Auto recovery health system.
I miss hp and medkits.

lack of HUD.
some games take it too far. and there alternatives are crap.

games taking a free roam approach but not really having anything fun to do.

and less penalties for dying. dying should f your day up, not be a slap on the wrist.

I really loathe unskippable cutscenes and developer logos at the beginning of games. It just puts me in a bad mood.

Health regen

Shitty PC ports

Launch day DLC

Character customization where you can adjust everything about a female character except breast size (or if you can, you can't go below a C cup)

EA

Pointless DRM doing nothing but causing hassle for people who bought the game. Why bother, it will always be cracked in the end.

Even GTA4's draconic SecuROM DRM got cracked in a short time, as did Assassins Creed 2's requirement to be online all the time. It's actually easier to pirate and install both than it is to buy them.

>>4317
Man, I was thinking of getting GTA4 but decided against it because it used GFWL, but it used securom too!? And rockstar complained about people not buying it, fuck

>>4318
>rockstar complained about people not buying it
What did they expect when they crammed shit like that service you have to call into just to find out the name of the song playing on the radio (which all sucked), that then tries to get you to buy it off amazon or somecrap?

>>4319
What? There was a phone call song identification thing, but it was using the in-game cell phone and wasn't real at all. I have no idea what you are talking about with the amazon thing, either

>>4318
This is what you have to do to install it:

1. Insert disc
2. Install 'Rockstar Social Club' which is just a launcher that also does patching, it starts on Windows startup by default without asking and it must be open to launch the game.
3. Install Games for Windows Live, a completely useless piece of shit that again starts on startup by default and is required for the game to laucnh. You also can't play online without creating an account.
4. Start installing game
5. Spend 30 minutes figuring out why the fuck SecuROM isn't accepting your product key
6. Download patches, one of the recent ones exists solely to remove the 'Social Club' thing.

Then every time you want to play the game.

1. Insert disc (No-CD patches for retail versions don't work with mods thanks to SecuROM)
2. Start up Games for Windows Live: it's still necessary because :reasons:
3. Launch game
4. Wait 2 minutes for the developer screens to pass
5. Wait another 2 minutes for the long as shit loading times
6. Enjoy your extremely badly ported game that runs like complete arsegravy on every computer.

Rockstar can fuck off good and proper. What's annoying is that nearly all of this shit isn't necessary if you pirate it. Oh, and you still have to use Games for Windows Live even if you buy it through Steam. Why?

>>4322
maybe it was itunes, but I know for sure they had some system set up for buying downloads of the in game songs.

>>4324
No it was amazon after all.
http://tektodo.com/2008/04/07/amazon-rockstar-gta-iv-music-downloads/

>>4325
Wow I didn't know about that (xbox version just identified tracks). If this is the shit they like to do with PC ports then I'm almost glad they don't care to do them anymore

>>4326
They had this on the console versions when the game first came out, but I think they got rid of it by the time the pc version was released.

Sequels, remakes, and reboots. It just seems like a waste of time most of the time.

>>4328
Depends on if the sequels actually expand upon the originals or are just made to cash in on the series name. Good sequels: GTA Vice City and SA. Bad: The CoD series

>>4329
>>4328
When done correctly it goes as
Part 1 introduced new ideas and is what makes the money
part 2 uses the money/experience to make a better game, which builds on part 1 but trys to be fresh.
part 3 does as before.

but what we have in the industry now.
part 1, include as little content as you can get away with, so you can use it as DLC or possibly use it for the sequel.
part 2, same as 1.
part 3, same as 2.

Post edited on 20th Aug 2011, 3:03pm

>>4330
Pretty much.

>>4332
It's funny becuase some games have been found to already have the dlc they make you pay for, on the disk you already bought, such as with gtaIV for example, which was found to have stuff from the first expansion already in it.

>>4326
I dont understand, whats the problem? They've just added a feature that allows people to buy songs they like from the game.

I dislike modern DLC, like in fallout new vegas the main game is 50 hours or so, yet they release a whole lot of DLC which are self-contained plotlines about 2 hours long. I cant be bothered going back to a game I've already finished just for a tiny self-contained adventure, I wish they made decent sized expansion packs like the old days

I don't know, but you know what we need more of? Underwater levels. I want a game that's entirely underwater levels, just like the good ol' days.

>>4336
Agreed. Maybe the underwater action could have some ice platform levels in between. You know, for variety

duke nukem forever has a big underwater level

>>4339
One of the most tedious ones in history too

>>4336
>>4338
Don't forget the escort missions. Just include a timer and/or a buggy AI and you'll be set.

>>4334
I can't say for sure, but I think it was the reason all the songs in the game sucked.
if you look at the music in the old games, they were filled with classics, real awesome stuff, but with that game, no name bands with extremely bland music.

>>4336
Ever play bioshock?

>>4343
That doesn't count, silly. I mean REAL underwater levels, with swimming and everything. Bonus points if you have a time limit until you run out of air.

Dumbing down games so they will have "mainstream appeal". RIP Hitman series, you were really cool

>>4313
>games taking a free roam approach but not really having anything fun to do.

I think the reason why open world games became so popular, is becuase the makers see it as a easy and rather lazy way of extending game play time by having the player spend 50% of his time playing the game just getting from one mission or event to the next, as they travel across the same clone stamped terrain over and over.

I'm tired of seeing brown everywhere. I keep seeing games that are set in the desert where you shoot generic brown people with brown tanks going by kicking up brown dust into my screen that has a brownish-red jelly on it because I just got shot 4 times by that brown sniper in the brown tower.

