>>2991
Do you know why you're not progressing? By what yardstick are you measuring yourself by? Do you do the exact same thing every single time and expect to get better, or do you look at your attempts and understand the flaws in them? I think these things apply to learning anything. Practice can be useful or useless depending on how you do it. Maybe you're doing something fundementally wrong. Try drawing from life first. Look at an object in front of you and try to replicate it. Do this for different objects and keep trying to improve your replications. Break it down into smaller parts: basic shapes, basic shades, then layer more and more detail onto it. Can you draw a circle? Can you draw squares? Triangles? Can you draw 3-dimensional versions of those shapes? If yes, I think you can draw. Then comes living beings and eventually humans. Architecture, anatomy, nature and PEOPLE are the biggest things in art.

One of the biggest issues I find with learning is that I don't know what exactly I should be drawing to learn so I just draw pictures of a girl standing by herself. Sometimes I modify how she stands and I do get better bit by bit but I feel I should be practising in other ways.

>>2994
While you're learning how to draw people, you should do them naked. Learning how muscles expand and contract depending on the position. Draw individual body parts too. Definitely do other poses. This is called a study.

>>2993
I think I know, more or less. I don't know how to fix it.

I focused on anatomy and perspective with additional exercises for development of the most basic skills.
So I studied anatomy of separate body parts constructed with elemental geometric forms as shown in numerous tutorials, and basic gesture drawing trying to integrate these details.
For perspective I practiced mostly two-point with simple shapes and forms, and did some additional exercises with basic transformations and stuff.
I get lost when the vanishing points are off the page, and I was unable to advance to three-point.
The basic stuff involved different repetitive exercises based on drawing large amounts of lines, circles, ellipses, boxes and cylinders.
I did these the most as I feel I won't be able to ever advance without first acquiring strong line control and ability to properly draw geometry in 3D space. But I never got any better with it.

The worst thing is I can't combine these elements.
I have problems with all aspects of drawing but the major ones are with proportions, construction, practical application of perspective, proper placement of objects in space and in relation to each other.
The logical thing to do would be to keep trying to use everything I learned together until it works, the problem is I'm so bad at it it's fruitless. Especially when trying to draw from life.

I don't always know what I'm doing wrong. I can't seem to learn anything when I'm overwhelmed by everything being wrong.

>>2996
You can't progress by just doing tutorials and basic exercises. You have to go out of your comfort zone and get an intuitive feel for these things. Did you try drawing from life? It doesn't matter how well you have basic techniques down in an exercise, you have to utilize what you do know to get better at the techniques. Have you picked an object, a figurine, fruits, real people, anything, and tried to draw it? Draw it as exactly as possible. You don't necessarily even have to look at something actually in front of you. You can search for subjects online. When I tried drawing, I focused a lot of netsuke and I got pretty good at replicating them onto paper. I never did the exercises you did, and really I should have. I failed to go out of my comfort zone. Don't get caught up in rudimentary exercises. Go at it from a different angle and then go back to exercises and back and forth.

>>2997
Yes, that's what I did. I chose to do the exercises because they were specifically focused on things I can't do which are "out of my comfort zone."
Going back and forth between exercises and studies is literally what I did. But what little I learned through exercising I was unable to put into practice.
I don't know how to explain it. I'm stuck and confused.

>>2995
Thanks. I think I am going to stop drawing on tablet for a while and just do it on paper, that way I won't feel any pressure to make something presentable.

>>2999
Maybe your progress was being stifled by the medium you were using? Paper and pencil might be more natural for you. I could never stand tablets.

>>3000
No, it's an Ipad so I find it quite fine. But I find that I tend to focus more on making individual images and not so much on practising through drawing multiple sketches, there is a feeling that because it's digital it should be more polished. I think if I draw a page of scribes everyday I should improve eventually and I won't feel any pressure because nobody will ever see them.

>>610
I've drawn a little before, but I never tried anatomy. Could somebody give me critique please? I feel like I miscalculated a few things, but i'm not sure.

I think this one came out better, though the angle is easier. I have to start doing faces. Any advice is very welcome.

Her head is too long.

My first attempt at referencing a face. I had no idea what I was doing.

This one was very far off the mark.

I didn't reference the face, it came completely from my imagagination and it looks as bad as I would expect. Taking a "break" and rushing it didn't help either.

The torso is too long yet again. The angle between rib cage and hips is also wrong. I don't know how I can improve.

The perspective of this one was tricky. The torso issue is there yet again. I'll try putting the torso right next to the hips.

The outline of four faces, numbered by the order in which I drew them. Number 3 is strange and disappointing. I like to think I improved after 1.

Post edited on 6th Aug 2020, 10:32am

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>>3112
I dunno. It looks like shit? I have no idea about drawing so I can't criticize your work.
I mean you probably know all the parts that look bad so just think about those parts and fix them yourself.

>>3113
>I mean you probably know all the parts that look bad
I don't. And I don't know how to fix them either.

Post edited on 7th Aug 2020, 4:10am

>>3113
That's a lot easier said than done, and if it was half that simple everyone would be a great artist.

>>3112
Well I am the drawer of >>2994

I don't think I can offer you much assistance...

>>3116
It's been almost a year. Are you still going at it?

