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35526 No. 35526 [Edit]
Which other imageboards do you go to?
desuchan?
uboachan.net/ot/?
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>> No. 35527 [Edit]
None really.
>> No. 35528 [Edit]
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35528
I check 4taba.net occasionally. Used to use uboachan, but it's become pretty shit.
>> No. 35532 [Edit]
>>35528
https://uboachan.net/ot/ just needs a push; same with wizchan
>> No. 35533 [Edit]
>>35532
Last time I saw wizchan it was both fast and garbage, seems like it already got a push but for the worse.
>> No. 35534 [Edit]
A few boards on what is known as the "webring" these days. A bunch of 8ch spinoffs that are forever stuck in the swamp of infighting.
>> No. 35536 [Edit]
>>35532
You can't fix a shitty owner.
>> No. 35541 [Edit]
Is 420chan worth trying?
>> No. 35542 [Edit]
>>35541
Sure, if you like hanging out with braindead lefty drogados.
>> No. 35547 [Edit]
>>35532
As far as I know wizchan bans people like me and only welcomes those engaging in fantasy monk role playing contest for the title of 'true wizard'.
>> No. 35548 [Edit]
>>35547
That's true, I got banned like that. Most funny thing is I suspect the "true wizards" were 20 yo or younger laughing their asses off of a few 30 yo virgins.
>> No. 35549 [Edit]
>>35541
420chan is insufferable. Their average IQ is probably like 10 points lower than on other imageboards. Maybe it's because of the sustained drug abuse over the course of decades.
>> No. 35550 [Edit]
>>35547
The fact that wizchan has a /b/ board (which is probably the most active board on the site and has the quality you'd expect from a /b/ tells you everything you need to know about their main userbase).
>> No. 35551 [Edit]
>>35547
I only use wizchan for the anime board because I like to share my thoughts on whatever I'm watching, sometimes I also use the hobby one to share my figures. Anything else is not worth browsing because they immediatly get angry if you don't pretend that you're a virgin purely by choice.
>> No. 35552 [Edit]
>>35551
Tohno-chan has an anime board. Why use two?
>Anything else is not worth browsing because they immediatly get angry if you don't pretend that you're a virgin purely by choice.
How does that ever come up in conversation?
>> No. 35563 [Edit]
>>35552
>How does that ever come up in conversation?

It's the only thing you can talk about since literally everything else in existence is "normalfag shit".
>> No. 35593 [Edit]
>>35532
Uboachan has been dead for close to a decade. I don't lurk wizchan, but wasn't there a huge controversy with data-mining and ownership transferal there?

>>35552
I'm not the person you're responding to, but the rate of posting on /an/ (and Tohno-chan as a whole) is not sustainable enough to be my only source of information. The posts here are more insightful and well-spoken than other imageboards, but that comes at the cost of being able to essentially 'finish' the board once all 24 pages are read because new threads are a rare occurrence. Either way it's better than the alternative, since larger imageboards have zero quality control and their /a/-equivalent boards are almost always filled with children and secondary otaku.
>> No. 35618 [Edit]
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>>35527
Except this one, right?
>> No. 35621 [Edit]
>>35593
Maybe...
https://uboachan.net/ot/res/20703.html
>> No. 35632 [Edit]
>>35528
>4taba.net
Nevermind. There's only 2 stated rules, but the mods use unwritten rules too. They don't even have the courtesy to tell you why were banned. Avoid.
>> No. 35633 [Edit]
>>35632
>They don't even have the courtesy to tell you why were banned.
I've noticed this is common practice even among established companies. The explanation/justification for it is to avoid making it easier for ban evaders to ban evade.
Which I think is fucking stupid. The whole point of having rules is so people follow them, and if someone who was previously banned decide to follow the rules then what's the problem?
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>>35633
>what's the problem?
Elitism. I see "gatekeeping" as a good thing generally, but it's one thing when there's detailed rules and people get told which they broke, it's another when there appears to be no rules, but certain things are implicitly off-limits and you get banned if you don't "feel the vibe" correctly and act accordingly. An imageboard's demographic and stance on certain things should be transparent.
>if someone who was previously banned decide to follow the rules
I don't even know if it's permanent or not.