>>4357
There's a reason for that, actually

http://www.gamasutra.com/blogs/PhilippeRinguetteAngrignon/20090606/1708/Why_quotNextGen_Gamesquot_Went_Gray_Brown_And_Grey.php

>>4357
Well I'm tired of seeing gray everywhere.
I keep seeing games that are set in dark gray cities where you shoot generic people in dark gray armor/uniforms with grey vehicles going by kicking up grey dirt into my screen which is dark gray-red because I just got shot 4 times by that gray sniper in the gray building.

Let's get married!

>>4360
the real reason is that brown and grey are the colors of REALISM

>>4363

Yeah I guess it's real. REAL SHITTY LOL

>>4361
THIS SO HARD.

I played Quake for the first time recently and I was surprised by how complex and mazelike the levels were. It made me realize how linear games are now. Even if the levels themselves aren't linear there's always something showing you where to go and how to get there. I miss that feeling of being lost.

FPS

This genre is so overdone it's not funny. Even worse, it has a madden-level casual fanbase. The only two games my old man enjoys are Madden and FPS's, and he's the biggest casual known to man.

>>4399
This is why a number of the most popular older FPS have scared me off, actually. I could just tell I'd be lost and raging for hours.

>>4317
Someone once explained it to me this way:

It's not meant to stop smart internet users like me and you, it's meant to stop 12 year old billy from copying the game on a cd for his friend max. It seems like a silly explanation but if you go to any cracked game torrent you'll usually see hundreds of replies by people who can't even properly copy over the crack to the game files. Those are the people DRM is meant to hinder, not us.

>>4508
why is it bad that a genre has a casual fanbase? do you honestly expect everyone to be as hardcore a gamer as yourself? and FPS games arent even casual; shit like cooking mama and carnival games is casual.

>>4532
>FPS games arent even casual; shit like cooking mama and carnival games is casual

They are both garbage made for idiots.


That's assuming by "fps" you mean things like CoD, anyway.

Post edited on 4th Sep 2011, 3:50pm

>>4532
There's casual as in 15 year old kids that rarely play video games if it's not with their friends in the room, who think it's "gay" to play video games alone, and who only do so as they use that time to yell at random people on xbox live.
(Today I was playing a game with a pop up that kept coming talking about how I can play with my friends online or some crap, I told my tv to fuck off and that I have no friends.)

Then there's the type of casual gamers that are little dumb kids or just old.
The type that don't know shit about video games and need helping hands for everything in games.
They're the ones with your cooking mama or other such interactive and overly simple games.

Oh and let us not forget the hipster type of casual gamers, the type that mostly just play iPhone games, and who show off their mario shit because it's so cool and nerdy, the ones who only play interactive console games at home which can be played with friends, like on the wii or the move or konnect.


I think we might need more terms to expand on "casual" since it has clear sub genres, which game developers treat very differently and market to differently.
for the frat kids they make call of duty clones
for the idiots you got all those simple puzzle games, and games that practically play themselves.
for the hipsters you got games like rock band, or whatever else required waving around a big plastic dildo in front of a tv.

>>4535

holy shit

"hey guys my whack-a-mole cover shooter is HARDCORE and MLG QUALITY because my mother couldnt figure out how to walk around in them! total ownage bros!!!!"

Post edited on 4th Sep 2011, 4:19pm

>>4536

You do realize he is being sarcastic, right?

>>4537
I really hope he is

I was trying to be serious but some of you guys are so out of touch with reality I don't even know why I bother

>>4541
We might be out of touch with reality, but you're in denial of it if you think call of duty is a hard core fps.

>>4535

My mom couldn't get a hang of moving around in SMG. I'm not sure if it proves SMG is hardcore but here you go.

>>4534
>There's casual as in 15 year old kids that rarely play video games if it's not with their friends in the room, who think it's "gay" to play video games alone
You completely made this up.
>>4543
It is. People just don't want to be associated with retarded frat boys.

If my mom failed at Barbie's horse adventure, would that make it a hard core game?

>>4546
Dunno, but it looks fucking awesome!!1!

>>4547
Reminds of the Epsom Horse Racing paiting, because both look horribly unnatural.

My mom can't figure out how to use Microsoft Word. Pretty hardcore, I'd say

having to wait an eternity before you can do anything.
Why do almost all game devs act like you can't be introduced to the story as you play it?

I am completely and utterly fed up and pissed off as hell with pc games and their 360 controller crap.
I do not own a 360 controller, I do not want to buy a 360 controller.
There is nothing wrong with the usb game pad I currently own.
When the hell did it get this way? it's like every single dev forgot there are game pads out there that are not xboxbox controllers.
When a game says "press Y" how the crap am I supposed to know what button is 'Y'?

Earlier I tried playing some game, this menu says press B to exit/return, I have no idea what button is supposed to be B, but then I find it, I change the keybindings in the game's menu for my pad to something that works for me, and now that I exited the key binding (with their B button), that button isin't B anymore, but they still tell me to press B to exit/return after the binding has changed, but all the menu keys have also changed becuase of the binding, and because those ass hats only show the actual number of the keypad during binding, I have no clue whatsoever what button is what.
God I wish I could kick ever dev in the balls that does this crap.
the game recognises the numbers of each button on my pad, and the pad has those numbers on the buttons, yet they still show 360 buttons everywhere outside of the key binding sub menu.
Is Microsoft forcing pc game developers to do this in order to push their peace of crap game system?
seriously, fuck them, I'm sick of this.

