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'OSS (Office of Strategic Services) also helped arm, train and supply resistance movements, including Mao Zedong's People's Liberation Army in China and the Viet Minh in French Indochina, in areas occupied by the Axis powers. Other functions of the OSS included the use of propaganda, espionage, subversion, and post-war planning.'

Wow, the USA's 'fund a terrorist group, what could possibly go wrong' plan has been going on since the 1940s.
>> No. 401 [Edit]
So, uh, what's there to debate? What's your question.
>"what could possibly go wrong"
Always a charade.

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I don't understand. How is Mexico still so piss poor after all this time? They've been sending swarms of Mexicans to the US for decades to collect money and resources, who then send those resources and money back to their families in mexico? Anyone who's lived around them would know how much of a drain they are on the American economy. They spend as little as they can here so they can send to Mexico everything they can. They're content to live in squarer or pack themselves into small homes like sardines just to save a few bucks to send to Mexico. The question is though, where is that money? Are corrupt police, politicians, and drug lords really sucking it all up or is there more to it?
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>> No. 396 [Edit]
It's not that different in Mexico than in other subject countries. I live in a Mexico-like slave reservoir.
Nothing can be done about it. They make too little money to really change anything back home and the master country is happy to have legal slaves.
They're not smart with that money sent from America and most waste it on distractions from horrible poorfag life. Everything goes back into pockets of businessmen, politicians and crime lords.
Even if they started being frugal and cautious they'd get robbed anyway. That's what happened here. Too many people were saving almost meaningful amounts money. Can't have that, the governments took steps to rectify the problem and increased taxes, working ages, took care to maintain that steady inflation to keep the money in the business and out of people's pockets. The usual stuff.
Now it's all clear: you'll be slaving for us until you die anyway so don't even bother trying to hoard OUR money. Go get a loan, buy a TV and get fucked on drugs every friday.
If you study in one of the trending fields maybe you'll achieve the status of winning at life by being able to afford bigger loans for bigger TVs and more extravagant drugs.

Where does the money go? It's a cliched thing to say but top 100 of the wealthiest people of the world have enough money to buy out 4 billion of the poorest. Less than 100 million owns more than the rest, 7.5 billion. The world is a fucking farm.
>> No. 397 [Edit]
Hoarding money is bad for the economy. If everbody starts hoarding money, then there's no money in the economy, then business can't pay wages, then government would have to print more, then the money becomes weaker meaning the people who saved haven't achieved anything.

It's easy to say the rich are greedy, but the poor aren't entirely blameless. They're too cowardly to do anything about their shitty situation, and too greedy themselves and only care about their own well-being.
If you gave those slum fuckers a billion dollars, they'd become exactly the elite rich that once subjected them.

It's not the mode of economics, it's the culture of the people.
>> No. 398 [Edit]
No one hoards more money than the wealthy elite. I think you missed the part where the anon said >100 of the wealthiest people of the world have enough money to buy out 4 billion of the poorest.
Some people trying to fill up their water bottles is nothing compared to just one person with their own privet lake. Those few wealthy fucks are what's killing the economy.
Money isn't printed because of people hoarding money, You can thank wealthy bankers for that and making our money worthless thanks to the money they create out of thin air. You know there's more debt in this world than there is money to pay it off? Up until not that long ago, money was backed by real solid precious metals. You couldn't just print off more money when money was just a stand in for the gold it represented, gold you could trade that money in for. Once that gold standard was removed, that's when money became worthless, because there was nothing backing it.

>If you gave those slum fuckers a billion dollars, they'd become exactly the elite rich that once subjected them.
Yeah, no. Most would eventually go back to living the same way that lead them where they are. People who are bad with money don't stop being bad with money just because you give them more money. I've seen people sue their way into tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars just to quickly burn it up on stupid shit and invest next to none of it. I've spent a lot of time at casinos and watched countless strangers manage to win only to keep gambling and piss it all away or walk out empty handed after going in with stacks of bills. Go watch the beverly hillbillies sometime, you might find it educational.
>> No. 399 [Edit]
We don't have that problem of super rich elite in Europe and Australia, so not my problem.
USA was founded by a bunch of rich people who didn't want to pay taxes to Crown (which payed to defend them from France), so, again, it's the culture of the people.

