Wire grass trimmers. Here where I live the noise goes on day after day and they also dont give much fuck about cars and windows and people. I know there are countries where they are regulated but in this post-communist shithole, there is none.
And I hate the fact that all the insane noise is seen here as perfectly fine. All the wood-cutting and grinding and drilling and kids on bikes and quads. Its one reason I like winter more.

>>39796
At least they serve a mostly benign purpose, making the grass look orderly and nice and they're really effective at that. If you dislike trimmers I would like to know your opinion on one of the dumbest machines I've ever seen; the leaf blower. Literally a machine built for flinging shit, garbage and debris up in the air at high speeds. That's all it does. I've seen people using one of those and then using a rake afterwards because a leaf blower does nothing right but noise and flinging shit up in the air. It's so amazingly innefective I can't believe it's a thing people buy. Rakes are better in every way and they actually sound very nice. Not as nice as a broom brooming pavement, that sounds best but a rake sounds good, too.

>>39798
I dont dislike them, I dislike how people use them. Most could use a push mover that is more quiet and doesnt send stones flying into cars windows and peoples faces but they use the wire thing even on totally flat surfaces because I dont know why.
Leaf blowers are not that popular here yet (fortunately) but I see them occasionally and it kind of feels like distopia. Like, will we have a machine for every single thing eventually?

>>39796
>>39801
I used to them for mowing the lawn, but that's because I am afraid of lawn mowers. The issue is that it just cuts grass and then leaves it there, that keeps it down but it doesn't look brilliant. So now I have a push powered lawn mower.

>>39798
Is the rake inferior to the broom for leaf sweeping in all types of ground? I think the rake only beats the broom when it comes to to sweeping hard-ish fruits on grass. These would be fruits that got bitten by animals and fell on the grass, so you would want to throw them away, but a broom would send them rolling aimlessly, while the rake holds them in their place. However I tried doing this a few months ago, and the fruits were a little soft and the rake was too hard on them, so I decided to pick them by the hand. I don't know if I'm missing something, but rakes don't seem very effective.

>>39796
I used my trimmer for the first time today after getting some string in the mail this morning. Noise bothers the hell out of me too, but I use an electric battery powered trimmer and mower. They don't make half as much noise as the gas powered ones most people around here use. I swear those things you can hear from a block away. They also come with the benefit of being able to start and stop them easily, no need for yanking away at a string. Who knows, maybe they'll grow in popularity for your area. Batteries for these things might be pricey, but buying and storing gas in containers can be a pain.

>>39801
I've seen people do that, and yeah I don't really get it. I specifically got mine to cut areas that are hard or impossible to reach with my mower. I tested it out a little on flat spots I missed with said mower, and found it sucks at that, hard. I pretty much ruined some spots doing that, taking the grass down to the dirt because it was hard to judge the height with the thing.

Post edited on 13th Jun 2022, 2:08pm

"Pride"
I don't care what you like, who you like, how you like it.
What I don't like, is having what you like constantly shoved in my face. I don't need to know or want to know what you get off to anymore than you want to know what I get off to. I don't take "pride" in my sexual interests, plaster it on flags and march down the streets announcing it to the world. Keep it to yourself, whatever it is, the way any civilized person would.

>>39850
Things that bother us are a good target to realize our attachments. Unchain yourself from expectations. That's what I try to do. Sorry, I'm preaching.
諸行無常 色即是空。

>>39850
Maybe it's because I'm a shut-in(probably), but I hear people complain about this MUCH more than I see what they're complaining about.

>>39852
I follow political shit because it's fun, and I can attest that it's pushed by massive corps, institutions, and government. Or at least it is in the States.
Though I think this discussion is more suitable for /tat/ than here.

>>39853
I'm not saying this about you, but your post got me thinking. While my view is that the vast majority of people, including myself, are "insignificant", they can still live an enjoyable life. So it makes more sense for a person to focus on that, instead of things they don't like and have no control over.

Image board, armchair pundits, are like vampires. Not only do they spend time doing the opposite of the above, they try to make others do the same. They do it under the pretense of an end goal, but there is no end goal. I am 100% certain it doesn't exist. It's a delusion. In 50 years, they wont be remembered by anyone, like everyone else wont be, except they'll have spent their limited time making each other miserable, for no reason what so ever. I guess a false of importance and control.

They can waste their lives like that. I don't want to be sucked into it though.

>>39854
People enjoy different things, and one can have more than one interest or hobby. That's all there is to it.

It would be nice to be able to completely block light from coming inside my room in an elegant manner. I suppose I can hang blankets and do some makeshift but it looks so depressing and ugly that way. Installing effective blinds costs money. I don't want to be in a cave 7 days a week but sometimes I do feel like spending the day in the dark. I supppose I can shut my eyes wrap a blanket around my head but then I can't the computer monitor.

>>39862
You can do it yourself, it doesn't cost that much money. Get one of the wrap around curtain rods (should be around $20), and then a blackout curtain (depending on window size, may be anywhere from $40 - $50).
The other option is to get that blackout cloth you install via suction cups, but honestly that seems more of a hassle to install/uninstall every time than the curtain rod solution.

Also be aware that to synchronize circadian rhythm, you need to be exposed to light after you wake up (ideally it would be outdoor light, but since most people here probably don't spend much time outdoors then even having the blinds up is valuable). Similarly using the computer in low light will contribute to myopia (or more specifically, lack of exposure to bright light is one of the contributing factors. Not known if this is still true outside the critical adolescent period, but then using in dark will also accelerate any existing myopia that you already have since in darker rooms you end up having to move the screen closer).

Homeless people. I just wanted to get some fresh air and relax on my shitposting bench as I often do on my late night walks. I was going to sit there for a few minutes and make a few low effort posts somewhere, but some homeless man was sleeping on the bench across from it.
Damn those homeless. So selfish and inconsiderate. I weep for the lost property value.

I hate that all modern things are designed to fail within a few years. Even fucking computer mice will fail within a year (including those overpriced gamer mice) all because they use shitty Chinese metal. And I'm not joking about that - 99% of all mice use switches manufactured by Omron, and it's been a known problem for about a decade that they end up failing within 2 years because the spring/bistable switch ends up either oxidizing or bending.

Jewelry is dumb. I've had it explained to me many times by my mom how jewelry is supposed to enhance a women's appearance. At best, I understand it on an abstract level. It can look nice on its own, or maybe even catch my attention(rarely), but it doesn't really make the woman look better, just richer.

The most interesting jewelry tends to not even be the most expensive, which are pretty much just wearable containers for a massive stone(s). I can't relate at all to getting excited over being given jewelry as a gift, like you've seen in a thousand western movies and tv shows. It doesn't perform any real function. It's not even clothing, which is a lot more noticeable.

At the end of the day, an attractive women dressed in rags will always be more appealing than an average rich woman whose decked out with fashionable clothes and has jewels strapped to their body and protruding from holes in their ears. Maybe I'm weird for thinking that, or maybe jewelry is less about catering to men and more about boosting their own ego and status among other women. So all in all, it's kind of disgusting to me.

>>39896
I don't mind it.
It can be symbolic or add interest, I used to wear a pentagram necklace when I was going through my witch craft chuuni phase and then a Thor's hammer necklace when I was going through that phase. I'll probably get more jewellery but just something that does not mean anything.

I have brought my sisters jewellery for Christmas as well, like a Norse wrist torque and a cool looking deer necklace. If you were to have two identical girls in identical clothing, then the one with the Norse wrist torque would look better I feel. As for diamond rings I would compare them to something like a Rolex(yes a Rolex technically has a function but nobody buys them for that). I don't think they are as interesting as a Norse torque or a pocket watch, but I think that given two identical people one with one without then the one with would still look better, but yes it's really just for status. But then if you can comfortably afford something like that then I don't see a harm in it.

>>39897
>one with would still look better
I wouldn't buy a rolex regardless of my income level. In my view it's old fashioned.
>if you can comfortably afford
Thing is, I bet most jewelry is purchased with the money people other than the wearer earned. The culture of it gets on my nerves most. It's decadent and evil, and I'm not saying that as a religious person. Winning a women over, by buying them excessively expensive things, is glorified prostitution, and I resent how normalized that's become. A person with no interest in jewelry is more virtuous in my opinion.

Post edited on 28th Jun 2022, 10:03am

>>39898
Don't let the customs of the world bother you anon. On this day and age, indifference is the closest thing to freedom we have.

>>39896
It doesn't make sense to me either. I also don't understand why woman do piercings for the purpose of wearing more jewelry.

>>39897
>I have brought my sisters jewellery for Christmas
That's very nice of you, anon. It's nice to have a decent relationship with your siblings. It's very good for your mental health, too, I've noticed. I hope you got a nice present as well.

I don't like the English language. If I could go without hearing it ever again, I'd be happier for it. I have nothing pleasant to associate with it and it flows very poorly in comparison to other languages.

>>39903
It's my mother tongue, so I'm biased, but I like how "straight forward" English sounds. No frills I guess. A lot of songs I like are in English too.

>>39904
I'm a native speaker as well. I still don't like it. I prefer Spanish. It's a little more fun to speak. Not that I'm fluent or anything, but I know enough to piece it together and give poor replies.
As for music, I don't really care too much about lyrics. I like interesting or pleasant sounds. As such, language doesn't matter.

>>39905
I'm a native English speaker, but I think it's just ok. It's not really elegant or classy, but it gets the job done I suppose – by virtue of it being an amalgamation of romance and germanic languages, it's relatively flexible and you can basically toss in whatever and it ends up sort of working out. I don't think it's good for songs though, because the pronunciation seems a bit too harsh to me (maybe it's all the consonants?). On the other hand

There's also probably a bias though where you're used to your native tongue so any other new language will seem more attractive.

>>39903
I like it but I hate it when it's spoken by Americans and Australians.

What I like about it is how diverse it is. Because it borrows from so many other languages everything can be said in multiple ways giving many different atmospheres and styles.

I think american english and australian english are worse than british english when it comes to accent and spelling, but some of the specific words from american english sound better to me. And then there's cases like "knowledge" which turns to "acknowledgment" in american english and "acknowledgement" in british english.

>>39914
I think -yze suffix works better than -yse suffix since otherwise z ends up being underused.

>>39914
I really hate American English words. They sound so dumb to me.

For example fall instead of autumn or ass instead of arse or armor instead or armour. Fall sounds like something a caveman would say, an ass is a donkey and armor is a bastardization. I can't think of an American word that sounds better and even the way the language is used with the same vocabulary is not great. In the same way they sound like cavemen when they turn autumn into fall, they also sound quite simple when they use phrases like 'it's cold out'.

>>39917
Autumn comes from French. British English has its own stupid and childish words. Like saying lift instead of elevator. Anyway, both me and Tohno are Americans, so watch this "they" language. Who do you think you're talking to? You sound like a homosexual, bitter europoor when you show disrespect like that.

Post edited on 30th Jun 2022, 10:03pm

>>39918
Many English words come from French.
Lift and elevator mean the same thing.
I know where Tohno is from but that is irrelevant. He's not going to ban people for speaking poorly of his nation and he would be a pretty poor admin if that was the case. After all it's not like this is a website for American patriotism and American culture.
The fact that you would even bring that up and that you then follow it with 'who do you think you are talking to' is absurd. What are you trying to say? That because you come from a specific country I have to treat you like a special snowflake and not say anything negative about your nation or you will tell the admin on me?

>>39919
>Lift and elevator mean the same thing.
Fall and autumn mean the same thing.
>What are you trying to say?
You're rude and pretentious. Despite putting on sophisticated airs, you don't understand the most basic level of tact. You know you're not amongst fellow snobbish, up their own ass europoors, so why do you act like you are?

>>39920
>The word autumn (/ˈɔːtəm/) is derived from Latin autumnus, archaic auctumnus, possibly from the ancient Etruscan root autu- and has within it connotations of the passing of the year.[15] Alternative etymologies include Proto-Indo-European *h₃ewǵ- ("cold") or *h₂sows- ("dry").[16]

>After the Greek era, the word continued to be used as the Old French word autompne (automne in modern French) or autumpne in Middle English,[17] and was later normalised to the original Latin. In the Medieval period, there are rare examples of its use as early as the 12th century, but by the 16th century, it was in common use.

They don't mean the same thing, probably. But also, while it is a borrowed word it is not borrowed for fall(the action) so it does not have the same connotations that using fall as a replacement for autumn has. The word Autumn is solely used for the season, we would never say autumn is the season where the leaves autumn off the trees. Fall(the season) however, does have tha cannotation becuase it is used in that context so it can easily be seen as caveman's English.

>You're rude and pretentious. Despite putting on sophisticated airs, you don't understand the most basic level of tact. You know you're not amongst fellow snobbish, up their own ass europoors, so why do you act like you are?
So in other words I am just acting exactly how you are? Well not exactly, I'm not also saying people aren't allowed to have negative opinions on where I come from and doing so makes them snobbish and pretentious. And what's even more ridiculous about all this is that you attacking me for insulting your nation while at the same time you certainly have no qualms in insulting the nations of others. Quite hypocritical I would say.

>>39922
>They don't mean the same thing
They do, because language is arbitrary and words mean what people agree upon. Literally nothing else is needed for a word to mean something.
>The word Autumn is solely used for the season
The word lift is not solely used for elevators. If your problem is with how fall sounds, and not insignificant, arbitrary etymology only insufferable pedants would care about, lift is no better. If your issue does stem from etymology, you're even worse than I thought.

>I am just acting exactly how you are?
When I insult you, I acknowledge your presence, do so directly, and it's a response to something. You said "they" in reference to a group of people, to that same group of people.

Post edited on 30th Jun 2022, 11:22pm

>>39923
Oh really? Then who agrees that autumn means fall(the action)? Go on, who?

Lift relates to what a lift does, which is of course the norm regarding the nomenclature of objects that have been invented in recent history. I am responding to you on a computer so named because it computes. This should not be applied retrospectively to all things or anything really. The reason we name new objects like that is because there isn't another name available and there aren't really any other ways to name then.

>When I insult you, I acknowledge your presence, do so directly, and it's a response to something. You said "they" in reference to a group of people, to that same group of people.
I'm Australian, notice how I did not feel the need to attack >>39914 nor did I even mention that I was Australian until now. I really don't see how me being Australian makes his point less valid or means that he has no right to his opinion. I certainly don't see why I personally should be so invested in what he thinks of my country. Even if I did somehow feel the need to defend my country, if he does not like how we speak then calling him a homosexual European would be unlikely to change his mind or result in anything constructive at all.

What else should I refer to Americans as? Am I not using the right pronouns? Are the Americans as a group not to be refereed to as they/them? It really does not matter whether you are a part of the American people or not I will still respond to them as they because that is how it is done. I am not criticising how you speak as an individual even if what I say about the Americans as a whole applies to you as well, I am referring to Americans as a Group.

Post edited on 30th Jun 2022, 11:37pm

>>39924
An elevator elevates. Lift is just lift. The word hasn't been changed at all. If it was lifter, that would be different.

>I did not feel the need to attack >>39914
Neither did I, because they were polite.

>Are the Americans as a group not to be refereed to as they/them?
Not when you're talking to them/in their presence. That applies to any group. And it should also be obvious that it's better to separate the language from the people who speak it when criticizing the language, you know, context. If you really didn't know that, maybe I was wrong to take issue with what you said. I assumed we all have the same basic understanding of politeness.

Post edited on 30th Jun 2022, 11:50pm

>>39925
It relates to the same thing. In this case elevator might be the slightly more apt word but only slightly so. It's nothing like the Autumn to fall comparison.

>Neither did I, because they were polite.
Just like how you were polite as well? It would not matter if he was rude. That's not going to make me feel the need to defend my country any more that it would if he was polite nor does it mean he therefore has not right to dislike our accent.

>Not when you're talking to them/in their presence. That applies to any group. And it should also be obvious that it's better to separate the language from the people who speak it when criticizing the language, you know, context. If you really didn't know that, maybe I was wrong to take issue with what you said. I assumed we all have the same basic understanding of politeness.
Did you storm Normandy? Did you send HIMARs to Ukraine? I don't know maybe you did but the proper way to speak of it would be they stormed Normandy, they sent Himars to Ukraine.
Additionally, you may notice that the post I replied to with 'they' did not state they were American so 'they' would have been the correct word even by your own logic. Unless you now think anytime Americans are mentioned you and Tohno should be addressed as third party instead. This of course would get ridiculous quite quickly, even in the context that we have hear. I don't know if Tohno says Autumn or fall, it would have been silly to say 'In the same way they sound like cavemen when Tohno and his patriotic friend turn autumn into fall'. I would be making assumptions and addressing two individuals when I am actually referring to the group.

>I assumed we all have the same basic understanding of politeness.

>You sound like a homosexual, bitter europoor when you show disrespect like that.
>You're rude and pretentious. Despite putting on sophisticated airs, you don't understand the most basic level of tact. You know you're not amongst fellow snobbish, up their own ass europoors, so why do you act like you are?


Well apparently not, I would not call that being polite. But then language is clearly not your strong point so maybe that is your understanding of being polite.

Strive towards peace, fellow travelers.

>>39926
Instead of
>In the same way they sound like cavemen when they turn autumn into fall, they also sound quite simple when they use phrases like 'it's cold out'.

You should have just said
>'It's cold out' also sounds quite simple.

I don't like having to be among people like you who are casually rude. Why would I want to talk to people who think they're better than me because they're pretentious, snobby pedants?

Post edited on 1st Jul 2022, 6:43am

>>39928
And you are not casually rude?

>You sound like a homosexual, bitter europoor when you show disrespect like that.
>You're rude and pretentious. Despite putting on sophisticated airs, you don't understand the most basic level of tact. You know you're not amongst fellow snobbish, up their own ass europoors, so why do you act like you are?

Might I also add that even if you think I am rude that rudeness is nothing on the level of your own as is clearly evident. Not just here by the way but in your general demeanour, if you look at my post you will find that I never actually insulted you personally until my last post where I said that language was not your strong point. Now it could be said that I have been snarky but again, that is nothing compared to you who has been quite rude and insulting form the very start and continue to be in every post while having the gall to then try to attack me for being rude. It's absurd.

