yeah, cause capitalism works definitely well right?
fuck i'm becoming really tired of americans on the internet. You can't do anything against early-childhood macchartyist propaganda.

>>434
I'm from the US but I've always hated the way people treat the concept of communism as objectively bad and the word itself like something foul. People here think no other system can work because humans are naturally selfish and greedy, ignoring the idea that they've simply been raised to be that way. Like programmed machines people point to Russia as the best and only needed example of why communism wont work, while conveniently forgetting what happened to Rome which had capitalist features and was just as big and powerful then as the US is today.

>>434
American-style Capitalism is a shit show. Fuck that and fuck Communism.
Both preach that 'all men are born equal', so both are equally as stupid.

>>435
The Roman Empire alone lasted over one thousand years. And the USA is closer to the Roman Republic than the Empire. Roman Republic was pretty shit, which is why Julius Caesar started a civl war over it.

>>254
>>351
>Clearly computer nerds can't accept the fact that they have been the 'useful idiots' for Anarcho-Communists.
We're "idiots" because we've created an environment where we can now start IT-related businesses without paying thousands of dollars for shitty software packages? Interesting.

Having an Open Source software infrastructure isn't any more "communistic" than having a system of roads that anyone can use.

I actually hate it when Commies take credit for Open Source. Communist governments didn't do shit to support Linux compared to corporations like Intel. The Copyleft principle also cannot function in anarchy, because it relies on an established court system and the rule of law to enforce the terms of the GPL.

As far as political groups go, the chief beneficiaries of open source software and related technologies at the moment are nationalists, since they are the only group that is actively being fought by most globalist corporations.

For example, websites like counter-currents.com and theRightStuff.biz are all banned from PayPal, and the Institute for Historical Review is even being refused service by all major credit card companies. So they all ended up relying on Bitcoin and other crypto-currencies for donations and payments.
Daily Stormer was the first website in US history to be kicked off of its own .com domain without hosting any content that is illegal under US law, so they went on TOR so people could still read the site.
When you look at how Twitter, Facebook, Cloudflare and most webhosting companies kick (white) nationalists off of their services all the time, it would actually be conceivable that people would start getting locked out of their iPhones and Windows computers for their political beliefs. Can't do that with Open Source systems though, so Microsoft and Apple aren't going to risk this.

But the USA was the one who funds ISIS with weapons to fight 'oppressive dictators' like Assad.
Does this mean the USA should be imprisoned for life?

>>407
Yes. Very much yes. A million times yes. Yes.

Over here in Germany and Austria, even sending funny pictures to your friends on whatsapp can land you in prison for a year:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4920540/amp/Austrian-guilty-Nazi-activity-Nazipan-cake.html

>>413
>help i'm being oppressed, i'm a victim! everyone give me upvotes for sympathy
i don't understand this instinct, but i would also like to point out that the entire genesis of online ironic nazidom is that people were upset about video games being banned in germany because of swastika content around the turn of the millennia. i think there was a lucasarts luftwaffe game that was one of them.
so its not like you're discovering some new issue or something, kid.

>>386
Japan's birth rate is up over the past decade.

>>385
And it's not going to die. They don't need to breed to be; though some benefit from people believing this myth. If anything it's good because populations need to start shrinking dramatically.
Desperately throwing more and more bodies onto the pyres of glorious market won't work forever. It's killing humanity, what irony.
Even if people are considered disposable and free (as in "free beer") space and resources are not unlimited. But this barbarian economy keeps the rich and powerful in control so nothing will ever change. Even if it means misery for billions and eventually extinction for all they'll keep us living like yeast, trapped in futile cycle of consumption and multiplication until there's no more sugar left, only a deadly amount of alcohol.

Immigration is exploited to prolong this suffering. Immigrants are used to fuck up locals and break up homogenous nations into more manageable melange, they also provide dirt cheap slave-fuel needed to keep the machine going unchanged. They're strikebreakers.

ALLAHU AKBAR GRAVEN IMAGES ARE HARAM

*throws acid on your dakimakura and rapes it*

>>394
Pretty much on-point. Though I doubt the extinction part, even the Black Plague couldn't finish us off (in fact made life better after-wards due to culling of people raised an individual's worth).