>>4823
Why are you playing with a controller on the PC? What game is it?


Also the blame is probably 100% on lazy shitty game devs

EDIT: Oh, I see what it is on your steam. Yeah car games are probably better with controllers. Given the game's low as shit score I can't really be surprised that they took shortcuts when it came to things like gamepad support

Post edited on 30th Sep 2011, 2:40pm

>>4823
Yeah that pisses me off too, have you tried binding the controls to keyboard buttons and then using xpadder to get your controller to use those keystrokes as buttons?

I'm pretty sure it is just microsoft being assholes, same deal with GFWL.

>>4824
yeah racing/car games don't work well with keyboards I think.

The thing is though, it's not just low budget games, most games out there do this.
this was something that was actually added into the game dead island with an update, the game originally had a mouse icon before with the door smashing mechanic, but it then got switched for a 360 analog stick when I updated, and I wasn't even playing that game with a pad.

what's worse is when it's fully incorporated into the game play of a game.
When I was playing just cause 2 using a pad, They had minigame quicktime event things, requiring you to press something like 10 buttons in the order they show up as in the time limit.
Not as easy as it sounds when the buttons they show are buttons you don't have.
I tried modding that game just to replace those stupid icons, but was never able to find where those icons were saved in the game's data, they were pretty well hidden.

then there's crap like this, image related.
the hud and pick up items are based around xbox buttons, and the possession of those hud buttons ignores custom key binding.
They're not being lazy, they're doing this completely on purpose.

Post edited on 30th Sep 2011, 3:31pm

>>4825
Can't say that I have.
Might be worth trying for the games that really push this more then others.

the game is probably an xbox port

>>4826

I just have a rough time with the XBox controller in general. I suppose I am too used to having a gamepad on the left and 2-4 buttons on the right.

I don't own a XBox, so whenever I play some game with my roommate and his friends, our skill levels (though I would normally be well above them... in terms of fighting games like Blazblue for instance) are more or less turned even because I can't get the commands off on that strange controller. They do it like it is no problem though.

Wth do they put the D-Pad on the bottom?
Shit like this makes me feel old.

>>4846

Also, signing in (on your own console) to play a game is just the strangest thing to me. I still haven't gotten used to it. Never really into online play on consoles.

>>4848
Microsoft sucks dicks, that's about it.

>>4846

>I just have a rough time with the XBox controller in general.

Really? I don't own an Xbox and have no intention of ever getting one (unless someone will be willing to give it to me for free) but I love the 360 controller. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's my favorite controller of all time*. Only two other controllers ever felt as comfortable for me - some Logitech pad (can't say which model, I borrowed it from a friend of mine a few times) and Wavebird. If the 360 used Wavebird's assymetrical button placement I would never use any other controller again.

* I have fond memories of Megadrive controller, too, but that's mostly nostalgia

>>4856
Yeah, it really is quite astounding that they went from the abomination that was the original xbox controller to the xbox360 controller.

>>4870
>>4856
So that makes it okay to force it onto PC gamers?

>>4872
no. but if youre going to force a controller on someone you may as well force the best.

I hate the sticks on PS3 controllers. and the triggers. just my opinion as someone who owns both consoles.

>>4873
You should really learn to separate opinion from fact before you make more of an ass out of yourself.

Just becuase you prefer something, that doesn't make it the best, it only makes it best for you.

please, if you're going to keep this fanboy console war bs up, take it to /v/, they love this crap over there.

Post edited on 6th Oct 2011, 3:03am

>>4874

>Just becuase you prefer something, that doesn't make it the best, it only makes it best for you.

First of all, this is pretty damn obvious. There's no reason to add 'if you ask me' or other crap like that every time you voice an opinion.

And even then, he actually did do that, most likely in an attempt not to anger people who are offended if everybody and their mom doesn't agree with them.

>just my opinion

I mean it doesn't get any more obvious than that. It's plain impossible.

Second, you can stop getting angry whenever someone mentions a gaming system that wasn't developed by Sony. You like them, we get it. Hey, I like them too. PS2 was by far the best paltform of the 6th gen. Doesn't mean I can't enjoy other companies' products and point out that while Dual Shock felt comfortable to me over 10 years ago it doesn't do the trick for me anymore. You are free to disagree of course but please, don't get angry again, I bet it's bad for your health to be under this much stress.

If anyone brings /v/ angry attitude over it's definitely you. ... Oh, I forgot. Just my opinion.

When did /tc/ become so aggressive?

Chill out, take it easy, and play some video games.

>>4877
video games make you angry

especially when they're on an inferior console like the xbox 360

>>4876

That post was the funniest example of unintentional self-contradiction I've seen in a while. Good going.

>>4312

MAG for the PS3 has both of those features. It saddens me as an obsessive MAG player that this FPS (& many other good games) are slowly being suffocated under the mainstream.

I wasn't sure where else to post this, so I will post it here. I hate everything about this

>>4876
He said it's alight to force the 360 controller on pc gamers because it's the best controller, in my opinion, that's being a console fanboy faggot.

Adding in my opinion at the end of anything you say doesn't always makes it okay.

on a unrelated note, I think jews deserved to be burned alive, blacks and browns should get the same treatment because they're ruining America, also, japan deserved the earthquake because of what they did to pearl harbor, those freaks need another nuke in my opinion.

Post edited on 6th Oct 2011, 2:08pm

>>4880

Is that fucking for real?

Didn't they change their name to Xe?

What a disgusting piece of PR either way.