>Why would I want to talk to people who think they're better than me because they're pretentious, snobby pedants?
I don't know, if that is what you think of me and you are question why you would do such a thing then why are you? Maybe this is improving your language skills?

As an aside, the word pretentious is a pet peeve of mine, well not the word but how and who it's most often used by. Funnily enough the word pretentious is most often used quite pretentiously as has been the case with your usage of the word. Because of course by accusing somebody of being pretentious the implication is that they are somehow pretending to know something they don't, acting in a way false manner that is not true to them or some other form of idiocy and by implying that you are also implying that these do not apply to you hence why I say it's the people that use the word that are the ones that are pretentious.

Post edited on 1st Jul 2022, 7:23am

>>39929
>And you are not casually rude?
Not casually. I do it with intent.

>why are you?
You're on the same website, and there isn't that many other users.

>by accusing somebody of being pretentious the implication is
My implication is that a pretentious person assigns a false significance or depth to something or someone. You go on and on about etymology like it's so important and justifies your tastes when it's not and doesn't. You could say autumn means "when it gets cold and dry" by the article snippets you posted. You ignore that fall was previously used in British English, and more often than autumn. You also ignore that the word harvest, in reference to that season, predates both in English. None of it matters in the first place, and you only pay attention to the parts which support your tastes. That's pretentious.

Frankly, I like fall(and harvest) more because it has an obvious connection to the rest of English. Autumn has its roots in Latin, but is more distant and remote. Language isn't more "sophisticated" when farther abstracted. You probably like the origins of words to be more esoteric because knowing the origin makes you feel "learned", like any other useless trivia.

Post edited on 1st Jul 2022, 7:43am

>>39930
And yet you still attack others for being less rude than you are...

>My implication is that a pretentious person assigns a false significance or depth to something or someone.
And who is it that decides what has a false significance or depth? Whoever thinks they are the one deciding that sounds quite pretentious.

>You go on and on about etymology like it's so important and justifies your tastes when it's not and doesn't.
Well it is important, if you are going to argue about langauge then you had best know the details on what you are arguing about just like if you are going to use the word pretentious then you had better know what it actually means.

>You could say autumn means "when it gets cold and dry" by the article snippets you posted. You ignore that fall was previously used in British English, and more often than autumn.
Yet it's not now.

>You also ignore that the word harvest, in reference to that season, predates both in English.
I have not ignored it, it was never brought up. Harvest is fine, well it was fine maybe not now. For an agrarian society naming a season after the defining event of the season makes some sense. It does not really make sense now as it's no longer relevant to the majority of people.

>None of it matters in the first place,
Then why are you arguing about it and why are you so defensive about it?

>and you only pay attention to the parts which support your tastes. That's pretentious.
Not really, I have addressed every part you brought up, even the part that you brought up in your head then attacked me for not addressing. That's also not what the word means.

>>39931
>That's also not what the word means.
>expressive of affected, unwarranted, or exaggerated importance, worth, or stature
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pretentious
Ignoring details that undermine your argument is a means of exaggeration. Your argument is that "fall" is somehow a base perversion of the english language.
>they turn autumn into fall

Post edited on 1st Jul 2022, 8:22am

>>39932

>expressive of affected, unwarranted, or exaggerated importance, worth, or stature
So not.
>you only pay attention to the parts which support your tastes. That's pretentious.

>Ignoring details that undermine your argument is a means of exaggeration.
Not really, I also don't think you know what is meant by 'exaggerated importance', it refers to a person exaggerating their own importance, not the importance of a point in an argument.

>>39934
>it refers to a person exaggerating their own importance
That's only the most common usage. There's no rule that says it can't be used in another context. A movie can be pretentious.

You said
>they turn autumn into fall
You ignore things which go against this insulting narrative.

Post edited on 1st Jul 2022, 8:30am

>>39935
I'll try to simplify this.

To be pretentious is to pretend to be something, the clue is in the word.
>expressive of affected, unwarranted, or exaggerated importance, worth, or stature
As you can see, that would be pretending, one is pretending to be important to have worth or to have status. But he does not or at least not to the degree he is pretending, hence the affected, unwarranted or exaggerated part.

It can be used in another context but not the one you are using. A movie could be attempting to come across as being an insightful commentary on the human condition or something like that but fail and so it's pretentious, it was pretending to be something that it was not.

If somebody was to ignore a point in an argument to exaggerate their own point as you talk about, that is not pretending to be something.

>You ignore things which go against this insulting narrative.
Ignore what? If I'm ignoring something then it's in your head because you have not mentioned it.

>>39936
>A movie could be attempting to come across as being an insightful commentary
>ignore a point in an argument to exaggerate their own point as you talk about, that is not pretending to be something
That's pretending the argument is true and insightful.

>Ignore what? If I'm ignoring something then it's in your head because you have not mentioned it.
You said, directly, Americans changed the word autumn to fall, and insinuated this says something negative about Americans. They didn't do that. And even if they did, it wouldn't say anything negative about them. Who are YOU to decide that's a downgrade?

>Fall sounds like something a caveman would say
Okay, everything you've said sounds like something a pretentious snob would say.

>>39937
It's pretending no such thing. Somebody could ignore a point in an argument that was a farce to begin with.
I think trying to use the word pretentious so liberally would only lead to ridiculous statements as well. 'The stick insect is pretentious because it's pretending to be a stick'.
'the child is pretentious because it's pretending what it says is important'.

>You said, directly, Americans changed the word autumn to fall, and insinuated this says something negative about Americans. They didn't do that.
Oh that is what you are so relied up about, because I said turn Autumn to fall instead of use Fall instead of Autumn. You are really reaching here.

But for what it's worth what I quoted before(it was from Wikipedia) about Autumn said it was in common use by the 16th century, implying that by the time the Americans revolted most of them probably were using Autumn not fall, so they probably did change from using Autumn to using fall rather than use fall from the early middle ages uninterpreted until now. But it hardly matters anyway, the pint is that the Americans use fall not Autumn.

>Who are YOU to decide that's a downgrade?
Who are you to decide who is a pretentious snob or a 'homosexual europoor'. Who is anybody to decide what language is better than another? Who is anybody to decide any such thing? I have my opinion and I voiced my reasoning behind it.

>Okay, everything you've said sounds like something a pretentious snob would say.
Who are you to decide that? Particularly when you barely knows what the word means.

Post edited on 1st Jul 2022, 9:14am

>>39938
>Who are you to decide that?
I have my opinion and I voiced my reasoning behind it. I'm confident many other people would agree with me, which is where language gets its meaning. I have nothing else to say.

I don't get why some artists do this. They make the closest thing to the observer appear less clear and sharp.

>>39940
If you imagine that it's being captured through a camera, isn't such a thing possible if you play with depth of field?

>>39941
Yes, I guess so. I hadn't thought about this possibility.

>>39942
Or it's point-of-view with the viewer being a farsighted ojisan

>>39940
It's to draw a certain aspect of the image into focus. Like would be done with a camera as was mentioned.

Having said that I don't know that there was much point doing that with this image.

>>39954
Yeah that particular picture isn't a very good application, since the fingertips are at about the same z-depth (give or take two inches) as the feet but only the latter are blurred. It can be applied thoughtfully though.

What's more annoying to me is deliberate chromatic aberration, which is nausea inducing and has few legitimate uses. There was even an entire show (Miru Tights) which seemed to revel in adding this to every frame.

Youtube Shorts.

I never really paid attention to it but I opened one and it opened it in some kind of scroll mode where you watch one and then scroll to the next.
I hated what I was seeing but I still scrolled down to see what was next for about 45 minutes to see what things were there. They were mostly really dumb short videos and I hate them, the only good videos were the odd Ukraine war clips but many of those were bad as well.
One Issue I have with them is that the majority of the, even the Ukraine war clips, have that really huge bass music often being mixed in with rap. God I hate that.

Half of them seemed to be highly sexualise in some way or another. Like one that kept coming up was a girl that would pose in net skirts or other see through skirts and then wave her bottom around.
There was a ballet girl that would do things like that, there were US, Israeli, German etc female soldiers making selfies and other things, there were girls doing all kinds of sexual things. There was some dumb clip where a guy appeared with a light sabre and text showed up saying saying 'pull the panty aside' and then another appeared with a light sabre and text saying 'rip off the panty' and it would go on like that like it was a competition about that kind of thing.

It was just dumb and there was something about it that shocked me. I guess it was the awful music, the girls doing poses everywhere, the dumb memes and everything else combining into a mess of awfulness and the idea that this is what society likes now, this is what society is now.

Things like this happen more and more these days. These events where I interact with mainstream society in some way and I am just shocked by it, shocked and disgusted by what we are becoming.

>>39979
Youtube is trying to compete with tiktok in the market for 5 second long videos people with social media induced adhd crave. They at least have the courtesy to label them, so they're easily avoidable.

Got banned on both wizchan and lainchan. Confuses me and enrages me because I didn't break any rules. I guess people hate my opinions and me as a person no matter where I go. I'm thinking about abandoning all chans and just living for studying things and enjoying entertainment in my solitude.

>>39982
Well I guess you just broke rule 15 here as well. Maybe you're a natural-born maverick, anon.

>>39983
I thought that referred to only people who came bursting in here with "HIU GUYS I'M FROM 4CHON, WHAT'S UP??" tier posts/threads, not to mentioning which imageboards you use aside from this site. Whatever.
But the annoying thing is I didn't break any rules on either lainchan or wizchan. It's just that the mods there disagreed with what I posted or how I posted it for some reason and that's enough. Well, like I said I plan on going full hermit anyway. There is no free speech anywhere on the internet, it seems to me. You say one wrong sentence or a turn of phrase and somebody will get upset and triggered and will ban you from their little echo chamber instantly. It's like everyone hates people who have slightly different opinions from them. I just want a place where I can discuss things freely and can argue/debate actually without fear of some tyrannical mod banning me for things I didn't even do.

>>39982
Lainchan will ban you for literally anything. I've gotten absolutely benign posts (asking for an anon to clarify his question on one of the technological boards) and about a day later, banned.
I wouldn't take it too much to heart since the bar for "quality posts" there is arbitrary.
>There is no free speech anywhere on the internet, it seems to me. You say one wrong sentence or a turn of phrase and somebody will get upset and triggered and will ban you from their little echo chamber instantly.
What gets me is that a lot of other imageboards claim they are free speech and then go ham with the ban hammer. imo If they were more honest about what sort of views and content is encouraged then I don't think many would have a problem when they remove posts.

Parents won't stop fighting the entire day, every single day. So sick of the noise. If only I wasn't incapable of going outside.

>>39993
There's nothing more awful than living with people who fight with each other all the time, specially couples. Apparently this is normal behavior and any healthy relationship has to include an high dose of arguing and screaming at each other. And I can testify it's certainly common, every single couple I had the misfortune to live with did it frequently.
Personally, if any person seem to start the habit of screaming at my face I will try to cut all contact and indefinitely after the second or third occasion at most. That's why I'm an absolute weirdo.

>>39995
Shrinks say it's a sign of "passion". If that's what passion is, I don't want it.

>>39991
Yeah, I noticed lainchan has a fascist moderation team, so to speak. Even though in their introduction to the site they write that free speech and discussion is encouraged and everyone's opinions are respected there and that they hate banning anyone...What a hypocrite chan that is. In my case I suspect their problem was either that they found my posts to be "anti-humanity" and "anti-women" or just generally too pessimist for their taste. The userbase would have been fine, there were a couple of posters that agreed with my views and we could have got a decent discussion going but the moddess stepped in.

As for wizchan, they thought I wasn't virgin enough for them, even though I am a 25 yo virgin. In one thread discussion about masturbation habits came up and I described how I started masturbating at 13, using my sister's dirty panties. They banned for breaking rule 2 which forbids people from mentioning that they want to have sex or that they had sex, I ask, how was my post a violation of that? I wrote to the wizchan mods that by this logic they could ban anyone who says he masturbates. They didn't even bother to explain how they think I broke rule 2.

Yes, things would be better if they had a clear set of rules and explaining what kind of posts they want to see on the chan exactly. But this whimsical, unchecked mod autismo is just too much.

>>39995
It is very awful, yeah. Especially when you get pulled down to the middle of it and everything, also. I think that behaviour is normal, as in it's normal that people act shitty, but it's definitely not healthy. Shrinks and anyone of that sort are all retarded.
My parents pull knives on each other though, so, I'd like to see them trying to call that healthy, lol.
I hope you've managed to get away from those kind of people.

>>39999
>they write that free speech and discussion is encouraged and everyone's opinions are respected there
It's cognitive dissonance. This sort is very common on imageboards because the people there feel restricted by mainstream and social media. So on the surface they adopt a stance which enables them, but they aren't really committed to. The imageboards which are really committed to "absolute free speech" are all spam and shitpost cesspools.

>>39993
>>40000
My parents used to yell at each other every single day they were in the house together when I was younger, and I'm pretty sure it messed me up. I don't really think about it much now, but I'm pretty thankful they barely ever fight these days.

I don't feel like I belong to this world at all. Never felt like it now that I think about it. At this point I'm quite sure any sense of belonging people experience are only illusions. Everyone is locked into his own ego and perspective. Any attempt at genuine empathy or understanding of others is bound to fail. Ordinary people doesn't realize this and they can live a relatively happy life, thinking communities are real and not just spooks. Nietzsche said madness is rare in individuals but the requirement for any sort of group or community. He was right.

>>40001
Yeah, it's depressing. Either shitposting or mods who abuse their power, usually no middle ground.

>>40007
What world you belong to then? Your use of language and the feelings you're sharing are very understandable to me and I definitely belong to this world. I'll be bold here and believe I know your own feelings better than you know them yourself, and I'll say what really happened is you can no longer deny you're part of this world. It's actually a matter of not liking how you're inserted in it. Desolation is very much a part of this world, I know that much. Also I think believing happiness comes from some sort of delusion is not a good way of seeing happiness, as you may come to believe you're above being happy, which nobody should be for their own good. I know you didn't say this but your post seem to imply it.

>>40008
I don't belong anywhere. My existence here is something that never should have been. My place is in Hades or just plainly non-existence. Certainly not here. Had several suicide attempts in the past. I feel out of place everywhere in this world and can't connect to anyone. This can be both a good, elevating feeling but also crushing and paralyzing at certain times.

I think the mere fact that we are having this conversation in the first place, the fact that we need to define more clearly what each of us means is proof enough that humans can't understand each other. You may think you understand me perfectly and vice versa but that's impossible. Language itself is imperfect. Our communication is flawed. We are islands in the ocean miles away from each other.

I don't think happiness is always the result of delusion but most of the time it is. Especially in the case of the average man.

I understand what you mean when you say I just don't like my place in the world but honestly I'm clueless about where my place is. Like I said, I don't feel I have any place in this life. I don't believe in other dimensions or higher/lower realms so I think my subconscious is just telling me to seek death/non-existence ASAP.

>>40010
A sense of belonging is not an illusion. At least not anymore of an illusion than the sense of not belonging. If we're locked inside our perspectives like you said, the same applies both ways. The fact we can have this conversation to me is evidence we can understand each other. Perfection is not something that exists and we shouldn't despair on its absence.

The number of perspectives we can take on this life are virtually infinite. There's necessarily a perspective out there for you to find comfort in this life. You didn't find it yet, but increasing the sense of desolation by forcing your way into believing you don't belong anywhere and feeding on tragic figures like Nietzsche is probably not how you'll get there. This is quite obvious but you should focus instead on things that might lead to your happiness, not finding ways to justify your misery.

It might be something long-term like learning to play an instrument or a second language, or it might be something that will last for a week or even a single day, it depends, but you should pursue something that will bring you some joy in life. I'll give you an example. Yesterday I spent the whole day gazing at the illustrations of an artist, Mr. Hiroshige. He did these amazing potted-plant scenes which I really love. I recently bought a plant myself and after going through some instructions I'm taking care of it with considerable success. Looking through these I'm now considering to try to make a bonkei myself. It might not be much, but it's enough to keep me happy and busy for the next few days, who knows, maybe longer. If you suspect you're clinically depressed, then you should seek medical attention, if you haven't.

>>40012
I had gone to various doctors through the years but I found their advice to be nothing more than simple common sense, things I already thought about myself at some point or another. Yes, get a job, go among people, etc. It makes sense. But in practice they aren't as enjoyable, to me at least. All I was diagnosed with is serious depression. They gave me pills but all they did was to make me high energy. They didn't take away the emptiness, they didn't take away the sorrow, the pain. They didn't give me something to live for. They didn't give me strength to endure life. In psychiatry ward too, I felt like the odd one among all the relatively functional and social people like drug/alcohol/sex addicts and even the genuinely crazy people seemed more normal in some ways than me. So anyway, I stopped taking medication and going to doctors. They can't understand me, they are functional people who read about some conditions in text books but they don't know anything about them personally. Honestly, I question even the usefulness of psychiatry and psychology, they seem like fake science to me, considering everything is labeled a personality disorder basically at this point.

There are things I enjoy in life, I don't have a problem with that. I like my hobbies. Maybe way too much. I think my hobbies are 50% the reason I am still alive, the rest of the 50% is my family. But when the pain and sorrow come I can't do anything. They hit hard and crush me. I don't think I violate the rule by this because she isn't my gf and we never even met, we just wrote to each other online for months. She lives near me and I am forced to face the fact that she is married to a subhuman 90IQ guy because he has money. I like her, love her, never loved anyone else in my life except her. She would be perfect for me, both in terms of looks and personality. She is 17 years older than me and I am pretty sure she likes me too but is too afraid to start an affair behind the back of her husband. She lives a couple of kms from me and I can't even meet her nor can I talk to her any longer because we had an argument. So nowadays this is one of the most painful things for me, I think about this thing day after day and can't forget her.

I don't really read philosophy much anymore, got disillusioned by the whole thing. I searched and searched for some wisdom but never found that much of it anywhere. I type out my thoughts and feelings into a txt file from time to time so I have something else to do when I am bored of reading and watching things.

