau


'I heard an Englishman, who had been long resident in America, declare that in following, in meeting, or in overtaking, in the street, on the road, or in the field, at the theatre, the coffee-house, or at home, he had never overheard Americans conversing without the word DOLLAR being pronounced between them'.
- Frances Trollope

>>23241
While mainstream American culture is absolutely horrible, America is still a free country, and therefore is what you make of it.
If you want wholesome family life and devotion to God, you can always join the Amish:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m64X1hMCJoE

Or if Christianity isn't your thing and you don't want to go quite so strictly low-tech, you could go join these neo-nazis:
https://youtu.be/I_yWxnXyh-8?t=33m40s
I truly envy Americans. Living like this would be impossible in my country, if for no other reason than that homeschooling is illegal here. Not to mention the fact that they'd all go to prison if they publicly spoke their mind about their political opinions.

>>23265
I can understand political persecution, but why would you want to homeschool your kids? Unless, you live in an area with lots of children, that's like sentencing them to a life of loneliness and NEETdom because they didn't have a competitive environment where their social skills could develop (the most important kind of skills you could have). Which country are you from?

>>23265
This raises an interesting point, I've heard many people call America a "free country", but what does this actually mean? Sure there's more freedom there than say china or the dprk, but in some ways America is very much not "free", for example government spying programs, legal slavery, censorship etc. There are many other countries that do not do these things, what makes america particularly "free"? Am I just misinterpreting what this phrase means?

>>23273
>Am I just misinterpreting what this phrase means?
You and most Americans lol.
The freedom in this county mainly refers to things such as freedom of religion, in spite of the fact that atheists over the years have been treated with more mistrust and hate than homosexuals, museums are persecuted endlessly, and Christianity is shoved down everyone's throats to the point where "in god we trust" is printed on our money and kids forced to pledge their allegiance to a "nation under good". Our founders wanted a clear separation between church and state, but the relatively modern government ignored that and mixed the two. Yes we have freedom of religion, and people here are free to force that religion (Christianity) on needy starving people in poor under developed countries in exchange for food and aid. Yay freedom!

You've got the freedom of speech, where you need a permit to protest and can be sued for slander. You might have your words censored due to how offensive they are or use of foul language. Say the wrong thing and you might get labeled a terrorist or traitor. The internet helped a lot with this and gave people a voice, but the way big sites are designed now your unpopular opinion will get down voted into oblivion before anyone can read it, or you'll get banned for saying something the corporate slave site admins don't approve of. Generate enough attention and supporters to your cause, and the powers that be will bend and twist it into something else. See how gamergate went from being about paid reviews on games to being an attack on female gamers thanks to the media's manipulation of the truth.

You're free to buy and own land, even though it can and will be taken away from you if the government decides it wants that land. That's not to mention the hefty property tax. One of the most famous events in this country's foundation was the Boston tea party, which was a protest against unfair taxation from Brittan. Mainly referring to not being properly represented in Brittan's political matters. Yet here we are paying taxes on literally every purchase we make from food to bills, yet politicians ignore the wants and cries of it's people in favor of corporate interests and personal gain.
http://ij.org/action-post/foul-ball-ten-cities-that-used-eminent-domain-for-sports-stadiums/

Everyone thinks America is great, until they actually come to live here. If nothing else we know how to sell propaganda and make it seem like the truth. Or maybe people just haven't updated their information and realized this country isn't the tired and poor welcoming haven it once was.
We paint a beautiful lie here. Not just to the rest of the world but to ourselfs. People here boast about how America is the land of the free, that freedom is what makes us better than every other country in the world. People here are brainwashed into thinking the rest of the world is nothing but third world countries and corrupt totalitarian governments.
But if nothing else, it was founded on the concept of freedom. It's in short supply today thanks to things like the patriot act ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act )
But it's possible this is what some people refer to when they talk about the US being the land of the free, they might simply be referring to it's foundation and not necessarily it's current state.


>>23265
>therefore is what you make of it.
As someone who was born into a small peaceful town that turned into a ghetto before my eyes, I can tell you that it's more what your neighbors and community make of it. Of course you can pack up and go somewhere else, just to watch the same thing happen again. Or you can stay live in misery because you have no control over the people who live around you. They have as much right to be there as you do after all. You might go to prison here too for speaking your mind in some cases, the authorities just don't claim that's the reason to keep up the facade. They'll simply think of something else to punish you for instead. That said they 'usually' don't go after individuals who are likely to be considered harmless nuts, or famous people that might have people raise questions if they suddenly went missing.