>>4880
Wait, wait, wait. Blackwater/Xe? As in the mercenary group responsible for a great deal of war crimes but never has to go to military court due to diplomatic immunity mumbo-jumbo? They're getting a game?

That's pretty disturbing.

>>4880
wow, that guy looks like a jackass playing that, and the game looks like shit.

Annoying announcers on starcraft streams.
Seriously...
http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2011/11/29/spectating-in-games.html
Day9 show how it is done PROPERLY.

Crappy multiplayer netcode.

-Auto-Aim on consoles.
-Can't back up through dialog incase you missed what it said.
-No split screen multiplayer/co-op.
-On PC, no split screen multiplayer/co-op. This one sounds odd, but if it was a common thing we could just replace consoles with PC, and hook them up to our TVs, and it could do everything a console/DVDplayer/Cablebox/AudioSystem/etc does.
-In RPGs all the endless battles that offer no challenge. Sometimes I wish there was a mode where you could play without the battles and just enjoy the story.
-No more unlockables, I already know I am capable of getting them that is why they exist. Give me access to everything from the beginning and if I want a challenge I won't use it.
-Limiting options and game modes, You should be able to directly manipulate every single constant/variable in the game. ie: change gravity, # of teams, handicaps, # of enemies, enemy weapons, weather, AI level, objectives, etc, etc. Within reason though, as long as the system doesn't crash it is ok.
-Can't save after you die, forced to spend hours leveling up. This is usually how most Final Fantasys end (especially 3).

>>5542
Which commentators do you find annoying?

Personally, I think humor is more important than professionalism in the world of game casting. I can forgive a lot of amateurish moves as long as there's humor and viewer connection. My favorites are day9, lagtv, artosis and tb. The rest that I'm familiar with just doesn't intrigue me on that same level. I think it's a matter of originality vs effort when it comes to my personal preferences on casters.

---

On topic:
I'm in general tired of the various trends modern consoles advocate. For example the menus and navigation there of in TESV. The controller limitations are ever so present, and I'd be cool with that if I was playing with a controller, but I'm not - I'm playing with a keyboard and mouse.

That's a point of annoyance that I feel hits me as of now. There's another point that I feel is just waiting to bite me, and that's social gaming. I'm so afraid of this trend and everything it manifests that I have to this day more or less effectively evaded it. Forced profile creations are bad, but now I know more or less what games to evade in order to free myself of these gaming profiles. Luckily for me, those games with their respective companies don't much appeal to me. If, however, this trend becomes the definite norm, it might just end up hurting me bad, and I'll be forced to compromise even greater on my gaming.

Lastly there's DRM, and if it weren't for game clients such as Steam, it would probably lead to me quitting on games alltogether. I don't buy physical copies of games unless I know it supports steamworks. I despise discs for a number of reasons, and threw away my DVD drive long ago just to force myself off of this terrible storage medium. My condolences to those stuck on slow internet connections.

When a game has a painfully awkward control scheme and theirs no option to change it.

I really think developers are trolling me when they do that.

Companies buying gaming franchises and running it to the ground.

RIP Command & Conquer and Westwood...

>>5592
the sequel to C&C Generals is being made by Bioware

>>5593

I just died a little inside.

>>5593
so how many romance plots can we expect

>>5593
>>5594
>>5597
To be fair it is actually being made by Bioware group, so it is less likely to have romance plots and more likely to be just a huge heap of shit like RA3 and C&C4.

>>5600
I think I'd prefer a Generals with gay romance subplots than another RA3 or C&C4

>>4508
Why you hate casuals? Why are self-proclaimed h@rdc0r3 gamers so elitist?

See what happens when you don't try to increase your costumer base;
http://au.pc.gamespy.com/articles/539/539972p1.html

I'm so completely sick of westernization of game box art.
taking things that are nice and making them bleak dark gritty or just hiding it as the case is with many games, pisses me right off.
They're sending a clear message that you should be ashamed to buy something nice/cute/happy
good example of this would be all the Kirby covers they use and keep the same except for making him look pissed off in the American versions.
This shit is a complete insult to western gamers and needs to stop already.

and for what? so some little bastered who's ashamed of his hobby can pretend to be buying something socially acceptable at the cost of the rest of us?
or is it because they think most Americans are retarded and wont buy a game that doesn't have tits and guns on the cover?


more here.
http://wwww.1up.com/do/blogEntry?publicUserId=6130844&bId=9072966

>>5683
The god damn Ico art is what irritates me the most out of all of those. The original is so damn beautiful and appealing, as opposed to the American version which is, frankly, hideous.

I don't like the growing trend of not making the music of the games playable outside the game itself, especially on consoles. I mean, I still listen to music from games like Morrowind regularly, and I miss the days when I could simply pop a game CD into my CD player and listen to the soundtracks of games like WipeOut and Rise 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pqm_qFXJzLk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz2YJMqYYWA
Can't do that with my PS3 games, at most they might offer the tracks on iTunes or something.

>>5683
>>5685

Kirbeh

Overpowered final bosses, or final bosses that are unbeatable without a certain set of skills/equipment/resistances. This has happened in a lot of JRPGs I've played lately.

I just want to continue with the story, I want to see the ending. But no, I have to drop everything and go grind somewhere. Completely ruins the build-up to the final boss and ending.

>>5688

I would be angrier to find out the final boss was some kind of wimp whom I managed to one shot.

Then again I rarely finish any games, once I get my fill I just stop playing (instead of forcing myself to finish it just for the sake of it even though I got past my 'saturation' point long ago).