Post edited on 10th Aug 2020, 10:30am
>> No. 35664 [Edit]
Anime about GateKeepers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vety5UgVbLU
>> No. 35689 [Edit]
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35689
Since I'm an Spanish speaker I use Wired-7. It has some Lainchan vibes and I find it pretty high quality compared to other Spanish imageboards.
https://wired-7.org/
>> No. 35690 [Edit]
>>35689
Are you posting in /tower/ too?
>> No. 35691 [Edit]
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>>35690
Haven't posted there in months. Why do you ask?
>> No. 35692 [Edit]
>>35691
Sorry, don't mind me.
>> No. 35701 [Edit]
>>35691
Bad-girl Biribiri is hawt. Should be a vodka bottle edit though. Haha.
>> No. 35744 [Edit]
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I just want a anonymous forum where people are mostly polite....
>> No. 35769 [Edit]
Posting slowly is preferred here...
>> No. 35770 [Edit]
Samachan but it's gone now.
>> No. 35775 [Edit]
>>35770
I really miss Samachan, wish it didn't go under but damn.
>> No. 35776 [Edit]
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>>35770
>>35775
I looked at it a few times. The range of potential discussion topics was too limited for my taste.
>> No. 35777 [Edit]
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>>35775
Me too, there have been no other sites like it.

>>35776
That's a plus for me, less is more. Nice picture btw.
>> No. 35978 [Edit]
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35978
https://zzzchan.xyz/ is new...
>> No. 35979 [Edit]
>>35978
Looks like 8chan spin-off #3434234
>> No. 36026 [Edit]
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>>35979
8-chan is gone, man.
>> No. 36053 [Edit]
>>36026
8chan.moe
8chan.se
8chan.cc
>> No. 36159 [Edit]
>>36053
that's like that one kid trying to say his yugioh counterfait cards were the real deal
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>>36053
Splitting up a userbase that had fewer than 500 users must be tough.
>> No. 36217 [Edit]
Is this any good? http://4-ch.net
>> No. 36218 [Edit]
>>35770
>>35775
Most of its userbase migrated to sushi. At the same time I'm glad they shut it down if they didn't enjoy it anymore.
>>36217
Everything outside of /dqn/ is extremely slow. /dqn/ depends on person to person.
>> No. 36220 [Edit]
>>36218
/iaa/ and /net/ (internet addicts and internet culture) respectively are of decent quality. But yes they're quite slow.
>> No. 36221 [Edit]
>>36218
That's a terrible site and I'm not sure "most" of the userbase migrated there.
>> No. 36222 [Edit]
>>36220
I don't understand why both /net/ and /iaa/ exist except that they both have mid 2000s posts on them that are weirdly prophetic.
>>36221
Never used it, but thats what I heard.
>> No. 36231 [Edit]
>>36221
What makes it terrible?
>> No. 36234 [Edit]
>>36231
It's nothing like Samachan. It goes against the few things Samachan tries to enforce.
>> No. 36244 [Edit]
>>36231
It's run by the same cali, druggie normalfag as uboachan.
>> No. 36351 [Edit]
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>>36160
That comment made me chuckle.
>> No. 37230 [Edit]
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>>35689
lainchan.org
>> No. 37431 [Edit]
>>35526
7chan. It's pretty fucking terrible, but at least it has an actual board, not just a bunch of immobile esoteric topic-logs.
>> No. 37493 [Edit]
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>>35618
That I am...
>> No. 37556 [Edit]
>>37433
An interesting collection of boards there. I like zzzchan's /r9k/ as well. Looking at neet.moe, I remember that it's a site I visited once and bounced off immediately. I detest that posting style of /r9k/ polluting an /a/ board where you have this pervasive sentiment of "Wah, I don't like anime anymore and it's anime's fault", people applying anti 3DPD logic to all of 2D, and just in general people who hate anime talking about anime. I visited wizchan's /a/ some time ago and immediately bounced off too, should have seen that coming. One of the reasons zzzchan's /r9k/ is a decent place is that they don't talk much about anime.
>> No. 37559 [Edit]
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>>37556
>pervasive sentiment of "Wah, I don't like anime anymore and it's anime's fault"
I think that started somewhat recently. (Or recently for me, at least. My perception of time is messed up.) I don't appreciate it either but I can tell him and the other angry guy is probably just the start of the board's decline while the mod or admin will probably stand by and do nothing as usual or drag their feet for anything.
>people applying anti 3DPD logic to all of 2D
I might have been one of those people. I know for sure I made the post about main characters getting bullied by the girls for not being perfect. Not sure what else you might mean though and I'm not sure why anti-3dpd would be bad on imageboards when they probably need it now more than ever.
>One of the reasons zzzchan's /r9k/ is a decent place is that they don't talk much about anime.
I've thought about posting about it there myself but I don't trust I won't get shouted at over something minor. Their /r9k/ has had a habit of getting into arguments often and I just don't want to deal with someone laser focusing on a single minor point.
>> No. 37560 [Edit]
>>37556
neet.moe seems like it could have had potential if it was managed properly, but every other post on their is about 3D. Wizchan's /a/ equivalent is at least on-topic but the shows that get threads there don't overlap with my taste and I generally detest the wizchan userbase anyway.
>> No. 37561 [Edit]
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37561
>>37433
>>37556
I checked it out. Most anons there seem like perpetually pms riddled, self-deprecating assholes with some pol shit mixed in. It's ironic that people who call themselves robots complain so much. What's the appeal?
>> No. 37563 [Edit]
>>37561
Not him but I didn't find that r9k much appealing either (in fact at this point I'm wary of any r9k board since the topics discussed either devolve into discussion of 3D (all the while they loudly proclaim not to be a harbor for such discussions), or discussion of normalfags (while occasional discussion is fine, threads solely focused on how "superior" they are to normalfags are inane). And the fact that it's yet another lynxchan instance was already a bad sign (the "feature" that allows for attaching multiple images to a post is a great way to absolutely kill discussion and turn threads into imagedumps) ).