>>40013
So that's the issue. TC is not the place to talk about 3D romantic aspirations anon. I wouldn't be able to give you any insight about those things anyway. I'll just tell you I really doubt a person with a husband, married for money and old enough to be your mother to be perfect for you. At least she has the insight of not talking to you anymore. Don't pursue this, you would only ruin the lives of 3 people, yours included. This situation looks wrong and even dangerous. I hope you can muster the strenght to walk away from it.

>>40012
>A sense of belonging is not an illusion
>There's necessarily a perspective out there for you to find comfort in this life.
Pessimistic philosophies would differ. Under that viewpoint, there's an inherent contradiction where finding "comfort" is only possible if you fool yourself, but usually the kind of person who asks these questions is interested in analyzing the world so isn't going to be satisfied with that. Zappfe basically states it better than I can. He doesn't really give any prescription though (nor do I think one is warranted), so what you do with that knowledge is up to you.

>It might be something long-term like learning to play an instrument or a second language
All of those are ultimately ways to pass the time. In my opinion, if you subscribe to pessimist philosophy (which for your own sake if you're not already familiar with you should refrain from looking into, for breaking the veil of life is a one-way door) then the only "prescription" is to try to find opportunities to set aside consciousness and pass the time. You might think that at first glance this sounds similar to some buddhist philosophies or whatever but it's really not – it is a point-blank acceptance that the evolution of consciousness and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race (to borrow kacyzinski's phrasing), and that if you're not willing to kill yourself (which is hard to do because it directly fights with our core biological instincts) the next best option is to spend time like a mindless animal. Zapffe mentions some of these techqniues (isolation, anchoring, distraction, sublimation), and sublimation/distraction/isolation are probably the best of these techniques. Note that I make no mention of "Meditation" here (with a capital M because that's how the entire world seems to perceive its weight significance), but at the end it's really just another technique to bide the time. Getting absorbed in a video game, or absorbed by watching anime is just as good for that purpose.

But it's unfortunately really hard to remain in such an "autopilot" state permanently, and when you're no longer immersed in an activity the brain's default mode network activity resumes and you're thrust back into that contemplative existence.

>>40014
Yes, I know this isn't the place to discuss this in detail, just thought I'd mention it since it is related to my depression very much and technically I don't have a romantic life or gf or wife, the most we did was texting and flirting online. I never met her irl. Aside from this, she was my only friend. And I am the reason we don't talk anymore, I said lots of mean and unwarranted things to her. I regret it so much, I didn't expect any actual romance out of it, but she was a friend too and well, I'm lonely. I don't think I can get over her, ever.

>>40015
I think the question is: is it worth it to be happy at the cost that comes with the buddhist or stoic way of life? I used to respect ascetic philosophies and schools of thought which were concerned with reaching some state of calm tranquility. But these days, I don't think they are the satisfying answer. Man was made to suffer. It's evident by how much effort, self control and practice is required in order to reach ataraxia/nirvana. I don't think it is worth it, to close off your sense perception and to become a statue or rock. Rather live as an actual human, deriving real joy from life and even experiencing crushing sadness/suffering too instead of living in a plastic calm. I feel the tragic hero archetype closer to me than the ascetic monk ideal.

>>40015
I'm sure they would differ, as pessimistic philosophers have to believe to have reached the ultimate truth and that truth is terrible. They have to believe that otherwise they wouldn't be pessimistic philosphers. Is that right? Correct me if I'm wrong but you seem to adhere to this when warning me not to read about pessimism for it cannot be outmatched. As if nothing can beat it, for it's the 'real reality of things'. But if you don't believe in an ultimate reality about human existence, then any ultimate truth any thinker may find, beautiful or terrible, can easily give way to a million other ways of seeing life, all it takes is a gentle push. That's how I feel about pessimism, it comes and goes like any other thought, it's not special or any more solid. Of course for a pessimist it is special and more valid and that's where we would part ways I suppose.

I view pessimism the same way I view people whipping themselves. I think I just don't have a core belief for pessimism to take root. I simply don't believe a single value for human consciousness and experience can be reached. And honestly when I think about it, it sounds like what a religion would strive for, and if it comes to that I rather be a Buddhist than a pessimist. For obvious reasons, for one, I find it silly to believe happiness is a delusion but sadness isn't. It should go both ways and Buddhism is closer to it. Then Buddhist art is beautiful and pessimists are 3D and ugly. I'm joking, but not completely. But ultimately being a pessimist is to dig yourself into a hole, this is what I believe. To use your intellect to undermine the authenticity of happiness is such a weird, unrewarding form of martyrdom. It's also rather irresponsible as contriving ideas to linger in desolation and misery might lead people who are lost in life to be even more miserable, it's not a compassionate act, which I think should be preferred.

I apologize in advance if I made any wrong assumptions regarding your thoughts on this matter.

>>40016
I understand you're hurt. I don't know how old you are but you strike me as very young and it might be too rash on your part to believe so firmly time will not heal your wounds. Continue to live, you might be pleasantly surprise. A tragic hero lives for himself and his own pain, that's why his tragedy is magnified and it feels even worse. Don't you think tragic heroes are tragic because ultimately they take themselves too seriously? In contrast, ideally, a monk will withhold his own enlightment to be a positive force in the life of others. You don't close your perception, instead you turn it toward others. No one is enlightened until every single person is enlightened. Compassion is above even Nirvana. If you made friends before, you can do it again, I'm sure there are many people in this world wishing to have a friend, just like you are.

>>40017
>pessimistic philosophers have to believe to have reached the ultimate truth and that truth is terrible. They have to believe that otherwise they wouldn't be pessimistic philosphers.
Yes that's tautologically true, those who didn't subscribe to that philosophy wouldn't be pessimistic philosophers.

Despite its name, subscribing to a pessimist philosophy doesn't mean you're resigned to unhappiness though (although it does so happen that those who are depressed are more likely to undergo the line of thinking that leads them to this philosophy). Zapffe himself wasn't exactly depressed (at least from what I could see, it's a bit hard to find stuff about him since not much was translated) and spent his time climbing mountains and doing photography. Same for other artists as well. To subscribe to pessimism only requires one to abandon the notion of doing things with some grander purpose beyond yourself, and avoid engaging in the act of self-deception as you continue your existence. There's no reason why you can't still watch movies or write poetry if that's what you like, so long as you recognize that it's ultimately just another means of biding time. Maybe this is closer to nihilism than pessimism, I don't really know since all the philosophical ramblings are ultimately just word salads.

As for happiness vs. sadness, I see both as just byproducts of consciousness which is the real root issue. So in that sense neither are "real". But both of those are loaded words, I prefer to see it as satisfaction vs. dissatisfaction, and it's far easier to end up in the latter state than the former, so there is an asymmetry in that sense.

To me the issue with buddhism is that they invoke the notion of rebirth. If you remove that, then it's not really too far off from the above. With any non-material elements removed, the notion of "enlightenment" really just seems like the state of the lack of consciousness. Not necessarily death (although that would count as one form), but a state where you manage to shut down all higher-order cognition and basically revert to an animal-like state, operating only on instinct. In such a state there is no emotion, no turmoil, you live only "in the moment" as it were. It is of course impossible to survive in the modern world under such a state, which is another part of the paradox.

>>40017
> It's also rather irresponsible as contriving ideas to linger in desolation and misery might lead people who are lost in life to be even more miserable, it's not a compassionate act, which I think should be preferred.
(Addendum to previous post):
I also fundamentally disagree with this. It's the same reason that talking about suicide is verboten. It is based on the presumptuous belief of an optimistic bias towards life and that people who question this view are "wayward children" who must be corrected. Of course I perfectly understand _why_ this behavior arises, it's a form of social self-preservation. But if you're going to put on a pretense of believing people have independence, then you should treat them accordingly and not withhold information, allowing them to come to their own conclusions.

>>40020
I actually agree with you, I wouldn't want pessimists to be banned or forbidden to think and say whatever it is they want to say, that would be absurd. I prefer people to be able to say whatever it is they want to say much the same way I prefer to be allowed to express how I find a line of thought to be irresponsible like I just did. In regards to >>40018 there are many things I disagree regarding what you think Buddhist enlightenment is like, comparing it with reducing yourself to instinct, death, shutting down brain faculties and lack of consciousness, which doesn't have any support on any Sutta I've read nor in any common sense assumption you can make by having any biographical knowledge about Buddha. Animals, the dead and people asleep are not considered enlightened in anyway and Buddha continued to be a normal adult making full use of his brain for over 40 years after reaching enlightenment. But I feel like I would get preachy and long winded trying to explain what I think Buddhism is, besides I'm nobody of importance, you can read any sutta or sutta commentary by actual monks and scholars on the internet if you like and they're a better use of your time than any post I could make. I would just be parroting them anyway.

>>40021
>Animals, the dead and people asleep are not considered enlightened in anyway
Forget about what the texts consider as enlightened for a moment, why wouldn't you consider animals as enlightened? It's only man that sits around worrying about things, contemplating existence, the right way to behave, issues of ethics or morality, and suppresses its desires. Animals don't do any of that (*). They probably do have some rudimentary thoughts (although what you define as "thought" becomes fuzzy since our only frame of reference is ourselves. I imagine animal "thought" is basically just how they interpret raw stimulus) but it's not structured in the form of our own thoughts.

But with humans thought is intertwined with knowledge and experience, and this gives rise to long-term planning, reasoning, recognition, etc. It's a double-edged sword though. Animals certainly don't exist in a "desireless" state – if they feel hungry they go out and kill prey – but there's no higher-order reasoning associated with it. Whereas with the human, it's ironically that meta-self-awareness that is what makes you realize a desire is a "desire" and is something that you try to suppress in line with societal views.

If you eliminate consciousness, there's no problem to be solved in the first place. Dying, living, etc. wouldn't really matter in that case. Of course this is only possible if you accept a materialist viewpoint that there is no spirit or soul or whatever.

(*) You might say that you don't do any of that, in which case I congratulate and envy you. But the fact that religion and spirituality exist – people concerning themselves with the "best" way to live to achieve some goal (which they delude themselves into thinking will be something like "permanent tranquility") indicates that there's a non-trivial fraction of humanity who are victims of their own consciousness.

>>40022
I understand the term enlightened as a higher level of awareness. Diminishing, destroying or mutilating your tools for awareness is not enlightenment, not in my view, nor in any Buddhist context I'm aware of. To be clear, enlightenment to me is a way of being more aware, not less.

>>40023
Awareness of what though? It's still a bit of a vague word. Once this state of enlightenment is reached, how do you expect your experiences will differ from how they currently are. Eliminating consciousness is in my opinion precisely that form of enlightenment where your experiences become unfiltered – with consciousness eliminated, thoughts and knowledge no longer get in the way of raw experience. That is to say, you can look at a table without needing to tell yourself that it's a table (that is to say because you no longer access knowledge, you won't even have any idea what a "table" is. To you, it would just be another flat looking thing). All your actions become are unmediated without the meddling of thought, simply responses to stimuli.

>>40024
Awareness of the world around you. It's not vague but it does depend on what traditions of thought you find yourself in, same with everything I suppose. If you want a Buddhist metaphor for it, it's like sharpening a blade. The process of enlightenment is a sharpening of your awareness. You're telling me you threw the blade in the river and is calling that sharpening a blade. We have a term to act unfiltered, it's instinct, also one for the end of consciousness, it's death. You want to call it enlightenment, I wouldn't. If you're a pebble, then you're impervious to all suffering. Is that enlightenment? It's being a pebble. Enlightenment is not being impervious to suffering, it's how you deal with suffering while being aware it exists.

Sakurazaka46's new song came out. K-pop is a disease and it needs to be contained. Making idols do hip-hop breakdancing, are you fucking kidding me? Hot garbage. HOT GARBAGE! BOO! BOO! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

From what I can tell based on my limited knowledge, Buddhism and eastern religions in general are all about reaching a HIGHER state of awareness, like the buddhist poster here says. Awareness of what? Of ideals and laws. The enlightened monks and gurus keep all the laws of their religions, which usually place a big emphasis on not hurting anything around them. Even if they suffer much and die an early death, they try to live a moral/virtuous life and to be someone who keeps all the laws. The ideal of buddhism is exactly ultra-self-control and being super-conscious, not the opposite.

What the other, pessimist poster says is enlightenment is the opposite of buddhist enlightenment. It is a state where instincts rule and direct everything you do. That is wild, non-epicurean hedonism or egoism.

>>40017
I am 25. I don't know if getting friends is worth it anymore. I got rejected and ignored by others so much that quite frankly I hate humans. Whenever I meet or am forced to interact with anyone irl who isn't part of my immediate family I go on the defensive and start behaving in passive-aggressive ways. There is only so much pain/bullying one can take from the community before he becomes anti-social completely. I feel pity for those who are outcasts like me and people who can't defend themselves or get bullied by society like homeless people or semi-autist/aspie loners. Probably because I see myself reflected in them. But the majority? God, I do hate them so much.

I'm not that much of a sceptic as you are. Life might be one big illusion but it feels real and we perceive it as real. It doesn't matter from which angle I look at this world, it is just horrible. All the suffering and horrors outweigh the good things easily. I can't pretend that this world or existence is okay or fun.
I don't think being a tragic hero needs to be all about seriousness, there are certainly times in life when one can only laugh at all the stupidity and cruelty or even at himself. In fact, the fun times only increase the forces of suffering when they come again. I do have compassion, to tell the truth I think even more than most people have nowadays. But my compassion is egoistic, I feel sorry for those who are like me only.

This world, I'm tempted to believe at times, was created by a gnostic evil deity. It is just perfect ground for suffering and horror.

I quite like this world.
Even if I dislike the people in it and dislike them more as time goes on and society get worse. I see no need to befriend them in the first place so it does not matter much.

I like the world itself and I don't need to have friends to enjoy that. If I could live by myself and watch anime and read books, I would be happy.

>>40036
There are times when I feel like that too. Then life steps in and slaps me hard across the cheeks to remind me not to get too comfortable. Poverty, illnesses, accidents, disasters, little troubles here and there and I realize even if you don't have to put up with the retarded things of others, life is still very hard and merciless.

summer not fucking off already
cause its 40 degrees and when i wake up im soaked in sweat and its really uncomfortable
plus i havent showered in over a month so i guess it makes that case worse
wouldnt be a big deal in the winter
also literally cant go outside while its summer that sucks too
although theres that school starts back up once summer ends so never mind guess i need it to stay here

>>40047
If you don't have ac, and it tends to be cooler at night, I'd strongly recommend a window fan. No installation is needed, you just open a window at night, put the thing there, and cool air will blow into your room.
>i havent showered in over a month
That's gross any time of year, anon.

The concept of "influencers". It's such a bizarre and creepy "cultural phenomena". How anybody calls themself one with a straight face is a mystery to me.

I hate tan lines. I have a very defined one on my arm between paper white and pasty. I'll just have to stop wearing a shirt outside.

>>40050
It seems like something that started out as a sort of pseudo-derogatory term, I have no idea when or why people started to refer to themselves as such seriously.

>>40052
They look pretty nice on 2D girls at least.

>>40054
Sure, but most things do.

>>40053
I thought of it more as a doublet of influenza, a viral disease, and then again 'viral' is a synonym for trending.

People loitering in parking lots. I went to the store as I sometimes do, and there were a ton of kids hanging out in the Waffle House parking lot. They were blasting music too, but surprisingly it was Slayer and not some sort of rap music.
I don't get why they'd go some place that was open. There's a shopping center across the road with big empty parking lots. Dumb kids.

>>40064
Going out into the street in a group and listening to loud music...what's the good in this? I don't get it. Is it some mating ritual normal people do?

>>40065
Not much to get I guess, usually people like to be out and about with friends and usually they also like music. It's also easy to understand people are usually annoying, and most of the time they don't even want to be, it's just the end result of them being themselves (and you being you).

>>40067
But why can't they just go to a club or hang out at one of their houses? What is the fun in blasting loud music in the street, annoying others? Seriously, I want Covid restrictions to be back because of things like this.

>>40069
My theory is that it's because it gives them a false sense of importance and control.

>>40069
>why can't they just go to a club or hang out at one of their houses?
My guess is that they were in school on their summer break or something. Too young to go anywhere social, live with their family so they can't do it at home.
Still, they had better options than a small parking lot with traffic.

Does anybody know any practical way to identify an insect/bug? There was this gross thing in my desk, I tried all descriptions but nothing comes out.
The creature looked like a cylindrical very small, near half a centimeter, very slow bug. It was very hairy and had hairs sticking out from every inch of its body.
Does somebody recognizes this thing?

>>40080
Sounds like a maggot or caterpillar. Knowing your location would help.

>>40081
>>40080
And a picture.

>>40081
South America. I live 10 min from the Atlantic Ocean. I never gets below 20 degrees in here.

I really hate to see people getting upset because someone did something weird. For example, if someone were making a sexdoll and they wanted to share, most places would give responses along the lines of "WTF, kill yourself". While I might not want to make one myself, I really find it interesting how one would go about doing it and the resources they use. Sure, it's not "normal", but isn't it kind of cool? It's a real project, that requires real solutions to real problems. It could even be applied for something "normal" like making Halloween decorations or something.
That's just one example, but really, I think people are missing out for stupid reasons. There's a lot you can learn from even if it wasn't applied in a way that you approve of.

>>40130
Eh. That's why places with "normal people" should be avoided when sharing anything.

>>40131
Well, I certainly wouldn't share in those places. It's just a little sad when I see it, even if it's rare these days.

>>40130
>Sure, it's not "normal", but isn't it kind of cool?
For me personally, I just feel a strong twinge of sadness when I see stuff like that. It's heartbreaking whenever people find themselves turning to dolls as a substitute for the genuine human connection that they've either given up on having or have never believed they could achieve. Not to be all melodramatic or anything, but it's probably a sign of deep cultural malaise too.
I don't understand "normal people" lashing out in anger over it, though, but "normal people" these days seem to get angry at the pettiest things.

>>40133
>genuine human connection
Doesn't exist, and people who fall for this are deluding themselves. My only qualm with sexdolls though is that they're in the uncanny valley. 2D is perfect precisely because it exists as a platonic ideal-type abstraction. Anything you try to bring into the real world is going to be imperfect, and sexdolls exist in that in-between realm where it's trying to reify something that's best left in the realm of ideas.

