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True communism never existed. Anonymous 07/21/19(Sun)02:39 No. 655 [Edit]

True communism, never existed in the world. We can talk about communists -people with a certain definition of communism, views and possibly communal ownership, in a state reality which has as much to do with communism as design space ferries with chicken farms.Even
the communist government, composed of communists, does not determine the communist regime and sooner on the more or less real or more or less utopian version of socialism.

First of all, communism has never been built, maybe apart from the Sultanate of Brunei and the United Arab Emirates, where thanks to the small size of the country and with large oil deposits, a system was introduced that the citizen gets what he needs from power and for free. But even there there are class differences and money,which in communism should not be necessary.

Meanwhile in a society which fully understand idea of communism , each individual will intuitively know what to do and where to go
to enter into resonance with another unit that is able to provide it (whether it's a service or a good). There will be no currency in this a society. Everyone will do what he is passionate about and excitement. For example, one person is passionate about producing healthy food and other person is passionate about producingtools for the production of this food. Some of them will satisfy the needs of others without the need for money. In our present society, this solution exists partly among passionate people. The one who lives with passion and excitement will notice the same as "things" always happen in the right place and time, and one does not have to strain too much to live in abundance.

Unfortunately, today's society is dominated by the desire to dominate and having more than others. This creates a hierarchy and social problems . Let changes take place they must occur at the level of the individual and then at the level of the collective.

Anonymous 07/22/19(Mon)03:05 No. 656 [Edit]

>>655
>Meanwhile in a society which fully understand idea of communism , each individual will intuitively know what to do and where to go
No, they won't. People are not blank slates and people are not ants. What if there is not enough people passionate about growing food, or driving buses, or cleaning toilets, or working in a factory? If I want a laptop, how would I get it and how would it be made? Would there there be a laptop guild? Would they have the resources to get the supplies and equipment plus maintenance and electricity for it? With the help of people who just happen to be passionate about providing those things? What would I give in exchange for the laptop? Would they really just give it to me, let alone 500 other people? How long would it take to get mine?

How would the people passionate about growing food decide on who gets what land? I don't want to share land. Who will stop me from fighting over it? What if the guys who grow food decide to only give it to people in exchange for servitude and other forms of authority? They could team up and basically form a new, non-real communism government? They'll want to do it to, regardless of how well they know communism. What about their kids? Will they give a shit about ideology? Who will be responsible for teaching real communism if not a government?

Any government will take advantage of their power to live better than others. You need a government to stop another government from being formed by people who posses necessities or weapons. "Domination" is simply a means to an end, a better life for you and your family.

Or, I could just do nothing and live off others work. What about people who are passionate about nothing or watching TV all day? Or eating and breeding? What if way more people are "passionate" about things that aren't beneficial to others?

If I work harder than some fucker, I want to live better than him, otherwise, why bother? Many people think like that, at least to some extent, and then things turn to shit. You can't reprogram human nature, which did not evolve to be compatible with communism

Post edited on 22nd Jul 2019, 3:35am

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