I wasn't talking how they'd end up poor. I was saying that those poor people, given wealth, would become the rich elite they once despised when they were poor. Nouveau Riche
There is no greater good for those sub-humans, only personal gain. A product of an inferior culture not yet exterminated.

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368 No. 368 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Have you noticed that when a guy is part of a leftist, multiculti, save the immigrants type group, there just happens to be a female involved.
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>> No. 370 [Edit]
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So that explains the term "SJW cuck" then.
For all the complaining people like to do about such people I haven't actually ever met anyone in real life who is like that.
I have only ever met one person who does that and that is a family member of mine. They don't try to make me think the way they do very often though.
Are they truly so common? Maybe they just aren't around where I live in the country?
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I think (or maybe hope) it's vocal minority type of thing. Though there are some places where these types of ideas thrive such as West coast USA.
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But is that even your own idea, or something Stirner told you?

I had been seeing it for awhile, but didn't really take notice until I watched a documentary and they were interviewing some leftist who houses refugees and some broad was at his side. His demeanor was typical of a normie who is rejected by normies.
>> No. 384 [Edit]
Absolutely. For as long as I can remember every time I see a SJW, male feminist, or whatever, I just assume they're whipped.

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262 No. 262 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Who here is racist? Against which race(s), and why? Was there any particular event which turned you into a racist?
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>> No. 345 [Edit]
Since I live in Europe I hold a huge disdain against Muslims and Blacks because they're savage rapists and murderers. Specially Muslims. They really should be removed.
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I hate the Chinese so god-damned much. They are like Jews if you minus the intelligence and add billions (literally) of bodies.

They are also VERY ethno-nationlists, if you are not Chinese you are inferior (the irony is so many of them LEAVE CHINA because it is a shit-hole). Even if you are Chinese, if you are not rich, you are still inferior; all they care about is money and ethnicity.

I mean, this is a country so devoid of morals that they HARVEST ORGANS of their own god-damned people, and then cry about supposed Japanese war-crimes against them.
ANYTHING they do is to gain money or ehtnic superiority, they do not actually care about any sort of morals or politics or.

Suffice to say, I want them out of my country.
Places without mass Chinese immigrants think of them as hard workers, sure, they are, but they would sell your fucking liver if it was legal. They abide by the law out of fear of losing money, not any sort of moral grounds.
>> No. 367 [Edit]
I'm not racist in the sense of being a shittier person to certain races IRL or even having an emotional attachment or hatred with one race or another. But I am racist in the sense of being on the pro-racial side of the biological argument. Based on the scientific articles that I've read, I have become racist.
Usually, when a scientist or scientific journalist writes that race is an illegitimate idea or that races are not different mentally, they use little to no data and throw some bullshit sophistry at you, like "Intelligence and crime are caused by socioeconomic and cultural factors." when almost every adoption study from the past 30 years disproves this. They also love the argument from concensus, even though most scientists outside of the ideologically influenced West and ego-preserving brown person-populated countries, like scientists from China or Russia generally agree on racial differences.
>> No. 857 [Edit]
Even among "second generation" Chinese born in the US, I've still felt the vestigial lack of sympathy. They have no qualms taking advantage of others, and this behavior particularly emerges when they form their own cliques.

Relatedly, It's shocking to me how universities and companies in the United States welcome Chinese immigrants by the boatload (no doubt lured in by their money), when it's well-established that a majority of these people are sent by the PRC to spy and transfer intelligence/knowledge back.

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363 No. 363 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I can't wait for war with China. Those fuckers have been getting too cocky.
They'll learn their rightful place as national inferiors soon enough.