>>40133
>turning to dolls as a substitute for the genuine human connection
I'm convinced "genuine human connection" only exists in fiction, or is exceedingly, exceedingly rare. Relationships in real life are either very limited in their intimacy, transactional, or based on deceit(or a combination of the three).

People crave relationships in spite of this because of biological imperatives. Where do you get your source of emotional gratification?

>I don't understand "normal people" lashing out in anger over it
It's an existential threat to their value system.

>>40134
>>40135
By "genuine human connection," I literally just mean "not uncanny valley dolls." I'm not exactly setting the bar very high, lol. I know modern relationships have serious flaws of their own.
I just can't help but feel that twinge of sadness for people turning to inanimate objects for what they can't have in real life. I'm not even criticizing them for doing it, really, just expressing my own gut feelings on the subject.

>>40133
I don't really care. If they want to do that, they should go for it. I was mostly talking about the construction. There's plenty of ways to rig up a skeleton and emulate flesh, depending on how accurate you need it to be. I like to see how people bring their ideas to reality, especially if it involves unconventional methods.
>>40134
>Anything you try to bring into the real world is going to be imperfect
I agree. I'm happy with the fictional things I love as they are. No form of replication can be perfect, but I think it's okay to try if you can accept that. Think of a child drawing something they like. It's probably far from the source material, but isn't it still nice?

>>40137
Oh yeah, the construction side of things is probably interesting if it's a well-made doll. Not disputing that.

>>40136
>I literally just mean "not uncanny valley dolls."
Aside from appearance, they're better than people in a few important ways.

>modern relationships have serious flaws
I don't buy this blaming the modern world thing. Have some things gotten worse? Sure. Were things ever good in the past? I don't think so. Idealized depictions of love have been around for hundreds of years. In real life though, human nature makes such things impossible. It's a not a consequence of culture.

>people turning to inanimate objects for what they can't have in real life
I'll ask again, what do you turn to? You're separating yourself from "those people", so you must have an alternative.

Post edited on 27th Jul 2022, 8:33pm

>>40139
>idealized depictions of love have been around for hundreds of years
Indeed, it's a common trope in romance novels that people fall for the idealized version of a person, and the difference between that facade and the real person leads to friction that ultimately leads to the downfall of that romance. Real-life relations are necessarily founded upon a basis of deceit and treachery because people selectively expose themselves to the other – real people are selfish and self-centered at heart, but people conceil this.

Why bother falling for a facade of a "real person" when you might as well avoid the act of self-deception and find comfort in a fiction that you at least admit is fiction.

>>40134
Platonic ideas are not 2D, they're 4D you fool! The 3D realm is a reflection of the 4D ideas, and 2D art is a reflection of a reflection, twice removed from reality. The philosopher that you're looking for to justify 2D art is schopenhauer.

>>40142
>Platonic ideas are not 2D, they're 4D you fool
I've never actually read plato, I guess you're referring to his ramblings on allegory of the cave stuff where he probably would refer to the world of forms as some forth dimension that the real world is merely a slice projection of. I don't subscribe to the theory of forms stuff, I only meant to use the term "platonic ideal" as a metaphor.

Thus by 2D being a "platonic ideal [of] abstractions" I meant that
1) thoughts/ideas can be made flawless by fiat, i.e. you can conceptualize your ideal scenario that maximizes your personal value function
2) Media (art, books, shows, etc.) are basically a way to transfer ideas from the author to you. It just so happens that mangaka have mastered the art (moreso than their western counterparts) of distilling the essence of emotions we tend to find satisfying (friendships, romance, lust, etc.) and conveying those ideas in a form that you can readily adopt yourself.

>>40144
I understand what you meant. I just wanted to point out that strictly speaking the kind of 2D adoration that takes place here is schopenhauerian, not platonic.

Carpeted floors. In a house, except for rooms where things get cleaned or cooked, the floor should be made of wood, or something else that's hard but not plastic. And then if you want, you can put a rug on top of that. Carpeted floors are the devil.

>>40185
I don't mind carpeted floors or floorboards, but what I hate are floors that are on top of a concrete slab which is how houses are built in my country now, so a carpet is pointless because the floor is still hard and so are floorboards.

The casting of non-athletic actresses as physically strong characters. Meanwhile, most actors in such roles are practically contractually obligated to take steroids.

First person games on console. The controls feel really awkward and imprecise. They also don't let you change the FOV, so it feels really cramped. I don't know how I did it in the past. Out of necessity I suppose...

4/jp/ sucks. Laugh if you want, but I tolerated until recently everything because it felt a little sad to leave. I don't know why, but only recently it's become clear that I haven't been having any fun posting there. I like another /jp/ far more.
I wanted to try and make a change, but that was a very ambitious idea to say the least. I learned it was fucked from the start. Otaku Culture is too broad of a topic to please anyone. I've seen complaints about TC for having a large amount of boards, but I think it was a great choice. I don't think there is a better place on the internet for anonymous discussion than TC. The fact that it is as fast as it is, as well as the age of the site means that there is a higher than average concentration of people with experience and knowledge of the topics it covers.
TC is the most best and wonderfullest website evar!

>>40211
Yeah I think it's a bit hard for one person or even a handful of people to make any kind of change (for the better) in places with that many people. Your efforts can easily be drowned out by people who put in no effort.

>>40212
I did start a nice thread. I'm considering continuing it, even if it isn't super popular. Maybe /jp/ sucks, but I want to give those poor bastards that have stuck around for some time something to enjoy every once and a while. Maybe some of the new blood can enjoy it too.
I think maybe I can take pride in it, even if 4/jp/ sucks. While I might not be as active there as I once was, at my heart I am an otaku. I will discuss my interests in better places while trying to get those young and new people into those older things.
4/jp/ may be dead, but I'll give my best to teach the young and new posters a taste of otaku culture beyond touhou (not that it's bad, but I think a lot of kids think that's all there is these days).
Yeah, I think getting older won't be so bad if I can provide guidance to the young.

>>40213
I'm of the opinion that it's futile. Unless they're young children, people tend to find out things they want to know on their own. This even applies to word of mouth since people choose who they spend time with. I'm saying this as one of those "young people".

>>40214
I'm young too, and what I've come across is word of mouth as well. I'll admit I'm slow to get to things, especially after spending 5 or so years without remotely decent internet access. I guess I just want to spark interest. I used to be extremely picky, but I'm pretty happy with most things I consume these days. I imagine someone out there is the same as me, that they want to catch up on the best of yesteryear like I did. Even today, I rarely watch any current anime or read anything new. There is just so much to catch up on.
I really wish I had okay internet those 5 years, but at the same time, I wonder if I'd be no different from most young folk. I'm pretty satisfied with my shitty 2014 culture.

Hipster "music genres". My theory, is that the music industry and amateaur music, is so oversaturated, people think if they can't become prominent in a genre most have heard of before, at least they can become "prominent" in a genre invented last thursday. So new ones are constantly being invented for this purpose under false pretenses.

You could take any adjective and any noun, and invent a new music genre. How about "cold jive". It's uuuuuugh high-pitched club music with christmas bells. Yeah, that deserves its own genre designation. Or how about "garbage gyrate". It's club music, but it sounds really bad on purpose.

The people that like this crap are 99% of the time pretentious and mentally ill, like any other kind of hipster. It's all bullshit and I can't stand it.

>>40269
What, not a fan of "deep progressive electronic gyaru trance?"? It consists of synthesized music sung exclusively by gyaru girls mesmerizing you with their VJ skills.

It's so niche you can't even find it on [1] or [2]!

[1] https://everynoise.com/
[2] https://music.ishkur.com/

Post edited on 18th Aug 2022, 10:11am

"Modern" board games. There's people constantly coming up with new games that have contrived systems with cards and pieces and all kinds of overly complicated mechanics, and usually a luck component. So you have to learn all these rules and shell out like $50 for a proprietary board game. Plus there's some lore tacked on. It appeals to this little niche of people who endlessly eat up the same high fantasy nonsense.

So you're paying all this money to play and learn games probably nobody will know or care about in 50 years. That's a tough sell, and they know it, so in every other way they play it safe. Even though there's all this artwork attatched and these custom figurines, there's no sex appeal in any of these games. Nothing that would offend your mom or people on reddit. So the one thing that could appeal to me isn't there.

I think western high fantasy nerd, male feminists are a pretty big part of the market for these things, and that's reflected in how samey and lifeless these games are. I've hated every person I've met in real life like that. There's also the kind of boring, prudish faggots that post of /tg/. The people that design these games are so proud of themselves too. I've been on their forums. They take themselves very seriously and they have conventions and shit.

And then there's board and cards games meant for average people, which are intentionally easy and have a large luck component. I don't like any of it.

Post edited on 18th Aug 2022, 1:57pm

Light switches with dimmers.
Mine in particular has a really bad design, it's a slider right beside the light switch itself. After a while at normal brightness it'll cause my light to flicker at a just barely noticeable frequency. Any dimmer and it always will. Maybe it's better without what is presumably the cheapest one that could be installed when the house was built.
This of course isn't my only issue. I just hate dim lights in general. I either want light or no light with no in between. Even if I did, a singular ceiling light is not enough to provide a pleasing dim lighting. Candles and lamps are infinitely better.
Would dimmer light switches really sway someone's opinion in buying a house? Or maybe it's just a cool extra along with other useless stuff to make it feel "modern"? Just seems like more shit that will go wrong someday.

>>40346
>>40346
Are you using an LED bulb? If so, it is most likely an issue with both the bulb and the dimmer. Allow me to weave a tale:

Back in the day where good old incandescent bulbs were used (and in terms of light quality these are the gold standard, by definition the reference of blackbody spectrum), dimmers could be simple and basically only needed to throttle the current to the bulb, and physics took care of the rest. A variable resistor suffices for this, although of course this disspiates energy in the resistor itself so is ineffecient.

To make this more efficient, it was found that instead of playing with current, we could effectively do some PWM modulation, and hence we got TRIAC/leading-edge dimmers. Note that Unlike the variable resistor dimming which still supplied a smooth current waveform, with triac dimming you get a choppy current. But incandescents still don't care because thermal inertia smooths things over. Note that you could also chop out the trailing-edge of the waveform (trailing-edge dimmer), but for some reason this was not as widespread (probably easier to build a circuit for leading-edge chopping?).

Now you get to LEDs. These were made to spite on mankind and ensure we would never enjoy good quality lighting. Not only do they have terrible CRI and an unnatrual spectrum (consider that we evolved with fire, which incandescents sort of mimic – deep reds and infrared region – compared to LEDs which have almost no deep red in their spectrum), and manufacturers cheap out on components leading to 120hz flicker, but they cannot be easily dimmed.

Due to their on/off nature, lowering current doesn't work so the only solution is PWM dimming. Now it's possible to implement this right such that it's practically unnoticeable by doing the PWM'ing at a very high frequency, but considering that manufacturers won't even throw in a smoothing capacitor to reduce 120hz rectifier ripple you can bet they're not going to do that.

So that means to get our LED to dim we have to hook it up to a leading/trailing-edge dimmer, not a variable-resistor dimmer. But it's not that simple, because recall that an LED diode itself is driven by direct current, so all "LED bulbs" are really a package of driver circuitry which does AC->DC rectification plus the bare diode. And the whole point of rectification is to turn a choppy incoming signal into a stable dc output, so the chopped up waveform from leading/trailing edge dimming is just going to be turned into a dc signal. So this means that we need another circuit before the rectifier that integrates the signal over time to find the dimming level, then uses that to PWM the driver.

So put together, in order for an LED to dim correctly we need:
* A circuit before the driver to integrate the signal and determine the intended dimming level
* A non-shitty rectifier which can rectify a noisy signal to a stable DC
* A PWM'ing circuit which PWM the bulb at high frequency based on the computed dimming level

And just to make things worse, once the rms voltage of the input waveform drops low enough, it's harder to achieve a stable output voltage (unless you throw in some large capacitors), and so most LED bulbs hooked up to a dimmer won't dim properly on the lowest end.

(Do note that most bulbs probably do have multiple independent diodes that can be turned on/off to achieve "coarse" dimming)

So to go back to your question, if you want the best experience with a dimmer, you should use an incandescent or halogen bulb. If you want to use an LED, you must also use a dimmer that it's been tested and verified to work with. The only ok-ish consumer bulb I've seen that does dimming sort-of-decently is the Philips Warm Glow bulbs, which include multiple sets diodes at different color temperatures. But they don't have good enough CRI, so they're still worse than halogen.

>>40347
High-cri LEDs are thing it seems. There's even "LED filament" models.
https://www.waveformlighting.com/high-cri-led
>A CRI score of 95 or above is considered very high, and indicates that a light source will make objects appear very similar to how they would look under natural lighting conditions.
95 out of 100 doesn't sound terrible to me.

Post edited on 27th Aug 2022, 11:32pm

>>40348
I actually have one of the waveform led bulbs. I can confirm that there's no flicker (but these bulbs are non-dimmable), and 95 CRI is indeed among the best LEDs you can purchase as a consumer (yujiled is another). [Although the heat sink on the bulbs is a bit questionable (which is another cost cutting measure that all manufacturers take), I wouldn't expect these to last more than 3 years].

But the deep-reds are still lacking. Look at R9, it's still only ~85-90. Realistically you're probably not going to notice a visual difference (unless you live in an art gallery) between r9=85 and r9=95, but the fact that no current LED replicates the deep-red spectrum (700nm+) should not be ignored. For instance, apparently this spectrum of light does have impact on retina mitochondrial functioning [1]

[1] https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-021-02311-1

Post edited on 27th Aug 2022, 11:53pm

>>40347
I really didn't anticipate such a reply, but yes, it probably is an LED bulb. I'll check tomorrow when I can do something about it.
Thanks for the post. It is surprisingly interesting.

>>40349
They have an article about R9 CRI too, so they are looking into it at least. Also, I don't personally value the ability to dim a light.
https://www.waveformlighting.com/tech/what-is-cri-r9-and-why-is-it-important
>Below is a typical LED spectrum compared to the reference source (daylight). There is a very notable lack of red light emitted by the LED at wavelengths past 600 nm.
>CRI R9 is a very important metric because many light sources will be lacking in red content, but this fact will be hidden due to the averaging out of CRI calculations which do not include R9.
>CRI utilizes the CIE 1960 uv color space, which is skewed in a way that exaggerates color differences in the red region of the chromaticity diagram. Since CRI is a calculation that quantifies color differences between a light source and a reference source, a larger calculated color difference will result in a larger decrease in the R score.

Post edited on 28th Aug 2022, 8:47am

I feel like complaining about random computer desktop stuff, so that's what I'm going to do.

There's too many ui frameworks and the "cross-platform" ones all suck. GTK is especially egregious. Every single GTK application is infected with that god awful, lobotomized file picker with no thumbnails, even on Windows. To think GTK was developed to make a photoshop clone. QT is hardly better. Dolphin has thumbnails sure, but they're blurry. It pisses me off.

Other problem with Dolphin. When you click on an image, in the bottom information bar, it'll tell you how large the file is, but it wont tell you the image's dimensions. That's so fucking stupid. They added some dumb option to get this information by displaying image dimensions underneath all images' names. Or something like that. I don't really remember except that it's not in the bottom, file information bar where it should be. And of course if you use Ubuntu or Debian you'll have to wait before getting that "feature" or go through some pain in the ass to update KDE without the package manager.

Icons are too big in KDE. Especially on a smaller screens it's a god awful waste of space. So you've got to choose if you want legible text or acceptable usage of your screen real-estate. Or you can set some lopsided bullshit that makes fonts 20px or something. If scaling wasn't so fucked up on linux and they didn't make the icons so needlessly bloated maybe this wouldn't be a problem.

Windows doesn't have any built-in command line utilities. Basic stuff like diff and time are missing. Powershell's auto-complete sucks. You can't filter past commands, an extremely basic, useful feature. You have to hit the up key like fifty times. There's some stupid convoluted work around that's not integrated with the up key at all. It should be exactly like zsh where you just type things in, press up, and past commands are filtered. I don't know how the powershell developers didn't think of this. I wonder if they've never used zsh. Maybe they were so up their own ass, they didn't think to try and see how other shells do things. You can't alt-drag windows in Windows, so dealing with a borderless application is cumbersome. You've got to press alt+space, and select the move option to move the thing.

Post edited on 29th Aug 2022, 4:30pm

>>40357
There's a linux rants thread on /navi/ that you might be interested in perusing (or have already perused) which talks about the state of the linux gui at great length. As for windows, powershell is actually neat in theory, as an exploration of how CLI can move past passing text between programs to passing formatted objects which makes it possible to build more powerful pipelines (instead of e.g. having to parse the stdout to get the first column). But powershell kind of stopped at WIP theory stage and they never bothered to add the ux polish (like zsh). And no one really bothers writing powershell modules so unlike linux where there's a rich cli ecosystem, every thing is just kind of half-baked on windows. So much so that they probably gave up themselves and now just push WSL if you want to do anything cli.

Artists who do mostly erotic, highly sexual stuff, but never actual sex. Especially when they dabble in a fetish I have, Kafun being one example. Also artists who used to draw more risque stuff, but dialed it back over the years.

I don't really get it, but I'm inclined to believe artists do this as a way of maintaining some kind of mainstream "legitimacy" and that annoys me to no end. Either that or they have some weird, personal hang ups. This is a big part of why I want artists to be replaced by machines.

>>40361
I think the most hilarious example of this is that the person who drew those browser girls used to draw guro.

>>40352
I'll take their word on the skewed cie color space making it harder to go from r9=90 to r9=95 than it is for other colors (although I don't really understand their reasoning, reasoning about color spaces always make my head hurt). Although even without invoking the notion of color space, simply by looking at the spectrum of LEDs you can see how it's very hard for them to represent the deep-red region. In principle if we had phosphors that could somehow remit light in this region it wouldn't be an issue, but I guess no one has come up with them yet. I recall the last advancements in LED lightning technology were the violet-pump LED (compared to traditional LED which emit blue light then rely on phosphors to absorb/remit into other colors) but that hasn't made it's way to general consumer LEDs yet (the only two companies that produce these are Soraa and Seoul Semiconductor [*], both of which claim to achieved R9 of 95 which is pretty impressive).