Post edited on 5th Feb 2021, 5:23pm
>> No. 37565 [Edit]
>>37563
/r9k/ is a board about nothing really. It was like that from its inception. No other board has as much of an identity crisis.
>> No. 37566 [Edit]
>>37565
r9k was originally spawned out of one of the xkcd guy's suggestions, right [1]? It's hilarious in retrospect how wrong that hypothesis was. The space of "garbage discourse" is so vast that just preventing duplicate lines isn't enough. Also if none of the r9k spinoffs implement the filtering then there's not much point calling it r9k in the first place.

[1] https://blog.xkcd.com/2008/01/14/robot9000-and-xkcd-signal-attacking-noise-in-chat/
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>>37561
>what's the appeal
A place for robots to post at all without being 4/r9k/.
>> No. 37578 [Edit]
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>>37560
NEET very rarely posts about 3D, and are mostly joking because they are usually very playful there and know how to self-moderate. The bigger issue with it is that it gets only handfuls of posts a year, which is fitting for the userbase.
>>36217
/dqn/ is an acquired taste. 4-ch is pretty notable for it's relative immortality compared to its contemporaries.
>>37433
>smugloli
Oh, man, those first few general interest threads when 8chan went down were real fun. Don't know if it's still fun like that. Seeing how anemic the userbase of that webring is depressing.

Robots are a whole other discussion, they can be chill but a whole lot of things come with them, good and bad and it's interesting how polemic wizardchan is among western imageboard fans.
>> No. 37582 [Edit]
>>37433
I'll lurk their /r9k/ just because I would like to find a decent /r9k/ again. I actually thought the original discussions of how an extreme "outcast" group had been created in a certain generation was pretty interesting. I feep pike there's a pretty small window of time between maybe 2000 and 2010 where people hitting puberty had a chance to just become complete social dropouts in a way that you don't see anymore. It's weird how kids don't even have a chance of not being accepted by some group to some degree now. I wonder how much the internet taking over every aspect of life had to do with it. I see all these discords where even the biggest autist teenager can find people, and it amazes me. When I was a teenager I just didn't have anyone and that was that. I don't resent it, it just amazes me. I'm aware that in the 80s and 90s it existed but there was no great awareness of it outside of close hobby circles.
>> No. 37584 [Edit]
>>37582
>there's a pretty small window of time between maybe 2000 and 2010 where people hitting puberty had a chance to just become complete social dropouts in a way that you don't see anymore
No, some people like myself still choose not to join any group because they feel too alienated, don't want the obligation, and don't enjoy that type of interaction in the first place.
>> No. 37586 [Edit]
>>37582
>It's weird how kids don't even have a chance of not being accepted by some group to some degree now.
Man, no. You take one look at social media and every single person ever created is at each other's throats for no reason. Groups are more focused on who they kick out rather than who they let in. Everyone going "Wow we as a group are so accepting of people we like" is a front and they're bullshitting.
>> No. 37589 [Edit]
>>37566
The originality bot concept works better for chats than for imageboards, since chat messages tend to be smaller in size, their chance of being unoriginal is infinitely higher.
With imageboard posts being anywhere between 10 to 10000 symbols long, the chance of being unoriginal, unless you're doing it on purpose either to spam or to repeat some stale meme is nigh-on 0, meaning it has no real effect.
Maybe if you made the bot a lot more complicated, so instead of just banning posts that are 100% the same, it runs each post through a ML-algorithm that measures content similarity to older posts would work better, but the sheer amount of resources that'd consume make it impractical for now.
It's not even efficient spam prevention because programming spambots to add some random word in the middle somewhere is trivial.
>> No. 37591 [Edit]
>>37589
>sheer amount of resources that'd consume make it impractical for now.
Actually I think classical NLP techniques as well as "older" (relatively speaking) ML techniques can compute semantic similarity (it also goes under the name "paraphrase identification") fairly cheaply. You can see an overview of all the known techniques here [1], but clasically you could do something like tfidf, and traditional ML would be just using word2vec or similar word embedding and then using any vector similarity metric (probably the most bang-for-buck in terms of accuracy vs compute requirements).