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342 No. 342 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
'We would not say anything if the U.S.A. were aware of its intellectual and moral defects and was trying to grow up. But it is too much when it behaves in an impudent manner toward a part of the earth with a few thousands years of glorious history behind it, attempting to teach it moral and intellectual lessons, whether out of innocence or a complete lack of genuine culture and learning. We can forgive the mistakes of youth, but this degree of arrogance gets on one’s nerves.

We therefore have no appreciation for the Americanism that can be found in certain of our circles. We fail to see why we as the leading musical nation in the world should borrow even a single note from the U.S.A. We have a level of culture and civilization that is denied to most Americans. One who understands this can hardly have much sympathy for what they understand as culture and civilization. Although we affirm the technical achievements of our age, we see behind them an intellectual strength that grows from the roots of our people. Machines are a means to an end, not an end in themselves. As much as we appreciate the achievements of modern civilization and use them to improve life, we know that they are not the sole meaning of life. There are national values that are the result of centuries of history and tradition. They cannot be purchased, only built by the labor of generations.'
>> No. 344 [Edit]
Condense it into one sentence, or explain your point without copy-pasting.

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183 No. 183 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Here's a controversial topic that hasn't been discussed yet. What are your thoughts on private gun ownership? Do you support or oppose it?
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>> No. 209 [Edit]
>You don't go for freedom because it's easy.
Freedom is very easy. Go into the woods, uncontrolled by the opressive government.
You will get a disease and die, that is freedom.

>If it is, then so is enjoying 'stability' and 'order'
Stability and order bring harmony of society. That is the opposite of fear. There is no fear, to the point of boredom, but that can be remedied.

>Though I'd add that any country that calls itself free should be doing the same thing of their governments
America probably the worst of the developed nations. Without its money, America would look as if though it is only a developing nation.
>It's a lot of power to blindly trust to be used for the good of the people
Power always finds a place to rest it's head. Government is not a omnipotent being, who props up instantaniously simply to spoil a good time. Government is formed through thousands of years of bloodshed and primitve savagery, then those who are the strongest and most benevolent will gather a following larger, and that group will be called 'government'.

>It was generally held in British Common Law in the colonies prior to the Revolutionary War that there was a right to keep and to bear arms
Very unfortunate for them, then. After having defended America from French colonisation, their own citizens attack them.
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>> No. 211 [Edit]
Now the 'fear' of a government taking the country to its demise is 'hatred'... just not in the case of the USA? Don't devolve into semantics.

>There is no living in perputual fear of his government, as in the USA.
But this isn't really the case. It's a strawman you conceived out of someone making the argument that guns can be used as a system of checks and balances against a theoretical tyrannical government. Nobody except the most insane SJW, who wouldn't touch a gun in the first place, has any serious fear of military action of the government on its citizens in the US.

Your arguments seem vested in personal, emotional dislike (especially with use of subjective adjectives like 'worst' and 'trash') of the US rather than rational observation.
>> No. 212 [Edit]
>rather than rational observation.
I used to be pro-American, so I have knowledge from both sides.
>> No. 219 [Edit]
If I were to run a country, I'd make it the following way:
-there are gun ranges where you can go and fire guns just for fun, sport and leisure, just about anyone can open one and anyone can play with anything in those ranges: automatic guns, explosives, artillery etc.
-you can own guns for self defense at your home and carry them around your home freely, but there would be some restrictions such as no automatics, no explosives, magazine and caliber size etc
-people who have gone through vigorous checks, tests etc can conceal carry for self defense in public
Anyone with strong mental disabilities, criminal backgrounds or substance addictions would be automatically excluded from any gun ownership.
Other regulations or deregulations would be up to the congress, parliament or whatever equivalent of said country to debate and implement.

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155 No. 155 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I've been thinking. Countries around the world have folk stories and songs and heritage that dates back hundreds or even thousands of years. The US has very little of that since we started off from a blank slate not all that long ago. That's not the problem here though. The problem is along the path of development we became a nation obsessed with money, material goods, personal gain, and created a legal nightmare in the process at the expense of friends, family, and neighbors. As a result our folktales and songs all became trade marked copy written products. Now these products have become ingrained in American society and have become part of our culture. It's a lot easier to identify as a starwars nut or band/artist fanatic when there's nothing else for you. East coast states have some 'some' history, but what about the rest of the country? A hundred years ago the city I was born in was nothing but dirt. Can you blame me or anyone else for becoming a weeb?)

