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37253 No. 37253 [Edit]
What are some things that really bug you?
Things that genuinely piss you off?

I thought it would be nice to have a thread to vent about any little annoyance, no mater how big or small.
Any and all complains about the world around you are welcome here!
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>> No. 37254 [Edit]
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37254
I don't like junk food. Fast food, american candy bars, stuff from cans. Lately I've been noticing that these things lack vibrancy somehow. They taste "dead". There's lots of sugar and salt and oil, but it reminds me a reanimated corpse. Something like dried cherries are a lot nicer to me, but those products don't sell as well as those breakfast cereal abominations.

I like fresh ingredients and some raw things and I can't stand over-cooked meat. The acidity and mild sweetness of a raw tomato and berries can't be replicated by artificial flavors or if they're more processed. Yet lots of people are satisfied with and actually like dominoes and burger king, so do they not detect this difference? Can they not tell when food tastes more "alive"?

Post edited on 4th Jan 2021, 10:25am
>> No. 37256 [Edit]
>>37254
Never been a big foodie personally. I know junk food is shit and unhealthy but since I don't tend to think much about food, I don't really care. I will say however that I'm genetically predisposed to drink mountain dew, given that my fathers family all also drink it in copious amounts.
>> No. 37258 [Edit]
>>37256
I don't know what your diet is like, but if you don't care much about food in general, wouldn't eating healthy be just as easy and eating junk for you?

Some studies indicated eating Oreos got a greater pleasure response from rats than cocaine. The few times I ate one though as a kid, I got the sense that whatever I was eating was toxic just from the taste and immediately wanted to stop. I don't remember if I ever drank Mountain Dew before, but I have drank Gatorade and that also reminded me of poison.
>> No. 37261 [Edit]
>>37258
It's astounding that most snacks in america are so sugary. Oreos are cloyingly sweet. And especially worrying that popular cereals are just means to funnel sugar (people eat cookies for breakfast?). It's hard to find things that aren't drenched with it (and you always have to be on the lookout for products that claim 0 sugar but then just use aspartame or some other substitute; it's still sweet!).
>> No. 37263 [Edit]
>>37261
Does any of that even have real sugar? I'm sure it would taste far better if it did. Sugar "replacements" are so much worse than what they're supposed to save you from.
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>>37263
They use corn syrup a lot because it's cheaper. It's possible to avoid it if you're willing to pay a bit more.

Post edited on 4th Jan 2021, 6:10pm
>> No. 37265 [Edit]
>>37254
I think the majority of fast food is garbage but some of it is tolerable, we don't have burger king here but some fast food places do serve decent BBQ burgers, it must be the sauce it has more flavour so it can conceal more. I never had American sweets but our local chocolate tends to be quite bad, Swiss and Belgian chocolate are good though, some local chocolate can be good if it is a kind that has some other flavour with it like licorice coated chocolate but even then it's just alright.

Also it seems that many people are just too lazy to cook. It really surprises me but for example my sister and my brother cannot cook and do not cook, they pretty much have takeaway every night. I don't understand how people can be so lazy and waste so much money like that.
>> No. 37270 [Edit]
>>37265
I'm not a fan of barbeque sauce. It's sweet and like you said masks the flavor of the meat. Sweet and savory isn't a combo I'm into. Maybe it's different in your country. Chocolate's not generally my thing either, but when I do eat it, I prefer it to be as dark as possible.
>> No. 37271 [Edit]
>>37270
BBQ sauce isn't necessarily sweet; it's just that Kansas City-style (and similar ones like Memphis) is the most prevalent among the mainstream brands. The best sauces are the ones that permeate the meat and accentuate it with the sauces' spices. With that said, if you want a sweet BBQ sauce, cook down fruit to make it, and then pour it on some hearty rice. The result will be deliciously decadent, filling, and if done right, healthy enough.
>> No. 37272 [Edit]
>>37258
"Junk" food tends to be cheaper in my experience with careful reading of price tags and calorie count, aside from actually baking my own bread or just eating nothing but rice. I guess if I really think about it, most junk food tastes like bready sawdust with some salt and flavorless sauce. But since junk food is "easier" to make and eat, I prefer it over food that might take some time to prepare and that I can't just shove down my throat to maximize caloric intake. What I lack in vitamins I make up for in not actually making up for it and accepting my shortened lifespan due to laziness.
>> No. 37297 [Edit]
Red lipstick annoys me and I don't know why anybody likes it. Lighter colored lips always look better.
>> No. 37298 [Edit]
>>37297
I don't like make-ups in general.
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>>37298
Make-up is funny in the sense that it practically represents the dishonest nature of women. They (used to) do whatever it takes to look all pretty and nice but it's all a facade for the hideousness underneath and this doesn't just apply to their outwards appearance. Supposedly it's bad for the skin that they act like they care about so much so I didn't like the sound of it much.
>> No. 37303 [Edit]
>>37297
I agree. I think it looks like shit and I don't get it.
>> No. 37304 [Edit]
>>37297
>>37303
>>37302
I've been reading a book that explains the biological reasons for things like lipsticks, comparing it to monkey and other animal behavior.
While natural, it kinda makes it even more disgusting.
I'm at this point were I dislike women so much that I'm afraid the disgust could even reach the 2D world.
>> No. 37305 [Edit]
>>37302
Often the reason they use makeup in the first place is because they have bad skin.
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>>37304
>I'm at this point were I dislike women so much that I'm afraid the disgust could even reach the 2D world.
Men like women for the way they look, or an ideal of how they look(2d characters). Woman don't own that though. They think they do, but they don't. It doesn't belong to them. They'll all grow old and unappealing, but those ideal images were created by men and are eternal. I have hope that there's light at the end of the tunnel. That ideal can become completely independent of its disappointing model.
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>>37304
>I'm at this point were I dislike women so much that I'm afraid the disgust could even reach the 2D world.
I'm already there. Not completely, of course, but I notice similarities between the behaviors and opinions of characters and 3d sometimes.
>>37306
Sometimes I wonder if the reason women screech so much about how fictional characters looking good is somehow sexist is really just rooted in their own case of body envy. But I'm extremely insecure about my own body and I've never done the same so that explanation always felt too simple for me to believe while also being too believable to dismiss.

Post edited on 8th Jan 2021, 7:50am
>> No. 37308 [Edit]
>>37306
I know it's not rational, but sometimes I can't help but be remembered of them by any representation. I hope that doesn't make me completely fall for the trap trap. Sometimes I like to apply platonism and think 3DPD is just a bad, flawed copy of the ideal 2D, so more real that what we usually call real.

>>37307
I suspect I know the reasons for that. You don't compete. Even if you did the worth of a male is just marginally related to his physical form. 2D (or porn, sex-dolls, prostitution) is a serious competence, not because they need us losers for any kind of relation but because an higher demand adds to their value. I could easily find women that feel the most extreme disgust for me, but at the same time express perplexity and almost feel indignant to my disdain for any relation with their kind. It's also a matter of simple power.
>> No. 37309 [Edit]
>>37308
>at the same time express perplexity and almost feel indignant to my disdain for any relation with their kind
I haven't seen much of that. Maybe they think that way, but it seems more common for them to dismiss people they don't like not trying as a good thing. It really doesn't matter. Just ignore the annoying ones.
>> No. 37310 [Edit]
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37310
Evolutionary Psychology. I looked at some of it, watched a few videos made by "experts" in the field. From what I've seen, it's 99% speculation. It's actually worse than psychology because their "findings" aren't directly based on the things they're about. It's also annoying how it drags evolution into itself.
>> No. 37314 [Edit]
>>37310
Psychology in general is often seen as barely being a science. Having said that though, we have been making progress in brain chemistry and how that relates to mental states, but is that really psychology?
>> No. 37315 [Edit]
>>37314
No, that's neuroscience. Psychology is the study of "the mind and behavior". It's entirely founded upon the idea of a "mind" and the assumptions that comes with it because that was the best people could do at the time of its inception. Neuroscience will eventually subsume psychology.
>> No. 37317 [Edit]
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Self-deprecating jokes. They aren't funny to me because the punchlines are often recycled and it just comes off as someone trying to make fun of themselves before anyone else can or because they are desperate to be seen as funny and be liked. Youtubers like doing this sometimes and that just makes it more annoying because I don't understand why those creatures need to try so hard to be liked when their life will be handed to them because they are normalshits. The only defense that I know of is the most common one that says people should "not take themselves too seriously and learn to laugh at themselves" but self-deprecating jokes don't ever feel like that. I thought "not taking yourself too seriously" would be something more along the lines of keeping your ego in check, learning to yield when the time calls for it, valuing another person's viewpoint equally instead of rooting yourself in your own position, and other things that can make a person more reasonable. I think I have seen one or two self-deprecating jokes that were actually funny but I have seen it very rarely.
>> No. 37318 [Edit]
>>37317
Doesn't seem like you have a beef with self-deprecating jokes--just boring and recycled jokes in general, employed by egotists and egoists.
>> No. 37319 [Edit]
>>37317
Another problem with such jokes is that if they aren't true it just comes across as incredibly fake like if an attractive person jokes about being ugly and if it is true and they joke about it it just sounds sad and like he had given up and is now even putting himself down to fit in.
>> No. 37320 [Edit]
>Things that genuinely piss you off?
People like this guy >>37317. What an absolute dick.
>> No. 37321 [Edit]
>>37320
If you disagree with something someone else says, either explain why or ignore them. Passive aggressively insulting them in the third person is being a dick.
>> No. 37322 [Edit]
>>37321
Dude you're an asshole plain and simple.

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>> No. 37323 [Edit]
>>37322
I'm not the same anon.
>> No. 37324 [Edit]
>(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Must have hit the soft spot.

Refer to rules 11 and 3
>> No. 37325 [Edit]
>>37317
I assume most of them are attempts at not taking one's self too seriously, and highlighting one's faults to demonstrate humility while showing that the person knows they aren't perfect. But as you said, many don't seem to understand this and instead use this type of humor simply because it's popular to do so.
>> No. 37326 [Edit]
>>37325
I think it can also be a coping mechanism. If you make fun of yourself, your problems also seem more trivial. I do that in my head sometimes.
>> No. 37346 [Edit]
Kids on the internet giving their snarky takes on how outdated old worldviews were/are and how we "need to progress past them". Jesus Christ, it must smell having your head that far up your own ass. I'm no one to praise the past as a perfect ideal in any way, and I really do mean that, but it just gets me off the wrong way to see people acting so arrogant of their own supposedly un-anachronistic platitudes. Especially knowing most of these are late highschoolers or uni kiddies who just ran into a different worldview from their dads for the first time. As if the heavily impressionable youth of today and the decade before is anymore knowledgeable about "true right" than people who knew about the very same ideas they laud now, over a hundred years ago. I know they really believe in their pea-sized brains that it's their moral duty to drag everyone kicking and screaming into the future, and it's obnoxious as hell. Maybe you don't have to reinvent the fucking wheel.
>> No. 37347 [Edit]
>>37346
Politics in general have became something that annoy me. People get way too engrossed in these narratives and it's bad for the country. I just want to enjoy my goddamn escapism without getting told I'm a racist or a cuck. I'm not even an "enlightened centrist". I'm just tired and want a nice and peaceful life that doesn't have some contrived drama trying to get me to hate my fellow countrymen.
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>>37347
People get so into politics because they're spiritually starved and faced with a constant existential threat from people with power. They have no identity or validation from society. They don't feel comfortable or in control. There's no reassuarance that you're all right, things are all right and everything will get better. When you're in your own little town and things are going good and everybody is on the same page, that's when people are happy.
>> No. 37350 [Edit]
>>37349
The obsessive nature of people currently into politics has come across to me as almost identical to religious zealots from before. It should have been obvious in retrospect that people's lost of faith would create a void. It absolutely seems that political parties have now replaced religions among the weak of mind.
>> No. 37351 [Edit]
>>37350
I think you're onto something here. I can see how we're closing in into a 21th century Spanish Inquisition.
>> No. 37369 [Edit]
Reminder that everything is political--including your bowel movements and digital representations thereof. (I hate it.)
>> No. 37402 [Edit]
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37402
Politics replacing spirituality is an interesting observation, people also use materialism as a replacement for it, specifically brand loyalty. More thinking is required to make a point about this.
>> No. 37403 [Edit]
>>37402
The general population are incapable of creating value for themselves and in the absence of religion they will always find a need to replace it with something else, an identity if you will. A (false) sense of belonging. It can virtually be anything that resonates and reinforces their extant inner values. You could say that this might be the natural order of things and what leads to the rise and fall of civilization although the cycle have probably been disrupted in the modern world and instead takes semblance as the materialism you've mentioned.

Post edited on 21st Jan 2021, 10:37pm
>> No. 37405 [Edit]
>>37402
While I believe politics have replaced religion, I think brand loyalty may be to an extent a replacement for tribes and communities similar to sports for a long time now, but mainly it's about one's projected personal image.
In political obsession, I see people treat political figures like deities. I've seen some people even compare those who wont be named to Jesus. They hang on these people's every word, they think what the party/religion tells them to think, they buy what they're told to buy, they hate who the party tells them to hate, and they elevate the leaders to unrealistic levels while forgetting they're just people at the end of the day. I don't think it's a coincidence the word "cult" is being tossed around a lot in politics these days.

Hard core brand loyalty on the other hand, with the exception of perhaps apple or tesla, don't generally have a figure head for people to wordship. It's not about a belief set or life style principles as we're seeing with politics, it's about identity and belonging to a group or team. When someone buys "Supreme" products and ensures the name is plastered across everything they own, what they're really buying is an image, something that proudly boasts who they are and what group they're affiliated with. That brand might be something that says "I'm better than you because I know about this cool product only cool people like me know about". Or someone might subscribe to energy drink brands, falling for the advertising campaigns and trying to give off the wild cool rebellious energetic impression. They might cover themselves in Adidas to look like a rich athlete, or whatever the hell those Russians are going for when they do that.

That said, I think the more mild form of brand loyalty is simply a case of people sticking with what they know, or what has served them well in the past. I keep buying ThinkPads, because I've had little issue with them vs other brands which appear more unreliable in my limited experience. I'm also guilty of having a bias towards sony products in spite of disliking the direction the company has gone and having issues with their more recent products. In that case it's less objective decision making and more a nostalgia and a sticking with what used to work, even if it doesn't anymore. Humans do this a lot I think. If something works once, and it becomes proven, they'll assume it will continue that way and these people will stay with it even when it starts to do more harm than good. Hell, they even do this with other humans. Of course I may have also succumb to the 'image' appeal, maybe part of me felt that brand gave off a clean cut image, one of good reliable reputation.. Even when you know what industries do, it can be hard for someone who's only human to resist their manipulative tactics. Lord only knows how much money and research some of these companies have put into understanding the human mind and how best to take advantage of it. People who think they haven't been manipulated to even some degree, probably just don't realize how bad they have it.
>> No. 37406 [Edit]
>>37403
I sometimes wonder how much of my own beliefs are really reflective of my core values and how much has been grafted on by politics and in-groups. I have had a rather tumultuous political journey and pretty much explored every single possible ideology to try and see what really resonated with me. I think at the end the only thing I came out with was a knowledge of simple likes and dislikes that I'd always been repressing, and the realization that if I wanted to do something, if I had an ambition or goal, I would have to have the power to do it. I guess, I just plainly don't like people who aren't the same race as me. I wish I could say I had some reason, but the truth is I just feel uncomfortable around them, and I don't care enough about world unity or whatever to try to force myself to like them.
>> No. 37413 [Edit]
Few seemingly take it easy these days.
>> No. 37418 [Edit]
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It doesn't make me angry per se but it gives me more of a confused annoyance. I never understood or liked how unpopular people like robots or hikineets will be so eager to throw insults at normals like calling them "losers", "pathetic", or some other such insults that implies they look down on them. I don't mean this as if I think normals are above such people, but it is odd to me that such unfortunate people will look down on people who are more "successful" in some ways than they are just because they can brag about having chose their lifestyle unlike normals who do what they do because they want to but fail at it for whatever reason or still succeed but are still looked down upon by unpopular people. It makes even less sense to me when they call people like them such names.

Post edited on 24th Jan 2021, 12:11am
>> No. 37419 [Edit]
>>37418
If you get raped as a kid you will rape as an adult, if you get abused, you will abuse. It's almost a natural law. And it's perfectly logical, you interact with the language you have been teached.
One of my sources of frustration is how I can't become an abuser in any context even after being abused, it feels like a biological malfunction.
>> No. 37420 [Edit]
>>37419
>If you get raped as a kid you will rape as an adult

But that's wrong, though.
>> No. 37421 [Edit]
>>37419
As the anon above me said this untrue. I personally know people who where raped as children and have not grown up to be pedos or rapists. Processing your trauma and realizing it wasn't your fault is way way better for yourself and everyone else then going out and repeating the same mistakes. Pain breeds pain, break the cycle because if you cause more pain you are only garunteeing to hurt yourself even more.
>> No. 37422 [Edit]
>>37420
>>37421
No, I didn't mean getting raped as a kid means a 100% mathematically perfect chance you will rape as an adult and absolutelly all persons that ever got raped became rapists, it's just common on sexual abusers to have a past of sexual abuse themselves, it's a common factor to take in consideration.

>Processing your trauma and realizing it wasn't your fault

Are you sure it wasn't, though? In all cases? Who decides that?
>> No. 37423 [Edit]
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>>37418
>it is odd to me that such unfortunate people will look down on people who are more "successful" in some ways than they are
That doesn't make much sense. People, including myself, look down on normalfags because of their mindset. "Success" isn't part of it, the obsession with "success" is.
>> No. 37425 [Edit]
>>37423
Not him but what I think he's saying is that it's petty and a waste of energy. You're also acting like them in a way, playing the same game. Normals enjoy mocking and belittling those they see bellow them to feel better about themselves, often out of insecurity. They need constant reminders that there are people less successful than themselves, so they can say to themselves "I'm glad I'm not like 'those' people".
We can and should be better than that. Let the normals ruin their lives and pretend they're better off. Let them wage slave to pay for their useless degree, their 40 year mortgage, their child support for kids they never get to see. let them blast hiphop/rock from their generic muscle cars that they'll never finish paying off so they can feel oh so cool. Let them get drunk on their couch after work while screaming at successful athletes on the tv who they live vicariously through because they can't face the fact they haven't done anything with their own lives. We don't need their approval, we don't need to prop ourselves up by putting them down, we don't need anything from them.
>> No. 37426 [Edit]
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>>37425
That's fine and all, but normalfags are actually harmful and dangerous to me in a multitude of ways. They also outnumber us by a massive degree. Belittling normalfags isn't something I'd do to feel like I'm worth something, it would be a coping mechanism for being afraid of and nearly powerless against them.
>> No. 37427 [Edit]
>>37425
>we don't need anything from them.

Sadly, most of us we do. Starting with getting a job and keeping it, basically means having to deal with them every single day unless you or your family are rich.
About the insecurity thing, it makes me think; I'm the most insecure of all and never did that, it's weird that insecurity serves as an explanation of being both and agressive bastard and a passive weakling. Not a particular criticism, just something that bothers me.
>> No. 37428 [Edit]
>>37425
You seem very eager to belittle other people yourself, anon.
>> No. 37429 [Edit]
People who drive slow annoy me. They aren't driving slow because they're worried about being safe. They're often some of the worst drivers on the road. They think that by driving slow they're being safe and as a result pay the minimal amount of attention to what's going on around them. When you're driving quickly (within reason) you have to pay attention. It's a weird paradox but both my personal experience and statistics seem to bear it out.

I want more places with minimum speed limits. And higher top speed limits. Modern cars can do so much more than 60mph safely as long as the weather isn't bad.