>>3112
There's not enough depth on the feet and arms, I think you perposely trying hide them behind for whatever reason. Draw some more thin lines on hair, the hair is one the most graceful thing in women. It is one thing that you should proritize getting it perfectly right. Do practice more on that. Overall I think your drawing lacks of thin lines and because of that, you have an over sized looking ear in your drawing. The part that delicately needs more detail turn out to be flat because there's little to no thin lines. Learn how to shade draw stroke properly. All these have some trick behind it.

>>2994
I think you need a better design on your character uniform. It looks really dull though.

I have taken all the little willpower and energy I have left and decided to start drawing.
But what I should start drawing?
It's drawing objects useful at all? Copying pictures? Drawings of others?
I have read all kinds of tutorials and books but it's all too abstract and advanced. I guess I want to stick into something and mindless grind because if I think just a little about what to do I will immediately hate the whole thing and lose all my movitation.

>>3139
Draw smiley faces. Today, draw 500 smiley faces, with slightly different levels of smile. If you don't want to think and drawing anything is okay, you should have no problem with the smiley face assignment I've given you.

>>3139
>I think just a little about what to do I will immediately hate the whole thing and lose all my movitation.
Don't think. Put pencil to paper and draw fuck whatever comes to mind that second.

>>3140
That doesn't seem particularly useful for improvement, it's some sort of secret technique?

>>3141
You mean starting with drawing from imagination?
You don't recommend copying then?

>>3142
No, my point was that you're coming at it with the wrong mindset. Drawing is more mental than physical. People get better by thinking about what they're doing more than getting stronger arms or whatever.

Doing monotonous, repetitive shit without thinking is how you train your body, not your mind(muscle memory is partially in the brain, but you get the idea). All three of the things you listed are useful in different ways. Learing "how to draw" can't be tackled from one angle.

I like the Vilppu Drawing Manual from what I've read so far. Read it and follow it, or don't. Doesn't make a difference to anybody but yourself.

>>3143
That makes all the sense. It's an important disadvantage in my case, though. I can do things in the same way I do the dishes or brush my teeth, but if I'm doing something in full consciousness I start feeling stupid and depressed, while doubting about progress being possible at all. I guess I will need to overcome that or give up.

>>2877
Oh here it was, my old as fuck post
I have improved, not by a lot considering it has been 3 years but at least I don't feel disgusted by my drawings now
Don't give up guys

>>3192
I like the eyes and there's something dark and creepy, in a good way, that I find appealing. Could you post more? Not giving up after three years already seems like an amazing feat to me.
Lately I feel like I've been giving up on everything.

>>3193
Thanks, I've been trying to imitate the style of various artists I like
@2imism
@fufu0404
@nekozukin9
(twitter, I know, but I wouldn't be able to find them anywhere else)

>Lately I feel like I've been giving up on everything.
I don't know how hard thing might be for you man but don't get discouraged. A tip I can give about drawing or similar hobbies is doing the bare minimum a day to make it a habit

>>3194
I think it's too late for me, but you should really keep drawing. There's something about some artists that goes beyond technical skills, call it "soul" or whatever, and I see it in your work. Could be the eyes or the mysterious expressions. Or the finger sandwiches.

>>3194
These are excellent. Keep drawing. Make a comic.

I haven't drawn since I was 13. I'm 23 now. You can likely tell from the style that I was a chuuni the last time I did any drawing.

I was inspired by Tetsuya Nomura to start drawing again. I'd like to become proficient enough to start a web comic.

>>3197
The only thing I'm sort of happy with is the hair. I think I did a nice job considering the decade I've spent without a pencil in my hand.

>>3197
hope it goes well with the comic.
I'd suggest to learn the basics, specially gesture. Proko's tutorials are a great resource for beginners (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLBnwmlTQLxzEey1-lsLKjN8BoGtDhb9vS). But also embrace your chuuni side and try copying art you love, specially when you're feeling sick of exercises. If you practice fundamentals and the style you like consistently you will definitely improve

>>3199
Thank you, anon. I won't work on any comics until I've committed to the craft for a few years. Lord knows the world doesn't need more deviantART tier artists trying to make webcomics.

I sketched this using my memory of Tomoko from Watamote. It doesn't look that much like her, but oh well.
I'll give those tutorials a watch. I appreciate it.

>>3200
Make comics for yourself, not for the approval or disapproval of others. A lot of webcomics will have mediocre art for the first few strips, then rapidly improve. Some will even go back to redraw their earliest once the artstyle reaches some consistency.

>>3201
I return with today's offering.
I think the face/anatomy is pretty fucked, but I'm really proud of the hair in this one.

>>3200
I would say >>3201 is right, just draw comics if you happen to have some interesting idea, no matter whether you can pull it off perfectly.
Besides, if you just keep grinding technique you might lose track of what made you draw in the first place and with it the motivation.
That's what happened to me at least.

I like the pic btw, the expression on her face is quite tomokoish actually.

>>3203
Thank you.

I feel that I have improved.

I'm no artist but I made some mspaint drawings two characters for a story I am writing. I wanted to at least sort of have an idea of what they look like. They are both named after flowers, Day Lily and Anemone, names of which are not really represent their appearances but instead point to parts of their personalites. They're both bunny girls.