Newer, fancier techniques would be using BERT to do the embedding.

[1] https://arxiv.org/pdf/1910.03940.pdf
>> No. 37613 [Edit]
Text-only board
https://4-ch.net/general/
>> No. 37630 [Edit]
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>>37613
It feels like 4-ch shot up in relevancy with the imageboard crowd last year or so.
Maybe because they're dropping like flies, and 4-ch is immortal, or maybe it's just interest in textboard sites and 4-ch is the fastest English one.
>> No. 37725 [Edit]
>>37630
Cos text is cheap in terms of band-width
>> No. 37726 [Edit]
>>37613
Ah fuck, I hope 4-ch doesn't get overrun.
>> No. 37727 [Edit]
>>37726
Dont worry about it, most never stay because of the slowness, and /img/ is always eh to bad.
>> No. 37799 [Edit]
Asides from a board on anon.cafe, i just sort of bounce from place to place. Most places are shit and the ones that are good have little to no activity to sustain them. I regrettably still post on 4chan because I can't bring myself to sign up for a forum just for a relatively obscure hobby.

Honestly if 4chan had died before 2010 I think imageboards would've been in a much better place right now. Everywhere seems to be dead or dying unless you're userbase is made up of the type of people who use 4chan/8chan.
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>>37799
bugmenot or use a throw-away email.
>> No. 37836 [Edit]
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>>37799
>Everywhere seems to be dead or dying unless you're userbase is made up of the type of people who use 4chan/8chan.
Aside from sites aimed at society withdrawals like this one, I think pic related is why.
Do you all agree?
>> No. 37838 [Edit]
>>37836
It's bullshit. People find time to pay attention to the news and "social issues". They find time for their social gatherings. They find time for their kids. They find time for their social media. None of these things are even half as engaging as posting on imageboards. For a person to keep up with a board and post once daily takes no more than half an hour. It's not an issue of time, it's an issue of culture.
>> No. 37839 [Edit]
>>37836
I would agree with >>37838 it's about culture. Recently a board I used to browse(merorin) that had been online for probably almost 10 years shut down out of nowhere as the owner decided to use the server for a game with his friends and was embarrassed by the site. One could see the change leading up to that moment however, first it was kind of like a cross between an /int/ and /jp/ but as time went on people started posting frogs, talking about American politics, talking about their work life and other normal topics until by the end it was just a few people blogging about work and posting the latest 4chan memes. The admin must have decided he can blog and post frogs somewhere else and that the /jp/ origin of the board was an embarrassment to him. /what/ died recently as well due to culture also, spamming had changed the board to the point that it was no longer usable.
>> No. 37841 [Edit]
>>37836
It's partly true but only because people who are both "smart and older than 21" (where I assume "smart" here means "wants good discussion and not just jokes/image macros") are few and far between. Maybe this is a biased perspective, but it's rare to find any good discussion places online; for some reason people have just accepted the shift to short-form, walled off mediums (with maybe few stragglers perhaps still clinging to usenet & bbs). So it's only natural that among that small subset even fewer care about engaging in imageboards.

>>37839
I remember my disappointment when what I thought was a Yuyushiki-centered chan turned out to be yet another /jp/ spinoff. Although I do hope that any merorin successor is called dondurma.