>>37426
You should keep in mind not all normalfags are like that. It's just that the ones who are stick out very strongly. Most normals seem more confused by our types than hateful but it's easy to miss when there does exist that certain subset of insecure normies who take offense at our existence.
>> No. 37430 [Edit]
>>37429
>not all normalfags are like that
The only difference is their level of ignorance and authority. The more they learn and more influence they have, the more hostile they become.
>> No. 37432 [Edit]
>>37422
Gotcha on the first bit. I'm saying it's cultural in the cases where it does happen and doesn't need to be that way. Who decides that? The act of rape itself is a violent coercive act, by definition the victim isn't at fault, especially a child because a child cannot consent to sex because they don't even understand what sex is.
>> No. 37434 [Edit]
>>37429
The autobahn is a good example
>> No. 37436 [Edit]
>>37429
I hate driving and I hate the competitive driving mentality. It's fucking retarded that people tap into their primal tribal brain for what in reality is a mundane, boring, and inefficient daily commute. It's not like it's a fun street race or something where you'll really get any substantial benefit in commute time, I can't understand why so many people put so much emotion into it. The amount of road rage I've witnessed between two dumbass drivers just boggles my mind. Are people really that desperate to get to mr. shekelsteins office 30 seconds sooner? I think the multi-lane highway was just a huge mistake. Why on gods green earth would you put people in a situation where their brains will instinctively get frustrated with any decrease in momentum or speed? I don't even blame the drivers, I understand perfectly well what it feels like to want to go a little faster in some task, but to have to wait for other things to get into place in order to do so. That's what makes it such a bad idea in my opinion, because it's not something that you should let that impatient part of your brain manage.
>> No. 37438 [Edit]
>>37429
I've heard in many places cops will pull you over for it. I know I've spoken to a few who can't seem to grape the concept of slower drivers putting people at risk. People driving at normal rates of speeds or higher have to bob and weave around people like this, these people think they have the right to make everyone else drive slow and intentionally block faster drivers, hitting breaks for no reason, grid locking, ect. This only creates congestion and accidents, but good luck explaining that to these people who think they're heros.
>> No. 37439 [Edit]
>>37426
>>37427
That's true, we do need to cooperate with them on some level. What I meant is you don't need them to feel good about yourself.

>>37428
You might be right, maybe I'm a hypocrite.
>> No. 37441 [Edit]
>>37429
I'm a slow driver, I drive at what speed I am comfortable with and I don't care if I hold anybody up.

In my country and area at least it is not slow drivers that cause accidents, statistically it is fast drivers. I live in the country, most people that crash here do so due to overconfidence, it's not the city folk that crash as being in a new area they are slow and cautious, it's the locals that crash as they get overconfident and go faster.
>> No. 37442 [Edit]
>>37436
In my case I don't think it's the decrease in speed so much as having someone block my way. I feel the same way when I'm walking in a store and people block the aisle and I'm forced to change how I walk while keeping behind these people or find another route to my destination, just because these people can't stay to one side. Be a slow driver or walker if you want, just keep to the side and let people pass. Yes it's silly to break speed limits and drive aggressively just to end up at the same stop light (this is why I think driving like that in the city is stupid) but I'd rather not have someone like that ridding my ass and potentially rear end me. I've already been hit once and it's not fun. The guy turned around and hauled ass in the opposite direction, leaving me to pay for the delectable on my car repairs.

Post edited on 25th Jan 2021, 7:25pm
>> No. 37445 [Edit]
>>37436
For me it's not necessarily "competitive driving" but just the way I've became used to driving. Basically I had a commute that was pretty conducive to driving fast and after doing that every day for a few years it made me much better and more alert on the road. Some slow drivers are just patient but a lot of them really aren't paying attention or don't know how to make their car do what they want and drive slowly to compensate.
>> No. 37452 [Edit]
I'm eating an apple I bought only a few days ago and it has the consistency of wet sand. Kind of tastes like it too. Why are apples so inferior to pears? Pears get softer, but also sweeter with age. Fuck apples.
>> No. 37453 [Edit]
The fun of fast driving is not to hit the gas pedal during a straight line. It is to just cruise through the lines and go very fast on the curves. Doing fast curves makes driving more fun, and can be done in a urban setting.
>> No. 37460 [Edit]
>>37452
Which type of apple? The most popular kinds in the US – red delicious and the green one – are tasteless garbage. If you're lucky you might find a honeycrisp. If you like sweet, maybe Fuji? I don't know where you can find any of these though.
>> No. 37461 [Edit]
>>37460
The packaging says gala. Apparently this kind has surpassed red delicious as the most produced.

If I had to eat an apple I'd want it to be hard, crisp and tart, with some kind of unique twist to it, like bitterness, sourness or having a floral taste. Maybe it's because I ate them as a kid, but raw apples all seem to have a "generic taste" to them from what I've tried.

Post edited on 27th Jan 2021, 1:06pm
>> No. 37462 [Edit]
>>37461
I'm sure there's an apple variety that fits that considering that there appear to be thousands of varieties (maybe Pink Lady? I've heard that those are tart and crisp). Interestingly even though a large number of varieties are grown in the US (~2000) I don't think these are all grown for mass-market consumption, and I don't know how you'd go about purchasing them (maybe you have to visit the apple orchard yourself? Or go to a farmer's market?)

If you like interesting content, https://story.californiasunday.com/cosmic-crisp-apple-launch may be worth a read. It's about the recently developed "Cosmic Crisp" apple which is "dramatically dark, richly flavored and explosively crisp and juicy" and has a lot of buzz surrounding it.
>> No. 37463 [Edit]
>>37452
I have never eaten wet sand. I think I know the consistency you are referring to, it is atrocious indeed. Pure trash. Try Fuji, it is better. Also apples are better, you just don't know how to buy good apples. Also keep them in the fridge for better taste.
>>37460
Any grocery store has Fuji apples, don't know about the other ones.
>> No. 37464 [Edit]
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>>37463
In what way are apples better than pears?
>> No. 37466 [Edit]
>>37452
I've never been a huge fan of the consistency of fruits in general. It's a bit like leaves wrapped around soggy potatos with way too much fiber in them. Never quite understood how humans have been eating that shit for thousands of years. Yeah yeah I know my palette is "immature". I don't have a problem with vegetables, I just don't like fruits. They also tend to be really pungent especially banana. People think I'm insane when I say this but I start suffocating from the stench when someone peels back a banana.
>> No. 37467 [Edit]
>>37466
I'm the same, vegetables are fine but I don't like fruits. Don't understand why people tend to hold fruits in such high regards. Then again I also prefer the savory to the sweet and fruits are sweet.
>> No. 37469 [Edit]
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>>37466
>the consistency of fruits in general
The texture of a banana and a plum or a raspberry or a pomegranate, has literally nothing in common. Potatoes are full of starch, while most fruits have next to none. Fruits are also basically the only natural source of a lot of sugar many people ever had access to(which you need to live). I don't think you're insane, just ignorant.
>> No. 37470 [Edit]
>>37469
>natural source of a lot of sugar
I don't think there's much a difference between "natural" sugar and table sugar though? Fruit sugar is mainly fructose+glucose (=sucrose) which table sugar also is. I think the only difference is that it's easy to overuse table sugar whereas fruits have a natural limit. And fruits also have fiber/starch/etc. so there's at least some sustenance.
>> No. 37471 [Edit]
>>37470
The difference is that people didn't always have access to table sugar.
>> No. 37473 [Edit]
>>37464
They are sweet, have the perfect amount of hardness, easier to cut, and tastes better. However there has been years since I last ate a pear. In respect to you, I will give them one more try soon.
>> No. 37475 [Edit]
>>37473
I usually eat Bartlett pears. I prefer them at their hardest, but they're also nice when they get more ripe.
>> No. 37480 [Edit]
>>37469
I know fruits are supposed to be good for you or some shit. I just can't stand them. And there is something in common. The texture is just weirdly chunky/gritty/stringy , always. I can't explain it because most people probably aren't autistic enough to care about food textures that much. But biting into a fruit gives me the same sensation that nails on a chalkboard does. Even hearing someone bite down on an apple makes me cringe.
>> No. 37597 [Edit]
After upgrading git:

>hint: Using 'master' as the name for the initial branch. This default branch name
>hint: is subject to change. To configure the initial branch name to use in all
>hint: of your new repositories, which will suppress this warning, call:
>hint:
>hint: git config --global init.defaultBranch <name>
>hint:
>hint: Names commonly chosen instead of 'master' are 'main', 'trunk' and
>hint: 'development'. The just-created branch can be renamed via this command:
>hint:
>hint: git branch -m <name>

The people who are pushing this garbage have probably never seen a black person, much less talk with one. Get me off this ride.
>> No. 37598 [Edit]
>>37597
Take it to /tat/
>> No. 37599 [Edit]
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37599
Jokes that go something like: Hey you, I want to kill you, your family and everybody remotely related to you because you're all evil. Ha ha hi hi. Just kidding.

Isn't it funny to be told for decades that you're the root of all the world's problems? Isn't that the best comedy material? There's nothing alienating about that.
>> No. 37600 [Edit]
>>37599
I think anyone who thinks that's funny would surely have some serious mental issues, and he's probably not 100% kidding. What did you do to piss this guy off?
>> No. 37601 [Edit]
>>37598
You're right, but I forgot to set a password, and now I can't delete it. I never learn.
>> No. 37602 [Edit]
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>>37600
My dad's jewish. Never was a part of that community or felt attatched to it, but it still hurts a little and wears me down when people on sites I otherwise like make me feel like a pariah and paranoid.
>> No. 37603 [Edit]
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>>37597
>git branch -m <name>
Ah yes "-m" for renaming a branch. How clear and intuitive. You can tell that the maintainers of git truly embrace the aesthetics of measured asymmetry (perhaps inspired by sprezzatura or Japanese art) by how they playfully assigned branch deletion to "-d" but opted for succinct flagless-ness when creating branches. I especially love how to list all of the branches it's just "git branch."
>> No. 37604 [Edit]
>>37602
>>37599
Look man I'm not gonna say you're evil, because you personally probably are not, but you have to realize that the whole problem of ethnically homogeneous societies being diluted largely stemmed from the the "Jewish problem", where in the 18th, 19th and 20th century, jews had no proper ethnic homeland and could be found traveling around europe like the romanians. Regardless of what you think about modern antisemitism, that was a real and well documented problem that really happened and resulted in a lot of problems. In that sense it's to be expected that people will resent your race for representing those problems. I don't think you should take it personally. But unfortunately that in addition to the behavior of modern Israel is going to make it hard for Jewish people if there ever is a war that the modern western liberal democracy does not survive. I don't know exactly what to say, I'm sorry but I also sympathize with people who are not happy with the whole Jewish problem.
>> No. 37605 [Edit]
>>37602
Sorry about that, a lot of people out there can really be assholes.
>> No. 37606 [Edit]
>>37603
Well, anon, "-m" obviously denotes the application of a "-m"oniker. The fanciful beauty of git's UI is often lost on the plebeians.
>> No. 37607 [Edit]
>>37602
Isn't Judaism passed down through the mother though? So you are not a jew. But regardless, many people think there is some kind of Jewish conspiracy to push leftist agendas but ignore the fact that many of the people pushing that are not Jews and most of the reason they do it is simply to make money, it just happens to be that many Jews are in positions of business so will make those leftist decisions to make money. The same thing happens here and we barely have any Jews in business. You could even be proud of being Jewish because of how successful many of these Jews are to get so much power for such a small community anyway.
>> No. 37608 [Edit]
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>>37607
Jewishness as a genetic thing is pretty well agreed upon. Nobody in my immediate family is religious.

I can't be proud of some other person's accomplishments. I don't feel like denying reality or hating myself either. I'd like to not care at all, but it always rears its head again eventually. If only everybody was as apathetic about it as Japanese people tend to be, Jews included. Just another gaijin is nice.

What's funny is that on stormfront/pol people talk about Jews being degenerates and pedophiles. On hentai related and /d/ like places, Jews are the ones censoring and ruining everything. Even on those boards that spam a lot and have actual, 3d pedophiles on them, Jews are the boogeymen causing anti-pedophile sentiment.
>> No. 37609 [Edit]
>>37608
I think it's as simple as a lot of people just inherently dislike Jews. Not even saying that they're right or wrong, but jews are a small, relatively weird minority that have caused a lot of problems in the past even if it was just indirectly and as a result of them having no proper ethnic homeland. It's natural for people to dislike them. I do think it's fucking retarded that people think jews are behind EVERY thing, but you can't deny that there exists a long animosity between jews and europeans. People of the same races shouldn't be living together for both races sakes. Imperialism and multi-culturalism are pretty much one and the same problem.
>> No. 37610 [Edit]
>>37609
I have pretty much no desire to live in Israel. Modern Jews are also a hodgepodge. I myself don't even neatly fit into one the categories they have.

Since when has what's "natural" for people been a part of image boards, a place originally for social outcasts?
>> No. 37611 [Edit]
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>>37608
You can always be a jew that also hates jews. Sometimes I think I'm one.
Being accused of being the evil in the world isn't that bad. Evil is cool. It means power, intelligence, will. By the social darwinism most far-righters follow, if a ridiculous minority of just a few million people can control societies or even the whole world for centuries, they truly must be the superior race.
Anyway, if you were already an outcast it's just another thing to add to the pile, right?
>> No. 37612 [Edit]
This image set:
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/87641600
>> No. 37629 [Edit]
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37629
This might come off as really autistic but torrent ratios really bother me.
It gets under my skin and nags at me when my ratio goes from 20 to 10 even though that is way more than most users get. 200 up, 20 down.
I am genuinely bothered that I lost a ~100 gb torrent that I had seeded for about 2 months, that nobody, including the staff and other users, would care is listed as snatched on my profile. It was even freeleech.
I don't understand why this stuff bothers me on such a visceral level, nobody not even the staff cares and have given my profile an "award" for seeding so long.
>> No. 37642 [Edit]
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37642
Thoughts like this and the idea that what's natural is bound to be right and good. I think what separates us humans from animals are precisely the opposite - that we have the capability to defy our own design.
>> No. 37643 [Edit]
>>37642
Cells in your body are going to be biased. Don't hold it against them.
>> No. 37644 [Edit]
>>37642
Right and good are, forgive the phrase, spooks. What is natural is technically the only RIGHT because it is the way things are driven by the forces of the universe. It's not that it is qualitatively desirable, but that there is no other choice.
>> No. 37646 [Edit]
>>37642
Well they're cells, so of course they'd think so. I never personally understood why it was so important though, and appeals to abstract things like "lineage" seemed more like they wanted to sell me on some sort of ponzi scheme.
>> No. 37647 [Edit]
>>37646
There's the mindset that having to die isn't as bad if you leave people on this earth. People who are kind of like you. It's like compensation. I don't buy into it, but I can understand it.
>> No. 37648 [Edit]
>>37647
You're right, my perspective is probably biased by the fact that I'm neutral to mildly disinclined regarding existence in general. If someone viewed existence/life as a net positive thing, then I can understand why they would strive to create more of it: out of the belief that they're doing some "good," and as a counter against their own mortality.
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>>37648
A few times, when I felt afraid of the thought of disappearing from the world, nobody remembering me and nothing being left of my existence, I contemplated artificial insemination. Even if I could do that, I probably wont since it wont really be like how I'd want it to be. Being the patriarch of a large household kind of seems appealing to me, but that kind of thing doesn't exist much anymore.
>> No. 37652 [Edit]
>>37644
>Right and good are, forgive the phrase, spooks.
I agree

>What is natural is technically the only RIGHT because it is the way things are driven by the forces of the universe. It's not that it is qualitatively desirable, but that there is no other choice.
Going further will only lead to a pointless debate but although I disagree, I will agree to disagree.
>> No. 37653 [Edit]
>>37644
Pretty sure life goes against the natural direction of the universe since it takes simple things and makes them more complex.
>> No. 37654 [Edit]
>>37653
Are you referring to entropy and how "life" seems to be a mechanism for locally lowering entropy (of course at the expense of a global increase in entropy elsewhere). In this view "life" is some sort of entropy-transfer mechanism. But there are other phenomenon in nature like this so although it's an interesting observation it's only a necessary but not sufficient characteristic of life.
>> No. 37655 [Edit]
>>37654
>there are other phenomenon in nature like this
Sure, but aren't organic compounds the most complex in the universe?
>> No. 37670 [Edit]
>>37655
Yes, thanks to carbon's ability to form many bonds with various other elements. In referring to "other phenomenon" I was speaking purely from an entropy-based viewpoint.
>> No. 37673 [Edit]
>>37642
This is tangential (well I suppose it strictly counts as an annoyance) but I'm quite pissed that the non-black Hataraku Saibou S2 has skimped on medical content. I don't expect any sort of in-depth medical infodump, but S1 at least introduced some lesser known cell-types. S2 seems to have fallen prey to the issue of just sticking with the same formula and riding on S1's coattails; the most novel thing there is the (admittedly cute) lactobacterium but gut flora are relatively common knowledge at this point. Meanwhile the black version is willing to discuss things like reaction pathways and provides fodder for things to lookup in more depth later.
>> No. 37674 [Edit]
>>37673
They did though, the lactobacterium episodes might have been dragged out too long but they also introduced langerhans cells and peyer's patch. They are certainly way too obsessed with cancer though and there were a lot of episodes that were definitely created with the pandemic in mind - viral infections, vaccinations and cytokine storms. The problem with "vanilla" is that the medium is so limited because they can't go "wild" as Black did. Black has more freedom to express many things because the "vessel" itself is also physically prone to illnesses. I might not have dropped Black if they hadn't pushed the whole adult angle so persistently and made the MC the "special one".
>> No. 37675 [Edit]
People's natural predisposition to belong to a "group" leading to everyone having the same mindless groupthink which in turn is very evident in every corner of the internet. There is no originality in thought, everyone speaks the same way and spouts similar tired nonsense everywhere and they are proud of it. Nobody looks for their own answers.
>> No. 37676 [Edit]
>>37675
A sad fact that is. I'm not entirely sure if here is any different, but I'd like to think so.
>> No. 37677 [Edit]
>>37675
>>37676
People who "look for their own answers" will almost certainly come to the same conclusion or a slight variation of it which somebody, somewhere already thought of and wrote about. It's impossible to not be influenced by other people in some way, and a person who isn't influenced, like if they were raised by animals or something, can't make much of any ideas in the first place.
>> No. 37678 [Edit]
I miss 24/7 grocery stores. You were slowly seeing less of them before COVID but after they're completely gone. Officially they did it to "sanitize their stores at night" but that isn't happening. It's because of theft and overhead. They aren't coming back, they were already getting phased out. If it was about Corona they'd want people to spread their shopping out so there was less contact.

Long, leisurely trips to the grocery store at 3am. What a joy those were.

>>37677
I've often had some "original" thought and only later discovered it was something already explored in greater detail. It makes me wonder if we came to those ideas independently or if some aspect of culture took inspiration from that idea and planted it in my head.
>> No. 37679 [Edit]
>>37677
My initial rant is not about the originality of thought being independent of outside influence but rather the lack of critical thinking from people that leads to its conclusion. People are just parroting one another and taking things at face value wholesale. And now that more and more people from every corner of the world has access to the internet the whole situation is exacerbated further. It's normal to see these comments in places like youtube and twitter but you see them nowadays in places like mangadex as well even in lesser known titles. The whole imageboard situation isn't helping either with their tendency to promote hivemind behavior.