[*] And apparently a chinese company called "Smart Eco Lightning" according to the russian lamp guy on budgetlightforum who is a wealth of information. According to him there recently are full-spectrum bulbs with a significant deep-red & IR region, as in the attached picture. He calls these "StarLike" but hasn't revealed the actual company that manufactures the COBs. It might possibly be [1] although it's not really relevant unless you care about details of supply chain. Sadly I doubt we'll see this until another 5 years considering high-CRI bulbs are only just becoming mainstream.

[1] https://www.led-professional.com/products-services/eurolightings-new-led-series-with-broadband-light-spectrum-up-to-1000-nm

>>40361
I don't know about the first example but I can understand the latter. Peoples tastes and goals for their art change over time.
I don't think there's really any point to drawing the same concept years on end even if you don't actually enjoy it anymore, just because it's what you started out with.

>>40361
Maybe they find that distasteful? Or they prefer erotica to sex? Just let them draw what they want.

>>40369
>Peoples tastes and goals for their art change over time.
For the worse usually. On a time graph, it'd make a hill shape. Somehow what they enjoy becomes more pedestrian and safe.
>>40370
I can't force anyone to draw something. But I can judge them. I'd call finding it "distasteful", a weird ,personal hang-up.

Post edited on 1st Sep 2022, 8:29am

I've collected a few thousand images. Mostly from boorus, but also from an assortment of other places. I've never had an organization system except keeping them in folders with about 200 files in each, making new ones as needed.

A lot of the time, even when I know I have an image, I'll look for it on a booru just because I know it's faster, which is frustrating. So I thought I'd try to start adding tags to my image files. JPG supports this, at least on windows, PNG doesn't. Okay, well there's a program that fixes that.
https://github.com/Dijji/FileMeta

Thing is though, it's not transferable to others(unless it's a JPG which already supports tags), so the (very tedious)work I put in can't benefit others. And I can't benefit from it either if I want to transfer my files to a new os install(unless there's a way to export that information).

This whole thing is just terrible. Yeah, I've heard of Hydra, but that doesn't integrate with the rest of your system. You're putting another, separate layer on top of the system, which I find messy and unsatisfying. I like using the built-in file explorer to explore my files.

This got me thinking about desktops in a more general sense. Really, all image formats should support tag meta-data. And that's not even talking about other types of files. Ideally, the image creator would tag the file, and then nobody else would have to do that work again, unless they want even more specific tags. The assumption should be that people will download a lot of image files, and they'll want to search for them, and there should be a built-in system which enables that. Users would then form certain standards on their own.

I think most of the good things about desktop operating systems where invented in the 90s and early 2000s, when people mostly needed computers as an isolated work-station. As the internet became more important, it started to subsume functionality that used to belong to host machines. It's even begun to encroach on the concept of local storage. So most niceties that exist on desktop operating systems, are relics of a bygone era, and aren't going to be further developed. Instead of the OS changing in ways that utilize the internet so users can more efficiently communicate and share information, it only changed in ways to further connect users with companies, which are always middle-men between users.

Smart phones are the most degraded form of computer in terms of empowering the user, and that's the direction I think desktops are going. And if you think Linux is capable of innovating the desktop, something can't innovate if it hasn't figured out the most basic things, which it hasn't and never will. At best, it can create superficial ui trends and poorly integrated, half-baked, non-standardized layers to put on top of the base system.

>>40374
TC's WAF is preventing my response from posting, so I've had to attach it.

>>40375
Thanks for going through the trouble.
>I try to use the filename as a form pseudo-tagging
This would not work well as something everyone does. Something like a booru couldn't use this system without producing monstrous and or repetitive file names.
>as you mentioned exif isn't really standardized (png support is poor)
If it were standardized, it would be cross-platform though, wouldn't it?
>each file has a list of tags stored in the kMDItemUserTags xatr of the file, and there's an index built on top of it
If I add tags to a file in OSX and upload it somewhere, when another OSX user downloads it, will they have access to the same tags? Because not being able to do that is what's most bothersome to me.
>take a look at WinFS
Interesting. It seems similar to BFS.
>I believe the argument from W3C for rejecting it was that it's too tightly coupled to SQLite
W3C are corporate pawns.

Post edited on 2nd Sep 2022, 8:04pm

>>40377
>If it were standardized, it would be cross-platform though
Yes, but at this point png and jpeg are in too wide use so they can't be standardized. I don't know offhand if they included metadata as a first-class citizen in the newer formats like webp or not.

>will they have access to the same tags?
Good question, short answer is no. Longer answer is that the extended attributes are stored in the resource fork of a file inode, while most programs will only care about the data fork. So if you upload an image to a server, only the data fork gets copied. OSX does try to be a bit clever about this though: 1) if you copy a file to another drive whose file system supports extended attributes, osx will copy the resource fork along with it. So if you share files the old-school way via a physical drive, things will work. 2) If you create a zip file, or copy files to a filesystem without extended attributes, OSX simulates the resource fork by created a hidden data file [1]. So if you upload a zip file, things will transparently work.

>BFS file system?
You're referring to BeOS? Yeah it seems a bit similar to that, although I'm not too familiar with it. I get the impression WinFS focused a lot on the relational aspects, especially having a first class schema and relational support with the intention that user-applications would persist tabular data directly in this format directly to the disk (in effect, the filesystem would take the place of sqlite). BeOS's file system seems more like HFS's extended attributes on steroids, where querying and indexing is moved from the userspace layer down into the actual file system.


[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AppleSingle_and_AppleDouble_formats

>>40378
>but at this point png and jpeg are in too wide use so they can't be standardized
Why? How would adding a standard break anything?

>>40379
You're right, I was thinking adding exif to png would require changing the file format in a non-backwards compatible way, but the format already includes support arbitrary metadata chunks (just not in a standardized fashion), so it wouldn't require any file format changes.

>>40374
I have several folders for categories but I also label the images as I save them. You can create your own tag system as well, so one I have is bk for images with books in them, then I can just search in the folder search bar for x character bk if I wanted.

It's not ideal though, because I have to decide what tags I want to add and if I wanted to add them all like in a booru then I would have a huge filename and every image I saved would be a pain. But in general it works. Often I also change how I organise them by adding a new tag or changing a tag so I have to go through and change every image which is a pain and I still have not done for most images.

>>40381
These are all more problems with trying to use the filename, but the biggest to me is still that no one else can benefit from that work. You upload anything to tc for instance, and name is destroyed basically(yeah, it's next to it, but that's still a pain in the ass). And nobody knows your abbreviation system. Metadata that describes an image, should definitely be separate from the name of the image.

Another thing about hydrus, it doesn't have any folder structure. It entirely replaces folders with tags. I strongly believe they can and should co-exist.

Imagine if in boorus, when tags are edited, the image's own metadata is edited. So when you download it, the image has all those user-added tags. And also imagine, if the file picker were enhanced, so that you can edit tags while saving an image. This would be like a step forward in human evolution.

Post edited on 3rd Sep 2022, 8:25am

>>40382
>(yeah, it's next to it, but that's still a pain in the ass).
Some imageboards have the option to download as the original filename.
By the way I kinda disagree. I think looking for the picture you want in a sea of pictures you didnt remember downloading is half the fun. You always revisit images you forgot about.

I am this fucking close to snapping. Its my bitch fucking whore of an aunt again. This midwestern whore is now messaging me annoying the fuck out of me trying to get me to travel with my narcissists bastards of my parents. Not only do I have severe airlpane phobia, to the degree that I have reccurring nigtmares for days preciding an airplane travel, i fucking hate travelling with my parents. theses motherfuckers are so fucking condescending, if i were to travel with them again i would jump from the airplane midflight from the emergency door. i shoulda have moved out, but now i have no money and no job, i will move out soon, somehow, and then disappear, never contact anyone again.

I hate how fast everything breaks these days. New things end up needing replaced within a year or so, but I have a cheap mouse that I've been using for over a decade at this point that mostly functions as intended.
Now it may have to do with the fact that I generally buy cheap shit, but I'd really hate to buy something "high quality" for it to fall apart just as fast. I don't care about cool functions and customization, just something that'll last a while.
Maybe I'll just buy something before I need to so that I can do research beforehand. Seems like the smart solution.

I might have bitched about this more than once, but I really hate people that don't lurk.

I made the mistake of lending my xbox 360 to someone years ago. It didn't work when I got it back.
I'm not entirely sure what happened, but now that I cracked it open, it fucking stinks, there's mystery residue, and mold. My guess is an animal pissed on it or something.

>>40452
I never liked staying over at my aunt's house because she has a dog that would piss on -everything-. Not exaggerating, if he could piss on it he would. So I wouldn't be surprised.

My relatives are insufferable.

I wonder why most people dislike their relatives

>>40470
I believe any two people can have an amicable relationship if their interaction is sufficiently limited. How much so depends on how compatible the two people are. Relatives have no choice but to interact often.

>>40470
They're people that we might have little to nothing in common with, but are forced to interact with for a significant amount of our lives. It's not like friends we can walk away from, partners we can break up with, or coworkers we can gun down. For better or worse we're typically stuck with family.

I was talking to an old friend earlier, and got roped into communicating with other friends of theirs.
Sickening. Horrible experience. I just wanted to play a fighting game for a few rounds without too much conversation. Not that I mind conversation, but there's nothing to talk about with those people. They know nothing and they don't care to learn for themselves.
I may be a miserable loser, but at least I have more than superficial interests.

>>40474
Do you think your old friend is any different?

>>40475
He isn't, but he is more acutely aware of things to avoid.
Goes out the window in a group dynamic of course.

>>40474
If Suigintou approaches you in her trunk. Does that mean you have junk in the trunk?

>>40476
>things to avoid
Do you mean topics to avoid while talking to you?

Post edited on 19th Sep 2022, 4:10am

>>40479
More or less. Things like memes or whatever is popular at the time. Totally lost on me. Otaku topics are the worst. Especially when those people start having a dick measuring contest about how much of a "weeb" they are. I don't participate at all because I'll just come off as an insufferable faggot for no reason at all. I can only take so much talk about "anime waifus" and who watches the most hentai. What's the point?
I always find something else to do when I start losing patience. I have more fun on my own anyhow. This is why they're old friends.

People who can't understand the value of corporate backing. Pic from the comments on an article about Fuchsia.

>>40483
Are you saying that corporate value is a positive or negative benefit? Corporate backing is a negative. Google isn't an entity interested in pushing forward OS research for altruistic reasons, they're interested in making money. Fuchsia is both an engineer retention project as well as a fallback for Android that allows them to control the entire ecosystem end to end. It's dead the moment the ad empire comes crashing down and google has to cut all non-essential projects. Basically, it's one reorg away from extinction.

>>40483
He's trying to be a salesman, if nothing else.

>>40484
>Are you saying that corporate value is a positive or negative benefit?
Positive, because without corporate backing, the project is dead in the water. This applies even to Linux within its common use cases.
>Google isn't an entity interested in pushing forward OS research for altruistic reasons, they're interested in making money
The exact same could be said for AT&T. Profit tends to be a hell of a lot better of a motivator than altruism.
>it's one reorg away from extinction.
And if that doesn't happen, they'll have produced something actually good because they have the required resources. I don't use desktop Linux and I never will. What I want is something that's POSIX-compatible, has a sane gui ecosystem, is more open than MacOs, and a sizable number of developers use. Fuchsia has actual promise of meeting all of these criteria. Redox has 0 chance. Linux has 0 chance.

Post edited on 19th Sep 2022, 3:45pm

>>40486
>>40484
I mean really. I think people like you live in a communistic/anarchist fantasy that's drowning in mediocrity and duct tape. I want no part in it, it makes me sick.

>>40486
And even if Google (for example) were to dissolve, the experience and knowledge accrued by those working on the aforementioned projects will simply be leveraged by those individuals for another firm, themselves, an open source initiative, and/or something else. (Not to mention the capital and other resources will be released for other uses too.)

>>40486
I can't tell if you're naive or just haven't actually had real-world experience with the stuff Google chucks out from their walled garden (or perhaps moated castle is a better metaphor). All their open-source projects fall into 2 (non-exclusive categories): potentially cool things that they leave to bitrot because it's a gimped version of their internal software that a) often makes assumptions that won't hold up outside their edenic monorepo b) is poorly documented and c) often leaves out the actually useful parts. Bazel and grpc fall into this category. Now this shouldn't actually be taken as a huge negative point, all things considered they can be pretty useful, but you're kidding yourself if you don't believe that you're always treated a 2nd class citizen when you use these tools.

The more relevant point is that the stuff they chuck out is more "source available" rather than actually open-source in the communal contributions accepted sense, because no one outside google can meaningfully influence the direction of the project. And google's best interests are almost certainly orthogonal to yours. Do you believe that they develop Chrome out of the kindness of their hearts to push the web forward? Why do you think they're trying to ram down manifestv3 which will hinder adblockers and content scripts? If you believe otherwise you are deluding yourself - go read the chromium bug tracker and tell yourself with a straight face that chrome is a "community project".

>The exact same could be said for AT&T.
Invalid comparison. Bell labs would never occur today because it'd be run by short-sighted MBAs that don't have long-term vision. Again you're joking if you think Google is a modern equivalent. They can't even maintain enough focus to put out a single chat app without a reorg killing things in the middle. DeepMind is really the only notable example I can think of, and even then that was an acquisition. And even their recent efforts here have been slacking: they basically got beat to the punch in image gerantion by OpenAI's dalle2 (who isn't actually open), and because they never bothered to release a trained model they got beat to the punch again by Stable Diffusion, which is something you can actually make use of immediately.


>they'll have produced something actually good because they have the required resources
Sure, right after they manage to produce a functioning chat app.
> is more open than MacOs
If they ever do manage to put out something, it's going to be exactly like chrome and android. An "open core" that you can't really call your own in any meaningful way unless you want to spend your days rebasing your local patches against upstream and rebuilding (your patches will never be accepted upstream; it also normally takes a full team of engineers to maintain a non-trivial chromium fork in sync with upstream) coupled with proprietary bits that you won't have access to (GMS on android; drm libs, sync, and translate on chrome).

>>40489
>you're kidding yourself if you don't believe that you're always treated a 2nd class citizen when you use these tools
Why should I care? I use Windows on a day to day basis. Why do you think that's my top priority?
>"community project".
I do not care. Source availability is good enough for me. That is already an upgrade from windows. GTK is supposedly a "community project". Look how that turned out. Not only is it closed to outside contributors, it's also shit.
>An "open core" that you can't really call your own
I can't call Windows my own either, yet I still use it. So again, why should I care?

You're completely blind to the fact that other people may not have the same priorities that you do. Your whole argument boils down to "Google bad" and soothsaying.

Post edited on 20th Sep 2022, 7:57am

>>40474
>I may be a miserable loser, but at least I have more than superficial interests.
If you think about it, that's what makes you a loser. In their eyes, probably.

>>40492
You just might be right. I'm pretty boring, as the only things I have to talk about aren't things others want to talk about. What is interesting to the average person anyway? Their soft-core porn dramas and making money?

>>40492
Indeed. It's been a frequent thought of mine that you can go hard into your hobbies, seriously. Like, you can become the Michael Jordan of your hobby with regards to the doggedness and work ethic that you apply to it.
But not all hobbies yield accolades and prestige and respect.

So yeah, it's not merely an unwillingness to have superficial interests that marks you as a loser. It's that honest pursuit, combined with the fact that it's in a hobby that's unpopular or not respected.

It's not easy to get rich, but the guys that work hard on making money in the finance sector are absolutely not seen as losers like an e-sports competitor would be.

>>40496
E-sports competitors are supposedly pretty well regarded amongst newer generations; at least they're well known. But the guy who has obscure knowledge on plastic chairs [1]? He gets dismissed as a laughing stock.

I like your hypothesis that while one can spend time gaining expertise in any domain, respect and status is only conferred onto him by people in a certain group if that domain is aligned with the group's interest. For instance, the fact that there exist broadly popular or desirable like "money" or "sports" means that to the general population, sports players or businessmen are well-regarded. For something like e-sports which is a topic that has harsh demographic divides (well-regarded in younger generations, not so much in older ones) respect is likewise mixed. The more obscure the hobby, the smaller the group of people interested in it, and so the less likely he is to be respected.


[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOC70rEhomA

>>40491
>I do not care. Source availability is good enough for me.
But you literally said a few posts back

>is more open than MacOs
So if you're OK with having source available that you can't really take practical advantage of, why don't you use osx then? XNU is "source available" just like fuchsia. And in both cases the valuable userspace parts are either going to be closed source or like gtk aren't going to accept community contributions anyway. And given that you aren't going to upstream your changes in either case, I'd argue osx is actually better from a "less of a time sink" perspective because it's easier to monkey patch things at runtime to incorporate your personal changes (selectors are unlikely to change) compared to having to rebase your personal patch set and recompile each time. So going by your very words, you have a strictly superior option that meets all your criteria:
>something that's POSIX-compatible, has a sane gui ecosystem, and a sizable number of developers use

If your complaint is that osx lacks the necessary drivers to run on your hardware, then a) there's hackintosh and b) there's no guarantee that fuchsia will have "proper" support for those drivers either (because ultimately it's up to vendors or 3rd party hackers).

Post edited on 20th Sep 2022, 4:16pm

>>40499
>XNU is "source available"
That's just the kernel. Maybe if you took a little peek at Fuchsia' documentation, you'd realize the amount available is much higher.
https://fuchsia.dev/fuchsia-src/concepts/ui/scenic
https://fuchsia.googlesource.com/fuchsia/+/refs/heads/main/src/ui/scenic/
Literally all of it is open source thus far. To use it, you literally have to build it from source. Considering how the gui part is my biggest issue with Linux, this is a major difference to me.
>you have a strictly superior option
According to your soothsaying.
>there's no guarantee that fuchsia will have "proper" support for those drivers either
I can buy new hardware. Considering Fuchsia's design, and the Chromebook model, it's much more likely that I'll have more options in hardware than Apple provides.