Post edited on 1st Mar 2021, 11:25pm
>> No. 37842 [Edit]
>>37836
It makes sense. Average imageboard has always been between 15-25 years old, older people leave at some point. But what happens if I can't or don't want to have a "real life"?
Lately I've been thinking about quitting imageboards completely. I never thought about it before but I can't help to notice I'm completely out of place and I don't get anything particularly positive from them. Mostly the opposite. But I spend lots of time in them, and it's not that easy to just do something else. Most of the time I'm extremely tired and imageboards are the kind of low effort activity I can do anytime. Even simply watching anime is too tiring for me. Also it's the only form of communication I have with other humans and the only time I can express my thoughts, and I'm a little worried about what could happen if I just cut it.
>> No. 37843 [Edit]
>>37842
>But what happens if I can't or don't want to have a "real life"?
My thoughts exactly.
>> No. 37844 [Edit]
>>37842
I don't want to leave, I really really don't, because I feel like I'll be leaving people behind. And for the most part, this is the only place I have, and it's the only place I've ever belonged. I simply don't have anywhere else to go.
>> No. 37845 [Edit]
>>37844
Sometimes you can only have one place and nowhere else to go, but at the same time you don't really belong to that place.
Do we need imageboards?
I'm not sure. Cutting all communication is scary, I think we unconsciously relate that to death. But at the same time it's a frustrating, unfulfilling and depressing activity.
>> No. 37846 [Edit]
>>37842
>it's not that easy to just do something else
Using ibs as your main online activity which probably also means your main activity in life is not the best idea. The fact you don't have energy even to consume entertainment puts you in a terrible spot. I don't think imageboards are the problem, not having anything else besides that is. But you probably already know that.

You're literally too tired to watch anime or you too bored?
>> No. 37847 [Edit]
>>37846
Tired. I can't move from bed most of my free time. I fall sleep often too, and suffer lack of focus and headaches. I have lots of tbings to do, I used to build model kits, play videogames, draw, read, but I don't have the energy to do any of those often.
What other online activities I'm supposed to spend my time with besides imageboards?
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>>37844
>And for the most part, this is the only place I have, and it's the only place I've ever belonged. I simply don't have anywhere else to go.
I don't even have that. It's just easier to pretend that I do belong here than anywhere else.
>> No. 37849 [Edit]
>>37847
Sorry to state the obvious here anon but you might have some health issues that finding other online activities won't solve it. You already mentioned you can't even watch anime anymore. I mean if you were healthier, finding something online to enjoy would be easy. You said yourself you engaged in a lot of other hobbies before.
That said, any online activity would do. Anything that interests you. For example I read manga, watch anime and LPs of Japanese rpg maker games. It's not much but it keeps me going.
>> No. 37850 [Edit]
>>37849
I have the same problem as him and physically I'm not so unhealthy that it should be physical. I think it's a form of chronic seasonal depression in my case, whenever it gets cold my brain just shuts down and I want to sleep all day.
>> No. 37920 [Edit]
https://4-ch.net/general/
Textboard
>> No. 38007 [Edit]
>>37920

Stop advertising this site you fucking faggot zoomers are cancer.
>> No. 38008 [Edit]
>>38007
it is older than tohno chan
>> No. 38009 [Edit]
>>38008

irrelevant
>> No. 38010 [Edit]
>>38008
So is twitter and facebook.
>> No. 38016 [Edit]
>>38007
Considering the thread topic is "what other imageboards" you visit, I don't think that he was advertising it.
>> No. 38027 [Edit]
>>38010

No its 2channel in English.
>> No. 38028 [Edit]
>>38016

We don't need refuges fuck off.
>> No. 38032 [Edit]
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38032
https://lolisare.fun/l
Some good stuff, and even a bit of decent oc. Would recommend.
>> No. 38082 [Edit]
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>>38032
This feels like a trap....
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>>38082
Is this enough proof it's real?
>> No. 38088 [Edit]
>>37839
At what point in time was /what/ anything other than spam? To be fair, I stopped checking it a few months after it was initally created, but back then it was nothing but some schizo faggot spamming about how he wanted to have sex with /what/min. I'm surprised it even lasted this long.
>> No. 38207 [Edit]
>>35526
lainchan
sushichan
>> No. 38558 [Edit]
I'm fascinated by 22chan and how it emulates the old internet. Really a blast from the past. Also they ban normalfags which is great.
https://22chan.org/
>> No. 38559 [Edit]
>>38558
It's hosted in Germany, so it's shit. And the superficial, "bringing back the old net" schtick is tired.
https://22chan.org/rules
>> No. 38560 [Edit]
>>38559
Reading through that list of rules, I don't understand your objections. I haven't used 22chan, so I'm interested to hear some of the meat behind your expression of distaste.