That would all be well and good if it wasn't very clearly mass produced products made for profit that are defining our culture. Not just media but brands too. Even when I was a little kid I thought it was weird the other kids were more than happy to be walking billboards for whatever product/brand was trendy at the time. It's next to impossible to get away from it all. You've even got brand slogans that creep into our language and become part of our culture. Everything from "That's a Kodak moment" to "Got milk?". Then there's companies like coke that spent millions to become associated with Santa clause and Christmas. The Disney corporation meanwhile actually owns a dang city. Meanwhile every site you visit collects data on you to sell to people who sell it to other people who try to sell you shit in return.

Most countries have heros and historical figures based on real people with stories that fall into public domain. Anyone can make any story about any character they want. Here we get TV/movie characters and comicbook superheros, most of whom are property of the highest bidder and always will be. It feels very wrong to me that companies have control over the stories behind historical characters and can rewrite history if they want. Did you grow up believing "The Force" was magical and anyone c
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>you and your country would probably not exist today.
First you joke about how Europe is multiculti, now, in light of the fact that it is Americas fault, you say Europe is lucky to even exist. Your points are childish. You genuinely think Hitler was a comic book villian. Or you are making a mockery of me.

>The US was pretty much an isolationist nation
''The outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937 saw aid flow into the Republic of China, from the United States under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. A series of Neutrality Acts had been passed in the US with the support of isolationists who forbade American aid to countries at war. Because the Second Sino-Japanese War was undeclared, however, Roosevelt denied that a state of war existed in China and proceeded to send aid to Chiang''

>and a "racist" one, did you say?
I quoted an American Black man, from the 1930s, saying the USA president was worse to him than literally Hitler, literally literally Hitler.

This is a deliberate joke, everything you say simply causes me to repeat myself.
Whatever man, I'm bored of it which either way it is. At the very least you have been a tool, for me, to simply dump National Socialist propaganda.
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I think the bigger problem is that nobody gives a damn about our culture, our history. It's routinely reshaped, reinterpreted and thrown to the side for whatever cheap thrill comes next. When you talk to the average American today they don't know many of our influential figures. They're not even familiar with the founders outside of what they've been told by the media, who distort it wildly. Liberals honestly believe Jefferson was a closet muslim and conservatives honestly believe Franklin (among others) were fire and brimstone conservatives. Granted, you can't really blame people too much. Whites are instilled with massive guilt and browns are given colossal inferiority complexes. It's no wonder people go to such lengths to invent clear bullshit, they're all suffering trauma from things that they never did or experienced. The lies wouldn't be so bad if they weren't ripping the country apart.

I actually somewhat agree with >>159 despite despising his tone of "America never made anything good.". We DO lack great artists, philosophers, scientists. We have them, but how many? And of those how many are first, second generation immigrants instead of people who've put roots down into this soil? In fact a lot of them are people who've just came here because of economics; not because they actually wanted to come here.

And America, it seems to take people in and rip them apart. When I look around the people who've been here for most of our history aren't that well off. People come in, do well for a time and begin to degenerate. I'd know because my family is no different. We've lived in the same general area for almost two-hundred years. The first several generations did great. We owned huge farms, took part in local politics, people had dozens of children. But now... well, we're shit. Reduced to emotional children without a clue in affairs of finance, nature, philosophy, religion. Just barking about some perceived slight or inconvenience so we can pretend we have worth, pretend we're something. Disgusting.

People like us, people discontent with the current state of affairs. We need to work on creating
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>> No. 182 [Edit]
Your seem to be confused. I'm not the same person you were arguing with above; you are rambling on about nothing.

Never once have I stated Hitler to be a villain.