>>23243
I never meant to imply this is the worst country in the world. I'm well aware there are better and worse out there. I was just venting because it's annoying to see how ignorant people here are and watch them boast about this being the best country in the world while turning a blind eye to the many problems here.

Its not going to get better. The children of today learn these things and in the future you'll be old and the one who is 'backwards and racist'.

>>23273
The freedom referred to is social mobility and first amendment rights.

A couple more things, about what OP said. A lot of the sayings that annoy OP are cultural artifacts back from when America actually was rather free when Nationalism was gripping a large amount of the world, similar to how the NFL Superbowl winners receive rings with the engraving "world champion", despite being the only league of it's kind in the world, because it's an artifact from when MLB's World Series was the standard of large sports tournaments and they were called world champions because of that series. (It's also technically true in that context because Canada participates and baseball also has many international players).
Secondly, most post-colonial countries (AKA, a lot of Africa and most of the western hemisphere) have histories of oppression and treatment of non majority males is a relatively new thing almost everywhere, I find it funny that you are upset about that while being annoyed with their sensitivity about those topics. I also find it amusing that you think people dont want beauty, which is also a push for justice for women because they feel the media creates an unfair standard for women to strive to be.
I also feel like you're seeing both the ugly side and missing the point of individualism. Like >>23265 said, there are many respectable subcultures in the US, mainly out of the way out of population centers.
>people thought electing a greedy self absorbed billionaire known for making a spectacle of firing people on TV and costing countless people their jobs on a whim would somehow make for a good president and somehow make everything better.
Trump has historically low approval ratings and most people know how rampant corruption is in the US government, even considering it malevolent to the people who live there. Voting in the US is just a formality, and the average persons vote doesn't matter. (Clinton won the popular vote for example).
>Americans are too selfish to even consider the idea of someone wearing something like that to avoid passing on germs
Almost the entire continent of North America wore them during pandemics of H1N1 and other flus. They also have worn them historically and even denied public service to those who didn't. Weird example.
I understand what you're saying (America has a lot of problems, like healthcare as you mentioned), but your complaints are odd, you sound like a religious reactionary but also sound like your about to lose your marbles over "SJWs". It also sounds like you think young coastal shitstains are how most Americans act.
I also find it funny that you say there's discrimination against Atheist when many quite popular atheist figures are/were American (Sam Harris, Christopher Hitchens and Daniel Dennett).

That being said, being bullied just because I come from a shit place is a large reason of why I'm unhappy.

>>23241
massive self injudgent wall of text that nobody wants to read explaining why everything wrong in your world is somebody else 's fault including the line
>No one takes responsibility for their wrong doings or admits guilt
wow, i wonder why nobody wants to ever spend any time with you
one of the frustrating facts about narcissistic personality disorder is that the people who have that condition are always the last people to understand whats going on. insane power fantasies, but very real loneliness.
p.s. this is the billionth thread on this board in which some loser blames society for the fact that they're personally unlikable.

>>24043
You're upset because he's right.

>>24045
He’s also kind of right about it being some loser blaming society for their woes or being misanthropic about society isn’t exactly original, and not even just on this site.
Even losers think that’s pathetic, again not just on this site.

I sort of regret bumping this thread because I thought his complaints were somewhat interesting but it’s also old and I doubt he reads it anymore, it’s just gonna become flamebait about 3D normalfag shit.

I'm ashamed of my country(Australia) as well, for many of the same reasons even. But it does not matter much really because I have isolated myself from society anyway, I may as well be in Bohemia or North Macedonia for all it matters.

Apart from things like >>24042
I always feel like people will base me on what they think of Australians(which is mostly true of them) even though I am completely different to that.

>>24043
It's cute how, while bringing up a bunch of complaints about why OP has a warped view of the world, you didn't bring yourself to try and share any solutions - only an armchair diagnosis. Not that I could do better - but where should people who feel dissatisfied with the universe vent? There's many of us here.

>24049
Not a solution.

>>24050
Never implied it is a solution; quite the opposite - that those without a solution are left to ventilate. Still awaiting one.

>>24051
Anon never implied a solution either, yet you command one while complaining yourself. It's cute.

>>24052
I have not made a single complaint other than about the previous poster going on a long tirade to bring up everything wrong with OP, potentially further messing up OP's mental state, without trying to show any way out, which I think is a perfectly justified complaint.