1) Why is it bad that it is hosted in Germany?
Sure, we all hate Jews... but if you need your dose of that stuff you can get it elsewhere, not everywhere needs to serve up the same material. (That 22chan had a /pol/ board until recently is certainly a strike against it, however.)

2) And the superficial, "bringing back the old net" schtick is tired.
Is this their shtick? >>38558 brings it up, but glancing through the site itself that doesn't seem to be anything they themselves are pushing for, except insofar as "old net" means avoiding the more cancerous parts of the "new net" (e.g. Rule 1). But that isn't a shtick, it's just something necessary for a site to be worth visiting.
>> No. 38561 [Edit]
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>>38560
Germany and the EU has many more restrictions on expression than that. Their policy towards loli especially is unacceptable. I have an immense contempt for the EU and their laws in general, so even hosting a website there is a level of enabling I look down on. Having a /pol/ board to begin with is also a sign of being shit, so don't be such a presumptuous faggot about other people's priorities.

Not allowing posting from a vpn is moderator over-reach in my opinion. Not only do they not allow any porn or discussion of it, they go out of their way to state it's "not comfortable" like that's a fact. People can have whatever rules they feel like on their shitty sites, but I will judge them if they can't even express those rules with professionalism and a non-judgmental tone.
>> No. 38562 [Edit]
>>38558
>I'm fascinated by 22chan and how it emulates the old internet.
It's indeed fascinating to watch them try to recreate the feel of the old internets, but they seem to focus a lot on the appearance, rather than truly recreating the atmosphere and spirit.
I can't shake the feeling like it's all just a huge LARP, and i don't even mean that in an accusatory sense.
Just with all those threads along the line of "Hey, there used to be X threads on old /b/ so let's do an X thread here!" it appears like they are frantically trying to imitate the past based on the surface level appearance, however the visible features of imageboard culture were the manifestation of a certain spirit that existed back then, and strong sense of identity, which i think is still kind of lacking on 22chan.
That being said, i don't think they are being disingenuous in their effort, just kind of lost and they seem to realize it too.
That actually makes me feel quite some sympathy towards them, since going back to the old net is something that i think of a lot, and have spent a lot of time thinking about the reasons why it all changed and how to bring it back, but still haven't really found a satisfactory answer.
However them staying clear of the cancer that is modern net culture is definitely a very good thing, and maybe, given time they will develop an actual identity that is based on the old spirit. I sure hope they will.

>>38561
>Not only do they not allow any porn or discussion of it, they go out of their way to state it's "not comfortable" like that's a fact
The wording is somewhat retarded, yes, but i can see where they are coming from with this rule. Given the regrettable state of 4chan's /b/, the desire to prevent the site devolving into a porn dump is understandable.
While i think bans should only ever be a last resort, 22chan actually trying the approach of banning porn will at least serve as a good experiment to see whether that is a viable approach to raise the quality of interaction on a random board.

I do agree however that the EU is a terrible place to host a site, and the admin choosing to bow to demands from the hoster (which was the initial reason for the ban on porn) is somewhat concerning.
>> No. 38563 [Edit]
>>38558
Seems like they're trying really hard to emulate the worst parts of back then, judging by the fact that they have a thread worshipping the Ghost Stories dub.
>> No. 38564 [Edit]
>>38561
Thanks for elaborating. I am inclined to agree with >>38562 that banning porn is an interesting experiment. More imageboards experimenting with different things is good, even if not all experiments produce positive results. And I enjoy loli artwork, but banning it isn't uncommon, and as a practical matter once porn is banned you're not missing out on that much more. Basically, I would say that not every imageboard needs to have everything, and more variety across different boards is a good thing; thus "bad" policies can be good... as long as they aren't adopted by everyone at the same time.

All of this is speaking at a purely theoretical level, since as I said I haven't spent time there. But it sounds like that makes two of us. If >>38562's description of it as just people failing to bring back old 4chan is accurate, then I probably won't spend much time there, but these descriptions are interesting enough that I may lurk for a while to see what's up.