>>5683

To be fair we have come a long way in that regard.

>>5689
I have no problem with challenging final bosses, e.g. Luciferfrom SMT3:Nocturne. I'm talking about bosses that you're required to grind for, because no amount of strategy using what you have when you reach the boss will work.

>>5691
Fighting game bosses can be annoying too.

You got Street Fighter where the Boss version >> normal version from the player character select screen.

Then there's KOF where you have to exploit the boss AI to win rather than improve your game.

>>4336
I've actually written a game that's entirely underwater,but the story is only a paragraph or two and my drawing ability is nonexistant.


Now for my complaints,Skyrim; now I know lots of people love this game and I do too,but it has a lot of things that could be significantly improved IMO.
-glitches:There's no excuse for releasing a game with so many glitches and Bethesda needs to make fixing it for free a priority ASAP.
-lack of ability to kill children:In a game that's supposedly all about freedom of choice having invincible children is fucktarded.It's also bad beause the kids will sit up at night and ruin any attempts at feeding and thievery.
-lack of nudity:Another thing that bothers me is how people NEVER get naked and you always have to leave a token tunic bikini on female bandits after you kill them and search them.

These are things I'd like in the game,and might pay for as DLC;

-more clothing options.Especially sexy clothe for the female characters.Maybe a french made outfit.
-the ability to ride Odaviing instead of horse.Come on Bethesda.
-allow polygamy
-an extremely powerful illusion spell that renders anyone hit by it as the equivalent to a slave or housecarl forever or until you release them.
-Using this spell would give the player more options in regards to the NPCs behavior.
-Examples are the ability to command women to wear any clothes you choose as well as command them to marry you even if they normally aren't a marriage option.Also you could tell them to do other things like clean your house.In certain cases you could also tell other characters to do actions specific to them.Such as telling Aela the Huntress to transform and help you fight,or telling a vampire NOT to feed so they advance to a higher vampire stage.

>>5703
im not sure i'd ever want to see a bethesda character naked

>>5688
Ya that is the worst.
I wonder if they do it on purpose? or is it that my skillz are so mad that I beat all the other areas with a super level and time, but when I get to the end they be like "na dawg na, you must be dis tall ta pass." don't hate they player, hate the game.

/wat

On average I'd say the higher the battle to adventure/puzzle/etc ratio is the worse the game is.

Speaking of bosses the PoP:sands of time boss, at the time I was dissapointed, but in retrospect it was refreshingly easy For those that haven't played, he is a old man with a stick, and takes miniute to beat, and you are practically invincible with your time rewinding abilities, not that you need them though actually getting to him was hard as they removed all the save points for like 20 minutes of playing.

>>5683

>>5749
Removing the main character from the cover of the game?
Seriously, fuck them for doing this, and anyone that bought that version.

>>5703
Good thing that modders exist...

>>5816

I hear they also made her a few years older (just data-wise, they didn't touch the in-game models/sprites) because LOLPEDOS.

>>5920
They did that age change thing in Ar Tonelico 3 as well. In at2 a character was 11, then at3 takes place 2 years after at2 and she is magically 16.

This is kind of off topic of the main thread but relevant to Ar Tonelico/Atelier.

I love these games but don't have a PS3 due to being a poorfag, so I can't ever play the Arland titles. Does anyone know any good, unarrated Let's Play type videos or channels where I can just watch? Gotta get the story somehow.

Console specific exclusives eg. Megaman, Pac-man in SFxT
Preorder exclusives eg. Catwoman in Arkham City

Also
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/game/anniversary/
*sigh* at the lack of LAN play and continuous online....

since this is the general video game bitching thread...

http://kotaku.com/5881867/some-of-ubisofts-pc-games-wont-work-next-week-not-even-singleplayer

You can't play (legit) PC ubisoft games next week because they are moving servers, so their DRM won't work (and unlike steam they dont have an offline mode). and they wonder why PC gamers pirate their shit

>>6032
Pc gamers don't need a reason to pirate

We pirate for no real reason other than "we can".

Anyone who says different is a liar.

>>6033
I don't pirate at all, unless getting the translated touhou games count. If there was an EA game or something that I absolutely had to play I might, but only because they are terrible and don't deserve money. I gladly give money to companies I feel deserve it, and they tend to be the only people who make games I care about anyway.

>>6032
if that was really the only reason PC gamers pirated they would buy the game legit and then torrent it and play the version without DRM.

>>6035
Why would they want to give money to a company that does something like that?

>>6036
because they like the game enough that they want to play it

Video game programmers getting fired due to management incompetence always irks me....

http://www.playerattack.com/news/2012/01/29/more-jobs-reportedly-lost-at-thq-australia/

>>6032
I feel your pain over DRM. I <3 AC but hate what Ubisoft has done to it.

>>6118
I, too, cry with you, friend.

Games that don't use autosave.
I hate it when they bug you to save your game every 10 minutes, and are over critical about it.
Asking if you're sure you want to exit the save game sub menu in games that allow you to go right back to it as many times as you like whenever.

>>6202 Games that don't use autosave.

Damn you, CATHERIIINEE!

Using a old IP that doesn't fit instead of making your own new franchise. *koff*Max Payne 3*koff*

>>6282
MP3 looks pretty cool though, even though it doesn't fit the series at all. One of the only non-indie games I plan on playing this year

Gameplay? Heh, no thanks, we got WORDS

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-19-one-bioshock-infinite-level-contains-three-times-more-dialogue-than-all-of-bioshock-1

>>6360

On the upside it might cure some people from ADD (whcih I imagine must be quite an issue among FPS players).