>>37676
I'd like to as well, unfortunately small obscure imageboards are no longer that obscure and many are gradually dying.
>> No. 37680 [Edit]
>>37679
> imageboard situation isn't helping either with their tendency to promote hivemind behavior.
I think imageboards proportionately contribute very little to the situation you mentioned. 4chan is the only imageboard with enough traffic in the anglosphere to make any impact, and even then the rate of language diffusion from 4chan to external sites is anecdotally a lot lower than e.g. the rate of diffusion from reddit to others. On the other hand even if there's little external diffusion, there's plenty of internal mixing so you still end up with most threads in 4chan devolving into the same stale, predictable posts.
>> No. 37682 [Edit]
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37682
Shipping. Ever since I first saw a character pairing when I was a kid I rarely saw pairings that actually make any sense. Many of them seem to operate on the idea that "opposites attract" but that's not only an inexperienced way to look at things but a very shallow one, especially when you consider that many opposites that are forced together tend to canonically hate and even try to kill each other, at times more than once. I sometimes assume that shipping is supposed to be about figuring out how two personalities would get along and love each other and what this relationship would look like. But that doesn't feel backed up when it looks like people drool at the thought of two characters with differing hair colors and constant feuds kissing. I guess that's just a consequence of it's primary demographic (women) but I can't help but expect better. Expecting better is something someone could probably tell me is unreasonable since even official media seems to put minimal effort into it's romances, even when the work in question is focused on that romance but that's a different rant.
What makes me angriest is that it could probably be done right and it wouldn't be as hard as people might initially think. But so few people think two people who get along and have common interests is "spicy" or "cute" so they make dumb "opposites attract" bullshit while they dumb people down to being as simple as atoms with opposing polarities and not finicky creatures with tastes, hobbies, personal beliefs, worldviews, and ambitions all while pointing to evidence that doesn't stand up to scrutiny unless anybody in charge of the official media happens to think the same way.
Also I don't appreciate seeing my waifu get paired with someone.
>> No. 37683 [Edit]
>>37682
Yeah I just think shipping is fucking retarded. Romance is OK if it's done well, but it never is, so I can't care about it.
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>>37682
I feel the same way about shipping and the whole opposites attract thing. I never have interest in the romance genre although there are rare instances where it could "work". Perhaps my idea of romance is also different from what people usually seek. Personally I value platonic relationships higher than romance. I admire creators who have a clear vision of what they want to create without obfuscating it with unnecessary romance but sadly that isn't generally the case. I don't have a waifu but I can sympathize. Not directly related but not too long ago I watched an interview with a fujoshi and they mentioned how they retreated into BL to find a "safe space", I think this is probably also true to some extent for people who likes yuri. Also, it seems like the older I get, there are increasingly more things that I find off-putting and subsequently it makes it harder to find things to enjoy. On the plus side it can be as >>37544 mentioned.
>> No. 37689 [Edit]
Nobody knows what they're talking about. Shutting the fuck up is the only thing left to do. Trying to talk is a mistake. Listening is an unfortunate accident. 沈黙は金雄弁は銀お隠れは金剛。
>> No. 37691 [Edit]
The average person was already like that, it's just more noticable because of widespread use of the internet and probably more annoying because of the obnoxious behaviour they imitate.
I also disagree with the sentiment that everyone frequents the same circles, aside from facebook people tend to stick to linguistic spheres.
>> No. 37695 [Edit]
People who intertwine Japanese words or phrases into their otherwise entirely English message. It looks as ridiculous online as it does in real life.
>> No. 37697 [Edit]
>>37695
ESL people tend to throw english words into their speech willy-nilly.
>> No. 37703 [Edit]
People who obsess over politics or make a singular thing/hobby there whole entire identity.
>> No. 37712 [Edit]
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37712
"No show socks". It's just another little thing about 3d women that annoys me.
>> No. 37715 [Edit]
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>>37253
The idea of being a "game dev" or really anybody working on a long term personal project kind of annoys me. Not that they're making something, but that they choose to take the role of "person who is in the process of making a thing". Why can't people make their thing in quiet, and only talk about it once it's finished? I can't count the number of times I got excited about some project someone started only for it to be abandoned mid-way through or never released in any form.
>> No. 37716 [Edit]
>>37715
I make a point to hide and never tell anyone about my plans because I always feel like a complete moron to get people excited about something I'm doing just to have to tell them I failed and I'm an idiot. Happened a couple of times. Told my parents I had decided to learn German and gave up after 4 or 5 months but mom and dad would constantly bring it up and ask me how I was doing. Did the same thing a year later telling them I was going to learn how to draw.

Now I never tell them anything and it's a good thing, too, because since then I have given up on a lot of stuff.
>> No. 37717 [Edit]
>>37716
It's nice that you have supportive parents. Every interest of mine is point of criticism.
>> No. 37718 [Edit]
>>37717
It is. I know I'm lucky, it's one of the reasons I feel so bad about disappointing them. I'm sorry to hear you don't have supportive parents. I was going to tell you to try to ignore their shit but I know it must be pretty hard thing to do, specially if it's happening since you're a kid.
>> No. 37719 [Edit]
>>37715
I suppose it has to do with the initial excitement and euphoria, similar to how people feel the need to share every little thing on platforms like twitter. Personally I don't understand the need to express and feel embarrassed to share anything incomplete but there were times when I had to convince my parents as >>37716 did but ultimately ended up feeling like a complete idiot when I failed.

>>37718
That's nice. My parents tend to keep quiet about my interests until it has become evident that I have failed after which they would pile miseries upon me.
>> No. 37728 [Edit]
It's not in my place to scrutinize about the proper usage of the English language but I'm mildly annoyed by the frequent use of addicting in place of addictive on the internet.
>> No. 37736 [Edit]
The trend of artists making doujin "shorts", I know its to milk fanbox subscriptions but its annoying to see on exhentai.
>> No. 37793 [Edit]
The kind of people who only check their email in the morning despite convenient, desktop email clients and phone apps making it possible to check them instantly with no fuss. When you need something from them within two to three hours, you end up having to wait an entire day.
>> No. 37794 [Edit]
>>37793
I really hate how instant communication has made people feel entitled to instant responses. I check my email daily only on a good week. I just can't get into the mindset of constantly checking for new information every fucking hour. If someone wants to contact me quickly they'll have to call me, or just expect that I won't be available. I want to get rid of my cellphone for the intent purpose that I won't be "available" at all times of the day, but the modern world practically requires it.
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>>37794
People can get awfully mad if you don't answer calls even late at night. I don't even use the usual messaging shit and when people know about that they look at you like you're handicapped or have some mental problem, even randomly throw you a tantrum and tell you how you can't possibly live without it as if it was some sort of sin or sacrilege.
I hate living in this kind of world of permanent connectivity and socialization, I can't live like this from a pure mental health point of view but for most people is the only possible way to exist. It's like living in 1984 or one of those dystopic novels, I just don't understand how we have degenerated into this and everyone's happy about it. I can't imagine how harsh this could become if I ever reach old age.
>> No. 37796 [Edit]
>>37795
I feel the same. For the longest of time I didn't have (nor wanted) a smartphone until I was gifted one by my father. I still get anxious about having to receive a call and hate the "social obligation" of owning a phone. Sometimes I feel like I've slipped into a parallel timeline where I shouldn't be, like I'm sitting on a lone boat drifting in a direction different from everybody else. Oftentimes I find myself struggling to understand how the world ended up the way it did and how everyone readily accepts it. The long years I've spent as shut-in adds another layer to make me feel like a time traveler each time I try to make sense of and "connect" with reality.
>> No. 37797 [Edit]
>>37796
I relate this to the kind of feeling old people must be used to. Living in a world that's nothing like the world you were born, a world you don't understand, you don't like, taking refuge in the old things you're familiar with.
You don't know how new technology works, you don't understand what people talk, all seems ugly, tasteless, violent. You're scared, out of place, waiting to die.
But I'm only in my 30's, that's the fucked up part.
>> No. 37798 [Edit]
>>37797
Yeah, I was reluctant to admit it before but that's how I saw it too. Simultaneously, I guess that point of view might be the thing that also helps them to eventually accept death. The funny thing though is that a lot of old people nowadays are also into this whole technological connectivity as well. I'm also in my 30s.
>> No. 37815 [Edit]
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37815
Lately I've been annoyed by porn where the girl shows no agency what so ever and is strung along by male characters. For some reason it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Nice, naive girls kind of disgust me. I gravitate towards femdom type stuff a lot more now because it's better for my mood.
>> No. 37816 [Edit]
>>37815
You are overthinking and overanalyzing porn.
>> No. 37817 [Edit]
>>37816
When you can spend several hours, multiple times in day looking at porn, that tends to happen.
>> No. 37832 [Edit]
>>37815
I'm not sure if I understand you correctly but maybe that's the reason why NTR especially pisses me off so much. I also dislike nice, naive girls but I'm not exactly into femdom.
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Sukiyabashi Jiro kind of annoys me. It's a famous sushi restaurant located in a tokyo subway station. It can only accommodate 10 people at a time and doesn't even accept reservations from regular people anymore. The problem is the location. A subway restaurant is supposed to be for commuters to grab something quick to eat. It's supposed to be the opposite of ultra exclusive, and that's how Jiro's started out obviously. Now, if a random person goes in without knowing better, they get angry at you, like you're supposed to know this subway joint is off limits.

Instead of moving to a more suitable location, they've just kept occupying that subway location instead of letting an accessible restaurant take its place and make proper use of the space. To me this seems extremely selfish and I can't see how it fits into Japanese values. I wonder how Japanese people feel about this place.
>> No. 37860 [Edit]
>>37859
Well, you're wrong. I am a little annoyed. I have complete confidence that reservation only, let alone no reservations open to the public, restaurants don't belong in subways. Doesn't matter what country you're in. The food is legendary. The location isn't and shouldn't be. It's not the same as when it first opened. When it first opened, that location probably made sense. Now it doesn't. I doubt they don't have the funds for a location change either.

If I'm in a subway, don't expect me to know that a specific restaurant there is in its "traditional" location, but is off limits. You can't make that sound logical. It's a subway, hole in the wall. There's nothing sacred about it just because an old guy has been there for some decades. Maybe when he dies, they'll convert it into a shrine to him. Restaurants in subways are for commuters. That is an unalienable truth.

Post edited on 5th Mar 2021, 12:36pm
>> No. 37861 [Edit]
>>37857
That sounds pretty shitty.
>> No. 37863 [Edit]
>>37862
You're glad I can't do anything to a restaurant you will never enter and eat in because you have an emotional investment in it for some reason. You're white knighting a restaurant. That sounds like a joke to me.

Post edited on 5th Mar 2021, 1:11pm
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5ch thread about Jiro, apparently some people agree with my sentiment.
https://matsuri.5ch.net/test/read.cgi/sushi/1593964496?v=pc
>俺も和食が好きで寿司が好きだから、コロナのせいでお客さん減って困ってる寿司屋さんを助けたいけど、
エグい殿様商売で胡座をかいてきた次郎には「勝手に潰れたら?」としか言えない
>「写真撮影禁止です!(キリッ」 「あ?シュワちゃん!!どぞどぞ写真撮ってください(ニッコリ」
>どぶにカネを捨てるなよ
>あえて指摘するが、すきやばし次郎の一番カッコ悪いのは、
繁盛してた頃は俺達みたいな一見さんを見下して、常連客の紹介が無ければひたすら予約拒否してきたのに、コロナ過になった途端に、「初めてでも電話予約OKです」「誰でもいらっしゃーい」に路線変更したこと。
本当に情けない
>本当に良い店ははコロナでも客ついてるね
>近年はやたらと敷居高くして「一見さんお断り」を貫いてたから、いざ困った時でも助けてあげようとは思わないわなまだ久兵衛のほうが親しみあるからコロナで困ってるなら食べに行ってやろうか、となる
>> No. 37866 [Edit]
>>37865
Did you forget to read this part of my first post?
>I wonder how Japanese people feel about this place.
Get over yourself. If you regret posting, maybe you should stop doing so.
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>>37866
>If you regret posting, maybe you should stop doing so.
If you're going to start an argument with someone here expect them to defend themselves in it.
>> No. 37870 [Edit]
>>37864
People in that thread are also saying its the best sushi in Japan, I kinda get the exclusivity if its that respected but putting something like that in a subway station is pretty tacky.
>> No. 37879 [Edit]
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37879
The entire concept of localization. I don't know who came up with it, but they're an asshole. It's hard for me to understand the mindset of people who would go through the effort of learning a language, or like something enough to want to translate it, but also feel the need to change things about it. You would think this concept would go out of fashion and be looked back on as an embarrassing symptom of intolerance or whatever, but that hasn't happened and it's still seen as a legitimate practice. What's the "theory" behind why it's necessary to "localize' things?
>> No. 37880 [Edit]
>>37879
The theory behind it is easy enough, different countries have different sensibilities but you know that already.
I speak from experience when I tell you the translators themselves are at the bottom rung of the whole thing, you just change whatever they tell you to. Now if you're talking about people translating something as a hobby and in full control of the whole thing and still fucks up on purpose then yes, that would be very odd indeed.
>> No. 37881 [Edit]
>>37879
It seems to be getting worse too... A few weeks ago I was actually that enraged with the translation of Eiyuu Senki Gold(by Jast USA) that I contacted the translator though I could only find their twitter and discord and I don't have Twitter but I remembered I have an old Discord that I never used. The Discord Moderator asked me to list the issues, where the issues occurred, the Japanese used, the English used and what I think it should be and that he would send it to the Translator. Though I don't know if it did anything.

The Translation is incredibly localised with phrases like you do you, flex on and the customary nahs, swearing and other Americanisms(two Characters actually do swear in English but that was not the issue). All of that was bad but what really got me were the drug references, translating things like onaka ga suita to I have the munchies and what are you saying? To are you high? It's like they have absolutely no idea about Japanese society. It's also really disheartening to see how these references and this mentality are creeping into everything in the west.
>> No. 37882 [Edit]
Oh, and when I mentioned it in the discord there were a bunch of people saying things like 'you are overreacting'
'It's fine'
'I don't speak any Japanese but I think the way they translated it is accurate and fine'
and 'what you think you are better than the translators? Then why do you even play the English version? You are just trying to look good'.
>> No. 37883 [Edit]
>>37881
They don't only try to make things more inoffensive now, they also add in crude Americanisms or political commentary. You'd think they would have learned something. How they justify this ideologically, if they even think about it, is what confuses me most.

>>37880
We're supposed to not care about those things anymore in any other context though, so that makes no sense.

Post edited on 9th Mar 2021, 7:20am
>> No. 37884 [Edit]
>>37883
It's more offensive though that is the thing, Japanese itself is a fairly inoffensive language compared to English, yet they add swearing the references I mentioned and things like that to make it offensive, even many in the west would find that offensive. There is no reason to add it at all, it doesn't add anything and will just offend some people. It didn't even remove what most people in the west would actually be offended by(loli) which surprised me as they are going to release the game on Steam(though maybe they will just remove it from there).

Oh I remembered something regarding ideology, they did also replace the word Bunka with diversity and there were a few other phrases like that.
>> No. 37886 [Edit]
>>37883
I don't really see political commentary in most things I consume, but that might be because its mostly fan translations of print. You see memes and americanisms sometimes but that's mostly in hentai where its okayish to me because its sparing and the plot isnt that important usually.
I need to dig into to some of my downloads of official digital releases to see how common it is but yeah, for fan stuff if a translation is notably bad another group will pop up. Japanese pro wrestling is a weird spot, because English announcers just paraphrase the dialogue and japanese announcers so stuff is lost in translation but not on purpose.
What I dislike is that westerners must attempt to be funny and referential 24/7.
I think localisation is fine for children's media who cant fathom the cultural differences and the things changed should cause problems if imitated by the target audience or desensitize them to taboos, like a mascot making gestures that are harmless in the home country but offensive in the country being exported. But only for children. Adults know better.
>> No. 37887 [Edit]
>>37879
>theory
The theory is unrelenteless unabatable faggotry.
>> No. 37889 [Edit]
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>>37886
I was watching subbed anime since I was in middle school and I think it was actually good for me. Children's Media especially shouldn't be tampered with since being exposed to a wider variety of attitudes is good for children in my opinion. If they get too caught up in one mindset(especially a negative one), they'll have a harder time developing mental flexibility. Kids aren't as dumb as you think.

Children are usually better behaved in anime too, whereas localizations have tended to make child characters more obnoxious, loud and irreverent, along with cutting out any kind of subtlety or emotional resonance. I like these clips a lot for demonstrating how legitimately degenerate(in the real sense) children's media localization tends to be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq-qH3oh-mw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5Opw4EjzY0
>> No. 37890 [Edit]
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>>37889
I agree for older children, but I mean for like the under-10s that would be watching and playing stuff like sonic, and not even changing much. It is good for kids to be exposed to different cultures and ideas.

I just mean like the example of pic-related. It's iconic and harmless to most, but in some places it is offensive or even politically charged, I don't think changing it to a fist or thumbs-up for those specific audiences so some 7 year old doesn't imitate it and get in trouble or worse is as bad as the videos you've linked. I agree most of it is bad and has gotten out of hand but this is what localization is actually meant to be
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>>37879
While there are countless examples of needless detrimental edits in localized works, sometimes localization is necessary. For example, some puzzles in video games that rely on linguistic or cultural knowledge need to be changed for them to be solvable by players outside the original target audience. Pic related, it roughly translates to: "Among the seven kanji in the picture, there is only one that does not belong. Which one is it?" Things like wordplay and foreign pop cultural references may need to be heavily changed too in order for them to make sense.
>> No. 37900 [Edit]
>>37898

>> No. 37902 [Edit]
>>37898
Localization is good and is often necessary for a work to make sense in another language. It's a careful procedure where you take subtleties from one language and attempt to work them into another.
Sadly, the term is now synonymous with "censorship" due to the work of some particularly awful translators, editors, and businessmen. Ironically, localization is often used as an excuse on things that aren't even localized properly.

Proper localization shows such a deep respect for the meaning of the work that the translator is capable of near perfectly translating the emotional meaning behind the author's words. The retarded script changes that get justified with "localization" are practically the exact opposite, sometimes those changes show such contempt for the work itself that it's almost amazing whatever hack wrote it chose to be an editor or translator in an industry they seem to despise so much.
Or maybe it's just the case that some retarded suit said that something would be a little too harsh for people he can't see as anything other than retarded goblins, so he demanded the script be changed or else it wouldn't air. The latter tends to apply more to children's shows, the former tends to apply to adult shows. Some cases of censorship are so utterly baffling to me that I'm honestly amazed they get made, like censoring sexual content in a game made for people who decisively aren't children.
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>>37902
Unless a game mechanic working depends on certain things being changed, I prefer as literal of an approach as possible. Even if certain cultural references get lost on the audience, that's okay. They can look it up, or translation notes can be included. Translation is not the same as localization. Translation is transferring meaning from one language to another. Localization means changing the meaning.
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>>37903
Not him, and I don't mean any offense, but if you feel that way it probably is worth the time to just learn the language.
>> No. 37905 [Edit]
>>37904
I know. I'm in pain.
>> No. 37906 [Edit]
>>37902
Localizers tricked people into thinking things that make up good translations are "localization" so that they could more easily get away with changing or editing shit ofr no reason.
>> No. 37907 [Edit]
Mobile games and mobile gaming. What a curse that's been on the world. Who wants to play games on their phone? I don't get it. Just use a laptop or desktop computer. The screen is bigger. Why on earth would somebody want to play a game on a device with no keyboard, no mouse, and a tiny screen?
>> No. 37908 [Edit]
>>37907
Handheld game consoles filled that particular niche for decades. There is a significant consumer market for portable video games whether it's by choice or necessity. It isn't something new and calling it a curse just because you can use the platform for other purposes is beyond melodramatic.
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>>37900
What's the reasoning for that? Is it some pattern in the radicals or stroke order?
>>37879
When done right, localization should be subtle and unnoticeable. The issue is that doing it right requires a lot of skill, and the monkeys who companies subcontract to for peanuts certainly don't have that. If you're interested in learning more, Routledge Course in Japanese Translation is a good read (I've only admittedly skimmed it, but if you're into linguistics or theory it's nice).

Post edited on 9th Mar 2021, 7:09pm
>> No. 37910 [Edit]
>>37903
Localization is more subtle than just "sushi into burgers"-type "localizations". You can see a lot of good localization in literary translations, and among any translation that you really feel is "good" there's at least some level of localization involved. What sort of translation will come out ultimately depends on what you're translating, but in general localization is a subtle manipulation of the author's writing so that it will get across the same way to one reader in a language as it does to a reader in another.
Translation without localization is like trying to play a song made for one instrument on a totally different one. Don't let terrible translation like the pic in
>>37909
make you think localization is a bad thing. I don't even think I'd call that garbage 'translation'. It is doing quite literally the exact opposite of what a proper localization should do, and any real translator looking at that would probably die from 2nd hand embarassment.
Proper localization happens on a level you might not even realize if you can't read the original language, and it doesn't really take a genius to do either. It's just that awful, heartless, uninspired translators/editors stuck in what they believe to be dead-end jobs stop giving a fuck about what they're doing and take out their anger on the hard work of others. Or at least, I think this is the case. That's the only reason I could imagine why people would insert retarded shit about 'gamergate' and feminsim into shows.
>> No. 37911 [Edit]
>>37908
Handheld gaming is obsolete in my opinion. I would never play a game like that now unlike when I was kid. Those consoles also had nice-feeling controls like a d-pad and other buttons, which provided a level of standardization and comfort absent in mobile games. Mobile Game culture is the even bigger issue. Free to play, corporate-approved(to get in the app store) gacha shit lacks both the quality of hand-held console libraries, and freedom from creative restriction of pc-games, so in every way it's the worst of both worlds.

Post edited on 9th Mar 2021, 7:37pm
>> No. 37912 [Edit]
>>37907
Playing mobile games on a tablet is fine, it can be quite comfy playing from a table in bed even. But the most don't do that. It's part of the attention economy we now have, PC, Laptops or even tablets struggle to fit into that and many people seem not to have or use them, but almost everybody has a phone and it is on them all the time. It's how it works now, I see this frequently with my relatives, they will sit in from of the TV 'watching' a movie but actually they are on their phone on social media or some mobile game.