Post edited on 20th Sep 2022, 5:46pm

>>40493
>What is interesting to the average person anyway?
In my experience, what's interesting to them is other persons. It's all social, the rest are just pretexts to engage in social activities.

>>40504
The average person might argue they are interested in both the subject matter and the social aspect, and also say they wouldn't engage in the most popular of "pretenses" for a reason.

I wouldn't say I hate people, but god I hate interacting with them.
They're all so needy, demanding, emotional, lying, manipulative...

People who don't understand the importance of typography and efficient use of space.
https://www.imabi.net/intro-to-japanese

I got this email from the Imabi guy after telling him why his website's formatting sucks. I'm not on a smart device, I'm on a laptop with a 14 inch screen. And I don't care if the problem with the massive left margin is caused by the template; the template fucking sucks. Use a different template. Or don't use a template, and spend a bit of time figuring out the the html and css needed to make a non-stupid format.

On top of that, he uses the formatting as his way of keeping track of updates. I've never heard of such an incompetent and backwards way of doing that.

These response emails, or as I call them, excuse-mails, drive me fucking nuts. It's never their fault. They never actually change things to not be stupid after you go through the trouble of telling them why the way they do things is stupid. Every time.

Post edited on 25th Sep 2022, 6:44am

>>40536
I feel calmer now.

>>40536
I took a look at the site, and That huge space on the left really sticks out. I think it wouldn't be so bad if the page at least looked centered with even gaps on both sides.

>>40536
You didn't attach the email you originally sent, but from the way you're responding you seem like an utter prick. If you're so annoyed by content that someone has typed up and is providing for free, why not create your own userstyle and apply it locally. Since you're a CSS wizard, it should take you only 10 seconds to do and you never have to worry about it again. People like you are the reason why some people dread open sourcing things, because people will believe they're entitled to support and bugfixes and start complaining if you don't drop everything you're doing and address their use-case. If you hate his website so much, why do you keep using it? Surely there are other japanese guides you could use.

And let me prempt a comparison with the linux community. What you did is just complain, and he has every right to brush you off. Even if you had sent him applicable CSS, he still has every right to reject it because you have no way of knowing how his backend is even configured. I.e. he may be using one of those website builders that may not even allow you to deviate from a custom template. If you've read through the linux kernel mailing list, you would know that patches are welcomed (although at times it can be a bit hard getting to the right person) even for obscure architectures. On the other hand, the most infamous case is the gtk community and the filepicker, and there despite people providing patches the maintainers refuse to even do code review. (Note that it would be quite a different matter if they performed a code review and stated that it couldn't be used in current form due to X reasons, e.g. interacting poorly with Y or causing regression on Z).

>>40544
I'm honestly just happy if a website provides links and minor function to all the content it intends to provide. It does look like shit, but if it works, who cares?

>>40544
>you seem like an utter prick
I don't care how I seem, dumbass. This is the venting thread.
>Since you're a CSS wizard
I'm not. I've used CSS, but that doesn't make a "wizard". I also think making local styles is a waste of time.
>start complaining
I'm complaining here, not to him. Because that's what this thread is for.
>why do you keep using it?
I don't.
>he has every right to brush you off
And I have the right to call him an incompetent in this thread. How hard is to understand that?

Why are you provoking me for venting in the venting thread? Fuck off.

Tablets being used in professional settings.
I went to get my eyes checked yesterday, and I found it jarring that tablets were used for so much. I really couldn't imagine having to use one for work. It just seems frustrating and inconvenient compared to a desktop computer set up specifically for work. Really, I can't understand how someone could tolerate having to use a touchscreen on some retard proof device that even a toddler could operate. Then again, I guess that's a point in favor of tablets. Better for those simple jobs even the dumbest person can handle.
That just makes me wonder... Why are desktop computers seen as too complicated for a lot of people? They're pretty simple, and with a bit of guidance or research you can do just about anything on them. Some of the language might be new, but again, it isn't hard to figure out when everything is labeled.

>>40550
>Why are desktop computers seen as too complicated for a lot of people
They offer too much freedom for most people, in the sense that the set of all possible actions that can be taken at a given time is not constrained or clearly indicated upfront. Compare this to a smartphone where at any time the list of things you can do is very clearly limited.

Or more concretely, on a smartphone the number of abstractions you need to understand in order to use it is limited. There's no concept of a window, no concept of a file, what a user needs to understand about an application is limited (click the square to go into the captive world), and once in the application the only inputs possible are limited to clicks and swipes, and almost all actions are non-destructive so even a monkey can manage to find his way around.

That said I think a tablet is OK and perhaps even well-suited for field use in medical professions since most of it is just recording things down, or looking up patient info, which is the kind of repetitive simple task that smartphones excel at.

>>40551
>That said I think a tablet is OK and perhaps even well-suited for field use in medical professions since most of it is just recording things down, or looking up patient info, which is the kind of repetitive simple task that smartphones excel at.
I suppose that's true. Really any job where a lot of data needs to be gathered and recorded without a dedicated work space. Personally I'd prefer to use pen and paper, but a device would be cheaper and faster in the long run.

As for the rest of your post, you're right. I was going to write a response to the rest, but it boils down to hating smart devices and how annoying those limitations are for me, someone outside their targeted market.

>>40552
Do you think the limitation is inherent with the form factor, or merely a product of current mobile operating systems? At least with a rooted android phone you used to be able to run linux in a chroot (termux) and have unrestricted access to the underlying filesystem and hardware. At most I ended up using this for some basic automation (e.g. turn on airplane mode at night) though, trying to do anything more involved was bottlenecked by the soft-keyboard.

>>40553
For me, personally, it was always the OS. My main issue was always an inability to access the file system. As a teen, I used to be heavily limited in what I could do at home on my computer, due to a complete lack of internet access. And so I had to rely on an iPhone to download anything. I found a decent method to do so, as iPhone apps don't necessarily follow the same philosophy as their OS. I think it was VLC that lets you download and whatever file and afterward you can access it from your computer. I don't really recall the specifics.
Eventually I got an android, after convincing my mother that iPhones suck and aren't very good for my needs. It was way better and didn't need a bunch of tricks and work arounds to use how I wanted. Even then, I found that it lacked settings that would help me get around some issues that came up, but not long after I got internet and mostly stopped using my mobile device outside of family phone calls, and when I can't be at my computer, checking websites and music.
My needs were pretty simple all in all, so I can't speak on doing any actual modifications.

Of course, the soft-keyboard is an issue, but if I'm not mistaken, you can connect an actual keyboard to android devices. You're probably out of luck on iOS, but that shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. I think a solution could be to provide another key, similar to how the shift key works, except it memorizes a set number of inputs to use simultaneously. An optional additional page to the keyboard for keys you can't find otherwise would be able to provide more functionality if needed. Additionally, a sort of extension repository could help provide more advanced users a way to get more use out of their mobile device without "compromising" any part of the device. Obviously, such a thing would never be provided in any meaningful capacity, but it would make for an okay middle-ground for those that want to do more, but don't want to make significant modifications. It could also prevent curious retards and children from permanently damaging their device by making a back-up before enabling those extensions and having a way to restore that back-up on starting it up.

Post edited on 26th Sep 2022, 5:32pm

So I stumbled upon the fact that Mac's file explorer, finder, really sucks. There's no address bar, no button to go up a directory, no option to make new files, or open folders in a new window. Basically it's gimped garbage.

The alternative people usually point to is called Pathfinder, which is not free and has a subscription model, which is as absurd as it sounds. It's been around for a really long time too.

My conspiracy theory is that Apple takes a cut in exchange for not breaking their shit. Apple knows it can't just not include a file explorer, or make it a paid feature. That would be too egregious. So instead they have one that's really garbage, but most mac users will still tolerate. The ones who wont, will be willing to pay for a solution. So Apple can make money on the side by creating a market for alternatives and exercising their power over said alternatives.

Post edited on 28th Sep 2022, 8:25am

>>40571
A demonstration of the address bar's flexibility.

>>40571
> There's no address bar
Hit cmd-shift-g (Go > Go to Folder) and you can type in a unix path in there. You can even rebind it to cmd-L if you prefer to match the browser. If it's not already enabled "View > View Path Bar" is also useful since it gives you breadcrumbs at the bottom. Put together, this effectively gives you the functionality of an address bar. I don't recall if go-to-folder is prepopulated with the current path or not. If it's not, then I guess to copy current path you'd have to use one of the workarounds described below. For drop-down menu of path there is also a separate path toolbar button you can add. But yeah this isn't ideal, having the functionality spread between different components.

The rest of the points are valid and I personally really miss the ability to right click and create new files on stock osx. You are probably already aware of these, but there are workarounds to accomplish the things you mentioned:

>no button to go up a directory,
You can hit cmd-up to do this. If you want a button though, you used to be able to drag applications to the title bar so there's probably a really kludgy workaround where you create an application that either sends cmd-up keypress or uses scripting bridge to send the relevant event to Finder, then just drag that application to the menubar. I believe newer osx also has support for "finder extensions" which can also add toolbar icons, which would be another way of achieving the same thing (compared to dragging an app to the toolbar).

> no option to make new files
I can see several options here. One is the toolbar button approach [1]. If you want it in the right-click context menu, tHe less elegant option is to create a service (e.g. in Automator) and enable it as a folder action. Then you will be able to right click (note this only works when right clicking on a folder itself) and have an option to run the script. The more elegant option, which only works on more recent osx versions, is to use a finder extension, maybe something like [2].

>or open folders in a new window
In Finder > Preferences there is an option to open folders in tabs or windows. Set it to open in window, then right clicking a folder will give you an option to open in new window. You can also do this via cmd+double click. If you want to switch temporarily between them, holding option when right clicking will allow you to switch between the two. Similarly you can option+cmd+double click.

And of course the nuclear option if you are willing to disable SIP on more recent os versions is to use something like TotalFinder or Xtrafinder which directly code-injects into the finder process and can do everything you requested.


>It's been around for a really long time too
On OS9 the finder used to be even worse. This is a hill that some (e.g. Siracusa) will die on, but to me what used to be the spatial finder [3] is atrocious. It maybe makes sense for someone who's not comfortable with the abstraction of files, but I don't need that. Getting rid of the spatial finder in favor of a regular file explorer is in my opinion the only good thing they've done with the finder since OS9. Unfortunately even though they didn't go far enough, and the fact that the finder remembers view preferences per-folder is I think a legacy of the spatial finder. Nothing annoys me more when things suddenly jump from list view to icon view because I happened to switch to icon view one year back in a specific subfolder. And the discoverability of the way to override this behavior is atrocious. Buring this in "View > View Options" is a diagrace. And if you want to set a default column width to use everywhere? Apparently you hold option while dragging the column, which has got to be the most obscure behaviors I've ever seen. (Finder has a ton of obscure shortcuts. Did you know cmd+shift+period allows you to toggle hidden files? Cute, but this appears no where in the menubar which defeats the whole purpose of having a menubar.)

>Pathfinder
Ah yeah I've heard of pathfinder, they've been around for a relatively long time too. I didn't know they switched to a subscription model though, that's really scummy. The issue is you can't really get rid of the finder on osx because it's so deeply integrated into everything. For instance its code is invoked as part of the save panel xpc.

>My conspiracy theory is that Apple takes a cut in exchange for not breaking their shit
It's simpler than that: finder is a huge sprawling legacy codebase full of tech debt. Have you ever disassembled finder binaries? It's a complete mess, and the finder binary isn't even where the bulk of the logic is, it's spread across DesktopServices as well. It was one of the last apps to make the carbon -> cocoa transition (I think maybe even some parts still link against carbon). I don't know why a file browser requires so much complexity, but this gives me the impression it's just a giant toxic pit no one wants to touch, and they're not going to spend the manhours on a greenfeld rewrite because what they have now is "good" enough". Certainly not given that the software division at apple is currently dominated by the ios team and osx is in perpetual maintenance mode.

> for not breaking their shit
There's nothing to break really, they're not using any reverse engineered apis here.


[1] https://github.com/RomanSmolka/finder-new-file
[2] https://github.com/suolapeikko/FinderUtilities
[3] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2003/04/finder/3/

Post edited on 28th Sep 2022, 11:11am

>>40573
>Hit cmd-shift-g
I know you can do this. It's stupid, and worse. And it doesn't provide the features I listed here >>40572
The file explorer is a mouse oriented application. Some shortcuts are nice, but not for this.
>"View > View Path Bar"
This doesn't let you edit the current path, it only shows you the current path. It takes up the same amount of space, but has less than half the functionality.
>Put together
One ui element is better than two. One ui element that does both things is more efficient. The Window's address bar is the correct way, not multiple, hidden elements.

>You are probably already aware of these
I am. Third party ones are liable to break over time.

>You can hit cmd-up to do this.
In windows, you can do this with alt-up. Having options is nice.

>Nothing annoys me more when things suddenly jump from list view to icon view
I like this feature. In my picture folders, I want thumbnails. In my document folders, I want details. You're right though that turning this off should be easy.

edit:
>But yeah this isn't ideal
Wrote my post before I saw you added this.

Post edited on 28th Sep 2022, 11:42am

>>40574
>Third party ones are liable to break over time.
The finder extension api has been stable since its launch, so at least the ones using those should not break in the near future (amusingly I recall this api was added solely because apple was fed up with dropbox reverse engineering the Finder, and they couldn't introduce SIP otherwise. Probably one of the rare cases when a company had a large enough userbase to force Apple to adapt rather than the other way around.)

>>40573
Actually come to think of it, I think the notion of the "spatial finder" is indeed where the fundamental split comes from.

The windows approach to the file explorer is a path-centric one (there's an obvious parallel to internet explorer here, and I recall some early windows version even tried to unify the two). This may have grown as a natural evolution of DOS.

On the other hand the OS9 spatial approach is some sort of workspace centric one, where the path is not explicit but implicit in the stack of windows you have open. In the transition from OS9 to osx they moved away from the spatial aspects, and bolted on some features to at least give you a sense of the explicit path (breadcrumbs at the bottom), and forward/back navigation. But the thing is they never really fully embraced path-centered navigation because you never have direct ability to manipulate the path (except via cmd+shift+g), so Finder is stuck in some sort of weird hybrid world.

Even today you can actually sort of simulate spatial finder by going to (View > Hide Toolbar) [which often randomly triggers when mounting disk images for reasons I still can't understand] which shows how they effectively just bolted on a forward/back button to the OS9 file manager, made things open in the same window, and shipped it. I believe this is also why Finder is unique in that it's the only application that can't be quit directly from the dock. It inherits the spatial metaphor legacy that the finder isn't merely a way of browsing the filesytem:

>In the days of classic Mac OS, the Finder was the interface--and, by extension, was the computer. When people raved about the Mac's "ease of use" (especially back in the days when the Mac was home to the only mass-market personal computer GUI) what they were really raving about was the Finder. Applications may or may not have had pleasing, usable interfaces, but they were clearly "not the computer." Applications ran on the computer. You launched applications, and then quit them. The Finder was what you saw when all the applications were closed. There was no closing the Finder. To close the Finder meant to turn off the computer. The Finder was the computer.

I can understand why it was appealing, but to a power-user this just seems like an attempt to hide an abstraction.

Another good link on spatial vs non-spatial:

https://medium.com/@dfeldman/about-the-spatial-debate-4ccb8064f1df

Post edited on 28th Sep 2022, 12:53pm

>>40575
>The finder extension api has been stable since its launch
So something like https://bahoom.com/finderpath/ will still work even though it hasn't been updated in years? If that's the case, they did something right.

>>40576
I find it ironic that the OS which stuck with POSIX felt the need to obfuscate things from the user more. And to add insult to injury, they backpedaled in a half-assed way. So much for being artful and "cultured".

>to a power-user this just seems like an attempt to hide an abstraction
The normal-user, "power-user" dichotomy annoys me when it goes this far. What a file and directory is should be taught in elementary school. It's like calling people who can read "book power-users", because they read more than picture books.

>>40577
>FinderPath
Neat app, I didn't even realize that existed.

>will still work even though it hasn't been updated in years
That was created before the finder extension api was introduced in 10.10. Moreover the finder extension api is limited in what it exposes, which is only the ability to add badges on folders, toolbar buttons, and context menu items (basically what dropbox would make use of).

So the app you mentioned cannot be implemented on top of the finder extension api. But that leaves the question of how they actually did it. At first I thought this was via process injection, but it actually seems to use the accessibility apis (which are very rich on osx) to detect when you click on the titlebar of Finder (which already displays the current directory) and uses that to activate a path bar overlay. Very very clever, and this method is robust enough to still work on modern versions, although because the height of the titlebar changed in 10.14 or something it no longer aligns exactly.

>I find it ironic that the OS which stuck with POSIX felt the need to obfuscate things from the user more
OS9 didn't support posix though? For OSX they did move more in the direction of path-centric as I mentioned, they just didn't expose the path as a central UI element.

> What a file and directory is should be taught in elementary school
I think spatial finder made sense when most people had not been exposed to computers yet, so this abstraction helped "common people" understand. But today it's not needed and can even serve as an impediment as it is a leaky abstraction.

>>40578
>OS9 didn't support posix though?
Really? I assumed having BSD roots would make it so.

>>40579
Mac OS before X was a totally different thing. The UNIXy bits came from NeXTSTEP (along with Mach and to-be-Cocoa and so on, though much was replaced or modified before ending up on what became OS X), which Apple bought to serve as a much-needed better foundation for their operating system after their previous in-house attempts (pink, copland) getting caught in development hell and going nowhere.

Smart TVs.
I have a Samsung smart tv and it is awful.
The software is horribly slow to the point it is difficult to use, not that I ever want to do more than switching inputs.
The display itself is questionable, the refresh rate seems to be unsteady sometimes. Depending on what I'm doing with the TV, the display will briefly freeze every few seconds. This might be a software issue.
I can't seem to configure most of the settings. I wanted to see if I could disable some features in hopes it improve performance, but it doesn't seem possible.
The TV sucks. I rarely bother trying to use it since I'm usually at my desk, but I'd much rather have a more practical TV rather than a giant turd sitting around.
I really just don't see any purpose to it. Yes, you can stream stuff without anything more than the TV, but today's Blu-Ray/DVD players can do the same while probably letting you save enough on the TV to make up for it's price.