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all we can do is fight, take back what's rightfully ours

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142 No. 142 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Lets pretend you are given 10 trillion dollars with which to make the world a better place. What do you do?
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>> No. 144 [Edit]
Buy myself some body guards, do some research on and invite top researchers and engineers to an all expenses paid conference on how to make the world a better place, put the money into the proposals they make
>> No. 145 [Edit]
>giving women voting rights when they still have the social and legal responsibilities of children
To be fair, I don't consider most people in general to be responsible voters. In my country it's even the law that you must vote. If people voted intelligently based on reducing the influence of others on their lives instead of for whoever jerked them off the most, then we wouldn't be in this situation.

>allowing leftover stigma from Nazi Germany to forever equate legitimate (and at this point in the game incredibly necessary) non-lethal eugenics with genocide
Read Article II my man:

General Assembly Resolution 260 (III). Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide.

Article II
In the present Convention, genocide means any of the following acts committed with the intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such:
(a) Killing members of the group;
(b) Causing serious bodily of mental harm to members of the group;
(c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its destruction in whole or in part;
(d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group
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>> No. 146 [Edit]
>I don't consider most people in general to be responsible voters.
Neater does the US government. That's why voting rights were originally restricted to just white male land owners. Even after caving into demands from the common folk over time they still don't trust the people to vote for it's own leaders. As such we have an electoral college that to my understanding has representatives for each state with their votes being the only ones that matter. Depending on the state's laws, they may or may not look at what people in their state voted for and decide to vote the same way. In a number of states they have every right to ignore the popular vote and vote for who they see fit. In a sense, voting is just a means for commoners to ask the higher ups to vote the way they want.
>> No. 149 [Edit]
>To be fair, I don't consider most people in general to be responsible voters.
While I also agree with this, to imply that the female voting bloc hasn't devastated the western world is naïve at best and ignorant at worst. Giving anyone power without responsibility is a terrible idea.

>Read Article II
This article was created after World War 2 and included a ban on non-lethal eugenics as you pointed out. That's exactly what I was getting at. Nobody saw non-lethal eugenics as "taboo" before Nazi Germany.

>I think that one should strive to be morally correct. The difference here is that I don't try and impose my morals on those around me.
The problem is that morals are not and never have been objective. There are very, very few codes of ethics that are universally agreed upon by all groups of people across the planet. And when you mix very different groups of people together, conflict is inevitable. Look at the United States currently: even people of the same race in the same nation WILL force their morals upon each other, using violence as a means of subjugation for non-conformity if necessary.

>The fact that you hold the concept of nation so highly speaks of your own morals being focused in that direction.
I think that's a bit of a stretch and an assumption. In an ideal world I merely see separate nations being respectful of each other as an easy means to "get people to leave each other damn well alone", as you put it. And I'd agree with that being a great goal if you could somehow manage it.

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American education depends on witholding testimony and evidence contrary to the great moral quagmire of justifying the use of atomic weapons on highly concentrated civilian centers within days of each other, on a country incapable of feeding itself or launching a significant strategic counter attack, which had already been seeking to enter peace negotiations since May of the previous year.

No major American General or Admiral was involved in the executive order to drop the bombs. If they had been, chances are the bombs would not have been dropped. MacArthur himself, the man who had been involved in the brunt of the fighting against Japan, and who had just recently liberated his troops from prisoner of war camps after the Bataan march, said the bombs were not necessary, and that diplomacy which would result in the same outcome, would have precluded and circumvented an invasion, kept Soviet Russia out of Japan, and ended the war.

If even the men who lead the fight against Japan agree that the bombs were not justified, why does "common knowledge" in the US justify it?
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>> No. 138 [Edit]
The whole war by America against Japan was because FDR was a Sinophile.
FDR wanted China as a puppet-state in Asia.

'The outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937 saw aid flow into the Republic of China, from the United States under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. A series of Neutrality Acts had been passed in the US with the support of isolationists who forbade American aid to countries at war. Because the Second Sino-Japanese War was undeclared, however, Roosevelt denied that a state of war existed in China and proceeded to send aid to Chiang'
>> No. 139 [Edit]
China's war-plan was to keep fighting, knowing they cannot win, to garner Western sympathy and have the West beat Japan because China certainly could not.