>>37908
It's a separate niche. Handheld game consoles(which we still have, the Switch is quite popular) are portable consoles. You buy a game, put it in and play it. For a long game you may get 24-48 hours from it but it is a full experience and once done it is done, sure you may come back to it or some DLC may come out but overall it is a game like any other, it is just portable and does not require a TV. Mobile games are part of the attention economy, you cannot play a mobile game for a day, finish it and then move on. You play it bit by bit, a few hours or even minutes at a time over years as progress is slow and the game is long and they add more to it all the time. And because it is on a mobile the effort it takes to open and play it is minimal, you can open it and close it throughout the day from wherever you are to play it bit by bit and that could go on for years, this game can have your attention for years.
>> No. 37913 [Edit]
>>37909
It's the only one you can't write with katakana characters.
>> No. 37932 [Edit]
I rue the fact that a lot of decent IPs are in the hands of undeserving large publishers and is the inevitable outcome for a lot of future IPs as well. The death of old eroge companies like Elf and C's Ware still leaves a feeling of regret. The conversation about VNs as a term in the other thread makes me realize that the death of older (PC-98) adventure game companies are probably catalyzed by the rapid rise of VNs and eventually supplanted by it. I'm not angry about this as it is an inevitability but rather I find it unfortunate. On the bright side, eroge doujin circles started to really gain a foothold at the same time that all of this was happening. As for the more general video game industry I can only hope that older IPs be gracefully laid to rest than to be dug up from its graves and be turned into an abomination.
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Now that I think about it, large laptops, the kind too big to fit in a backpack, let alone carry anywhere, are kind of stupid and pointless. Literally the only real advantage is that they have more space and are semi-portable, so you can move them in your house more easily than a desktop.

Buying one for the bigger screen makes no sense since you can get an even bigger monitor. Even buying them because they have more space makes no sense with the advent of external hard-drives. Its power or whatever else it gets from being larger isn't as good as a desktop computer's. They can't be called cheap either. Really they're the most middle-of-the road and useless.
>> No. 37937 [Edit]
>>37936
Are you referring to those obnoxiously thick gaming laptops? I don't see who would use those considering their cooling isn't enough for actual gaming. At least for me 15" at 16:10 aspect ratio is the sweet spot: plenty for serious work while sitll being portable.

What really annoys me are those laptops that have a built in number pad. Not only is this completely useless for most people, it causes the trackpad to be off center, negating the usability of the portable form factor.
>> No. 37938 [Edit]
>>37937
No, I meant any laptop that's really heavy in general. They tend to have number pads like you mentioned and built in disc drives.
>> No. 37939 [Edit]
>>37936
She's using a Surface. I bought one, now those are "stupid and pointless.". It's stuck on windows 8 and wont let me install or update anything. For the life of me I can't even get into the bios on it to try and install a new OS.
>> No. 37940 [Edit]
>>37939
I see a lot of surfaces in anime. Are they especially popular in Japan or something? Also which surface was it. One of the surfaces (surface rt or something) runs basically windows-lite (a special version for arm devices that micorosft will probably never update)
>> No. 37941 [Edit]
>>37940
It can be good for drawing on, it's also super light weight too. I can see why they'd be popular. You just have to avoid the RT versions like a plague. you can't so much as install firefox on the damn thing.
>> No. 37942 [Edit]
>>37936
Easy for you to say when you can just take thin and light stuff like the ipad for granted. Back in the day having a decent machine meant you actually had to be able to lift it up without snapping your twiggy wrists like some pathetic mobile user.
>> No. 37943 [Edit]
>>37942
Desktops existed first and performed better than behemoth laptops. The first lightweight "netbook" came out in 1996, so by 2006 making a smaller, but less featured laptop(no disc drive) was certainly possible.
>> No. 37944 [Edit]
>>37942
Go back further and everyone just used dumb terminals to a mainframe. And that's probably the direction we're heading now anyway
>> No. 37945 [Edit]
>>37943
No one wanted it because making the simplistic mobile shit people readily accept now just wasn't even considered, the idea of a machine with no disc drive was ridiculous. It's not like laptops are that heavy either, I've never actually seen someone complain about if before outside tablet advertisements. I guess people don't bring briefcases with them either though so the habit of carrying something slightly uncomfortable around just isn't there.
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>>37945
My thinkpad t470 has a larger screen than a phone, keyboard, and two usb drives in addition to other ports. It's also light enough to fit in a backpack and walk around in all day without hurting my back like a Dell Inspiron 1420 would. Not everybody has a car. Some people have to stand during their commute the entire time and have other shit to carry besides their laptop.

Even if lighter-weight laptops were significantly bereft of features, having a light word processor with internet connectivity is useful in itself. Mobile phones don't even come close to meeting that requirement. No mouse, tiny screen, no keyboard. If I need a disc drive, I can get a usb connected one. Hell, I could get a usb connected floppy drive. Better than stuffing them inside the laptop itself.
>> No. 37948 [Edit]
I'm just going to say it, people who play music or videos in public without headphones/earbuds should have their skulls caved in. Your music isn't good, it isn't funny, you aren't cool or a "chad" or whatever you might think you are for being the worst possible member of society. You are an enemy of autists and tired people everywhere and you need to be put down.
>> No. 37949 [Edit]
>>37948
I agree, I hate those people. Couple weeks ago I was in a place that had a few and got fed up. I said "headphones aren't expensive you know." and was ignored.
They're cunts, they're either self absorbed and don't care if they're being a bother to people let alone fathom the idea, or they're convinced they're cool for doing it as if they have their own theme music that should play to announce their presence to the world. The former is more obnoxious while the later is more pathetic. I'm not sure which is worse.
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Any time anyone ever says "these times" in reference to 2020 and all it brought into 2021. It's like they wanted to express how bad it all was but they don't have the guts or the vocabulary to put it into words so they just say "these times". Of course, it's annoying when they add more words to the description to complain about how terrible it all is. Though maybe I should be happy, I wanted normals to suffer as much as possible after all.
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Today I found my old ds lite after losing it ten years ago. I like the physical make of it and the clam-shell design, but otherwise I'm amazed such a shitty piece of crippleware got so popular. You can't so much as connect it to your computer. There's no sd card slot. The ds has wifi capabilities, but you can't access wifi-settings except for in-game ones. Even the ui is kind of bad with the individual options in system settings not being labelled and only represented by pixelated icons. The psp(which I never owned) came out two years prior to the ds lite and had all of the above features, plus a built in internet browser, while the ds only had some clunky cartridge to fill that role. The ds being cheaper, and I guess pokemon, is the only explanation for its massive popularity.
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>>37953
>There's no sd card slot.
>The psp(which I never owned) came out two years prior to the ds lite and had all of the above features
None of the PSP models support SD cards, either. They use Memory Sticks.
>The ds being cheaper, and I guess pokemon, is the only explanation for its massive popularity.
It also has a larger official native software library (with a significant portion of the titles aimed at casuals who weren't already into video games) and probably a larger official software library as a whole (not sure how many PS1 games were officially rereleased), due in part to its backward compatibility with most GBA cartridges (though it didn't allow multiplayer). The dual screens, the bottom one a touchscreen, also led to the development of unique games that wouldn't have worked as well on the PSP, such as Subarashiki Kono Sekai / The World Ends with You or Osu! Tatakae! Ouendan / Elite Beat Agents.
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>>37953
Not at all. The PSP's multi-feature suite is certainly useful and convenient, but they are, first and foremost, game consoles. The important thing for the DS was the games. The touch screen opened a lot of new possibilities in that regard. It also helps that since they were widely different consoles, there was an actual reason to get both as there was little library overlap. I really do miss handheld games, there's something to them that PC gaming can't replace as easily as it does for console games.
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>>37954
>They use Memory Sticks.
Oh. That's not as good, but still better at interfacing with other devices.

I don't know how many sales those game you mentioned pulled in, so I can't comment on that. I would guess the majority of best selling games could have done without the touchscreen aspect though.

>>37955
>they are, first and foremost, game consoles
I would argue they are first and foremost personal computers. Computers should also be judged by their ability to interface with other computers. The ds is both severely lacking in this area and seemingly is so by design. Even graphing calculators of the time could be connected to a computer and had accessible, internal storage(ti connect was released in 2001). I take certain features for granted. I got a ds for my birthday as a kid, but I wouldn't buy one for myself knowing what I do now.
>> No. 37960 [Edit]
>>37956
This is a bizarre standard to hold a handheld game console to.
>I would guess the majority of best selling games could have done without the touchscreen aspect though
Perhaps, but many of the most interesting games on the console could not have been, or would have been worse for it. Personal favourites of mine would be Sekaijuu no Meikyuu (Etrian Odyssey), which used it for a highly interactive mapping mechanic, or Hotel Dusk which is played by holding the DS sideways like a book and using both screens.
>> No. 37961 [Edit]
>>37960
>This is a bizarre standard to hold a handheld game console to.
It not being a common standard is what's bizarre to me. A commercial computer is a commercial computer. Just goes to show people can get used to anything.
>> No. 37963 [Edit]
>>37961
What do you mean "used to anything"? That's a more common feature now than it used to be, the following console generations all have those features you wanted.
>> No. 37964 [Edit]
>>37963
You said my standard was bizarre, but that's because consoles being incredibly limited and closed off to the user has been normalized by the gaming industry. I don't own a 3ds, so I can't speak to its functionality from experience, but from what I could find, there's still no way of directly connecting it to your pc. The 3DS does support sd cards(while the newer 3DS xl only supports micro sd cards). The microsd slot on the 3DS xl can only be accessed by unscrewing its cover too.

Either way, what's out now isn't relevant to my criticisms of the DS.
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>>37964
>there's still no way of directly connecting it to your pc.
Why does that matter? Has any console, ever, had this feature?
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>>37965
>Has any console, ever, had this feature?
I already mentioned the PSP. PS vita also has that feature. Xbox has some ridiculous thing with windows. Even if it was completely unheard of, see
>Even graphing calculators of the time could be connected to a computer
>consoles being incredibly limited and closed off to the user has been normalized by the gaming industry

The point is being able to conveniently move files to and from the device like game screenshots and save files. Even better if you can remove from, add whatever you feel like to, and otherwise manipulate the device's internal storage.

Post edited on 24th Mar 2021, 6:29pm
>> No. 37967 [Edit]
>>37965
If you homebrew, most of them do.
>> No. 37968 [Edit]
>>37966
The PS3 also had a feature on it too which allowed you to share media over your local connection.
https://manuals.playstation.net/document/en/ps3/current/settings/connectdlna.html
>> No. 37969 [Edit]
>>37966
The DS doesn't even have save files on it. They're stored on the cartridge.
>> No. 37970 [Edit]
>>37969
I know. That's another deficiency. But still, games could have had in-game options for save file transferring like they did for wifi support if connecting to a pc was possible.

Post edited on 25th Mar 2021, 10:33am
>> No. 37971 [Edit]
>>37970
>if connecting to a pc was possible
In consoles with memory cards you could copy files to and from cards using just the console, without needing a PC. You know, Gamecube. Playstation 1/2. Dreamcast.
>> No. 37972 [Edit]
When I first got a psp, I ran into some problems due to not having a PC of my own at the time. It was real easy to download files with the built in web browser while being unable to access those same files on the psp UI. If you downloaded a video in the wrong file type or to the wrong directory, it would simply sit there on the memory card taking up valuable space which was very limited on early cards.
>> No. 37978 [Edit]
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It's kind of annoying how limited and boxed in the "demonic aesthetic" is. It feels like it's been co-opted by a handful of boring cultural associations. There's even people who seriously consider themselves to be satanists(larpers), but they also go for the same boring look you see on metal albums all the time. No expansion or creativity comes from those people.

Why do demons have to be ugly, red and covered in fire? The whole point of demons is that they're deceptively beautiful, so why does hardly anybody depict them as such? Where are all the beautiful demons? Only Japanese people seem to break this mold a little.

Post edited on 25th Mar 2021, 10:14pm
>> No. 37979 [Edit]
>>37978
I don't know about demons, but satin at least is often depicted as a handsome man(sometimes women) in western media.
>> No. 37984 [Edit]
>>37979
There's tons of movies depicting demons as sexy temptresses, that anon is just unware of the trope. Vampirella comes to mind, too, though I think not many people still remember that character. Seems like she never managed to transition well to newer audience for some reason.
>> No. 37988 [Edit]
Shitbox aka Firefox new update blocks the backspace to return functionality.
I changed it back through about:config now.
>> No. 37989 [Edit]
FFT is one of my favorite games of all time and it's so sad to see the people involved in it wasting their talents working on undeserving projects. I've just read that Hitoshi Sakimoto and Akihiko Yoshida are working with a Canadian based developer on an RPG. The announcement trailer looked rather poor to me, it feels like a bootleg version of a Vanillaware game and I can hardly believe that the art were from Akihiko Yoshida. Yasumi Matsuno himself has been working with a western dev for a long time on a crowdfunded project which does not look promising either.
>> No. 37990 [Edit]
>>37989
That explains why it didn't look very nice. Japanese companies should never work with westerners.
>> No. 37991 [Edit]
>>37990
Made in Abyss's soundtrack was composed by an Australian, so that's a bit unfair. Plus this is Japanese people working with western companies, not the other way around.
>> No. 37993 [Edit]
>>37991
Wouldn't Australia's be southerners?
>> No. 37999 [Edit]
This would be more appropriate for the thread with over used words, but that's locked now.
For the longest time I've found it annoying how overused the term "terrorist" is in American media. It gets used as a catch all term for antagonists, even when they have absolutely no political agenda at all. Often times characters are very clearly anarchists, but it seems like American media doesn't like to use that term, not in a negative light at least. I can only assume this is because our culture has shifted into a direction that views anarchy as "cool", along with various other terms and descriptions with formerly negative connotations. Regardless of the reasoning, if a character is an anarchist they should just call him such and stop overusing and misusing the phase terrorist.
>> No. 38040 [Edit]
How is it still cold? When's spring?
>> No. 38057 [Edit]
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>>37999
You're funny, Anonymous. In the same breath you decry the meaningless use of "terrorist" you insist on ignoring the definition of "anarchist"! BAKA~
>> No. 38059 [Edit]
>>38057
Yup you're right, I'm a baka. I misunderstood the definition of anarchist, I was going off what popular media suggest what it is rather than what it really is. My mistake. Guess you could say I fell victim to the same sort of thing I was criticizing. All the more reason for the media to stop spreading misinformation.
>> No. 38070 [Edit]
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A PSA on not being retarded:
Day 0: a kitten was constantly and desperately meowing the entire day, I heard it roaming in the street outside my house, I ignored it since I've already got a cat and it would make her miserable if I adopted more.
Day 1: kitten starts meowing again, I hear it from 13:00 to around 19:00, almost constant and really desperate. I decide to go look for it to see if I can at least feed it, amazed that no one else has done anything about it. I find it on top of an outside wall of a house, meowing at me, I'm thinking it got stuck there and the house must be empty.
So I hold a platform for it to go down, it does. It starts following me around, I give it food and water, it keeps following me around into my house, my cat reacts badly, so I took it to the park and left it there, hoping I at least left it in a better situation than it was before.
Of course it's after all of this that my mom points out that he might really be from that house with the wall and the owners just left him alone for a few days. So instead of mildly helping out a stray as I thought I might have just snatched a cat and then gotten rid of it, which is beyond awful and I'm feeling retarded and guilty.
Lesson: Don't ever do anything if you are stupid and autistic. I still think it was a stray since it was so desperate and kinda dirty, but the possibility of wrongdoing isn't worth it.
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>>38070
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. Try not to lose any sleep over it.
>> No. 38072 [Edit]
>>38071
>Try not to lose any sleep over it.
Too late!
>> No. 38073 [Edit]
>>38070
>and the owners just left him alone for a few days
Wouldn't an outdoor cat need a collar or chip? Apriori it seems to me more likely to be a stray or a negligent owner.
>> No. 38074 [Edit]
>>38073
Yeah, but I'm in the third world.
>> No. 38075 [Edit]
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I hate sour coffee. I've tried supposedly premium coffee brands that taste sour and I could barely drink them. Do people actually like that? Do they consider that high quality? When I drink something, I don't the image of cat piss to come to mind.
>> No. 38077 [Edit]
>>38070
Cats can have an amazing sense of orientation, so there's chances he could return if he pertained there. My parents had to get rid of an incredibly fit cat that has installed in our land and bullied our cats, so they took him to the nearest city, 20km away. Some days later he returned, so they have to take him to a more distant city, at 50km. This time it took him a few weeks. They had to make a trip of hundreds of km and leave him in another region to finally get rid of him.
>> No. 38078 [Edit]
>>38070
You did good. Cats find their way back home if it comes to it. +if they look stray they usually are.
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>>38075
Coffee has flavors such that they are best described with a flavor-wheel. You just figured that you don't like your coffee sour (ie. fruity)
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>>38080
However every coffee may still have a hint of that because it is from a berry. So focus on the flavors you like and get the coffee according to your taste.
>> No. 38083 [Edit]
>>38081
>get the coffee according to your taste
Any idea how I'd do that?
>> No. 38085 [Edit]
>>38075
I'm not an expert in the subject but coffee plants comes in two varieties, arabica and robusta. Arabica variants are more expensive and prized for its supposed depth of flavors but it is generally more sourish and lacks the body and bitterness of robusta varieties. That's why most coffees in the market tend to be blends rather than single origins.
>> No. 38090 [Edit]
>>38078
Thanks. After more investigation, yeah it didn't belong to that house.
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I wish 20+ episode anime were still made often...
>> No. 38096 [Edit]
>>38081
It's honestly impressive how many words they had to think of to describe coffee, and all of them unpleasant.

>>38085
Coffee plants comes in two varieties: awful and horrible. Arabica variants are prized for being excruciating while robusta varieties are commonly described as harrowing.
Coffee tasting is a form of ritualized cerebral masochism, it is not a pleasure; it is a struggle of wills between men and against the terrible strain of coffee's taste. The competition for domination continues until the last man standing, that is the last man able to pretend they enjoy coffee.
The losers go home with acrid miasma lingering in their coffee-puckered mouths.
The winner gets to enjoy a nice cup of tea.
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>>38096
Have you ever heard of cream?
>> No. 38100 [Edit]
>>38097
Completely unrelated to the point at hand, but I remember when I was small I used to just guzzle those small prepacked cups of coffee creamer available at hotels/restaurants; they were delicious (of course considering that it's just sugar and vegetable oil, how could it not be!)
>> No. 38110 [Edit]
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It's kind of annoying software documentation isn't more standardized and is as a whole incredibly primitive and rudimentary. In my opinion, software documentation for user applications(user-facing applications that aren't development tools), should work like a reference, not a manual. Every part of it should be self-contained and assume as little prior-knowledge from the user as possible.

I've never seen software documentation with a glossary. If documentations was more standardized, users would even be able to lookup more general terms in separate softwares' documentation; so they'd be able to look up what CPU or RAM is without the internet(or the clipboard could connect it all to some dictionary of terms).

Error messages should always be human understandable and include suggestions on what may be causing the problem and what could fix it. And all of this information should come with the software and not require an internet connection to get.

The amount of time a user has to spend looking up how to do/fix something on the internet should be minimized as much as possible. They should be able to easily find out how to do whatever it is they want to do in offline documentation. Right now, people have to look things up on the internet, see if there's any solutions, see if questions that are tangentially related have applicable solutions to their needs, and if all that fails, ask on a forum and wait for somebody coherent to respond. That's not the way it should be.

Post edited on 27th Apr 2021, 2:43pm
>> No. 38111 [Edit]
>>38110
The issue with writing error messages is that it's in general hard to write them in a way where the user can act upon them. Consider for instance a guard-clause that makes sure some pointer is non-null. In the happy path, things are great but what happens when the check fails and you have to log a message? Either you just terminate the program – which leaves the user unhappy – or you try to gracefully recover by just ignoring whatever event triggered the action, in which case you have to notify the user or log something. But you don't know apriori what specifically caused the nullptr; all you know is that you have one (since if you could have known that nullptrs were being returned from somewhere, then you wouldn't have coded that bug in the first place).

But yes software has gotten a bit worse over the years with regard to this: in the name of "user-friendliness" instead of displaying the actual assertion that failed (and leaving it to the user to decide if this is something he can act upon), things just display a generic "Whoops... failure occurred" message.