>>24047
>I doubt he reads it anymore
I'm still here, still reading the responses. I just don't see much point in responding to posts that essentially amount to saying "you're a faggot OP".

tbh, I am a faggot.

>>24055
Accepting is always the first step. And I mean that in good spirit - once you accept your failings, it's easier to try and work with them on changing - not against them.

>>24054
In any case, it was interesting read, I’m aware it’s a pretty shit country but I’ve never seen those complaints before (oversenstivity to bigotry, being anti-beauty, defacing their own bodies instead of improving, infidelity, multiple partners and being emotionally unaware of their spouse). It was nice to ride something other than “burgers are not white, materialistic and dumb and elected trump lol”.

>>24048
It doesn’t feel good does it? I think a lot of these problems just come with Anglo countries, as stereotypical as that sounds. I’ve isolated myself too; and the best advice I can give is to not internalize others ignorance.

>>24055
Classy. But you know what, if not being "a faggot" means mindlessly ignoring all the problems around us, being a good wage slave consumer who drinks away their petty problems after a 9-5 job when they're not being zombified in front of a tv that helps them do as little free independent thinking as possible, while only occasionally calling the president a dumbass with coworkers around the water cooler, then a "faggot" I'll be. I don't care if you don't like what I said. If I was worried about that I never would have made this thread. In other communities just hinting at not liking the united states is enough to get a person lynched, but that didn't stop me from speaking my mind there and it wont stop me from doing the same here.
Likewise yeah as people have said I'm a loser, I'm a loser by this socialites standards. I've never had a ticket or been to jail, never touched drugs or alcohol, I'm physically fit without so much as an allergy, I have more money in savings than 75% of Americans do with my only debt being a half paid off mortgage. I have a job I don't hate and I avoid steeling, lying, and cheating as best I can. But, I'm a fucking loser! Why is that? Because I don't like the environment I was forced to grow up in? Speaking my mind about it? That I stopped trying to keep offline friends after the ones I had repeatedly robbed and took advantage of me? Because I haven't had sex a dozen random loose women? or I have have no "team" and have no idea who won the last Superbowl? That I don't own the latest phone or drive a car with oversized rims? I don't give a shit about vbloggers, or whatever degenerate skank is the hottest trending """artist""" at the moment? Because I don't go out drinking or blaze up with the bros? Or is it that I like Chinese porn cartoons? If these things make me a loser, than I'll just be both a loser and a faggot in the eyes of people who's opinions mean absolutely nothing to me.


>>24057
I think the reason you don't see people bring those things up more often is probably because so many are guilty of those things themselves. Which you could say holds true for materialism as well, but in that particular case maybe people are tired of the rat race and constantly trying to keep up with the jones? Where as someone who's an ugly cheating fat ass ect isn't going to complain about people being ugly cheating fat asses. What I mean is, It's easy to hate a part of culture that places demands and expectations on you, where people judge you by what you own. People who can't afford the latest iphone or whatever and are brainwashed into thinking they need it will resent a system that says they need it. Where as people who keep shoving burgers in their face aren't being forced to do so but are choosing to do it, their obesity is on them and like anti materialism they're agent the idea of demands/expectations being placed on them, in this case being fit. Meeting those expectations is hard, people here don't like doing things that are hard, so they instead take no responsibility for the damage they've done to themselves try to normalize obesity among other defacement they've caused themselves and this among other things leads into the anti-beuity movements we're seeing here.

>>24060
Anon you’re literally on a website for losers, read other posts on this board, otaku hikki/neets are people who have either given up on society or society has given up on them. I wouldn’t be surprised if you’re the only person with a mortgage on this entire website. It’s not like anime communities like this aren’t used to losers and sometimes even expect it.

That's not why people elected Trump though, The two party system is broken, it was either Hillary or Trump, and Trump brought a fresh and contrarian wind.
America despite it's surveillance still has more freedom than most others in the world, including Europe.

Disease killed most of the natives, not Americans. Americans also bought land from the natives and fought natives and the natives fought among themselves as well as the Americans. Most land was even uninhabited and free to settle and initially relations were quite peaceful.

It's not so simple just to say "Americans do everything bad!"

>>24074
People voted for Trump because they're racist. White people are honestly afraid of people who are darker skinned.

There's a reason why white people do everything in their power to segregate themselves away from people of color. Even if it massively inconveniences them, and prevented the US from building public transport systems.

Trump was an obvious con-man from the beginning. He has no defined ideology (much like Putin) and just spouts nonsense to rally up the rightists.