Okay, it won't, but it's nice to dream.

Valve thinks that fun =/= competitive. What?

It's under the LUNCH heading in the article: http://www.sirlin.net/blog/2012/3/8/gdc-2012-day-2.html

>>6383
this guy is dumb for assuming tf2 is a competitive game and not a hat simulator

>>6383
One guy at some table = Valve? Coming from some guy on some site? Okay, but I still don't get it; 'fun' being a highly unscientific term and all..

Test run for Mass Effect 3's TRUE ENDING DLC? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds8GUqWdT38

http://www.therefinedgeek.com.au/index.php/2012/02/24/day-one-dlc-the-hate-the-reasoning-and-the-understanding/

>>6404

If they weren't greedy fucks they'd make it a free download to anyone who purchased the game.

>>6399
I've heard rumors about how the "true" ending is the destroy reapers one, as that is the only way shepard lives and shepard is a very important figure in "Mass Shift", the supposed name of the future game.

>>6405

Heh, I was about to post the same thing. I don't mind Day 1 DLC. Just don't make me pay for it when I paid for the game. Or if you really want me to shell out those extra 10$ decrease those 10$ from the cost of the boxed game. I 200% serious here.

I swore to never ever buy a game with Day 1 DLC, no matter how innovative, spectacular and worthy of support the game itself is. I don't like paying for the product and being spit in face for it. I mean really, I don't expect the devs/publishers to treat me like a king just because I bought their product. I decided it's worth the money and bought it, it's a fair trade, nobody has to be grateful to anyone here, it's supposed to be a win win situation. Just don't treat me like shit and we'll get along just fine.

Remember when Criterion released free maps for Burnout Paradise? 'Hey guys, there's no special occasion and we know we neither promised nor even announced anything of the sort earlier but we did a few new maps for Burnout so feel free to download them'. That was a really classy move. It's way, way more than I'd expect from a dev. Purchasing a polished product is good enough for me but I'd never expected anyone to hand out freebies for no reason whatsoever. When I read it I honestly felt like grabbing my wallet and buying the game even though I have no interest in racing games (in the end I didn't buy it but you get the point).

And like the reports say, next gen games will be probably priced at 70$. You know why? For the same reason they release DLC - because people will pay for it.

>>6412
I don't see CD Project mentioned enough in this sort of discussion. I suppose that would get old in the long run, so maybe it's for the best to keep the pure out of this dirty business.

Personally I'm more focused on making the most benefitial compromise when it comes to situations such as these. There are two developments I don't like in the meta perspective of modern games - DLC and redundant, non-generic dependencies. Both issues can be avoided by either ignoring or waiting. I can ignore certain DLCs alltogether or I can wait for a "final" release of the given game in the later stages of its shelf life. I can ignore a game with ugly dependecies altogether or I can wait for its publisher to either can or sell whatever they're pushing.

Though I must admit that ME3 is fast becoming a hard nut to deal with in this scenario. It's like they want me to both pirate and crack everything. I think I'll end up awaiting some kind of "ultimate release" with the whole trilogy and all its DLC shit, and then look into cracking it off of Origin.

The easiest route is to see the developers butcher their own franchises.

>>6413

>I don't see CD Project mentioned enough in this sort of discussion.

That's funny because I didn't mention them because I thought everybody is fully aware of what they're doing with the Witcher franchise.

Glitches... lots of glitches
http://biffotasty.blogspot.com.au/2012/04/cmv3.html

>>6514
Did anyone even test this?

Points-of-no-return. If there's any collecting in the game on top of it I feel like shoving an entire forrest up the devs' asses. FUCK, just thinking about it pisses me off.

EA fucking up C&C even more than they already did. Seriously, I don't even care if this design is stolen because the aesthetic doesn't fit GDI at all.

God why can't they just let it die?

>>6517
Looks like something a seven year old boy would design.

>>6518
It's ripped off from WH40k, what else could you expect?

Post edited on 12th Apr 2012, 10:21am

>>6517
Wow, EA is pretty shameless with ripping off

While looking for pictures of that bonecrusha I found out EA also ripped another WH40k tank.
Can we have Tech Priests for the Brotherhood of Nod?

Terrible, lazy pixelated graphics that are being heralded as "artistic" and/or "stylized". I have nothing against retro graphics, and graphics in general are never a major selling point for me...but I'm seriously sick of people saying that games in that vein have "good" graphics simply because they're "artsy and different". Then they proceed to rehash the same shit all over again the next week when another random 4-hour cheapie game comes out on XBL. This is hipster dreck at its worst.

>>6556

I know what you mean but I kinda disagree. If you're talking about something like pic related then yeah, you're right, no question about it. But there are some guys producing top quality sprites and that deserves some recognition. Graphics obviously move forawrd so what looks good today will look average in a year but when it comes to 8/16 bits you have to compete with eveyrthing released over last ~2 decades.

>>6556
Isn't this meta related? More importantly: what does it matter to you what people say? It would be a flippant claim to say that said reception affects the outcome of future game projects. That's mostly up to finances, I believe. Note that certain "developers" are lazy assholes no matter what reactions their games invoke, eg. Notch.

"retro" graphics are basically just a marketing thing in addition to being a convenient way to not have actual effort put into visuals. Default Minecraft for example looks like garbage, but it's "OK" because that's "retro".

>>6561
>marketing
You're joking. It's indie we're talking about.