The other part of your comment about documentation is completely valid though; most devs just stopped bothering with it and leave it to the user to "explore" their app and try to figure out things. Interestingly, OSX actually does have a proper documentation service that 3rd-party developers used to make use of. You can see a legacy of it in modern Cocoa apps that still have the "Help" menu. People used to include thoughtful guides, both for novice and power users. But now people just shove a link to a webpage in there at best, or just leave it completely empty. Even Apple's 1st party apps have been skimping on documentation.
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>>38111
>things are great but what happens when the check fails and you have to log a message?
I'm a novice, but assuming a function was expecting that pointer and had logically named inputs, and you know why a null pointer could be received sometimes, you could print

"A function 'x' failed because its input 'input' received no value from 'whatever sent 'input''
This may have been because of 'reason1', 'reason2' or 'reason3'.
It's also possible this was the result of a bug.
Would you like a copy of the error log?
Would you like to see 'x''s documentation?"

Nice, friendly, and understandable. I'm a novice though, so for all I know, doing it like this is impossible in some situations. Otherwise, writing documentation sounds like the easiest part and may even be helpful to the developers. The docs are basically a compiled revision of the program design and comments. If they care enough to spend the effort writing software, and they want other people to use said software, why wouldn't they care enough to expound on their own design for the benefit of others?

Post edited on 27th Apr 2021, 4:54pm
>> No. 38113 [Edit]
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>>38112
>you know why a null pointer could be received sometimes
>This may have been because of 'reason1', 'reason2' or 'reason3'.
That's the rub; you often won't know why a null pointer was received because in general you aren't expecting one. The guard-clause is there just as a failsafe. And if that failsafe trips, it's a completely unepxected thing (hence why it's a bug).

>"A function 'x' failed because its input 'input' received no value from 'whatever sent 'input''
I mean you could do this sure, but it's probably going to be _more_ confusing to the complete novices who don't even know what a "function" is.

To be clear, I completely agree that all errors should be logged and that detailed information should be made available for those who want to explore further. In fact, I'd be overjoyed if every single program also came with debugging symbols so I could just patch their shitty programs myself. But I disagree that presenting this information directly to the end-user upon any error makes much sense.

An example of good error-handling is kernel panics – on OSX, a kernel panic gives you a grey screen of death with a message saying that your computer encountered an error and needs to restart. To the end user who doesn't know anything about OS internals, this is as good a message as you can tell them. For those who actually care what happened, detailed info is also logged in the console. This satisfies both groups of users.

As a sidenote, because detailed error messages can sometimes leak implementation details, companies who are really protective of their secret sauce choose to have vague error messages as a form of protection. For instance, if you pass a malformed url to some google services you'll just get back a generic error message; they're not going to give you the entire stack trace since that would leak internal information (of course, their engineers _will_ have access to such information).

>writing documentation sounds like the easiest part and may even be helpful to the developers
Yeah I agree that good documentation is a boon to software projects. Unfortunately it's also the most boring part to work on, and documentation can quickly go stale if it isn't actively maintained. Writing good documentation is also tricky since as the project maintainer you're familiar with things so everything seems "obvious."
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>>38113
> you often won't know
>To the end user who doesn't know anything about OS internals, this is as good a message as you can tell them.
That makes sense. For something straight forward like a missing dependency though, I feel like a better job of being clear could be done. Instead of:
"the expected 'somethingsomething' is missing, error: '32432342345325'"
It could be:
"program 'x' could not find a required dependency: 'somethingsomething' 'version 9.3' in the expected location 'path'. The required dependency is either no longer there, or was never added'

Since the user may not know what a dependency or function is, it would be nice if they could highlight any word and the context menu would have a "look-up in dictionary" option for them to use. I guess being forced to rely on the internet for everything is also grating.
>> No. 38115 [Edit]
>>38114
>For something straight forward like a missing dependency though
By dependency do you mean missing shared library (DLL on windows)? Yeah those messages could be better, but I'm not sure I ever saw a numeric error code for these sorts of things. Windows's error messages is "The program can't start because foo.dll is missing from your computer. Try reinstalling the program to fix this problem." which is ok-ish but could probably be improved by adding the word "dependency" in there somewhere. (expected version number and dylib path would also be good info to log for more advanced users).

> it would be nice if they could highlight any word and the context menu would have a "look-up in dictionary" option for them to use
OSX has this (on any app that uses Cocoa widgets). I'm not sure if windows added this, but I'd expect not since I recall that right-click dialogs were generated by the application itself. And doing something standardized like that on any linxu distro is probably going to be impossible unless you convince both Qt and GTK to adopt it.
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>>38115
>right-click dialogs were generated by the application itself
I assumed there was some sort of centralization since the context menu looks the same everywhere(style-wise). Guess not. Instead of a context menu then, a mouse/keyboard shortcut could be used instead, like superkey + d or right-click + d.

Post edited on 27th Apr 2021, 7:15pm
>> No. 38117 [Edit]
>>38116
Hm you might be right; I don't have much experience with Windows and even less with windows internals. Someone can probably correct me here, but I guess most applications do call into win32 api – so the context menu is indeed ultimately handled by APIs the OS provides. I wonder why MS hasn't added a similar lookup feature then; probably because it might be a breaking change? There's also the newer metro (winRT?) window toolkit and associated APIs – I don't know if these are just a better wrapper around the old winAPIs or whether they're actually a separate thing entirely.

>mouse/keyboard shortcut could be used instead, like superkey + d or right-click + d
There should already be third party apps that can provide this feature. If not, it'd be easy to write one!
>> No. 38118 [Edit]
>>38117
>There should already be third party apps that can provide this feature.
I looked and found Artha, which pretty much does what I described(using hotkeys). You can't add new words/dictionaries though. Goldendict lets you do that, but requires you to put words in your clipboard to look them up, which sucks. I'd personally consider this a feature worth being built-into a desktop.

Edit: Artha also puts selected text into your clipboard, just not as overtly. Maybe~~ this is necessary, but it's annoying.

Post edited on 27th Apr 2021, 9:32pm
>> No. 38119 [Edit]
>>38118
>also puts selected text into your clipboard
I assume it's implemented by first copying selected text to the clipboard on the hotkey press so that the dictionary app has access to it. This would be the easiest way to go about implementing it, but it's not very elegant (but at the very least they could restore the clipboard afterwards). There's surely got to be some native API for getting text under the cursor considering that this is crucial for assistive devices (e.g. screen readers for the blind).

Some quick searching shows that UI Automation [1] is apparently the recommended way to do this for "modern" windows apps, but this requires the application to actually implement the relevant callbacks. I think in order to oroperly support all the possible types of windows apps you have to support all the various hodgepoge of assistive technologies that microsoft has used ("UI Automation, Microsoft Active Accessibility, and IAccessible2"), which I presume is how screen readers like JAWS/NVDA [2] are able to do this. What a mess!

[1] https://stackoverflow.com/questions/4665045/how-to-get-the-word-under-the-cursor-in-windows
[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NonVisual_Desktop_Access
>> No. 38120 [Edit]
>>38110
I think one of the biggest problems with documentation is that barring large corporations who can invest at least some effort in documentation, most dev teams don't have that same luxury because what documentation there is often has to be written by them, which is time they can't exactly afford to waste. Similarly, the scope of a lot projects is such that documentation is either impractical, or not worth it if you pre-suppose the end user is competent. That said, a lot of projects work with the assumption that they will be depreciated in a short amount of time, making any considerable efforts at documentation essentially a waste effort.

But... Like you I'm a novice so perhaps my conjecturing is wrong as well.
>> No. 38121 [Edit]
>>38120
>perhaps my conjecturing is wrong as well
No, I asked somebody who's a professional developer for a non-IT company, and that's basically what he said. Whatever they write is assumed to be quickly deprecated. Another part is, not writing documentation can actually protect a person's job a little since that makes the programmer who wrote undocumented code more necessary to keep around.

For open source projects, I don't think any of these reasons are applicable though.
>> No. 38122 [Edit]
>>38121
With most larger companies, new projects will usually require a design doc which is then reviewed by the team. So at the very least there's some sort of initial documentation of the high-level ideas. (And people are usually very good about this because having a design doc is evidence that you will often need to submit for promotion). Of course as times goes on and more features get bolted on (or things get refactored/rewritten) the original design doc goes out of date, and there's no real incentive for anyone to update the doc because there's no reward for it. And then people leave, and some of the implicit knowledge gets permanently lost.

Some of this can be mitigated by requiring all non-trivial commits to be associated with a bug where the motivation for the PR is described. Or equivalently, requiring people to have good commit messages. Coupled with git blame, this can at least help document "why" some workaround was added, although it still doesn't help convey the high-level design if that goes out of date from the initial design-doc.
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I dislike it when anime encodes leave out the end card. Or the next episode preview. Or when the OP and ED for all the episodes are replaced with their creditless versions and the credits aren't included in the release at all.
Incidentally, it seems as though this end card was never actually used for the Hidamari or SZS anime, but is a colored-in version of an end card for a Hidamari Radio event held on March 30 at Tokyo International Anime Fair 2008.
>> No. 38124 [Edit]
I'm as sure as you can get about anything that there is an afterlife. Yet reading about the topic there's a sea of not much to find; the religious just stick to their dogma, the new agers and book sellers seem to seek comfort(and money) more than the truth, philosophers don't dwell on it too much, scientists don't really touch the subject, NDErs are interesting but I'm fairly suspicious that a lot of them are fake or exaggerated.
Afterlife may even be a misnomer, there's probably a layer of existence and consciousness that is happening right now that will persist after the physical body dies.That's just continued existence and not dependent on happening "after" anything.
This to me should be the most urgent subject of research we could possibly have, and yet my mind dedicates more energy to garbage like "omg new madoka movie" than the introspection needed to find out more about this layer of existence, even though I attempt the latter way more. It's frustrating.
>> No. 38125 [Edit]
>>38124
>'m as sure as you can get about anything that there is an afterlife.
Why?
>> No. 38126 [Edit]
>>38125
Mixture of personal intuition and reasoning that the act of stuff appearing in consciousness does not belong to this specific human creature.
>> No. 38127 [Edit]
>>38126
>the act of stuff appearing in consciousness does not belong to this specific human creature
Stuff doesn't appear in consciousness from nowhere. Everything a person thinks and does is a reaction to what happens around them and what they already know. People are born with some things hardwired into their brain too. Nothing appears in a persona's head out of nowhere.

This information and the ability to receive more of it, is tied to physical parts of the body. When those physical parts fail, the entire thing breaks down into nothing. There's no reason for an "after-life" to exist because consciousness is a purely physical phenomena. People are machines made out of organic compounds.

Post edited on 29th Apr 2021, 4:05pm
>> No. 38128 [Edit]
>>38127
>consciousness is a purely physical phenomena
I can't even begin to define physical phenomena without consciousness first though.
And I don't mean that I need consciousness to define it, but that the notion of "physical stuff" is absolute nonsense without consciousness(awareness,perception,qualia, whatever you wanna call it). Every definition you get for "phenomenon" or "existence" ultimately hinges on perception.
>> No. 38129 [Edit]
>>38126
Oho, the universal consciousness theory. Nice.
If there is really a universal consciousness, it means that "omg new madoka movie" is entirely relevant. Study it well.
>> No. 38130 [Edit]
>>38129
>If there is really a universal consciousness, it means that "omg new madoka movie" is entirely relevant. Study it well.

Why? Because art is a navigation of consciousness?
I still feel it's a misplaced sense of priority.
>> No. 38131 [Edit]
>>38128
>Every definition you get for "phenomenon" or "existence" ultimately hinges on perception.
Because humans are limited to take in and process information via our perception. We have no other means of doing so. Your options are to work with those limitations, give up, or make shit up.
>the notion of "physical stuff" is absolute nonsense without consciousness
We reliably perceive atoms, therefore atoms exist. Either you assume perception is accurate, or you decide not to trust perception as an accurate means of gaining information about the universe. Trusting perception means believing that what we perceive would exist without anything to perceive it, and if something that could perceive spontaneously came into existence, they would perceive the exact same thing. There is no valid third option.

Trusting perception has proven to be more useful than making shit up("intuition").

Post edited on 29th Apr 2021, 4:42pm
>> No. 38132 [Edit]
>>38124
You seem to be looking in the wrong place. The idea is mostly explored in applied metaphysics aka magick, and I don't mean the new age stuff, but stuff from centuries BC right up to today.
To give a theoretical start, the Corpus Hermeticum is good, along with Plotinus, followed by learning the basics of theurgy with something like The Practical Art of Divine Magic (admittedly modern, but based on ancient sources and far less obscure) along with something to give a grounding in the basics of magick practice in general, like The Sorcerer's Secrets (again, modern, but the ancient sources are either vague or consist mostly of bashing your head against a wall until it gives). Chthonic theurgy, what some might call necromancy, is what you're looking for. Or at least the theory behind it, if it is to remain a thought experiment.
If you wish to deduce the theory from the practical, Greek and Roman Necromancy might be what you're looking for.
>> No. 38133 [Edit]
>>38132
Has literally anything been accomplished with this "knowledge"?
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>>38131
As I said, I'm as sure as you can get. As in, more sure of my existence beyond being a human than the chair I'm sitting on or any atoms it or this body may be composed of, because I reliably perceive this existence through both inference and intuition(direct insight, like understanding that 2+2=4), unlike atoms which I only perceive through abstract theory and a collection of memories. (atoms)matter may outlive and influence consciousness beyond this physical body, that does not restrict consciousness to existing only in atoms though.
>>38132
Oh I see what you mean, I've read some of the enneads and some of the corpus hermeticum. Nothing on necromancy or the other 2 books. I'll give it a try. Honestly I hesitate from wanting to know more to not wanting to read much because I don't want it to pollute and add other people's illusory material to my experience, most of what I know or think I know comes from direct practice.
>> No. 38135 [Edit]
>>38134
>I reliably perceive this existence through both inference and intuition
To me, this looks like a coping mechanism for reality as it is right in front of you being too cruel and scary.
>> No. 38136 [Edit]
>>38135
It'd be far more reassuring to be sure that nonexistence follows, I don't know what form existence without this body will take, it's quite scary.
If I assume that you do have an inner experience, I don't understand your position at all though. You place the existence of that experience as dependent on a theoretical universe that you only know of because of a collection of experience, and you say that the matter in that universe can give rise to your experience. Even within that assumed universe you also know that we know very little of the matter in it, a tiny, tiny percentage, the standard model isn't even complete, but yet you are sure that it can only give rise to your inner experience once. Why?
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>>38135
>To me, this looks like a coping mechanism for reality as it is right in front of you being too cruel and scary.
I think people who say this are cruel and scary people projecting themselves on their environment. Must our lives be terrifying?
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>>38136
>If I assume that you do have an inner experience
My inner experience is a stream of thought, and impulses derived from my temperament and stimuli that occurred in the long and short term. I do things because I feel compelled to. I think things because something or another(external or internal) triggers that thought. That's why I'm writing this post, because I feel the impulse to. I often feel like I don't control my own actions and am a puppet to impulses.
>the standard model isn't even complete, but yet you are sure that it can only give rise to your inner experience
Because there's nothing completely original about myself(or anybody else). I'm a derivative product of external, material things, and so are you. My parents, my surroundings, my experiences. Those are material things. It builds on itself so quickly and in such a complex way, the illusion of free-will is created.
>>38137
I'd love to worship a deity if I was sure it existed and would benefit from it. I didn't choose the way things are.
>> No. 38139 [Edit]
>>38138
That always makes me think that it is not inconceivable for AIs to achieve a similar level of awareness/consciousness as we do, though probably not with current technologies. Neuroscience is a relatively recent discipline but they are making huge progress in researches into these as well.
>> No. 38140 [Edit]
>>/tat/1262 is a good place to continue the thread of discussion on consciousness/afterlife. To avoid cluttering this thread, I posted my thoughts in there.
>> No. 38143 [Edit]
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Sleep procrastination. It's like a strange addiction. Everyday I tell myself I'll go to bed at some reasonable hour, but once that time rolls around, I get this strong feeling of dissatisfaction that holds me back. Like "I haven't had enough. I still need something first". When I get into good habits, that means resisting that feeling, but it doesn't go away. Depression? Loneliness? I'm not sure what it is.
>> No. 38144 [Edit]
>>38143
I really like this image for some reason, can't stop looking at it. Makes me want to cuddle a caterpillar. I'm also quite similar with regards to sleep schedules, I wonder if it's a common thing among people like us.
>> No. 38145 [Edit]
The lack of headphone jacks in modern day smart phones. Not because I'm bothered by the thread of stripping features out of phones, but because this encourages a culture of shitty behavior. Ever since headphone jacks went away, people have since started playing music on their phones in speaker mode. Needless to say, they're cunts. I think they're using the lack of headphone jacks as an excuse for not using headphones to listen to their garbage that they're forcing everyone else to listen to too.
Bluetooth headphones exist, but they're a lot more expensive than the wired versions so people likely can't afford them or don't want to spend the extra cash.

You might say; "but they're spending up to $1,000 on these phones, surely they can spend $100 for the headphones". Keep in mind, people who get those shitty over priced phones aren't likely dropping $1000+ for them right then and there. I can't speak for other countries/areas, but this one is a materialistic one in which no one owns any said materials. The norm here is to rent/lease pretty much everything. Debt is a standard thing, people make payments on houses they don't own, cars they don't own, phones they down own, education, furniture, you name it. They're probably paying $50 a month to show off their $1000 iphone that isn't really theirs, and bluetooth headphones probably aren't going to be included in these plans. The kind of low class dipshit that plays music in speaker mode in public likely sees $100 as a ton of money, two months of payments worth, so they take a pass and make everyone suffer instead.

Further more, I really hate how the culture here not only tolerates, but encourages loud obnoxious behavior. It's not just speaker phone music, but people blasting their horrible taste in music from their car stereos, cars around here are often modified to be extremely loud and heard from many blocks away. I can even hear a motorcycle off in the distance while typing this, and now someone's music. It comes across as pathetic and immature. These people have done nothing with their lives, they have nothing to make them respectable members of society, so they take pride and fun in more sub human practices, seeing who can make the most noise. This is the kind of behavior you'd expect from animals, not a civilized person. Far be it for me to call people losers, being one myself, but at least I keep to myself and don't go out of my way to bother other people. Is that really so much to ask for of others?

Post edited on 2nd May 2021, 7:02pm
>> No. 38147 [Edit]
>>38145
I'm sorry you live in a shit hole and don't have enough money to isolate yourself from the riff raff.
>> No. 38148 [Edit]
>>38145
> I'm bothered by the thread of stripping features out of phones
I'm bothered by that. Apparently companies don't even include chargers in the box these days. I'd be perfectly fine using some generic (albeit bootloader unlocked and rooted) android phone but all carriers are discontinuing traditional 3g services and lower LTE bands in their move to 5g.
>> No. 38149 [Edit]
>>38148
That bugs me a lot too, it's just it's own separate rant is all.
When shopping for my last phone I was shocked to find that not only have headphone jacks been stripped away, but they're also doing away with micro SD card support. The very idea seemed insane to me, but they're all doing it. They want you to upload all your content to the cloud. Putting aside privacy issues with that, it has a number of practicality issues. My main reason for upgrading in the first place was because my old phone with it's 16gb of internal memory just couldn't keep up with new games. I couldn't keep more than 1-2 games on it, which with every update only increases in size. At least with SD cards, you can transfer content to said card and in some cases run apps off the cards too. You've got extendibility there. That cloud storage tends to come with a monthly fee, and even if it doesn't, what happens if you're not on an unlimited data plan and uploading your content ends up screwing up your bill or using up all your data for a cycle? Then there's not being able to access any of your content if you have no reception, which was the case for where I worked. I like storing anime and manga on my SD card. I couldn't stream content (even if I wanted to) where I was working when I upgraded. I brought this up with a salesmen who was trying to sell me on these new phones, he was at a loss. Far as I'm concerned, they're useless without some form of storage card support.
The other thing I noticed was curved screens. I doubt the average person ever notices or thinks about this one, but most modern phones have curved front glass screens. This is a problem for screen protectors. Glass screen protectors can't attach properly to a curved screen, and the other option is screen protectors made of flexible soft materials, but from what I've seen those almost always yellow and peel at the edges. I'm just guessing here but I think phone makers do this intentionally to discourage the use of screen protectors. Manufactured obsolescence is a proven fact in the phone world, so it stands to reason they wouldn't want you extending the life of your phone or it's components. They're probably banking on the idea of people smashing their screens and deciding to trade in their phone for an upgrade, or in the case of apple pay ridiculously marked up prices for repairs at their shops. Apple after all 'tries' to discourage third party repair services.
Not a big deal but loops for keychains pretty much disappeared from all phones too, and I don't think anyone noticed. Mine still has one but I don't honestly use it because my case blocks it anyway.
It's funny they do these things, while at the same time raising prices.
>> No. 38150 [Edit]
>>38145
>>38147
I'm not sure where he's from but it's funny how shitholes are generally the same no matter which corner of the world they are in. Whatever he said applies here as well.
>> No. 38156 [Edit]
I hate the format that most books use. So often even though the title is about a very specific thing, books intersperse the relevant information in between "it was london 1993 when I met dave and blah blah blah".
I understand context is important but leave it at the preface for god's sake
>> No. 38157 [Edit]
>>38156
Are you reading fiction or non-fiction? Isn't all the extra details the whole point of fiction (which is why I've never liked it that much)? Otherwise you'd just be left with a factual list of events
>> No. 38158 [Edit]
>>38157
Non-fiction, yeah I avoid fiction for the same reason.
Anything but strictly technical papers has this problem.
>> No. 38159 [Edit]
>>38156
>leave it at the preface
Nobody wants an exposition dump in the beginning before they have any reason to care. Information should be introduced gradually and with the story.