>>40589
Did you know that if you ever connect a smart tv to the network, it will send metadata on what you are watching so you can be targeted with ads? Even if you're not using one of the smart apps, it will use ACR to identify the content being played.

>>40589
yeah I'm not a fan at all either. I don't use any streaming services so all that clutter is pointless to me. They have this annoying tenancy to have as few buttons as possible on the tv itself, so you can't adjust things worth a darn without the remote and have to use really obnoxious combos with the 1-2 buttons they give you. If it's connected to the net, you might get ads via the tv itself. For some reason they don't like switching to new signals the way non-smart tvs do.
I don't know but it's possible you might have just gotten a cheapo crap smart tv though. The thing with cheap crappy tvs is they're always crappy regardless of the era they come from, while at the same time high quality TVs from ages past will still be noticeably high quality.
Even if you put the smart garbage aside, I think it's safe to say an average $1500 TV from ten years ago will still be better in quality than a $300-400 TV from today.

>>40589
I don't have any issue with mine. But then I don't use any of the smart TV functions, I use my PC and PlayStation on it.

>>40593
Same, except I only use the usb port to watch stuff I torrented. I have an LG one.

Post edited on 30th Sep 2022, 5:54am

>>40591
What's one more thing spying on you? I don't bother connecting it to the internet. If I use the TV for some reason, it's usually to play on a console or some other device that can do everything the TV does, and far better.
>>40592
>They have this annoying tenancy to have as few buttons as possible on the tv itself
I'm pretty sure my TV has no buttons at all.
>it's possible you might have just gotten a cheapo crap smart tv though.
Yeah, mine probably is pretty cheap. It was a random gift from my mom, probably intended as a sort of bribe. For most purchases, quality isn't really considered by my parents. It has caused a lot of headaches through the years.

It makes me miss my old TV that I had for 10 years or so. It wasn't anything special, but it was perfect for my needs. Unfortunately it stopped working some months ago, probably from rough treatment over the years. I wonder if you can even find new non-smart TVs now. I'd imagine you can with a bit of extra effort, but with a quick glance, it all seems smart. I wish there was more of a market for things without tons of useless features.

G-g-guys, I think anhedonia is starting to set in. I get bored as fucked with everything really easy. What to do?

>>40650
Can you give concrete examples? I can try to say what worked for me, but it depends very much on your particular circumstance. Do you feel there are things you still want to like and just can't enjoy anymore?

>>40653
Yes, I feel like i am starting to lose it. There are anime and manga and books and music I want to experience but everyday i become less capable of enjoying things. I lose track of time in a mental daze. Everything ruins my day. It feels like i have to wait for the 1 in a 1000 chance of having a day my mind works normally.

"Lazy"
I hate how people treat this word like it's an excuse for itself, like it's not a bad thing to be lazy but instead it's normal and cool and perfectly alright (It's not).
You see this shit all the time. "haha I would have done it but I'm lazy lol"
That's not an excuse, and not something to be proud of. being lazy is not a good thing. You wouldn't say something like "I would have done it but I'm a a worthless piece of human garbage." That's all I'm hearing when people call themselves lazy.

I've been seeing something similar lately with the word "bitch". Where women call themselves a bitch like it's it's cool. "Yeah I'm a bitch, deal with it or fuck off." I'd ask if they know how disgusting this makes them look, but I think they don't care.

Neither of these are good traits, and people should stop acting like they are. That's not going to happen of course because these people will just surround themselves with similar minded people.

I don't get why normal phone stands are all so poorly designed. The most common design uses a U shape on the front to rest your phone in, but if you use a shell on it or just have a thicker than usual device, it's not going to sit in that slot. The weird thing is, Acrylic phone stands (the ones that often come with anime characters on them), they don't have this issue. They're a much more basic design with a flat surface for the device to rest on, making them compatible with pretty much everything.

>>40667
I had one that was a literal chair. It was a beach chair with the "movie director chair" style. It was made a long time ago when cellphones were smaller, so it doesn't work for the new generation of cellphones.
It was also regulatable. You could leave it at a near 90 degrees angle, or recline it to a near 45 degrees angle.

Post edited on 9th Oct 2022, 11:57am

>>40667
I must be missing something, what's wrong with just laying the phone on a table? Also less chance of it being knocked off that way

I got new glasses today. I fucking hate them. I let my mother pick them out because I don't care how I look, but they are uncomfortable.
I've chosen to wear my more standard safety glasses as they are much more comfortable.

I really hate glasses as a fashion item. I don't care about fashion, I just want to see decently. I should be able to get free glasses if I get some ugly state approved frames.

>>40686
I'm assuming you are myopic/nearsighted? If so you should not wear your glasses for close-work, only wear them when necessary (e.g. driving).

Also letting someone else pick the frames is a mistake, putting aside the style there are certain measurements such as temple width that need to be chosen to fit a certain individual. I.e. not all frames will fit well on all people.

Post edited on 11th Oct 2022, 8:50pm

>>40687
>If so you should not wear your glasses for close-work
I can't do much without my glasses as my eyes are especially bad. I don't wear them when I don't need them, but I need them for most things. My eyesight is really bad beyond about a foot from my face.
>letting someone else pick the frames is a mistake
Yeah, I just wanted to get things over with. Fortunately, my eyesight didn't change much in the past two years, so my old glasses are good enough. I'll try to get used to my new glasses, but I'll stick with my old ones if I can't.

>>40688
> My eyesight is really bad beyond about a foot from my face
I'm guessing your prescription is around -3 then (inverse corrective diopter is focal length in meters). Assuming you spend most of your time at the computer, in order to prevent myopia from worsening you should NOT be wearing -3 diopter lenses when at the computer because then you're essentially overcorrected for the screen distance. The reason why this is bad is because several causative animal studies and population-wide correllative studies in humans have shown that the eye responds to long-term accommodative stress via axial elongation.

Assuming a screen distance of 2feet = 60cm, you should actually be wearing -3 + 1/(0.6) = -1.3 ~= -1.25 lenses when working at the computer.

Use this information however you wish (myopia worse than -2 means that it's not as simple as ditching glasses at the computer and you instead need to order reduced powers, which means you'd either have to convince your optometrist or order it online).

(Note that you'll also see online some people claim to have reversed myopia. While I believe it's in principle possible, it's likely very hard to do so unless you are both young and spend significant time outdoors. Much easier to prevent myopia from getting worse than it is to reverse it. Some combination of the above as well as the brain "learning to deconvolve" [often denigrated as "blur adaptation"] is likely responsible for the improvements people self-report).

Apparently google doesn't even show you results if they're deemed to be non-fresh (i.e. wasn't crawled during their last crawl) even though the site itself may still be alive and valid. I knew google's ranking had gone to shit, but this is the first time I'm seeing them actively hide a result that they know exists. Bing (and DDG) don't seem to purge their index as actively so I'll make it a point to use them as well from now on. I feel like a large part of the long-tail internet is now completely unsearchable just because google deems it "out of date."

>>40692
Interesting. I recently learned the amount of results it displays when you search for something means nothing. you can only go back like 30 something pages before that number of results changes and it won't let you go back any further, and this is for any search.

>>40692
For searching the long-tail internet, you might want to try
https://search.marginalia.nu/
https://wiby.me/
Some downsides are that Marginalia doesn't support non-ASCII queries and that both tend to give irrelevant results for more specific or obscure queries, I think Wiby moreso.
If you want a metasearch engine, you can try using a public Searx instance or setting up your own private one.

>>40693
> results it displays when you search for something means nothing.
This at least makes sense, since it's far easier to propagate up the number of matching documents than it is to retrieve a specific range. I suspect that number is indeed accurate in terms of the raw number of documents in their index that match the query, but as you noted they won't serve anything beyond page X (~page 40) because it is computationally prohibitive to iterate over long posting lists. This doesn't mean that they don't exist in their index, if you use a more specific search query you'll be able to find it, so the number is still useful. As far as I'm aware this limitation has always existed, it's just that maybe they recently lowered the threshold.

>>40694
Yup I'm aware of those two (thanks for sharing though), but I'm using long-tail in the sense of few inlinks and matches very specific keywords, and so is therefore unlikely to be included an any index that's not as comprehensive as Google's. So while marginalia is great for exploring, it's not necessarily great when you want to find specific information.

Or to put it concretely, Marginalia is great when you have a search term X that is "general enough" (e.g. "anime X review") and you want to filter out the corporate-blogspam laden noise you'd see on mainstream search engines. On the other hand, if you have a search term "X" which you know matches only 2-3 documents on the entire Internet, Marginalia's crawls are unlikely have to reached those specific websites. On the other hand, Google's index almost certainly does contain this website if it was ever publicly discoverable (inlinks may no longer exist, but the website itself may still be alive). It used to be the case that Google would actually return these documents, now they just seemingly filter out anything that wasn't crawled within the last year.

>>40589
What happened to a screen and an antenna set? Jesus.

>>40361
I personally only jack it to single or set images of girls, either wearing arousing/erotic clothing and/or nude, usually and preferably in the process of undress. I almost never watch actual porn or read actual hardcore hentai, it's visually unappealing and is usually ugly to look at. There's something about just appreciating the female body as a visually aesthetic set of shapes that's way more erotic to me than sloppy, messy sex scenes. Dunno why, but it probably has something to do with why I'm a volcel.

>>40700
>either wearing arousing/erotic clothing and/or nude
I see this as like only eating appetizers.

>it's visually unappealing and is usually ugly to look at
To you, I find it arousing.

So, to each their own.

>>40700
Ecchi is the best.

>>40701
>>either wearing arousing/erotic clothing and/or nude
>I see this as like only eating appetizers.
I think what you're not getting is that the majority of it is fueled by my imagination and the picture is just the subject that my imaginations are based on, so any gratuitous hentai or porn could never surpass what I can imagine in my head, and what visually looks much more aesthetic. I could never just observe someone else having sex in such a visually grotesque way.

>>40703
If I wanted to rely on my imagination, I wouldn't need any more inspiration than I already have, and it would basically be the same as hentai, except fuzzier and less defined since it's only in my head.

I suspect you're more devoid of empathy than I am if you need to imagine yourself to be aroused. That seems abnormal to me to be honest.

Post edited on 13th Oct 2022, 10:03pm

>>40703
>any gratuitous hentai or porn could never surpass what I can imagine in my head
i agree, the best masturbation material for me is what i can recall from sexual dreams immediately after waking up. even if i can barely remember what it was that had me so aroused, or if what im picturing is paradoxical, its still 100x better than porn. i find that everything i imagine in general is better than the "real thing". neither smoking nor drinking lived up to what i had imagined it was, hell even emotions are better in a way when i imagine them. i could feel a profound sadness when contemplating a situation in my head but when it actually comes to pass i feel nothing. maybe hard drugs or psychedelics will break this pattern of my imagination being better than reality, but i dont plan on trying those any time soon.

>>40705
So do you still watch anime or play games? If so, just imagine something better.

I was re-watching the "cool girl" speech from Gone Girl. The gist being that women pretend to be someone they're not, and pretend to like things they don't actually like, to appeal to men's "unrealistic expectations". This was spoken by the movie's psychopathic, murderess villain. In the comment section, it was mostly woman after woman saying how accurate it is and how much they agree with being angry at this dynamic.

First of all, the idea of somebody pretending to like things I like, angers me. My interests are part of my identity, so somebody pretending to share them is a violation of my identity. Second of all, NOBODY forces them to put on an act like that. This made me see 2 double standards.

1. It's always said that women are "allowed to have preferences". But men aren't apparently. Their preferences are instead called "unreasonable expectations". Who gets to draw the line between a preference, and an "unreasonable expectation"? I think it's completely arbitrary, and you could easily say women have "unreasonable expectations" of men.

2. It's always said that men aren't "entitled to anything". But apparently women are entitled to men's attention and acceptance and relationships with them. When women manipulate men into liking them, that's a sign that society has a problem. When men do the same, that's a problem with men and they did wrong. Men are supposed to accept women for who they really are, but men should "work on themselves" to appeal to women.

It's bullshit. Most people are too stupid and hypocritical to connect these dots, especially women. And that's infuriating. I don't think it's a matter of moral right and wrong. I believe there is a fundamental conflict between men and women because they are different. The want different things, and they like different things. Anyone who says they're the same is a deluded liar. There is no reconciliation. People just pretend there is because they have no other choice.

Post edited on 14th Oct 2022, 11:34am

>>40707
>First of all, the idea of somebody pretending to like things I like, angers me. My interests are part of my identity, so somebody pretending to share them is a violation of my identity.
Yeah, I hate this. It's part of why I don't bother with people anymore. It isn't just a woman thing. It's one thing to try and get along with others, it's another to fake enjoying something to get closer to someone. Such people are too heavily focused on social environments that they never stopped to think or experience anything for themselves, they only do things for the social aspect. Either way, people like that make me uncomfortable.

>Who gets to draw the line between a preference, and an "unreasonable expectation"?
It's subjective, but I can't help but think the idea of an "unreasonable expectation" is the result of someone getting upset that they feel you look down on them despite them seeing you as an equal or lower. Alternatively, it could be used by a guy to justify their own low standards. Basically, it's just idiots getting upset over something that doesn't impact them in any way. They take it personally and need to shift that blame onto the other person.
I think it's fine to have really high standards if you accept it probably won't happen.

>When women manipulate men into liking them, that's a sign that society has a problem. When men do the same, that's a problem with men and they did wrong.
Yeah, it's stupid. It's the same deal as the last double standard. Nobody wants to accept that they're unappealing. Nobody wants to be responsible for themselves being alone.

>Anyone who says they're the same is a deluded liar. There is no reconciliation. People just pretend there is because they have no other choice.
Unfortunately, there are more than enough men willing to enable this, even if it isn't really good for anyone. For me, it doesn't matter much.

>>40704
>except fuzzier and less defined since it's only in my head.
You're fucking with me right? How shit is your memory cortex?

>>40709
Not the anon you're responding to, but aphantasia might explain the differences here.

>>40709
Do you think what's in your head is exact? Try tracing a picture you have in your mind then. Seeing something in front of you, is different from imagining it. And this hostile reaction is confirming what I thought about your empathy.

>>40710
I don't have aphantasia. I just understand that memory and imagination are imprecise compared to actually seeing things.

Post edited on 14th Oct 2022, 5:23pm

>>40711
> memory and imagination are imprecise compared to actually seeing things.
It's not binary, some people supposedly do have very vivid "mind's eye" such that they can even superimpose imaginary objects on top of real ones almost like a floating hologram or something. Or so they claim...

>>40711
>Try tracing a picture you have in your mind then.
I do it all the time when drawing. How would you be able to draw if you couldn't replicate an imagine from your mind? Does your brain just not retain information?
>Seeing something in front of you, is different from imagining it.
Sure, but it's not like you can't visualize the details. Did you never jack off to the memory of a classmate? Or walk around in your backyard as a bored kid imagining stories and scenes in your head?
>And this hostile reaction is confirming what I thought about your empathy.
You've been weird about it from the start, and I personally start feeling massive amounts of anxiety when talking to someone that seems incapable of comprehending the things I'm saying, or whose experience is so strikingly different from mind.


>>40712
I don't think I have an unusually vivid imagination, I don't think anyone could ever visualize literal hologram floating images, but if you mean looking at an object and comparing it in your head to something else you've seen from a visual standpoint, I would assume that's pretty standard memory. How else would you even handle situations that require reflection on previous events or things that you've seen?

>>40705
I've been struggling with this for a while now, it's caused me a lot of depression. I almost killed myself when I first realized I would never get that "real" feeling of experiences back.

>>40707
That applies to both genders, people fake interests to fit in all the time, men pretend to like what women like all the time as well. Though not all do on both sides.

I don't know about women being allowed to have preferences while men are not. This sounds like bitter 4chan speak. Same with the idea that women are allowed to be entitled but men are not.

>>40713
>How would you be able to draw if you couldn't replicate an imagine from your mind?
Craftmanship. What's in your mind, is a loose guide. Making it appear on the canvas is a process that requires knowledge, practice and often references.
>Does your brain just not retain information?
Fuck you.
>Did you never jack off to the memory of a classmate?
No. That's beneath me.

The only times I've jacked off with my imagination is when I remembered "hardcore" hentai, and I only did that because I didn't have access to the actual images.

>Or walk around in your backyard as a bored kid imagining stories and scenes in your head?
I did, but I would never consider that better than an anime.
>You've been weird about it from the start
Because you insulted something I like, and that pisses me off. You did it twice, even after I was polite and said "to each their own". Your imagination is NOT better than the pornography I enjoy, in any way what so ever.

Post edited on 14th Oct 2022, 9:13pm

>>40715
Stop this, "there are no double standards" bullshit. Yes there are. I don't care how it sounds. I refuse to police what I say online based on how it "sounds". Fuck off with that.

>>40700
I don't even masturbate to images. Anime art is just that to me, art. I like to look at it and can appreciate nude, clothed and even images with sex in them if they are done tastefully.

I pretty much always do it mentally or maybe sometimes reading a doujin. But I think that these thinks might be dependent on how often somebody does it.

>>40717
You are letting what the internet rants about dictate how you see the world. This is an issue with many things these days, sure there are some women on the internet who probably do rant about that so then some men pick that up and rant about the rant that these women were ranting about and then you end up with these ranting echo chambers detached from reality.

>>40719
And what "should" a person base their views on society on if not the most widespread and active place for public discourse? This "nothing is real, everything is subjective, everybody is an individual who can't be categorized in any way" shit is post-modern nonsense.

>>40720
Reality probably, not the rantings of biter, desperate and lonely men or bitter, desperate and lonely women.
I never said people can not be categorised, they can. Just as the people with the views that we speak about can be categorised.

>>40721
In reality, you're limited by your location, the tiny pool of people you interact with, and social norms directing people to be less honest than they are on the internet. How is that more reliable at giving you a "big picture"?