>>24074
>Disease killed most of the natives
You do realise that blankets deliberately infected with smallpox were given to the native Americans, right? In fact the genocide of the native Americans is the biggest genocide in history

>>24061
Anon, you're responding to someone who you already know made this thread a year ago and has hung around long enough to respond to you and others once someone dug up the thread, Yet you're seriously going to treat me like I don't know what kind of site this is? Are you trolling, did I say something to piss you off, or are you really just that think?
You say "you’re literally on a website for losers" In a thread where people are calling someone a loser in a very derogatory way, and when this person defends themselves by accepting and embarrassing being a loser, you chastise them for it? Why? For not being the right kind of loser? For being too big of a loser or too little of a loser? There's no reason to pull that kind of condescending bullshit on someone who has done you no wrong.

>>24077
I might be wrong but I think their intention was to be comforting, not condescending. "look around, you're among brothers." That sort of thing.

>>24075, >>24076
I do agree that Trump is a opportunist but - again, your reason for people voting for him is false.

Depending on you source, one is a flat-out fabricated lie by an professor who was fired for academic misconduct. Unsurprisingly he is a social marxist.

Or because of a siege. Spreading disease through blankets is questionable at most, more likely it is through previous contact with settlers, traders, others infected. Respiratory transmission is much more effective.

You seem set on attacking whites, ironically being a racist yourself.

>>24078
Yeah that was my point, I was even implying he was less of a loser than most users here.

>>24075
Public transit wasn’t built because of the auto industry that literally tore up train tracks in places that had them before; and ironically came to dominate our public transit with buses, which I don’t think was an accident. I know you’re talking about NIMBYs but it’s not as simple as you’re making it out to be.

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>>24079
If it wasn't racism, they would have voted for Jeb Bush or John Kasich. "Building the wall" is a racist dogwhistle to rally up the white nationalists of America. Nobody really cares about the wall besides that group, and public opinion showed that fact during the government shutdown.

I think you want to downplay the racism of white people. If blacks were compensated with the forty acres and a mule idea that Sherman promised them, then you might have a point. However, the U.S. has never done anything to help develop its people of color communities.

>>24081
Rail wasn't profitable in the US due to white suburban sprawl. It wouldn't matter anyways if whites didn't flee into the suburbs to get away from people of color. I think how Singapore does it is best, just have a certain amount of people of each racial group in every area. It prevents racial enclaves and separatism.

Since this is a thread about being stressed out by real-life events, I just want to say that this is how I feel when I tried to use media to escape from it.

>>24084
Pretty much.

TL:DR this is a thread for l*ftyp*l to shill against THE MAN.

This thread stinks and belongs on /tat/.

ITT: People think OP is wrong because they disagree with one or two of the fifty points he brings up.

>>24094
That's just how imageboard debates (hell all debates) work. Anon will cherry pick a few points from each other's arguments to in order to invalidate the overall message or stance of the person. You can say 99 things out of a 100 right, but people will rip into you for that 1 thing you got wrong.

I agree this should be moved to /tat/ by the way.

>>24095
Then don't make 100 complaints at once and be shocked when the contentious ones are protested against

>>616
Who's shocked? I'm just telling him like it is.

Also to the people reading this on /tat/, a lot of the frustrated replies are from people upset this was posted on /so/.

>>595
>Likewise yeah as people have said I'm a loser, I'm a loser by this socialites standards. I've never had a ticket or been to jail, never touched drugs or alcohol, I'm physically fit without so much as an allergy, I have more money in savings than 75% of Americans do with my only debt being a half paid off mortgage. I have a job I don't hate and I avoid steeling, lying, and cheating as best I can. But, I'm a fucking loser! Why is that? Because I don't like the environment I was forced to grow up in? Speaking my mind about it? That I stopped trying to keep offline friends after the ones I had repeatedly robbed and took advantage of me? Because I haven't had sex a dozen random loose women? or I have have no "team" and have no idea who won the last Superbowl? That I don't own the latest phone or drive a car with oversized rims? I don't give a shit about vbloggers, or whatever degenerate skank is the hottest trending """artist""" at the moment? Because I don't go out drinking or blaze up with the bros? Or is it that I like Chinese porn cartoons? If these things make me a loser, than I'll just be both a loser and a faggot in the eyes of people who's opinions mean absolutely nothing to me.
Honestly, these are actual truths about the average American ford drivers I've dealt with for pretty much my whole life so far.

I'm not. Stop being a pussy.