Post edited on 4th May 2021, 2:03pm
>> No. 38160 [Edit]
>>38159
I'm just saying, if I'm reading a book about growing plants, I'd really prefer if the author stopped babbling about their personal life.
As to factual stories, they should at least have the decency to have the commentary on context labelled in its own paragraph.
>> No. 38169 [Edit]
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The latest pale moon update doesn't support legacy firefox extensions, which was like half-the point of the project. Palemoon hardly has any of its own too. I don't know what to do.
>> No. 38170 [Edit]
>>38169
Waterfox classic? Otherwise there's always seamonkey.
>> No. 38171 [Edit]
>>38170
I've thought about waterfox. Heard it was bought by an advertising company, but I don't really have the luxury to give a shit. Rikaisama, or something like it, is an essential, and now palemoon doesn't have it.
>> No. 38172 [Edit]
>>38171
Out of curiosity, is Yomichan lacking in comparison to Rikaisama?
>> No. 38173 [Edit]
>>38172
Never used Yomichan.
>> No. 38174 [Edit]
>>38173
Go check it out, my friend: https://foosoft.net/projects/yomichan/
>> No. 38175 [Edit]
>>38169
After trying waterfox, my bookmarks, of which I have hundreds, would not import. In fact, trying broke the library, seemingly permanently as even after reinstalling multiple times it stayed broken. So now I'm using firefox and it works. Kind of depressing, but whatever.
>>38174
Looks nice, but I don't use most of those features. rikai saves me the trouble of looking things up which is all I'm after at this point.
>> No. 38178 [Edit]
>>38169
Oh my god, I looked to see how hard forking the rikaisama extension would be. I had heard rumors that the dev was a furry and a complete cunt, never looked into it. Regardless of the furry thing, he makes a post practically begging people to help with the porting of extensions and then refuses to post even the most simplified guide on how to do so, while calling the users entitled for wanting to help.
I think I'll stop using palemoon now, nothing good can come out of this.
>> No. 38179 [Edit]
>>38169
>>38178
As a long time Pale Moon user, this saddens me.
>> No. 38180 [Edit]
>>38178
>I think I'll stop using palemoon now
What will you use now?
>I had heard rumors that the dev was a furry and a complete cunt
I think he has an overly idealistic image of a "community" where everybody is totally self-sufficient and sees their browser as a hobby rather than a tool they rely on. The few interactions I had with him were unpleasant.
>> No. 38182 [Edit]
>>38179
I've used it for years too.
>>38180
I don't know what I'll use, I tried Falkon, it has really bad extension support. I tried installing icecat but it's a really unwieldy process. Right now I'm on "ungoogled chromium", which has all the add ons of the chrome store, it's alright, hopefully safe. Rikaikun on it works. There's really no good choice.
Honestly this is getting tiring, keeping up with the web is like trying to climb an ever falling ladder that gets worse and worse as you climb.

Post edited on 5th May 2021, 9:07am
>> No. 38183 [Edit]
>>38182
Do you have a really good reason to not just give up and use current firefox? I've been battling against browsers for years too until finally I said fuck and gave up. Turns out just using whatever recent version of chrome or firefox is little less annoying than the alternative. Then again, I only use rikaichamp and uBlock pretty much, so I didn't have to deal with addon problems.
>> No. 38184 [Edit]
>>38183
Practical reason? Only that even though it runs fine on my desktop, last time I tried it really slowed down my old laptop and I like to use the same browser everywhere I can.
But mostly I refuse to out of principle and disgust with the people behind the big 3 mainstream browsers.
I'll probably give up on the internet before I give up on trying to use it in a manner I like.
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>>38182
>I tried installing icecat
From what I've heard, icecat is more about conforming to an ideological ideal than being functional. Having a special, pre-installed extension that breaks sites and reinstalls every update only makes sense in that context. If you're on linux and firefox isn't something you want to use, I've heard "librewolf" is okay(take it with a grain of salt).
>Right now I'm on "ungoogled chromium"
I used to use that. Do you know it automatically deletes history older than three months? Bookmarks also have no date added field or tags. I'm surprised it got as popular as it did, but I guess the majority doesn't care about those things much. Extensions are useful, but I don't think they should be responsible for core browser features since the result is usually slower, uglier and less stable. There's limits to what extensions can do too. "Thin-tabs" aren't possible on chromium extension or not.
>> No. 38186 [Edit]
>>38184
Believe me I know what you mean. While I would prefer to have a browser just the way I want it, getting used to use whatever is quickly available turned out to be a better tactic for me.
>> No. 38187 [Edit]
>>38185
>icecat is more about conforming to an ideological ideal than being functional
Definitely noticeable.
And librewolf seems to be killing the ram on my old laptop.
>Do you know it automatically deletes history older than three months?
No, thanks for the warning, that's absurd.
As I said, no good choice left it seems.
>>38186
>whatever is quickly available-
Fine.(posted from links browser, it works!)
No, but seriously, I understand the temptation and I might do it one day, when my browsing is greatly reduced. Not now though.
>> No. 38188 [Edit]
>>38187
If you like links, you should try elinks or w3m. It's good enough to be used as the main browser for text-only sites.
>> No. 38189 [Edit]
>>38178
>I had heard rumors that the dev was a furry and a complete cunt
The open-bsd issue is still infamous as the example of how to not build a community: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
Quite an attitude to take against someone who's doing you a favor by trying to get palemoon into the package repos – especially considering 90% of palemoon is just mozilla's stuff

>>38174
>>38172
>yomichan
>rikaisama
I've never used either of these before – I'm curious, on a technical level do they actually do any parsing/segmentation of JP text (like kuromoji or mecab does) or is it strictly dictionary based-lookup for the highlighted portion?

Edit: I tried it out: it uses a "longest dictionary match" scanning rightward from the cursor. This actually seems to be implemented in the naive way where it executes a dictionary lookup for each possible prefix of the word, then takes the longest matching prefix. (See the "_getAllDeinflections" function). Although it seems yomichan also supports optional integration with mecab via a native extension

Post edited on 5th May 2021, 11:45am
>> No. 38190 [Edit]
>>38188
Thanks, w3m seems interesting with its (kinda broken) image support.
>>38189
>https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
Jesus what a power trip
>> No. 38191 [Edit]
>>38183
I'm using Firefox with a custom user.js to block tracking as well as possible while not degrading functionality I care about.
At least sites work 99% of the time.
Graphical browsers are terrible and all sites should have be compatible with text-based browsers. It's not a solution, but it's as good as it gets with the modern internet. For better systems, try gemini or gopher. There's less sites, but at least they aren't actively trying to spy on you in every way possible while needing gigabytes of RAM.
>> No. 38192 [Edit]
>>38191
Seamonkey still seems to be maintained and from what i can tell is basically forked from the old XUL-based firefox. I haven't read about very many people using it though; I wonder why?
>> No. 38193 [Edit]
>>38192
Seamonkey is a "browser suite" with built-in email client and other stuff. Maybe that concept alone puts off people since it seems antiquated and excessive. There's better programs for those separate functions, so people assume there is for the browser too. Mediocre email client and browser put together loses to separate good versions of those. Never used it though.
>> No. 38194 [Edit]
>>38189
>The open-bsd issue is still infamous as the example of how to not build a community: https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86
OSS drama is always delicious. I've seen the ibara guy around in other places, and he's a nice guy. The fact the Pale Moon people acted the way they did with him is a little disgusting.
>> No. 38195 [Edit]
>>38193
>Mediocre email client
If it's based on thunderbird, calling it "mediocre" is doing it a disservice. You'd be hard-pressed to find another extensible mail client. Plus it also does rss!
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>>38195
>If it's based on thunderbird, calling it "mediocre" is doing it a disservice.
I use thunderbird myself. I don't know how good seamonkey's email client is. Just the impression someone might get from it being included with the browser.
>> No. 38197 [Edit]
>>38194
>You will revise your mozconfig
>You must comply with the directive
Resistance is futile?

Given all the chromium forks that exist you'd think that someone could at least pair blink + v8 with some shell that provides more extensibility. But for some reason even Brave basically just copies the existing UI wholesale. (Although I guess given how integrated Google's codebases are, you can't "just" replace the UI layer with a more extensible alternative without having to deal with the underlying sandboxing and process separation.)
>> No. 38198 [Edit]
>>38192
Alright I'm trying seamonkey now.
It's pretty weird and really slow. I can't even tell whether I am on a private window or not. I think the location bar changes color? Also I'm getting no audio from youtube.
Strange, strange browser.
It's interesting though, and even though it is stuttering it's really not using much ram at all.
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I still can't believe there's actually people who use a motorcycle.
>> No. 38210 [Edit]
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Most people don't don't connect the dots in their head when it comes to their moral hangups. They'll go on and on about how bad and evil incest and hebephilia is, but their ancestors almost certainly committed both of those. They wouldn't exist if their ancestors didn't get 13 year olds pregnant. It's like people think they came from a morally righteous void.

Post edited on 11th May 2021, 6:15pm
>> No. 38211 [Edit]
>>38210
Your ancestors were cannibals too. People know these things but just because your ancestor did something does not mean you have to.
>> No. 38212 [Edit]
>>38211
Cannibalism wasn't nearly as common and probably only done in desperation. I think cannibalism is less demonized than those things too.
>> No. 38213 [Edit]
>>38212
It's fairly common in the anthropological record and often was done in circumstances that were not due to desperation.
>> No. 38214 [Edit]
>>38213
Not as common. Especially not more recently.
>> No. 38215 [Edit]
>>38214
Well of course not but then neither is hebephilia.
>> No. 38216 [Edit]
>>38215
I'm comparing it to hebephilia and incest.
>> No. 38217 [Edit]
>>38210
Your ancestors did a lot of things you'd find abhorrent, what kind of logic is that? For the record, "hebephillia", which is just a less mean word for 'pedophillia', is firmly disconnected from lolicon, if people complaining about that is your issue.
I've already seen one board where people talk about loli get infested by literal pedophiles thinking they're in good company, saying the 'age is just a number' shit and defending people (not the creepy bots that occasionally pop up) posting literal CP. It's fucking creepy and no one likes it, and no one is going to like it no matter how many excuses you make for how much you want to fuck 3dpd tweens.
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>>38217
>"hebephillia", which is just a less mean word for 'pedophillia'
No, actually.

You sound upset. I don't really care about if people fuck tweens or not. I find it annoying when people get so indignant about it like you are. Men are built to want to impregnate fertile girls. This is an undeniable truth. Getting uppity and pretending the truth is not the truth is what annoys me. And for your information, a lot of loli artists used nude pictures of under 18 girls as references.
>> No. 38219 [Edit]
And another thing, unless you're a parent or a 14 year old girl yourself, I don't see why you would care. In any other circumstance you couldn't care less about that demographic. I could show you a story about a bunch of 14 year olds getting run over by a train and you wouldn't really give a shit, but suddenly you're concerned about them in this context. And when they grow up, they become completely disposable and just like every other adult you don't care about.

Post edited on 11th May 2021, 8:32pm
>> No. 38220 [Edit]
>>38219
I think people care because the young are relatively innocent, and have potential to possibly do good in this world.
Then they stop being so innocent and do rotten nasty things with their life, so no one cares as much then if they get hit by a train.
>> No. 38221 [Edit]
>>38219
That makes no sense. By that logic you should not care if anything bad happens to anything in this world. People are torturing kittens? Well you are not a cat and don't have any kittens so why should you care?
>> No. 38222 [Edit]
>>38221
I don't care about that. Not really. They do that in China, at least with dogs. Don't care. How much time do you spend on those issues? Does getting mad about it on the internet accomplish anything besides making yourself feel good?

Post edited on 11th May 2021, 10:40pm
>> No. 38223 [Edit]
>>38222
That's you though. I don't mean this in a hurr durr ur autistic kind of way but I think you may actually be autistic. Your brain seems to work in odd ways and you don't seem to be able to comprehend basic thought patterns and emotion within normal people.

>How much time do you spend on those issues? Does getting mad about it on the internet accomplish anything besides making yourself feel good?

That could be said about literally any argument or even opinion on the internet even >>38210
>> No. 38224 [Edit]
>>38223
I'm annoyed by other people because I'm forced to be around them. What they say and do affects me because of that. What somebody does to a cat or kid doesn't as long as I don't know about it. I'm annoyed by things because of my own convictions. Other people care about things because they feel obligated to, but they're totally hypocritical, fanatical and inconsistent about it. Complaining on the internet about things that annoy you is fine. Doing it out of a sense of moral obligation is for self-righteous normalfags.

Why is it okay to keep farm animals in bad conditions, but people care about cats getting killed? Pigs are smarter than cats. It's hypocritical nonsense. I understand people perfectly well. They're irrational and stupid. They care about kids because of culture and the chimpanzee part of their brain telling them to.

Post edited on 11th May 2021, 11:22pm
>> No. 38225 [Edit]
>>38224
They don't feel obligated too and in fact probably feel the same way you do.

Most of the people that care about cats getting killed also would not want to see farm animals being mistreated(Australia even stopped live exports to Indonesia because of that). You are creating a strawman.

We don't view cats as food like we view pigs and pigs are disgusting and not really practical to keep as pets. Because we keep cast as pets and don't eat them they become anthropomorphised. Well this happens to all animals in the west to some degree, it's why non religious veganism is rising so much.
>> No. 38226 [Edit]
>>38225
>They don't feel obligated too
No, they think "their beliefs" make them good people, and that disagreeing with them means somebody is a bad person. I don't believe in good people.
>Most of the people that care about cats getting killed also would not want to see farm animals being mistreated
It doesn't matter what they'd want to see. The majority would still happily eat them. That's not real conviction, it's passive distaste for some gory details.
>We don't view cats as food
Speak for yourself. I'd eat a cat if offered.
>> No. 38227 [Edit]
>>38224
>>38225
Personally I care about cats because I grew up playing with them, while I don't care about pigs because I grew up eating them. I don't care too much about people because they have mostly been a source of suffering for me, while cats have been the opposite. I don't see how this is particularly irrational or hypocrite. In moral grounds I would be against unnecessary cruelty against cats, pigs or people, if some particular culture had the habit of eating cats and keeping pigs as pets I couldn't really complain, I would just be disgusted by it.
>> No. 38228 [Edit]
>>38226
Some do, some don't. Again, many think that all people are bad like you do, yet they still like cats and don't want to seem them mistreated. It's actually a common view.

They don't though. Many boycott such products.

Well I mean sure, many would, many don't like cats and you think differently as I already said.


>>38227
I grew up around cats and cows and I like cows even if I do eat them too.
>> No. 38229 [Edit]
>>38228
>Many boycott such products.
We're not talking about vegetarians or niche activists, we're talking about average people. That's why you brought up cats as an example of things people "should care about". This is why talking to you is pointless.
>>38227
You're explaining your irrationality. You didn't really think before deciding a cat's life is more valuable. At least you don't think your view on cats is objectively correct.
>> No. 38230 [Edit]
>>38229
You tend to lump people together too much. Cats are a thing people should care about and a thing most do I would think. But that does not mean everybody does.

It's not just niche groups that boycott such products. In my country stores used to sell eggs form caged hens, nobody really spared a thought for caged birds as they didn't really know it was a thing. They didn't know the details of where their eggs came from. But once some people started talking about it and it gained attention people stopped buying these eggs and supermarkets stopped selling them. You could even say this is a reason for people to argue about these kind of things on the internet, because it can start conversations and get people thinking about these things that they may not have known bout before.

I think the reason you see talking to me as pointless is again, because you think differently so many things that may be common sense or not that difficult to understand elude you. You tend to think in a very black and white manner and can't really see anything in between that.
>> No. 38231 [Edit]
>>38230
>Cats are a thing people should care about
Wow, riveting.
>In my country
Hope you like overpriced eggs then. In MY country, people don't give a shit.
>I think the reason you see talking to me as pointless is again, because you think differently
Somehow it's not a problem with anybody else, so I'll go for the simplest explanation and ignore you again.

Post edited on 12th May 2021, 12:16am
>> No. 38232 [Edit]
>>38231
This is getting into /tat/ territory, and trying to explain basic things to you certainly would take it to that so I'll leave it.
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>>38218
that's nice picture
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I think the three episode rule is bs since certain anime are nothing but slow build up, but the ending makes it worth it in its way. School Days was all worth it for those last few episodes. Anime can be enjoyed in so many different ways for different reasons, so the rigid measures of "objective quality" anime reviewers like to pretend exist are annoying. People subscribe to these nonsense standards because they can't appreciate the uniqueness an anime can have.
>> No. 38238 [Edit]
>>38237
Also often 3 episodes is way too generous
>> No. 38324 [Edit]
Events/shows that make people buy tickets in pairs. Not all of us have friends or partners, what the fug yo.
>> No. 38326 [Edit]
>>38324
That almost encourages scalping
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It's weirdly annoying when characters waste food. A lot of the time it's ramen for some reason. They'll show a full bowl and the characters just picking at it while talking about something. It'll get cold. There's no way they'll eat all of it. I wouldn't mind watching characters eat in silence with lots of different angles and panning shots to show off their little idiosyncrasies.

Post edited on 28th May 2021, 8:55am
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>>38330
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>>38331
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>>38332
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>>38075
I've figured out that I just hate any coffee that isn't light roast. Light roast has the most caffeine and tastes the best by far. There is literally no advantage to roasting coffee more. Dark roast and medium roast are only more popular because the world is a sick, twisted place. In a sane world, they'd call those burnt.
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I've seen a lot of artist(at least ones who make money on their art) who get better technically over time, but seem to lose their creative edge or guts. Looking at random, long-time pixiv artists, a lot of them seem to have been more willing to have fun with their art in the past. They drew humorous things and parodies and were more free-spirited. Konno tohiro is one example(who drew pic in 2009).

Now they stick to trends and never deviate from some set, popular subject-matter they decided for themselves. Some westerns artists likewise used to draw more taboo subject-matter, but have since stopped. I don't get it. Why work that much if you reduce the breadth of what you draw? Why do they get more timid and boring? It's sad to see creatives "degenerate" like that.

Post edited on 31st May 2021, 10:11am
>> No. 38355 [Edit]
>>38354
I assume that's just part of growing up.
>> No. 38356 [Edit]
>>38355
In my opinion, it's an artist's job to never "grow up".

Post edited on 31st May 2021, 10:34am
>> No. 38357 [Edit]
>>38354
>>38355
I think it's a matter of the times we live in now. Expression is more limited and people feel more constrained. It's not specifically about them getting older, so much as adapting to the current environment. Otherwise you'd see newer artists having similar sorts of fun.
>> No. 38361 [Edit]
>>38354
>Now they stick to trends and never deviate from some set, popular subject-matter they decided for themselves.
One explanation of this change is that, over time, an artist becomes associated with certain things, and thus deviating from them would result in fewer fans and money. This goes for musical composers and bands too.
>> No. 38362 [Edit]
>>38354
I'm not sure that I have noticed that so much. But I do believe it probably happens and there are a number of reasons why.

1. The artist got too popular and now has to cater towards a wider audience, maybe he started out drawing weird futa centaur images but as his fan base grew he had to divert from that.

2. Connected with 1, what he is commissioned to draw is changing or maybe he was not commissioned at all before, of course if he is drawing what he wants he can do what he wants but even if he is drawing commissions, as that fan base widens it will average out and become more normalised so what he draws may become more normalised. He also may choose not to draw weird futa centaur images any more because he wants to appeal to a wider audience to get more commissions.