Join us next week on TC as we discuss other facets of human qualia such as the "inner voice", face blindness, and spatial memory.

>>40716
>Craftmanship. What's in your mind, is a loose guide. Making it appear on the canvas is a process that requires knowledge, practice and often references.
Sure, but that's more about skill and transferring knowledge than it is about the ability to understand the image itself. For example, here's a fairly quick and crappy drawing of a person I imagined standing in front of a view from a hike I saw a week ago. It's not a good drawing, because I'm not a good artist, but it gives a good idea of the picture in my heard, which is way clearer for me than this end result it. I never saw the person, although I've seen people in long dresses before, and obviously I'm not up on the ridge. I don't take pictures because I see them as an insult to the view, to nature, and my own memory.

>I did, but I would never consider that better than an anime.
I guess that's where we differ, because often times I find myself imagining a different ending or way a scene would go in an anime and liking the results a lot better. I've always wanted to be a director of a movie or something but I'm afraid that the end product wouldn't live up to the concept in my head. For me, the ability to manipulate and view the story from any angle makes it a lot more engaging than just sitting and observing. Ideally I'd like to have an interesting or happy life too but that genuinely feels too much like observing to me than my daydreams do.

>Because you insulted something I like, and that pisses me off. You did it twice, even after I was polite and said "to each their own"
You're taking my dislike of hentai personally? Seriously? I'm going to give my honest opinion on it, which is more a reflection of my tastes than the quality of the work. For what it's worth, I think it's well crafted, it just visually disgusts me and that's for me personally. I'll say that, and it's not an insult to you, or even an insult to hentai. It's like saying you dislike clam chowder while knowing there are plenty of people to whom clam chowder tastes very good. Personally I love clam chowder but I know some people who don't, I wouldn't consider it an "insult" to my love of clam chowder. I thought we were just sharing opinions here. None of this is intended to be an insult, I'm just responding genuinely.

>>40722
You are limited by all that on the internet as well, it's a series of echo chambers and when they interact they are not interacting sincerely and only to insult the other and to try to prove themselves right.
But reality is bigger than just what you can observe in your limited surrounding, you can even use the internet to observe reality. However, 4chan and twitter are not reality or a means to observe reality.

>>40724
>I find myself imagining a different ending or way a scene would go in an anime and liking the results a lot better.
Not the anon you're responding to, but this is orthogonal to "minds eye" visualization. Even people with aphantasia can assume the hypothetical and reason about future or non-existent circumstances. As I glibly noted in the previous comment, the whole subthread stems from people talking past each other in conveying and understanding others' subjective experiences. Aphantasia has auditory parallels as well, and for such a person the concept of "earworm" tunes would be completely foreign and he'd think others were insane. Likewise for the concept of inner-voice (or lack thereof, or in the extreme multiple inner-voices, etc.)

>>40726
I doubt that the original anon has aphantasia, I just find it baffling that someone wouldn't be able to find arousal from their own imagination. Even when I would read hentai or watch porn in the past I would typically extrapolate from the existing scene in ways that allowed the imagined scenarios to actually target my arousal. If I was just using purely visual medium without any "add-on" thoughts, I think I probably couldn't become aroused. In fact, thinking about what COULD be done is probably the arousing part of it to begin with. Looking at a girl and imagining removing her clothing, feeling her, letting your senses encounter her, thoughts of those kinds of things are what make seeing a pretty girl arousing to begin with. Just seeing it and doing nothing with it in your mind would be boring.

>>40727
>I doubt that the original anon has aphantasia
It's not a binary condition though, I'd assume that those with weaker minds-eye are more likely to enjoy stronger visual stimulus, and vice-versa. It's also not a rare phenomenon, it's just underreported because of the nature of qualia. I wonder if there's a correlation between liking (or disliking) fiction novels and degree of aphantasia, and whether the opposite correlation exists for television. There are likely clear correlations between art talent and minds-eye visualization ability, but I wonder if the opposite correlation exists for mathematics (that is, to compensate for lack of direct visualization aphantics learn to abstract in other ways (e.g. symbolic manipulation) which could benefit them in this field).

>>40724
>I don't take pictures because I see them as an insult to the view, to nature, and my own memory.
This is a picture I took because I thought it looks interesting and I acknowledge the limitations of my memory.

When a real life location is used in an anime, I would bet they use photographs as references most of the time.

Post edited on 15th Oct 2022, 5:43am

>>40727
When I'm aroused, I don't feel like exerting mental effort. That distracts from my arousal. Visuals are already enough for me, so I don't need to do anything else. And I'd also rather have something to actually touch than just imaging it. Trying to imagine it would frustrate me, because the effort required would constantly remind me that it's not real.

When I was in middle school, I experimented with these things, and these are the conclusion I came to.

>>40728
I can enjoy a fiction novel, but it has been a while since I've read one.

>>40729
I appreciate the picture, it's a nice sky. I wonder, now, does the value of pictures lie in our ability to share something with someone else? Maybe they do. I have to wonder how much of our technology exists because we wanted to tell other people things.

A lot of languages have clusterfuck toolchains, at least on Windows. Go is how to do it right. You install one thing, and you have it all. Then you use one command, "go", to compile and get libraries.

Rust, on the other hand, requires visual studio's "build tools". When you use Rust's own installer though, it'll direct you to the full visual studio installer. Both are massive as hell. Even when you only install the build tools, including some windows sdk bullshit you need, it takes like 10gb, and an annoying "open in visual studio" button appears in file explorer's context menu, which requires editing the registry to remove.

I'm sure there's a very complicated justification for why it it's like this. I hate it though. Rust is billed as a mature C++ replacement. So it should not require a bunch of bloated, Windows, C++ cruft to use.

Haskell too. On their website, it lists 3 programs you need to install to use the language. GHC for the compiler, cabal-install, for getting libraries I guess, I'm not really sure, and Stack, "a cross-platform program for developing Haskell projects". Why? Do I NEED all of these? Is "GHCup" a competitor to Stack? It's confusing. Why not just put the bare minimum together and call it Haskell? Here's your Haskell_setup.exe.

The "Learn you A Haskell for Great Good" book recommends installing it through the "Haskell Platform", but that's been deprecated.

Here's a github issue from this April that mentions this problem https://github.com/haskell-infra/www.haskell.org/issues/191
I get the impression that the "Haskell community" is full of people who argue about stupid things and lack pragmatism. There's nothing to discuss. Make it simple.

>>40740
>Go is how to do it right.
Except for its insistence on hijacking your home directory to install go modules there. Did they ever fix that?

>Rust, on the other hand, requires visual studio's "build tools"
It might have to do with rust relying on the platform linker (which on windows you can only get by installing vs studio), whereas go has its own toolchain. This isn't the fault of rust, it's a fault of windows for not providing a minimal CLI-only version of build tools like you can get on *nixes or mac.

>Rust is billed as a mature C++ replacement. So it should not require a bunch of bloated, Windows, C++ cruft to use.
As mentioned above, it's a problem with windows. You don't have this problem on other machines. I believe rust compiler relies on llvm, which is pretty much the gold standard.

>. GHC for the compiler, cabal-install, for getting libraries I guess, I'm not really sure, and Stack, "a cross-platform program for developing Haskell projects"
It's not necessary to install the latter two, or at least it wasn't back when I dabbled with it, so they're technically independent. The suggested installation pathway may still want you to install those other two though, which I'd argue is bad because if I'm just playing around with haskell and never going to install any 3rd party packages I don't need cabal. If you're on a *nix it's trivial to just apt install only the ghc compiler, if you're on windows you're on your own because no developer really bothers packaging for it. Install it under WSL maybe.

>is full of people who argue about stupid things and lack pragmatism. There's nothing to discuss. Make it simple.
I don't really see it as worse than the python or javascript communities here, everyone wants their own package manager. Try python and you're bombarded with pip vs pottery vs pipx vs virtualenv vs. whatever.

>>40740
One thing I appreciate about D is the ease in setting things up. For the reference compiler, there's an installer, and for the LLVM-based one, it's just unzip, add to PATH, and go.

>>40742
>Did they ever fix that?
It's been a while since I've used it, but I never had a problem with the actual home directory being filled. Maybe a sub-directory in it, but that doesn't bother me.
>it's a fault of windows for not providing a minimal CLI-only version of build tools
I'll give you that. Haskell though provides instructions for using MSYS2 to build GHC. It seems you can do this with Rust too. https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47379214/step-by-step-instruction-to-install-rust-and-cargo-for-mingw-with-msys2
>Try python
Python has a rich standard library, whereas Haskell takes the opposite approach, as far as I've heard.

TC is small enough that I recognize the regular posters, and the lurkers that pop up to leave in-depth replies. I don't like recognizing them though because then it breaks the illusion of anonymity and objectiveness since I can recall if past interactions with them have been favorable or not (and I grow to dread reading posts by those whom I have grown to dislike. On the other hand if you're one of the lurkers who make quality posts, then I thank you since that's the only reason why I bother refreshing TC).

I'm upset at how the two boards that I liked the most (on other websites) are dead. I have no online or real-life friends, and I enjoy it being this way, but it is frustrating when I no longer have anyone to converse online with over imageboards who I can relate to, and it is beyond frustrating to open my favorite video games only to see the player count having dwindled ever more. Even though I barely type in the chat, I pick up on the personas of people in co-op video games, feel a relation to them, then become frustrated when they no longer play. Even with the ones I hate, I would sooner join a server with them on it than one full of strangers.
My own habits begin to confuse me. I repetitively check boards where no new posts are being made, and I open up co-op game after game trying to find a good server when there is none.

Can someone explain me why I could not riichi here? The mahjong board would not accept my image due to its size.

Second image.

For some reason sonic pest repellents are legal, even though they put out 100+ dB in the VHF/ultrasonic range which can damage hearing, and these likely don't even work for their intended purpose. Fuck the people who install these in their yards. And same for motion activated strobe lights, presumably for the same purpose.

>>40757
>motion activated strobe lights
That's some serious cunt bs there. Normal lights can at least denture trespassers, but that just sounds obnoxious for everyone living in the area.

The way trannies conduct themselves. Their anime profile pics add insult to injury,
https://contributors.scala-lang.org/t/politics-safety-and-the-future-of-scala/5317/78

rational person:
>The thing that I most enjoy about contributing online is that nobody needs to know who I am unless I want them to... I never need to be judged based on irrelevant characteristics because I can choose to not reveal them, or pretend that they’re other than what they actually are.

tranny:
>This is an appalling thing to say. To suggest that people hide who they are and that they are members of minorities, in order to avoid harassment and abuse? ... Suggesting such a thing is inappropriate and disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself.

What does being a minority have to do with a pseudo-functional jvm language????? Why would that ever come up???????

edit: the "controversy" surrounding ZIO's leader is apparently also overblown bullshit. Why am I not surprised.

Post edited on 20th Oct 2022, 11:43am

>>40760
in the west (mainly US) the concept of "anonymity" is so unknown that it's actually scary for them. It'd mean they'd have to swallow their ego, which is something they could never do, because their whole life revolves around being self-centered.

Post edited on 20th Oct 2022, 11:49am

>>40760
Because they, this person and people like him, are political foot soldiers, suffering social contagions. It's annoying, but I do feel bad for them.

>>39844
the rake is curved so it scoops and punctured the leaves while a broom is soft and straight which makes you need to strain harder to gather all the leaves

>>40760
>What does being a minority have to do with a pseudo-functional jvm language????? Why would that ever come up???????

Because they are absolutely, cripplingly desperate to be validated for their choices. I don't like to generalise but typically these types of people make their trans identity effectively their entire identity ... It's not a whole lot different to the types of people we used to call wapanese back when, when everything they have to say revolves around that one facet of their existence.

Difference being that trans people have the traction / social awareness behind their movement that they have actual power and influence

>>40768
>types of people we used to call "wapanese" back when
Were you not called wapanese back then? Right now it seems that you are making fun of what used to be the "wapanese" back then and that the "we" you were part of was outside of the "wapanese" group, which is interesting since you are here.

I agree with your point but why would you make fun of wapanese on an otaku imageboard?

>>40774
Konnichiwa senpai :3

Not that anon, but I don't blame people for making fun of overweight, furry, naruto cosplayers with a delusional infatuation with Japan.

>>40774
Also not him, from what I know and have seen, Wapanese is lobbed not at actual (Western) otaku but those who merely imitate the lifestyle in an obnoxious and ignorant way.
Of course, its modern incarnation is bastardized and liberally applied.

Flicking/strobing flashlights.

When I buy a flashlight (or torch for the euro trash) I just want it to turn on and turn off. Is that so much to ask for?
Instead the norm seems to be to make flashlights cycle functions. The one I have next to me at the moment for each button press is
On > off > dimly lit> off > flash/strobe > off
I keep accidentally turning on the strobe mode with this damn thing.
Before this I bought a portable flood light which took this issue to the next step. It had the same cycling functions on a single power button, but it had dedicated red and blue LED for it's strobe mode. So I guess whenever you were going to work on something, you had a random chance of making it look like the cops were on your ass (and if they saw that, they might likely be)
I wish people with epilepsy would sue flashlight makers and make them stop this shit.
If nothing else, products should put disclaimers on the packaging so I can avoid this crap. The last flashlight I bought, holy hell, I was actually trilled to find that when I pressed the button it lit up, and when I pressed it again it turned off, and did that again when I pressed it again. How crazy is that? A flashlight that just turns on and off! What will they think of next?

>>40780
I don't know if they still make them, but the ones with an on/off switch that moves up and down (like a physical switch, not a button you press) should avoid the strobe modes.

Email mailing lists. I'd love to have a cleanly curated email inbox but it's seemingly impossible. It's like every time I buy something from a new website I get a million emails if I don't see whatever tiny box I forgot to check. I just cleaned out 4000 fucking emails of spam from my personal gmail account and I don't have the heart to sift through my mindspring account. I just want to keep emails from my family, first-use account info from particular companies or websites, and any emails from friends or people reaching out with real information to pass on. I just fucking hate how mail works, paper or digital. I'm a neat freak and it's driving me insane.

CRXN. I think it's a hypocritical project. "We aim to create a more open Internet available to everyone"... except it's centralized, and they have rules which can be enforced arbitrarily to kick people off of the network. You can't have it both ways, cocksucker.

Post edited on 3rd Nov 2022, 9:00am

>>40793
What in the flying fuck.

>>40792
Those aren't mailing lists, that's just spam. Actual mailing lists are mostly dead now (except mostly for kernel development where LKML still reigns, and it's used in large tech companies).

It pisses me off when pixel art/low color images are converted into lossy formats like JPEG or MP4. Aside from the compression artifacts ruining the image, you don't even get the file size benefits.

Just work at a pixel size 8 times larger than what you normally do (i.e. 1x1 virtual pixel = 8x8 actual pixels). Then jpeg should technically be lossless!

Edit: Forgot about subsampling, make that 16x then, or configure your jpeg encoder to not subsample

Post edited on 3rd Nov 2022, 7:12pm

>>40798
I don't do it myself because there's no reason to when even unoptimized low color PNGs/GIFs are smaller than the most "lossless" JPEG/MP4 setting, but a lot of clueless artists and incompetent tech companies keep doing it.

Cute stuff is great, but I find that only Japan really does it well (and maybe other Eastern cultures, but I'm not familiar enough to say). Western attempts feel off-putting at best and often creepy. Everything from stuff that's marketed to children (and by extension to the normalfag manchild that watches Disney) to corporate flat-art.
Makes more sad than mad, actually.

>>40803
How about kermit?

>>40804
sesame street used to be pretty good before they went and elmo-fied everything. I wouldn't say it's cute in the "moe" sense, but it's at least _not uncute_ (modulo big bird), in that I wouldn't mind watching it. See also >>37127.

>>40692
Just noting in case it's helpful for anyone that Yandex's index seems to include and surface these obscure sites. Their ranking for non-exact searches is a bit poor, but for exact searches in quotes they're able to pull up this long-tail. The only shame is that I keep having to fill out a captcha every 5 searches, but at least it's an older text-only recaptcha-style one. It's long been commonly held knowledge that their reverse-image search was superior, and I guess now they have the edge for text as well.

>>40805
Not related to this discussion, but my sister was talking about how Elmo is African-American or whatever. Dumbest thing I've ever heard.
I get the idea behind it, but it feels really out of touch with the children that would be watching Sesame Street. Kids that age don't care about race. They look at Elmo and think he is their monster friend on the TV. Even if it is or isn't true, the fact that the idea exists is pathetic. Parents or whoever just want to pat themselves on the back because they AREN'T racist and they're raising a kid to not be racist. That's all bullshit though. If they actually wanted to do that, they'd stop being fixated on race and forcing it everywhere when it isn't relevant. Ultimately they're still looking at things with an "us vs. them" point of view and pushing it on to their kids. It'd be better to let the kids notice for themselves.
A lot of modern parenting is stupid bullshit like this. It's all masturbatory trash for the parents at the expense of the child. It all misses the point entirely.

>>40807
I forgot where I read this, but essentially what I remember is that Elmo wasn't supposed to be a positive role-model, Elmo represented the selfish, childlike part of the psyche. Children may be able to relate to the character in that sense, but ultimately the episodes were supposed to show how naively listening to this part of psyche doesn't lead to long-term favorable outcomes. Somewhere along the way this got twisted and Elmo became the main character when it was never supposed to be that way, and in doing so the entire thing crumbles.

I can sort of see how one might squint at that and come to the conclusion that Elmo's an african-american or something, but it's a twisted and indirect conclusion at best.

>>40808
I think the whole concept of a never-ending children's show is questionable, in terms of providing a positive influence. If the show never ends, the characters can never grow.

>>40809
You can have characters grow in a show that doesn't end, but it won't be episodic in nature.

>>40810
If elmo matured though, he'd also lose his purpose for existing. The audience is constantly changing, and haven't seen the older episodes.

>>40809
If a character has to grow then the character was flawed to begin with, if a character is good the they should stay the same.

>>40812
If a character never grows, then why even have a story? You effectively end up with a slice-of-life, but even good slice of lifes are distinguished from bad ones by character growth.