And there's the paradox stated by pro-immigrants: 1) they'll do the jobs we won't want to do, 2) they aren't stealing your jobs, you're being a fear-monger.


Funnily, I learnt first-hand how mass-immigration just pushes you down a class, to make room, from when they moved the Koreans and Taiwanese to the Global Love Live SIF.
Before they came I would often get two SR with average effort (from events), now I don't even get one.

So, uh, what's there to debate? What's your question.
>"what could possibly go wrong"
Always a charade.

>>383
It's not that different in Mexico than in other subject countries. I live in a Mexico-like slave reservoir.
Nothing can be done about it. They make too little money to really change anything back home and the master country is happy to have legal slaves.
They're not smart with that money sent from America and most waste it on distractions from horrible poorfag life. Everything goes back into pockets of businessmen, politicians and crime lords.
Even if they started being frugal and cautious they'd get robbed anyway. That's what happened here. Too many people were saving almost meaningful amounts money. Can't have that, the governments took steps to rectify the problem and increased taxes, working ages, took care to maintain that steady inflation to keep the money in the business and out of people's pockets. The usual stuff.
Now it's all clear: you'll be slaving for us until you die anyway so don't even bother trying to hoard OUR money. Go get a loan, buy a TV and get fucked on drugs every friday.
If you study in one of the trending fields maybe you'll achieve the status of winning at life by being able to afford bigger loans for bigger TVs and more extravagant drugs.

Where does the money go? It's a cliched thing to say but top 100 of the wealthiest people of the world have enough money to buy out 4 billion of the poorest. Less than 100 million owns more than the rest, 7.5 billion. The world is a fucking farm.

>>396
Hoarding money is bad for the economy. If everbody starts hoarding money, then there's no money in the economy, then business can't pay wages, then government would have to print more, then the money becomes weaker meaning the people who saved haven't achieved anything.

It's easy to say the rich are greedy, but the poor aren't entirely blameless. They're too cowardly to do anything about their shitty situation, and too greedy themselves and only care about their own well-being.
If you gave those slum fuckers a billion dollars, they'd become exactly the elite rich that once subjected them.

It's not the mode of economics, it's the culture of the people.

>>397
No one hoards more money than the wealthy elite. I think you missed the part where the anon said >100 of the wealthiest people of the world have enough money to buy out 4 billion of the poorest.
Some people trying to fill up their water bottles is nothing compared to just one person with their own privet lake. Those few wealthy fucks are what's killing the economy.
Money isn't printed because of people hoarding money, You can thank wealthy bankers for that and making our money worthless thanks to the money they create out of thin air. You know there's more debt in this world than there is money to pay it off? Up until not that long ago, money was backed by real solid precious metals. You couldn't just print off more money when money was just a stand in for the gold it represented, gold you could trade that money in for. Once that gold standard was removed, that's when money became worthless, because there was nothing backing it.

>If you gave those slum fuckers a billion dollars, they'd become exactly the elite rich that once subjected them.
Yeah, no. Most would eventually go back to living the same way that lead them where they are. People who are bad with money don't stop being bad with money just because you give them more money. I've seen people sue their way into tens or even hundreds of thousands of dollars just to quickly burn it up on stupid shit and invest next to none of it. I've spent a lot of time at casinos and watched countless strangers manage to win only to keep gambling and piss it all away or walk out empty handed after going in with stacks of bills. Go watch the beverly hillbillies sometime, you might find it educational.

>>398
We don't have that problem of super rich elite in Europe and Australia, so not my problem.
USA was founded by a bunch of rich people who didn't want to pay taxes to Crown (which payed to defend them from France), so, again, it's the culture of the people.

I wasn't talking how they'd end up poor. I was saying that those poor people, given wealth, would become the rich elite they once despised when they were poor. Nouveau Riche
There is no greater good for those sub-humans, only personal gain. A product of an inferior culture not yet exterminated.