'A major reason that the Chinese army held onto the city as long as it did, even though it was on the brink of collapse, was that China was hoping for a western intervention in the Sino-Japanese War.'
'Thus, Chiang Kai-shek had to devote everything China had to offer to make sure the Western powers know that the present conflict between China and Japan was a major war, not a collection of inconsequential "incidents" as had been the case previously. Based on this political strategy, Chiang Kai-shek had to order his troops to fight to the death in an attempt to arouse international sympathy and cause the international community to adopt measures that would help China and sanction Japan.'
'In addition, on October 5, President Franklin D. Roosevelt gave the Quarantine Speech, calling for the United States to help nations fight against aggressor nations. This speech had a tremendous effect on raising China's morale.'
>> No. 140 [Edit]
So America was not 'neutral' in the slightest, before Pearl Harbor, as is commonly thought.
>> No. 141 [Edit]
Also, the Japanese POW camps were manned by Korean soldiers. So most POW abuse, in Japanese POW camps, is actually from Koreans.

'After the war, 148 Koreans were convicted of Class B and C Japanese war crimes, 23 of whom were sentenced to death, including Korean prison guards who were particularly notorious for their brutality during the war.'

'The figure is relatively high considering that ethnic Koreans made up a very small percentage of the Japanese military. Justice Bert Röling, who represented the Netherlands at the International Military Tribunal for the Far East, noted that "many of the commanders and guards in POW camps were Koreans – the Japanese apparently did not trust them as soldiers – and it is said that they were sometimes far more cruel than the Japanese."[58]'

'In his memoirs, Colonel Eugene C. Jacobs wrote that during the Bataan Death March, "the Korean guards were the most abusive. The Japs didn't trust them in battle, so used them as service troops; the Koreans were anxious to get blood on their bayonets; and then they thought they were veterans."[59][60]'

'Korean guards were sent to the remote jungles of Burma, where Lt. Col. William A. (Bill) Henderson wrote from his own experience that some of the guards overlooking the construction of the Burma Railway "were moronic and at times almost bestial in their treatment of prisoners. This applied particularly to Korean private soldiers, conscripted only for guard and sentry duties in many parts of the Japanese empire. Regrettably, they were appointed as guards for the prisoners throughout the camps of Burma and Siam."[61] The highest-ranking Korean to be prosecuted after the war was Lieutenant General Hong Sa-ik, who was in command of all the Japanese prisoner-of-war camps in the Philippines.'

U.S. laws of war
a. Crimes against peace.
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My religion > your religion.
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>invisible old man in space
Did you get all your knowledge about God from cartoons in the Sunday newspapers?
To have such an infantile attitude to the very idea of God, let alone how He may manifest or in what way he exists in this world is actually troubling. You've trivialized and misunderstood a concept that all civilizations have dedicated their best minds and thinkers to conquering, in a self righteous and profoundly stupid way.
Congratulations, you successfully skeeved me out.
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I am he who came into being in the form of the god Ḫ-P-R Ré, and I am the creator of that which came into being, that is to say, I am the creator of everything which came into being. Now the things which I created, and which came forth out of my mouth after that I had come into being myself were exceedingly many. Heaven had not come into being, the earth did not exist, and the children of the earth, and the creeping things had not been made at that time. I myself raised them up from out of Nûn, from a state of helpless inertness.
I found no place whereon I could stand. I worked a charm upon my own heart. I laid the foundation of things by Tme, and I made everything which had form. I was then one by myself, for I had not emitted from myself the god Shôu, and I had not spit out from myself the goddess Teféne; and there existed no other who could work with me. I laid the foundations of things in my own heart, and there came into being multitudes of created things, which came into being from the created things which were born from the created things which arose from what they brought forth.
I had union with my closed hand, and I embraced my shadow as a wife, and I poured seed into my own mouth.
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