Minecraft isn't really retro, it's just basic. Cave Story, Yume Nikki, Jamestown, VVVVVV, Lone Survivor, Gemini Rue, etc. is retro - as it was very clearly a concious design choice, thus adding to the games' aesthetical integrity. In the case of Minecraft it was the fanbase who gave the game any integrity to speak of whatsoever, and the media hyped it up like mad. Mojang got everything for free with Minecraft. This is not the norm as most indie developers are just barely getting by, and they work for what they get. That's part of the nature of being independent, and seeing it downplayed is unsightly.

>>6562
well said.

Giant ugly blocks aren't 'retro', they're just giant ugly blocks. most 'retro' games didn't look like that, except for maybe stuff on the atari, but people still thought that looked like shit, even when it was new. and I doubt most people are talking about 70's games or atari stuff when they think of 'retro graphics' they probably think more of stuff on the NES, like the super mario games, but that stuff had twice the detail that modern day 'retro' games have.

>>6559
I've played plenty of games with "retro" spritework that I've thoroughly enjoyed. My problem is when they actually treat it as a selling point and an excuse to not put more effort into more important components (namely gameplay).

>>6560
Read above: it's not so much about "what people say", and more about advertising a shortcoming as something to be appreciated. Bear in mind that I'm not talking about fans, but rather prominent reviewers and the companies themselves.

>It would be a flippant claim to say that said reception affects the outcome of future game projects
Is there a typo or a missing word here? I'm pretty sure that the reception of a game does affect what a company does in the future...at least most of the time.

>>6562
Jamestown is one such retro-styled game that I enjoyed. At least they made an effort to make the game fun, and didn't go on a tangent about how "artistically brilliant" it was.

>>6564
>Read above
I did; admitedly I had trouble figuring out what parties you were refering to - fans, media or developers. I took a guess on the fans. If it's media then yeah, media sucks, but it's still meta. If it's the developers then we're onto the comment you quoted me on, which I'll explain. With "said reception" I refered to the following that you wrote:
>I'm seriously sick of people saying that games in that vein have "good" graphics simply because they're "artsy and different"
It's my opinion that such elements in the games' overal reception shouldn't affect the coming games notably, as in creating trends. What I do believe creates trends is the financial element of the games' reception. Whether the one leads to the other or vice versa is extremely complicated to determine for sure. My point is this - if the artistic and element is key to a given game's presentation, then people will buy the game only if they buy the whole "artsy and different" thing. If they do buy it then there's clearly a market for it, and if you specifically are unhappy with it, then you're excluded from that market group. This problem is close to the OP, but not quite, as it leans towards genre complaints rather than general complaints. I'm sorry for being unclear on this. That being said it's still a matter of opinion.

The complaint that game developers should put gameplay over aesthetics and graphics is undeniably valid, but I don't think it's necessary to pick on indie developers if this is what you wish communicate.

>>6573
I see where you're coming from- even when I was typing up my original post, I thought it might come across a little "off" in regards to the original topic. But it's a growing trend that does bug me.

As for indie developers, I'm certainly not picking on them as a whole. I enjoy plenty of indie games, and I don't think their ability to make quality games should be judged solely by their budget. I don't think it's unreasonable to say that indie games tend to shine more in the gameplay department, though. For that reason I'm really not a fan of games with very shallow gameplay that "make up for it" by being "artistic", be it via pixel art, silhoutte sprites, or even non-graphical things such as a convoluted plot that's passed off as "deep". There are some non-indie games that do this, too, and I dislike them just as much (if not more).

In short, I think that games are artistic in their own way already. Games that attempt to be "good" by putting way too much emphasis on artistic value (at the expense of more important issues), though, annoy me.

>>6574
>I see where you're coming from
Likewise; you make good points, and I agree very much on what you say now that you've elaborated on your views. This was a nice discussion, thanks.

>>6575
And the same to you.

As a shooter fan I'm sick of

>Lack of server browsers/forced matchmaking. Worst fucking idea ever

>Lack of open custom games. The funnest thing about many shooters is making kooky things like knife only games or whatever.

>Regenerating health, which is just scrub shit. I like what MAG did, it had a med kit item that you used to heal yourself, but like all items in the game it costs points on your equipment burden.

These 3 things are why I like MGO so much, despite the whiney awful fanbase. BF3 is also a honorable mention for custom games and a server browser. 24/7 OP metro is fun.

I miss Infiltration. Now that was a badass mod and if it was remade as a regular game today it would be probably be hailed as some revolutionary new precedent.

Zombies, just the idea of zombies itself in videogames is so overused and always failing to the point of questioning why it isn't dead yet.

>>6617
>why it isn't dead yet.
Because of retards who think zombies are the best thing ever and who will buy anything with zombies in it.

>>6618
Zombies would be cool if they were ever done right in games. They are supposed to be a slow, constant threat that is always risky to fight because one bite and you are done for. Instead games these days just make them canon fodder that you can jump around in without a care in the world. Project Zomboid looks like it's gonna do zombies right, but I've been wary of the developers since one of them had a meltdown

>>6619
I played project zombroid not a few days ago, and I have to say that it's actually coming out quite nicely.
It was a lot better than expected, but it still has a long ways to go. I just hope that the developer can keep his priorities straight and doesn't try to appeal to a wider audience by simplifying the game.
I just wish it wasn't coded in java, though.

The problem with zomboid is that I don't know how fun hiding in a house all day is going to be in the long term. I mean, I've been doing it for the last 21 years and it hasn't been very fun at all!