So that explains the term "SJW cuck" then.
For all the complaining people like to do about such people I haven't actually ever met anyone in real life who is like that.
I have only ever met one person who does that and that is a family member of mine. They don't try to make me think the way they do very often though.
Are they truly so common? Maybe they just aren't around where I live in the country?

>>370
I think (or maybe hope) it's vocal minority type of thing. Though there are some places where these types of ideas thrive such as West coast USA.

>>369
But is that even your own idea, or something Stirner told you?
https://youtu.be/vXbCWJNfq_0

https://youtu.be/eKl6WjfDqYA


>>370
I had been seeing it for awhile, but didn't really take notice until I watched a documentary and they were interviewing some leftist who houses refugees and some broad was at his side. His demeanor was typical of a normie who is rejected by normies.

Absolutely. For as long as I can remember every time I see a SJW, male feminist, or whatever, I just assume they're whipped.

Since I live in Europe I hold a huge disdain against Muslims and Blacks because they're savage rapists and murderers. Specially Muslims. They really should be removed.

I hate the Chinese so god-damned much. They are like Jews if you minus the intelligence and add billions (literally) of bodies.

They are also VERY ethno-nationlists, if you are not Chinese you are inferior (the irony is so many of them LEAVE CHINA because it is a shit-hole). Even if you are Chinese, if you are not rich, you are still inferior; all they care about is money and ethnicity.

I mean, this is a country so devoid of morals that they HARVEST ORGANS of their own god-damned people, and then cry about supposed Japanese war-crimes against them.
ANYTHING they do is to gain money or ehtnic superiority, they do not actually care about any sort of morals or politics or.

Suffice to say, I want them out of my country.
Places without mass Chinese immigrants think of them as hard workers, sure, they are, but they would sell your fucking liver if it was legal. They abide by the law out of fear of losing money, not any sort of moral grounds.

I'm not racist in the sense of being a shittier person to certain races IRL or even having an emotional attachment or hatred with one race or another. But I am racist in the sense of being on the pro-racial side of the biological argument. Based on the scientific articles that I've read, I have become racist.
Usually, when a scientist or scientific journalist writes that race is an illegitimate idea or that races are not different mentally, they use little to no data and throw some bullshit sophistry at you, like "Intelligence and crime are caused by socioeconomic and cultural factors." when almost every adoption study from the past 30 years disproves this. They also love the argument from concensus, even though most scientists outside of the ideologically influenced West and ego-preserving brown person-populated countries, like scientists from China or Russia generally agree on racial differences.

http://www.humanbiologicaldiversity.com/

>>362
Even among "second generation" Chinese born in the US, I've still felt the vestigial lack of sympathy. They have no qualms taking advantage of others, and this behavior particularly emerges when they form their own cliques.

Relatedly, It's shocking to me how universities and companies in the United States welcome Chinese immigrants by the boatload (no doubt lured in by their money), when it's well-established that a majority of these people are sent by the PRC to spy and transfer intelligence/knowledge back.

Condense it into one sentence, or explain your point without copy-pasting.

>>204
>You don't go for freedom because it's easy.
Freedom is very easy. Go into the woods, uncontrolled by the opressive government.
You will get a disease and die, that is freedom.

>If it is, then so is enjoying 'stability' and 'order'
Stability and order bring harmony of society. That is the opposite of fear. There is no fear, to the point of boredom, but that can be remedied.

>Though I'd add that any country that calls itself free should be doing the same thing of their governments
America probably the worst of the developed nations. Without its money, America would look as if though it is only a developing nation.
>It's a lot of power to blindly trust to be used for the good of the people
Power always finds a place to rest it's head. Government is not a omnipotent being, who props up instantaniously simply to spoil a good time. Government is formed through thousands of years of bloodshed and primitve savagery, then those who are the strongest and most benevolent will gather a following larger, and that group will be called 'government'.

>It was generally held in British Common Law in the colonies prior to the Revolutionary War that there was a right to keep and to bear arms
Very unfortunate for them, then. After having defended America from French colonisation, their own citizens attack them.

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>>209
Now the 'fear' of a government taking the country to its demise is 'hatred'... just not in the case of the USA? Don't devolve into semantics.