3. The most worrying one. The nature of art in general is changing, it's now increasingly based in the realms of social media. The more niche an image the less clicks it gets(if it is not outright banned to begin with).

I don't think it has anything to do with 'growing up'. I think it happens the other way around too, some artists start of normal but then go weird. Or at least it used to, now maybe not so much.


I don't mean this in an evil money grubbing way either, though of course that happens. But with this age of social media and the way it connects the audience to the artist, if he posts a drawing of x popular anime he will get more fans commenting on it and saying they like it and even if his motives are purely altruistic, he will draw images simply for the enjoyment of people and that will skew those images to be more mainstream as the opinions of people sway it that way.

Post edited on 31st May 2021, 9:51pm
>> No. 38380 [Edit]
I'm a little annoyed at how overused the slow motion sfx are in contemporary media. It's practically everywhere.
>> No. 38407 [Edit]
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Image board culture as a whole. The vast majority of people who use image boards are obnoxious pricks. It's impossible for them to have a civil conversation when the other person has a different opinion. They perceive other opinions as an insult or challenge.

They don't value the ability to understand why others think the way they do. Instead, they use their own opinions and tastes as internet status symbols. They flaunt them around constantly for no other reason but to stroke their own ego, like some kind of symbol of virtue.

The concept of expecting civility offends them, and they would not be caught dead apologizing for anything. 8chan compounded this. Pretty much all of the most abrasive cunts you'll ever talk to on an imageboard were regular users of 8chan.

At this point, I don't think there's any way to avoid it. Any (english)websites with the basic format of an imageboard which manages to attract anybody will inevitably be besieged by people with this attitude.
>> No. 38408 [Edit]
>>38407
I'm not sure if this is exclusive to image board users, seems like more of a human problem in general.
>> No. 38409 [Edit]
>>38407
I agree, though I think a large part of the problem is actually represented in your post.

>obnoxious pricks.
>abrasive cunts

It would be interesting to see what would happen if there were imageboards that simply banned anybody that sweared or even personally attacked anybody in a similar manner.
>> No. 38410 [Edit]
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I don't know if posting this here is appropiate but at least it should count as venting.
My brother told me about some coworker that had to work 320 hours last month but didn't get paid for most of them because someone forgot to count them and now "nothing can be done about it". And that kind of shit happens all the time, my brother lived like that for decades (I barely had a taste of something similar for a few years and my only wish was to die as sooner as possible), working 12-14 hours all days of the week, and while I have it a lot better I'm slowly degrading into a situation where I'll need to be available 24h.
Along with other things it made descend into a depressed state. Not like I wasn't already depressed, but now I'm depressed differently. It's a mix of guilt, because I'm not as fucked but I'm still complaining about my particular situation, fear, because I could end like that or permanently unemployed (and that means I might need to end myself sooner or later) and the realization of what the world really is about. This is reality, the adult world, if you're lucky you'll have to work all the time in any fucked up condition to simply survive, there's no alternative and maturing means to accept that simple fact. It's like suddenly I took consciousness of how the vast majority of human beings have to live their lifes. I saw the abyss of life and I'm scared.

Considering all I said and how this was a thread about things that piss you off, it really makes me mad when people say things like "money can't buy you happiness". To me that's like saying breathing or eating won't bring you happiness, it's necessary condition for life! It's an stupid statement only a person with enough money and who doesn't know the value of things could say. It's an insult to all those people that are literally dying at work.
>> No. 38411 [Edit]
>>38410
I think what most people mean by that is that assuming you have enough money to live comfortably, additional money doesn't result in a proportional increase in happiness. I.e. the utility of money is logarithmic. Since most people who make that statement are probably living comfortably themselves, they only look at the sublinear regime past the threshold.
>> No. 38412 [Edit]
>>38411
That's like saying money isn't important as long as you have money.
I know what you mean though, but I can't help but feel is the kind of entitled things people in a better position than the vast majority like to say. Like saying, I have so much money I don't even care about it.
>> No. 38414 [Edit]
>>38410
>there's no alternative
That's just what this fucked up system wants you to think. A system this horrible can't exist without conditioning people to be so dependent on it that they can't even imagine any other way of living. I think this also takes advantage of people's natural fear of change, where in people will choose to continue living in a less favorable situation that has if nothing else has proven to be stable. The idea of change and taking a chance might be fun to fantasize about, but fear of the unknown will generally keep people from doing anything more than just that. No mater how bad a situation is, a person will still find one excuse after another to defend the shitty situation they're in and why they can't leave it when pushed to do something about it.
You could leave, go somewhere new, find a new trade, make new friends, make a new life for yourself, far far away from there if you have to. If you get to the point where suicide starts to sound tempting, then what do you really have to lose? At least you'd have a chance of a better life, and it's not like the suicide option goes away if you try your hand at a better life.

And in case you're thinking "that's easy for you to say", this is coming from someone who is in the process of traveling across the country and looking for a new place to settle down. It hasn't been all fun, but even at the worst of times I've never once considered going back to the rotten shithole town I came from.
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>>38414
>can't even imagine any other way of living
So does that mean you have any suggestions about a better way to live? What's a good trade to get into?
>> No. 38416 [Edit]
>>38414
Sorry, you got me wrong.
I don't make excuses to stay in shitty situations because I don't even have the will to stay in shitty situations, I always try to avoid pain, nothing heroic about it. I'm actually quitting my job because it turned into shit and I hope I can find something better. But when I see so many people going through hell I wonder if I'm just naive and that's how things are supposed to be and I'm just a complainer. I have lots of conflicted feelings. But I always try to stick to my decisions. My problem is, I can easily imagine myself in another shitty job or just finally ending terminally unemployed = dead. It's tiresome when you don't see any progress at all.

About suicide, it's an escapist fantasy. Years ago I planned to do it, now it's just a thought I like to have because at least it means an exit. I look back and life hasn't been particularly worth living until now. If I could know for sure the next 30 years are going to be the same shit or worse I think I would give up. Just living because you're afraid of death isn't truly living.

I think we are in the same ship. I suspect I have answered you in other threads in similar ways you answered to me, also you probably expressed suicidal ideas too.
Maybe we are going trough the same rollercoaster of doubt, despair and hope.
>> No. 38422 [Edit]
>>38415
I think that depends on the person. Maybe this seems like a cop out but I can't just say "Do this then this and this, then you'll have a happy life!". It's never that easy. All I can recommend is perusing something you have a passion for. Careers in computers and IT tend to work out well for people such as us, but even those can apparently be soul crushing. At least with something you has a passion for, you'd have the motivation to keep at it even when things get hard, which they likely will regardless of what one decides to do.

>>38416
Sorry to misunderstand then.
I don't think a living hell of a life should be normal by any means. For all the advancements we as humans have made, you would think things like that would be behind us by now. Have the people there ever considered forming unions? going on strike? that sort of thing?
Either way, it's good to hear you're at least trying to do something about it. I don't think that makes you a complainer, I think it makes those other people cattle.
Also, humans are pretty resilient, when pushed to the edge they generally find a way out of whatever problem they're in.

>Maybe we are going trough the same rollercoaster of doubt, despair and hope.
Yeah, no kidding...
>> No. 38423 [Edit]
>>38422
>Careers in computers and IT tend to work out well for people such as us, but even those can apparently be soul crushing
Looking at the medium to long term, software engineering isn't exactly the golden ticket that it once was given that the VC money that had bene sloshing around for the past few years will likely dry up in the next downturn, and the number of people you're competing with keeps increasing. Then again, this might vary by location: you'll have a much easier time being hired for an IT-related role in e.g. central US than in the bay area for example. At the very least, don't fall for the machine-learning/"big data" fad.
>> No. 38424 [Edit]
>>38423
>you'll have a much easier time being hired for an IT-related role in e.g. central US than in the bay area for example.
I know someone in that area who's studying the stuff. Apparently all those type of classes are run by morons and some of what they teach is outdated.
>> No. 38427 [Edit]
>>38424
Which type of classes are you referring to? IT is a broad field, and I was referring more to the traditional software engineering role. I've never seen classes for this stuff outside of the so-called "coding bootcamps" which are mostly just a scam considering the wealth of information available online. (In university "computer science" classes are really more of a hodge-podge mix of systems, DB, PL theory, and networking.)
>> No. 38429 [Edit]
>>38423
This might be tangential to the thread of discussion, but one field that I think will be growing for the next few decades is chip/IC design and surrounding fields. My reasoning is as follows: 1) Over the past few years we've seen disruptions to the usual dominance of x64 arch. In particular, Apple has shown arm CPUs can indeed be a viable desktop-class alternative, and even beyond arm there has been experimentation with risc-v, as well as developments in the broader field of software accelerators (TPU). 2) There is a dire shortage of people going into the EE field; for every thousand people going into CS, maybe one person will choose the EE path (and even then, EE is broad enough that he may not end up doing chip design). 3) China has already been putting efforts into chip design and fabbing as they attempt to achieve self-sufficiency and especially wrangle control from TSMC; the US will probably not want to be beat on this front and will start funding/pushing (via private and public interests) this area.
>> No. 38433 [Edit]
I was just listening to a cute anime bgm on youtube that was uploaded on 2017 and it got dmca'd as I was listening to it. Fuck you sony, I don't know what you are even trying to achieve here.
>> No. 38434 [Edit]
>>38433
I know it's not as convenient, but getting into the habit of using youtube-dl instead of streaming would do you well.
>> No. 38435 [Edit]
>>38434
Thanks, it's a good idea, my youtube playlist is a goddamn graveyard. My current method of writing down the titles and hoping to source them from somewhere else is even more inconvenient and I don't always find them.
>> No. 38436 [Edit]
>>38435
>writing down the titles and hoping to source them from somewhere
You know bookmarks record the title already, right? Plus bookmarks don't get deleted even if the video does. You don't have to physically write them down.

Post edited on 23rd Jun 2021, 5:39pm
>> No. 38437 [Edit]
>>38436
Titles won't help if there's multiple songs in the video.
I just copy and paste the descriptions to a text file.
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I've been watching "true crime" videos recently. Like always, people in the comments are smug, self-satisfied and chiefly concerned with patting themselves on the back, but they're particularly obnoxious in this context.
>> No. 38439 [Edit]
Fuck "Pride".
[Disclaimer; this is going to piss some people off. Stop here if you're easily offended. You've been warned. ]

I'm not sure where to start with this because it bothers me on multiple levels for various reasons.
Before you read on, I should make my position clear on the hijklmnopqrs nonsense. There are only two genders, and homosexuals have brain problems. Those are just the facts. I don't hate fags or attack helicopters or whatever. Take a dick up your butt, pretend your dick is a vagina, shave your head and call yourself a pony, I don't care, do whatever the hell you want to do in the privacy of your own home. But the moment you talk that shit outside, that's when the problems start.
Believe it or not, when I go out I don't wave banners depicting what I masturbate to, or announcing it over a loud speaker. I don't meet up with people who masturbate to the same things as me, and I don't throw parades to let the world know what makes my dick feel good. That would be disgusting, vulgar, and obscene.
The way I see it, these "pride" assholes are no different than furfags taking to the streets and throwing pride parades for themselves. You know why people hate furfags? because they can't keep their damn perverted interests to themselves. No one wants to see that shit, but they keep spreading it everywhere.
It's pathetic to see corporations do the same thing with "pride". Everyone knows they don't really give a shit anyway, they're just jumping on a bandwagon to try and stay relevant. When companies do shit like this it's also very alienating. They're picking teams, and when I as a sane heterosexual male see them pushing these various causes, it feels like they're saying their product isn't for us, like they don't want our money anymore, they want those SJW bucks. I guess they still haven't learned that going woke = going broke, because I know I'm not the only one who feels alienated by this garbage.
And it's not just feeling alienated, I simply don't want to do business with companies that support and encourage mass insanity along with the destruction of culture and society, just for personal profits.
Like I said before, do what you do in your own home, but don't throw parades and events for it and slap that shit on half the products in every store, the fuck is wrong with you? Being gay isn't something to be "proud" of, anymore than being straight is something to be proud of. These people need to get over themselves. To be proud means you've achieved something, you're doing something admirable that should command respect and honor, and maybe even envy from those around you. A person should be proud of the successful life they made for themselves and their family, they should be proud of their contributions to their growing community, they should be proud t be a part of something grand. Getting fucked in your ass isn't something to be proud of.
I'm pretty sure pride is one of the deadly sins anyway. If you're religious or not, those sins are still generally negative attributes. If this is pride month, maybe next month can be gluttony, and wrath the month after that?
Here I thought it was bad enough when they ruined rainbows.
Is it really so much to ask for, for self respecting adults to keep their sexual preferences to themselves? Do these people and corporations not know how badly they're fucking up future generations by spreading this stuff, or do they just not care? Kids growing up in the world the way it is today are going in lost and confused, they're being given a dumpster fire and told it's great. The younger people I speak to leave me feeling sorry for this world and the people being brought into it. boys can't be boys, girls can't be girls, no one knows what they are anymore. One thing they do know they are, is depressed and miserable. I used to hang out on forums populated by lots of younger people who kept coming to me for help and support, and it was soul crushing to see how modern society was ruining their lives. I think it's just as well I'm going to die alone, besides being made next to impossible to find women who don't have dick envy, I wouldn't want to raise a family in a world like this anyway. Why would I? Just to watch them get brainwashed by the media into playing roulette with their gender and sexuality, then get horribly depressed when they fail to form stable meaningful relationships as the realization they've ruined their life starts to creep in? I don't want to have to one day explain to my fat ugly lumblerjack looking non-binary life partner that our pronoun-unicorn whatever just slit their hooves in a bathtub after their pronoun partner dumped them for not being woke enough and accidentally calling them "her" or some shit. Fuck this bat shit crazy world, these people are fucking insane and it needs to stop being promoted as anything but that.
>> No. 38441 [Edit]
>>38439
I feel it's purposely perverse. Things like associating something cool like rainbows and fun to this trash are well planned actions. At least the world is burning, so this disgusting spectacle won't last long.
>> No. 38443 [Edit]
>>38439
Go to Sunday school and get a trad wife then you fucking normalfag volcel. My husbando spits on you. You obviously don't belong here. You are the other side of the same coin, a member of a cult centered on procreation, or at least brainwashed by them, if you try to claim to not be driven by religion.
Your country has no culture, mutt. Your society is centered on decadence. In my country the pride marches have no degeneracy, so kindly take care of your filth, because I don't want it spreading to my parts of the world.

The companies you so much complain about, wouldn't hesitate a second to use pander to religious people and desecrate religious symbols, if it happened to be the current hip thing. Their behaviour annoying to everyone, not only if you are against pride.
While we are touching this topic, I would like to express my disgust in the heterosexual hypersexual shit spread by Americans through their movie industry, putting sexual themes in all kinds of media. It's not homosexuals who put advertisements for viagra, condoms and other sex products everywhere, from the internet, through TV, to newspapers and magazines, either.

The deadly sin you speak of is hubris, you pseudo-Christian. The pride in equality movement is used in opposition to shame, that your sinful kind tries to impose on others. YOU are the one who commits sin of pride, sin of hubris, the most deadly one, trying to present yourself as superior, putting your own desires, urges, wants, and whims before the welfare of other people, shaming others, and committing the sin of wrath.
>> No. 38444 [Edit]
>>38443
That's a whole hell of a lot of projecting there anon.
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>>38443
>You obviously don't belong here.
Tohno is the one who posted it. I agree that it doesn't belong on /ot/, but this is Tohno's site at the end of the day. Your mentioning of a "husbando" outs you as either gay or a women, either way making you an extreme outlier here. I suggest you leave for your own mental well-being and the well-being of Tohno-Chan.
>> No. 38446 [Edit]
>>38443
It's not a christian thing .
I dislike christians as much as homos. You've been recognized as mentally ill since before christianity even existed.
>> No. 38447 [Edit]
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I have a stupid pleather chair that is disintegrating into carcinogenic bits all over my room. How on earth is this legal to sell.
>> No. 38449 [Edit]
>>38447
Ditch it and get a decent used one. The ones from brands like steelcase are overhyped and overpriced, but you can get lesser known but still good ones for ~$150 which is a fair price I think.
>> No. 38451 [Edit]
>>38447
I've had a chair and couch do that. It's horrible and there's really nothing you can do about it once that stuff starts to come off. I've tried fighting it with glue and only made things worse. Best bet is to just toss the thing out before it makes even more of a mess.
If money is tight or you're really attached to it, maybe take it out someday and peel/scrape off every corner of the thing yourself.
>> No. 38452 [Edit]
>>38443
Did you not read the disclaimer, friend?
>> No. 38453 [Edit]
>>38449
>>38451
I think I have an unassembled one somewhere that isn't made of this hellish stuff.
I just feel bad about throwing away a structurally functional chair, the lifting mechanism is so clever, and I couldn't fabricate one of these no matter the amount of time you gave me, what an environmentally unfriendly waste. I probably will throw it away though.
>and peel/scrape off every corner of the thing yourself.
I tried! Bad idea. The material underneath is slowly dissolving.Into dust this time, instead of flakes. Evil.
>> No. 38454 [Edit]
>>38453
>The material underneath is slowly dissolving.
Is it the foam like material holding the fake leather to the fabric?
>> No. 38455 [Edit]
>>38454
Oh you are right, it's just a layer of foam and the fabric underneath is felt like stuff. Maybe that won't dissolve.
>> No. 38456 [Edit]
>>38455
the fabric should hold up fine. It'd be a messy job but all that fake leather and foam adhesive stuff can be scrapped off. Tends to stick a bit more where there's stitching though.
>> No. 38457 [Edit]
>>38456
Sounds like you managed to rescue some pleather furniture? That's pretty neat.
I'm now just puzzled though. The product would obviously be more valuable if they skipped the layer of crap on top and it was just a fabric chair.
>> No. 38458 [Edit]
>>38457
There's tons of products of all kinds on the market which have dumb finishing touches added on just to move the product off shelves.
I'm reminded of glossy monitors made to look shiny and nice on display, but produce annoying reflections and glare during actual use. Just yesterday I was watching a review of an axe in which the guy had to scrape and peel off all the shiny coating on the handle so he could oil it proper.
If you put a chair that looks like leather next to the same chair with just fabric in a furniture store, people are likely going to find the leather looking one more appealing and pay more for it. Hell you can tell them it's fake leather and they'll still find it more appealing. By the time they learn their lesson the warranty might be up.
>> No. 38459 [Edit]
>>38458
Also getting real common with stuff that isn't electronic getting electronic bits tacked on to it.

Post edited on 28th Jun 2021, 10:01am
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>>38446
The Christianity you speak of must be a very new thing, then. Homosexuality only became subject of research in medicine and psychiatry in 19th century, competing for jurisdiction over its definition with law and religion. Freud argued bisexuality is the natural orientation of human, thwarted only by society. It became considered a disorder in 1950s thanks to one influential crook notable only for his obsession with conversion therapy, and no longer considered one not even 25 years later. Third Reich targeted LGBT people for ideological reasons, taking a step from the norms at that time into a very dire direction.
Homosexuality was accepted and expected in Ancient Near East[AME], which was surrounding Israel. Israel is source of the scriptures that forbade certain sexual acts to differentiate themselves from pagan Egyptians and Canaanites.[Levictus 18] These specific scriptures, and rewriting and reinterpretation (mistranslation) of other parts of Bible, are the source of further laws, all taking their source in Christianity.
[AME]: http://epistle.us/hbarticles/neareast.html
It proves that condemnation for homosexuality is not older than Judaism, which Christianity is just a form of.
So, no, believing something doesn't make it true. I'm happy to hear if you are able to prove me otherwise, though.