>Having a /pol/ board to begin with is also a sign of being shit, so don't be such a presumptuous faggot about other people's priorities.
Reading comprehension.
>> No. 38565 [Edit]
I think you guys are being a bit too hard on 22chan.
Really at this point all I want from an imageboard is to talk about anime and other otaku stuff with genuine fans of that sort of thing, with a minimum of post-2007 bullshit. If it tries but fails to be exactly like the early 00s internet, fine, whatever, it'll do.
>> No. 38566 [Edit]
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>>38562
>It's indeed fascinating to watch them try to recreate the feel of the old internets, but they seem to focus a lot on the appearance, rather than truly recreating the atmosphere and spirit.
I can't shake the feeling like it's all just a huge LARP, and i don't even mean that in an accusatory sense.
Just with all those threads along the line of "Hey, there used to be X threads on old /b/ so let's do an X thread here!" it appears like they are frantically trying to imitate the past based on the surface level appearance, however the visible features of imageboard culture were the manifestation of a certain spirit that existed back then, and strong sense of identity, which i think is still kind of lacking on 22chan.
That being said, i don't think they are being disingenuous in their effort, just kind of lost and they seem to realize it too.

I get this vibe from /qa/, except they come up with new stuff well enough, but still, a lot of people have accused them of newfags pretending to be /jp/.

>That actually makes me feel quite some sympathy towards them, since going back to the old net is something that i think of a lot, and have spent a lot of time thinking about the reasons why it all changed and how to bring it back, but still haven't really found a satisfactory answer.

My hypothesis is age, how modern culture legitimized the internet as an important thing, and the fact it's the same small handful of jaded folks using these boards.

>>37920
/general/ feels so different from the rest of 4-ch that it's actually kind of odd to me.
>>35528
4taba feels like another "imposter" board, after the owner left it felt like the original spirit was gone and was left with an imitation of it.
>>37842
I hope you're doing better now, anon.
>>37844
>because I feel like I'll be leaving people behind
This is the main reason I check up on sites from time to time, I hope you're all OK. But on the other hand, many, many IB users left us behind.
>>38207
Both of these feel so abandoned these days.

Futaba is fun to look at with a translator, though a lot of the slang makes it somewhat difficult. I also like reading 2ch's big boards is fun when I want to read ネトウヨ insanity, and the smaller, slower boards have good reads sometimes, although there are many lamenting the waning userbase of the format. It's kind of funny to see, if it wasn't so sad.
I also sometimes post on a forum about a niche sport, but even there reddit seems to have taken most of the userbase, I find it bizarre how a lot of people just accept the homogenization of the internet, but it is what it is. I can never bring myself to use reddit, it's annoying to read with the way the site is set up, you can't reply to multiple people at once, and that's not even getting into the problems with upvote/downvoting and the userbases it has.
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>>38566
I think imageboards have some intrinsic, unique appeal, so it surprises me that among the constant waves of new, young people om the internet, more aren't drawn to them. Perhaps 4chan had something else that helped it take off outside of being in the right place at the right time, and more recent imageboards lack these qualities.

Most people on imageboards that aren't 4chan dislike it, and you could argue moot screwed things up by chasing popularity above preserving the site's original subject-matter and target demographic.
>> No. 38568 [Edit]
>>38566
>My hypothesis is age, how modern culture legitimized the internet as an important thing, and the fact it's the same small handful of jaded folks using these boards.
I agree, that's part of the reason, especially the second point,
but specifically the idea that the internet is an important part of the real world.
That just draws in the wrong kind of people.
However the internet was pretty important to a lot of people even back then, with communities at each others throats and constant drama and whatnot.
Yet it was still different.
I suppose it boils down to the fact that back then the internet was more fractured and diverse, thus those conflicts were just localised things, and would register as merely a curiosity outside of their respective area. Each on their own would merely be good for a laugh, but there were so many unrelated things happening all the time, that the internet itself felt fresh and alive.
Today probably 90% of the population of the internet is involved in the same topics, on the same few sites, all of which bleed over into each other, making the internet this huge monolithic blob, even if technically you have different sites.
This in turn leads to the dead and sterile feel that so many people notice.