>There is no living in perputual fear of his government, as in the USA.
But this isn't really the case. It's a strawman you conceived out of someone making the argument that guns can be used as a system of checks and balances against a theoretical tyrannical government. Nobody except the most insane SJW, who wouldn't touch a gun in the first place, has any serious fear of military action of the government on its citizens in the US.

Your arguments seem vested in personal, emotional dislike (especially with use of subjective adjectives like 'worst' and 'trash') of the US rather than rational observation.

>>211
>rather than rational observation.
I used to be pro-American, so I have knowledge from both sides.

>>183
If I were to run a country, I'd make it the following way:
-there are gun ranges where you can go and fire guns just for fun, sport and leisure, just about anyone can open one and anyone can play with anything in those ranges: automatic guns, explosives, artillery etc.
-you can own guns for self defense at your home and carry them around your home freely, but there would be some restrictions such as no automatics, no explosives, magazine and caliber size etc
-people who have gone through vigorous checks, tests etc can conceal carry for self defense in public
Anyone with strong mental disabilities, criminal backgrounds or substance addictions would be automatically excluded from any gun ownership.
Other regulations or deregulations would be up to the congress, parliament or whatever equivalent of said country to debate and implement.

>>179
>you and your country would probably not exist today.
First you joke about how Europe is multiculti, now, in light of the fact that it is Americas fault, you say Europe is lucky to even exist. Your points are childish. You genuinely think Hitler was a comic book villian. Or you are making a mockery of me.

>The US was pretty much an isolationist nation
''The outbreak of the Second Sino-Japanese War in 1937 saw aid flow into the Republic of China, from the United States under President Franklin D. Roosevelt. A series of Neutrality Acts had been passed in the US with the support of isolationists who forbade American aid to countries at war. Because the Second Sino-Japanese War was undeclared, however, Roosevelt denied that a state of war existed in China and proceeded to send aid to Chiang''

>and a "racist" one, did you say?
I quoted an American Black man, from the 1930s, saying the USA president was worse to him than literally Hitler, literally literally Hitler.


This is a deliberate joke, everything you say simply causes me to repeat myself.
Whatever man, I'm bored of it which either way it is. At the very least you have been a tool, for me, to simply dump National Socialist propaganda.

I think the bigger problem is that nobody gives a damn about our culture, our history. It's routinely reshaped, reinterpreted and thrown to the side for whatever cheap thrill comes next. When you talk to the average American today they don't know many of our influential figures. They're not even familiar with the founders outside of what they've been told by the media, who distort it wildly. Liberals honestly believe Jefferson was a closet muslim and conservatives honestly believe Franklin (among others) were fire and brimstone conservatives. Granted, you can't really blame people too much. Whites are instilled with massive guilt and browns are given colossal inferiority complexes. It's no wonder people go to such lengths to invent clear bullshit, they're all suffering trauma from things that they never did or experienced. The lies wouldn't be so bad if they weren't ripping the country apart.

I actually somewhat agree with >>159 despite despising his tone of "America never made anything good.". We DO lack great artists, philosophers, scientists. We have them, but how many? And of those how many are first, second generation immigrants instead of people who've put roots down into this soil? In fact a lot of them are people who've just came here because of economics; not because they actually wanted to come here.

And America, it seems to take people in and rip them apart. When I look around the people who've been here for most of our history aren't that well off. People come in, do well for a time and begin to degenerate. I'd know because my family is no different. We've lived in the same general area for almost two-hundred years. The first several generations did great. We owned huge farms, took part in local politics, people had dozens of children. But now... well, we're shit. Reduced to emotional children without a clue in affairs of finance, nature, philosophy, religion. Just barking about some perceived slight or inconvenience so we can pretend we have worth, pretend we're something. Disgusting.

People like us, people discontent with the current state of affairs. We need to work on creating

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>>180
Your seem to be confused. I'm not the same person you were arguing with above; you are rambling on about nothing.

Never once have I stated Hitler to be a villain.

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>>181
all we can do is fight, take back what's rightfully ours