As for other cultures and continents, both Americas haven't had concept of binary sexuality and various forms of homosexuality were common and accepted. It includes Native American, First Nations, Aztecs, Mayans, Quechuas, Moches, Zapotecs, and the Tupinambá of Brazil. Condemnation came with Spanish conquerors.
Same for South Asia: Hindu have same-sex relationships described in Kama Sutra, using term "tritiya prakriti" lit. "third nature" (which is not pejorative like "kliba") and describes two types of sexuality (where a man behaves like a woman, and second where a woman behaves like a man);
South Pacific: same-sex relationships were integral part of many cultures of Melanesia[Herdt 1984], hostility came with Christian missionaries;
Europe: Ancient Greece did not have concept of sexuality. Similarly to Ancient Near East, they only concerned themselves with dominance and submissiveness, same-sex relationships played a vital role in the society; Latin also lacks terms to describe these concepts, Romans enjoyed sex with both men and women; only later Christianity brought condemnation of the acts;
Africa: Egypt is the source of the earliest documented same-sex relationship dated to 25th century BCE, Levictus 18 suggest that such practices were also common in later times;
Last but not least, since it relates to Japan, same-sex love has been documented in East Asia. Homosexuality in Japan only started to be discouraged during Meiji period due to westernization.
[Herdt 1984]: https://archive.org/details/ritualizedhomose0000unse

I see the "husbando" bait (for a lack of better description) works perfectly to make you start calling me mentally ill, showing your true colors. If you are American, your whole worldview is warped by American Christianity, whether you like it or not.
The topic might be better suited for /tat/, but I don't believe either of us has any will to engage in further discussion to challenge either of our views.
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>>38444
>>38445
>getting it off our chest 3.0
I think both of us achieved what we wanted.
The original post was only much needed context. The reply wasn't targeted at anyone in particular, just the view and mindset. I don't see need for appeal to authority.
>> No. 38471 [Edit]
>>38470
>>>/ot/32508
>You know, in the FAQ on the front page, where it says:
>"Q: Someone posted something I don't like, what should I do? A: Whine and complain, call the person a normalfag, or report the post."

>That's actually satire, not something meant to be taken literally.
>> No. 38472 [Edit]
>>38469
>but I don't believe either of us has any will to engage in further discussion to challenge either of our views.
Boy are you right, let's leave it to the reader and their ability to discern what's true.
>> No. 38473 [Edit]
>>38469
I agree that it is much more widespread in early civilizations than a blanket statement such as the one he made warrented but you also have added some fairly problematic arguments.

Greece and Rome are nowhere near as simple and gay friendly as you describe. Being on the receiving end in Rome was illegal for a citizen and judging by the mud they flung at Nero and Tiberius it was not seen as a positive thing in general either. Greece is a big place, well it is a big place in that it had many independent states with different values and ideologies. So like the the other poster you are making huge blanket statements. The Spartans were disgusted by it, it was accepted in Athens but it was paedophilic in nature. In Japan as well it was paedophilic, more so than it was in Athens and it was also shamefull and illegal to sleep with a man(as in an actual man not a boy). I would not bring up Freud either, he is nuts.

Post edited on 28th Jun 2021, 9:43pm
>> No. 38477 [Edit]
Youtube alternatives are awful. Bitchute is just american politics and Odysee is bound to only promote trash due to its "boosting" system where you use their crypto to promote videos.
>> No. 38478 [Edit]
>>38477
There's also freespeechtube, but I don't really use it last time I even checked on it was years ago. It doesn't look very interesting. I'm surprised it's still alive.
>> No. 38479 [Edit]
>>38477
There's PeerTube, but it is quite slow and clunky on my machine.
I switched to looking for content in text format and since then I haven't opened YouTube even once. I still do download videos linked on other sites with youtube-dl.
>> No. 38481 [Edit]
>>38478
Yup it's mostly dead.
>>38479
I guess I'll do the same. I usually prefer listening to the person since it gives you more hints on whether you are paying attention to a crazy person.
Maybe I just need to try and make stuff instead of "consuming"
>> No. 38489 [Edit]
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It's kind of annoying when you're reading a book or watching something, and you're confronted with the author's ignorance about something. Like in Harry Potter, math isn't a subject taught to students. At best, they have number fortune telling. The obvious reason for this is that J K Rowling is a middle aged women who doesn't know anything about math or how integral it is to the world. A writer who did know that might have done something creative with the concept of math and wizards, but she wrote it out of her world entirely even though the story is about a school. I think to be a great writer, you have to have broad knowledge and be willing to research things.
>> No. 38490 [Edit]
>>38489
I've seen people mock and criticize Hogwarts a lot over the years for not teaching math, among other subjects. It's like they're raising generations of morons.
>> No. 38491 [Edit]
>>38490
And they have a misplaced sense of superiority too. Muggles went to the moon and could easily kill all of them with modern weaponry.
>> No. 38493 [Edit]
>>38489
I think that example is annoying but it's relatively harmless compared to the norm. It's not like she is adding Maths into the books but has no understanding of it so every calculation she puts in is wrong, which is essentially what a great many authors do. She just leaves it out. I think it depends on what they are actually teaching them to become as well and what jobs they expect them to have. I never finished all the books or movies so I don't know what they actually end up doing but if they are just mixing potions and fortune telling then elementary school maths should be fine.

>>38491
Maybe they went there with Kraut Space Magick and Neil Armstrong was a wizard and Nuclear bombs are magic too.
>> No. 38494 [Edit]
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At least 70% of discussion on any /tg/ board is about role playing, hyper-commercial crap like war hammer, or the kind of throw away board games released all the time. The t in tg stands for traditional, not table-top, but there's nothing traditional about these three types of games.

There's very little place for people to talk about traditional games as everybody who doesn't use imageboards understands them. I can't relate to most discussion because I have nearly zero experience with those three types people actually talk about.
>> No. 38495 [Edit]
>>38494
It's funny you should say that. The first time I went to an anime con, I got a bit excited when I saw they had table top games, and I assumed it would be stuff like board games. Then I got there and saw nothing but a bunch of fat nerds whipping their decks out, comparing deck sizes, rubbing their decks together and covering each other in mana. It was very disappointing, I quickly learned that's all table top means to the average person.
>> No. 38496 [Edit]
I've been living on the streets for a while, which means using lots of public restrooms. You know what drives me nuts? Assholes keep pissing all over the seats!
Even when urinals I available, I've seen/heard people use toilets to take leaks and they never lift the seats when they do. Just use a fucking urinal you insecure faggots, no one cares if you have a baby dick!
>> No. 38497 [Edit]
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I've complained about this before, but it's fucking maddening. Why are smartphones such massive pieces of shit? Why is it so difficult just to get a god damn picture from your phone to your computer? USB-C ports are shit. They are not reliable or durable in the slightest. My phone doesn't even charge anymore unless I mess around with its physical position just right, and forget about using that port to transfer files. It got this problem only a few months after buying it and it's supposed to be a top of the line samsung model.

Bluetooth sucks too. It's like it's psychic. Every single time I really need it, it doesn't work. It just doesn't. It works reliably for wireless earbuds, but for some reason, not file transfer. Who makes this crap? Who goes out of their way to make such bad technology and then has the gall to pretend it's the holy grail?

I think they make it crap on purpose. They want you to use the cloud for everything, but the cloud is slow as hell among other problems. Uploading anything to the cloud is slow as hell, so it's not even convenient. Maybe it's just my connection, but that's still bullshit since I have no better options. Meanwhile, my camera from 2006 doesn't have this problem. It has removable storage, an sd card slot, like phones used to. I can take a picture and get it on my computer in literal seconds. Only problem is the resolution sucks.

This should not be a problem. You can't justify it by saying phones have to be small or whatever. Screens are massive now, so keeping your phone in your pant's pockets isn't comfortable at all anyway. Consumer technology has regressed.
>> No. 38498 [Edit]
>>38497
>Why is it so difficult just to get a god damn picture from your phone to your computer
I always just email it to myself. Still the easiest way I know. There's also https://justbeamit.com/ which uses webrtc to transfer files without needing to upload to a 3rd party server, but I can never remember the URL.

On a technical level, blame the fact that MTP is a garbage protocol that for some reason Android has adopted, and for which support varies between platforms (almost universally a terrible experience though). Back in the day (~Gingerbread era) things used to actually work because phones had a USB mass storage mode and it would show up just as a regular thumb drive on any platform and work flawlessly. But apparently that was deemed obsolete by the gods at Google or something. As far as usb-c ports themselves, they're at least better than micro-usb which had a much higher failure rate. Lightning is probably the best cable I've seen in terms of sturdiness but that's apple only.

Agree on bluetooth, and the reason why it doesn't work is because everyone cheaps out on the hardware and doesn't bother about implementing the software stack. Bluetooth stacks on windows are known to be terrible, and forget about having it be reliable on linux. I think osx is ok here, but probably only because they support one configuration so all the workarounds are known. And not only do manufacturers cheap out on hardware, but bluetooth itself is comprised of serveral protocols (e.g. audio via SBC or APT-X, file transfer, etc.) and a lot of manufacturers only implement the audio protocols because that's what most people use. Besides, bluetooth is way too low bandwidth anyway so transferring files will be a miserable experience.
>> No. 38499 [Edit]
>>38498
>email
Email is pretty reliable, but there's limits to file size and there's a delay between sending and receiving it. If you need that file on your pc NOW, it's not a good option either.
>https://justbeamit.com/
I just tried this with my pc to my phone, and it failed for some reason. Even if it did work, to do it the other way, I'd need to input the url manually, or send it, or try and get qr codes to work on my pc.

Post edited on 6th Jul 2021, 2:03pm
>> No. 38500 [Edit]
>>38497
>Why is it so difficult just to get a god damn picture from your phone to your computer
No kidding. This is why I use a personal discord server to upload photos to, then save them on the desktop app.
I used to use the imgur app for this but that broke.
>> No. 38501 [Edit]
>>38499
> and there's a delay between sending and receiving it
What email provider are you using? Gmail is < 1 min delay.

And looking again at the justbeamit site, I'm actually not sure it's using strictly webrtc, so I'm not sure there's no 3rd party server involved.
>> No. 38502 [Edit]
>>38497
I personally use ADB to transfer files and it isn't difficult to use in my opinion. It being a command-line program may not appeal to some people but I like the tab completion feature.
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>>38501
Maybe it's because I use an email client(thunderbird).
>>38502
>isn't difficult to use
>command-line program
There's no such thing as a command line with no learning curve, and for this purpose I don't feel like putting in that much effort or that I should have to. The prospect of using a touch screen keyboard to type something into a command prompt also sends shivers down my spine.

Next time I get a new phone, it needs to have removable storage. I wont settle for less. I need something as reliable, simple and fast as possible.

Post edited on 6th Jul 2021, 6:46pm
>> No. 38504 [Edit]
>>38502
Good point, I forgot about adb. But honestly transferring files via CLI is a pain compared to using a gui for this purpose. Especially when you're used to graphical conveniences like file preview.

For the technically minded, there's a fuse filesystem that uses adb under the hood which is reportedly more stable than mtp. But that's still ugly.

>>38503
There are also solutions of installing an app to allow you to connect to your phone over ftp or smb (be sure to get your app from fdroid so the source can be vetted though) [1]

[1] https://f-droid.org/en/packages/be.ppareit.swiftp_free/
>> No. 38506 [Edit]
>>38503
>using a touch screen keyboard to type something into a command prompt
You only need to plug your phone into your computer and run adb from your computer.

>>38504
>But honestly transferring files via CLI is a pain compared to using a gui for this purpose. Especially when you're used to graphical conveniences like file preview.
I agree with this, but adb is good enough for my use case. Tab completion alleviates that pain to some degree.
>> No. 38507 [Edit]
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I don't post on imageboards at all anymore, and I sort of feel guilty for contributing to the rot and the userbase anemia of the medium.

It makes me sort of glum to see TC so deserted, I can see posts I made before I left on some of the slower boards but I'm glad people are finally posting on /an/ again. I hope the site migrated into the IRC as many other imageboards have.
I didn't mean to come off critical of the current state of the site or anything, if anything I feel partly responsible for the desolate feeling a lot of boards have.

I don't know if I will start again, it feels like a lost cause at this point and always leaves me feeling more depressed than normal because of the wistful nature of a lot of communities these days.
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>>38496
I hope everything is OK with you, anon.
>> No. 38510 [Edit]
>>38507
Personally I barely spend time in hobbies anymore so I don't feel inclined to talk about them, it makes me feel bad in a particular way I don't really know how to describe. I guess I'm not the only case and that would explain why we have more depressing-posting than anything else, it must be part of growing up.
>> No. 38511 [Edit]
>>38506
>You only need to plug your phone into your computer and run adb from your computer.
If I could do that, I would just transfer the files through the cable. The only thing that port works for(if I mess around with it enough) is charging.

>>38504
>over ftp or smb
I guess I'll try that.
>> No. 38512 [Edit]
>>38506
>>38511
There's adb over wifi as well actually.

>>38507
I'll take quality over quantity any day, and tc still has the best snr ratio I've seen.
>> No. 38513 [Edit]
It really bothers me how irritated I get over things, sometimes. My head can reason out why I shouldn't be, and I genuinely believe that...-But, it's like my body can't put it to rest.
(´。・ △ ・。` )⁾⁾

I don't show it, but I'm honestly seething sometimes, and realizing that bothers me even more. I think, "maybe I'm really not a good person".

Really, so many pointless things irritate me.
>> No. 38514 [Edit]
"Open relationship" is one of the most disgusting combination of words I can think of.
>> No. 38515 [Edit]
>>38514
If it makes you feel any better "open relationships" are often just a polite/politically correct way to describe consensual cuckold relationship/swinging/group arrangements etc. Most of the shit people go on about it are just attempting justifying it non-sexually/trying to rationalize it but they know deep down that it's a fetish.
>> No. 38516 [Edit]
>>38515
That contributes to it being disgusting.
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Who the fuck did this? Who designed this? Which mental midgets at google thought this was an improvement?
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>>38514
"Relationship" already feels disgusting to me.
>> No. 38519 [Edit]
>>38517
I think they want to increase comment engagement
>> No. 38520 [Edit]
>>38517
??? I don't understand. what that is meant to be and what the issue is.
>> No. 38521 [Edit]
>>38520
Recent change to the youtube ui. They've made the title of every video bold, centered the menu, combined the metadata(date, views and description) into one line, and added a box below that to display the most liked comment.

Post edited on 10th Jul 2021, 8:47am
>> No. 38522 [Edit]
>>38521
Use invidious. The only annoying part is instances going offline or out of date.
>> No. 38523 [Edit]
>>38517
It looks like it is designed for tablet PCs.
>> No. 38524 [Edit]
>>38523
I guess they don't want to maintain a mobile version, so instead they'll drag everybody into the hell that is "smart-phone friendly" design.
>> No. 38530 [Edit]
>>38509
Could be worse. "living on the streets" makes it sound worse than it really is.
>> No. 38531 [Edit]
>>38530
What's your hygiene situation?
>> No. 38532 [Edit]
>>38531
I'm able to take showers nearly everyday. It's been a while since I've been in a situation where I couldn't.
>> No. 38533 [Edit]
>>38532
How do you deal with the lack of privacy?
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>>38533
Again I think living on the streets was misleading. I'm living in a motorhome. Privacy could be better but when I lock myself in it's little room with it's block off windows it's easy to forget where I am, even if that location is on the side of the road, a parking lot, or a dirt field.
>> No. 38535 [Edit]
>>38534
I suspected it was you, Tohno...
>> No. 38536 [Edit]
>>38535
You got me...
>> No. 38541 [Edit]
Repetitive greek symbols in various fields. Just make a new symbol for that specific usage. It's like the least difficult part and people somehow managed to make it needlessly confusing.
>> No. 38542 [Edit]
>>38541
Huh? Instead of choosing an existing symbol which usually already has established conventions (e.g. theta = angle, psi = wavefunction, etc.) you're proposing to create an entirely new symbol each time? I don't see how that's any better, and it's going to make things physically harder to read since you have to lex these previously unknown symbols.
>> No. 38543 [Edit]
>>38542
Here are some of the things lower case pi can represent
>The mathematical real transcendental (and thus irrational) constant π ≈ 3.14159...
>The prime-counting function in mathematics.
>Homotopy groups in algebraic topology.
>Dimensionless parameters constructed using the Buckingham π theorem of dimensional analysis.
>The hadron called the pion (pi meson).
>Economic profit in microeconomics.
>Inflation rate in macroeconomics.
>A type of chemical bond in which the p orbitals overlap, called a pi bond.
>The natural projection on the tangent bundle on a manifold.
>The unary operation of projection in relational algebra.
>Policy in reinforcement learning.
When looking at an equation, I'd rather know exactly what it is because the symbols are unique than rely on context. There's a reason programmers use every variable in one way and one way only. Yes they make a new variable for every usage.

Post edited on 14th Jul 2021, 2:50pm
>> No. 38544 [Edit]
>>38543
Yes all of those are true, but it's usually clear from context. If you're reading an ML paper and you suddenly see π, you can bet it's not going to refer to bonds.

In some sense this is just convention you have to familiarize yourself with. Assigning a new symbol each time seems strictly worse to me because it's like reading a new language every time, it's harder to physically recognize the symbols. E.g. if we started randomly using kana characters or wingdings so that we can assign a unique symbol, it's going to take you about three times as long just to physically parse it. All your muscle memory on recognizing glyphs goes out the window, all for not much benefit in the first place since it only marginally benefits those who are new to the field.

There are larger fish to fry. You could take issue with the overloaded use of the word "normal" in mathematics. Normal distribution? Normal vector? Normal subgroup? These are much more ambiguous, and unlike π where it is clear just from the context whether it's being used to mean the irrational number, or as a function, "normal" as an adjective so overloaded that you can't really tell at a glance.
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I hate ragefags and I hate how common it is to tolerate them. The type of people who type in all caps and fly off the handle at the slightest of slight provocations. They actively look for more things to get pissed off about and give them an excuse to antagonize others. Not only do they never produce anything worthwhile themselves, they actively make things worse for others.

It takes just one of these cancerous lumps of bitterness and spite to ruin a place. And yet mods don't care 9/10 times. Mandating the most basic level of civilized behavior is seen as an over step on imageboards. It makes no sense. Websites that are about having fun have no interest in keeping people like that around.
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Recently I've been playing an rpg. I don't play them often, but when I do, I spend entire days sucked in. Thinking about why I do this, I realized it's because these games and their stories are so much more interesting than my own life and real in general, I'd rather live in them to the point of ignoring my actual life.

The question is, how'd people ever even conceive of something so much more interesting than reality? Where did they get the ideas from? In any game dungeon, you can walk around and find all sorts of interesting things left by other people or just naturally there. Real life caves are pretty much nothing like this.

So how'd someone get the idea to make an interesting cave?
>> No. 38611 [Edit]
People who talk to themselves out loud. Especially around other people.

All three of my roommates do it. It has to be the single most obnoxious non-violent habit that a person could ever have. The people who do it have no reason to do so, and it's offensive and inconsiderate. I grew up with just one parent who didn't speak unless they were speaking to me, and so I naturally stay quiet. Hearing a voice makes me thinks something is happening and it raises my anxiety significantly any time it's happening.
>> No. 38612 [Edit]
>>38145
I completely sympathize with you, anon. People are inconsiderate and disrespectful. I wish every single person in the modern western world could experience a week of what it's like to be a neurotic and noise etc sensitive person. They would suffer so much, but the world would be better off for it.
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"Realistic" military combat is an awful premise for games and the culture that's formed around them is one of the most noxious hell pits of faggotry ever. In real life, "camping" is the go to strategy, but people endlessly bitch about it being done in video games among other "unfair" tactics(offensively sniping). You never see chess players complain about forking.

It's almost like real life combat is boring as hell + luck-based and video game designers should be blamed instead of players for easy exploitation.

The whole aesthetic is ugly as hell too. People waste hundreds of dollars to feel like they're in the middle of a dirty, decrepit shit hole. It doesn't make sense.

Post edited on 24th Aug 2021, 1:56am
>> No. 38655 [Edit]
>>38654
I agree, and I think I saw a lot of the same sentiment when Day Z was at the height of it's popularity. The general consensus seemed to be that no one cared about the boring and lame arma until that mod came along, and that it was the only reason most people even bought the game.

I think people are drawn to those types of games because it's a sort of Disneyland grade facade. See, these parks have various themed areas and rides to match, they let people feel like they're in the middle of a jungle or alien world while still being (mostly)safe and comfortable. I've noticed las vegas does the same thing. One of many examples is the location based on Venice, which of course focuses on the best and most romanticized parts, and even has gondoliers who aren't massive duchbags who treat you like cattle. One of my favorite spots to hit while there is a facade that mimics the streets of newyork, but without all the hobos and taxies and constant fear of being mugged.
The point being, these people can pretend to be soldiers, get a taste of that feeling, without having to do any of the hard work or step out of their comfort zone.

Very related:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuTkgi7scKo
>> No. 38660 [Edit]
>>38654
In real combat most of the time you wouldnt be able to see who you are shooting and the people shooting you wouldn't be able to see you. Its pretty lame.

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