Another thing i notice, is that people seem to have much more defined expectations of what they want out of their online interactions, and demand exactly that, over and over again. For example, my recollection of my first couple years on /b/, is that there was much more variety in threads, and while most things were not exactly to my taste, every couple minutes a new threads would pop up that caught my attention, and it would usually get responses, making the act of F5ing for hours actually worthwhile.
The last time i've been there however, it was just mostly the same stuff on the first page, and everything that did not match one of the popular topics, would just sink like a stone and be gone in minutes.

>I also sometimes post on a forum about a niche sport, but even there reddit seems to have taken most of the userbase, I find it bizarre how a lot of people just accept the homogenization of the internet
People really seem to crave a neverending loop of the same thing, and i just can't understand that.

>>38567
>I think imageboards have some intrinsic, unique appeal, so it surprises me that among the constant waves of new, young people om the internet, more aren't drawn to them. Perhaps 4chan had something else that helped it take off outside of being in the right place at the right time, and more recent imageboards lack these qualities.
4chan is massive though, and as for other imageboards, i guess it's just that 4chan is already there and it's good enough for most, so it absorbs most users, especially when most of those are hyper focused on just consuming a limited number of types of content and nothing else.
I think this trend in people is the main reason why everything gravitates to the same places, and why 4chan itself has become so homogenized.
>> No. 38569 [Edit]
>>38568
>4chan is massive though, and as for other imageboards, i guess it's just that 4chan is already there and it's good enough for most, so it absorbs most users

Do you think that if 4chan ended up kicking the bucket, it would lead to people that actually cared about imageboards seeking altchans and thus populating them? Would that lead to a positive effect?
>> No. 38570 [Edit]
>>38569
That depends on what to consider caring about imageboards. To most, i think, that just means caring about the ability to label oneself as an imageboard user.
Those are the same people that are content sitting in the same generals and posting the same old oneliners over and over, and thats what i meant by 4chan being good enough for them.
If 4chan croaked, i'm not really sure where those would go. I suppose they would eventually concentrate at another place that allows them to continue doing just that, or create a new one.
While things are still in flux however, many 4chan users would end up at least temporarily seeking out altchans, yes, and i fear the effects would be disastrous. Small altchans simply would not be able to assimilate huge amounts of new users, as the native population would find itself becoming the minority pretty quickly.
Of course, there is the possibility that the fracturing of the 4chan userbase would break the status quo and change the face of imageboard culture again, but i wouldn't really count on that, as the greater context of the internet remains the same, and the users individual environments would largely remain unchanged. There just don't seem to be many people left to whom imageboards are their primary environment, essentially.
Lots of new altchans would certainly form however, and the people who are dissatisfied with the current state of 4chan but are still stuck there for whatever reason would be forced to migrate and form new communities or join existing ones.
I guess those would be the kind of people you meant.

To answer the question, i can't really say whether the net outcome would be positive. Like with all huge stirrups there is potential for change, but also a lot of damage will be done in the process and the outcome is largely unpredictable.
Right now as i see it 4chan acts as somewhat of a shield to smaller imageboards, like Jupiter to Earth, and there does exist a trickle of people who pass the filter and move on to other chans, which is probably healthier than massive, sudden changes.
>> No. 38571 [Edit]
>>38570
>that just means caring about the ability to label oneself as an imageboard user.
That is an insane top priority. I think those people sit in generals because they like it and its sense of continuity.
>> No. 38572 [Edit]
>>38571
It's not exactly the generals i have a problem with, but rather the practice of regurgitating the same unchanging shit, with no development.
Generals can produce nice discussion and atmosphere, but they seem to be especially prone to devolving to such a state. Of course that isn't limited to generals.
A lot of my bitterness towards generals in particular just comes from seeing some that i liked turn to mindless circlejerks, but my gripe is with any kind of thread that is just the same posts over and over, with only minor variations in the best case.
>> No. 38579 [Edit]
>>38558
Last I checked (about a year or so back) 22chan seems like it had potential to be good (not being yet another lynxchan-based 8chan spinoff is a good start), but none of the existing threads on boards I'm interested in (/a/, science/tech, and /so/-equivalent) there felt conducive to discussion); and that too the supposed /so/-equivalent /yu/ felt a bit too much like /r9k/ for my taste.
>> No. 38583 [Edit]
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Guess. Go on, try, guess. As if that actually would be hard!
>> No. 38584 [Edit]
>>38583
Is there an image board themed around mai melody?
>> No. 38622 [Edit]
>>38084
Alrighty then.

>>38584
That seems very specific...
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>>38622
The new address
https://lolis.g3.pm/l/
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