>>6621
Well hopefully we can access TC in the zombie apocalypse.

>>6622
You mean, like an in game web browser, similar to Uplink's IRC client?

>>4345

Games that feel the need to hit every demographic. Dead Space 3 is going to have a cover system and gunfights with space marines

>>6629
I liked the first game, but man fuck that. I still haven't playing the second one just because of the disgusting advertisements for it.

>>6630
YOUR MOM WILL HATE DEAD SPACE 2!

I think she is more disappointed in all of my dakimakura and figures

>>6631
Yup, those ads.

>>6631

>YOUR MOM WILL HATE DEAD SPACE 2!

... WHAT

Aren't they even trying to hide that 90% of 18+ (it is 18+, right?) games are aimed at kids? Holy shit.

A game that was hurried in the sense of visual effects.
I don't mind bad graphics, I mean I really don't but what I hate the most out of anything that any developer could ever do to his game is not take the time to optimize it.
The most important thing to me is a good framerate and a good story. since the second thing is almost impossible to find these days I mostly tend to rely on the constant framerate, even then most developers of today are too lazy to take the time to optimize their engine and the such.

>>6634

The need to go online for single-player.

>>6725

I hate this too. Though I'm glad it's only some developers doing it.

>>6725
I glad that don't own any games that require me to do stupid shit like that.

I'm playing MGS for the first time, and holy shit, fuck the button mashing torture "minigame".

Forced button mashing segments are worse than quick time events. Both are pseudo-gameplay bullshit that add nothing worthwhile to the game, but at least quick time events don't wear you out nearly as much.

Post edited on 13th Jun 2012, 5:47pm

>>6835
At least it's not control stick rotating

>>6835
I got passed it by flexing my arm hard enough to shake my thumb around.

>>6837
That's how I mash too. It was funny in games where they meant for you to mash slower so the animation looks really sped up and silly

>>6514
Freeze glitch...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvVDAmB9EB4

>>5592
The ONLY good thing EA did with C&C is keep the same music composer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm5QxCHbgLA

Using sex to sell the game. I'm looking at you, Dead or Alive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBRBN4GSQvc
Wait... that's not doa?

>>6835
I remember my friend couldnt believe I got the good ending for this game back when it came out, he insisted the torture part was impossible. I didnt have any problem with it.

>>6960
I wonder what kind of swimsuit they'll give Yoshimitsu. If he's still in the game, I mean. I haven't played Tekken in a very, very long time.

>>6961

It's made considerably easier after you realize you can keep mashing the button to restore your health for a little while after Ocelot stops electrocuting you.

>>6960
My DOA5 polygons don't have such low res!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPqHNQgolZA

Tailing.
It's not 'that' big of a deal to me, but I still find it annoying when it comes up.
you know, when you have to follow a car from a distance, but not too far away.

A lot of games just don't do it right at all. they wont take corners or obstacles into account and just go purely off proximity, which can be a real problem when taking corners. even if you're following them at a set distance, and they take a corner around a building, you're getting closer to them as they do so, this has can easily result in a failure.
and what the heck are you supposed to do when they stop at a red light or something? just stop where you are? so they really not suspect they're being followed when they look back and see a car parked in the middle of the street?

>>7061
I was playing the SA mission where you follow a guy from san fierro to los santos, and when I got to the subway station there everyone was screaming and running around in terror for no real reason. So i was silently following this guy around while everyone around us was acting like the world was ending

>>7061
Oh, haruhi. I hate doing that. I've failed a number of times because of what you've stated. Even the bar (if the programmers are nice enough to have one on the god damn screen) is there to be helpful, it can still be a big pain to get through, especially when cars, people, and other garbage start trying to slow you down.

Such horrible missions.

>>7061
All we had to do was follow the damn train, CJ!

If that one counts as tailing.

Post edited on 10th Aug 2012, 1:51pm

>>7068
This is my second time hearing that this week.

>>7068
That mission sucked, every time I failed it I'd respond with 'and all YOU had to do was shoot the fucking guys'

>>7068
>>7071

I didn't really find that mission difficult. I also didn't find the Water Temple hard.

>>7075

Ocarina's water temple?
No one thinks it's hard, just incredibly annoying because of the water levels and use of the boots.

>>7076
>No one thinks it's hard

It's actually usually the number one thing that comes to most gamers' minds when the topic of hard video game levels comes up. Then again, most gamers are idiots

>>7075
I'm not sure if it would be right to call it hard, it's just programed poorly.
passing the mission seems less to do with skill as much as just dumb luck.
the motor bike is set to barely keep up with the train, problem is the NPC on the back of your bike, they limit his fire rate and his accuracy sucks, yet the mission is completely dependent on him.
killing those 4 enemies with the same gun would normally take a few seconds, but that fat fuck drags it out for the whole mission.

On a modded version of gtasa, I used a ramp spawner, to jump onto the train and kill them myself, and finished the mission before they even reached the tunnel.

>>7083
I used cheat codes to give myself a machine gun so that I could kill them myself since he sucked so badly as an assist. I'm not sure if I used the Flying Vehicles code, but it would've made it faster than the train and I would have probably ended dive bombing onto train, killing whoever that guy with me was.

Cheat codes made GTA good. It was never fun to play without them. It really sucks that they made it so that cheat codes would mess the game up at a certain point if you used them too many times (as I did in my first play through).

The Westernization of games.

I have no problem with Western things and am okay with them, but when I see Japanese games like Devil May Cry and Castlevania be put through it just to turn out like some stupid movie they show in the movie theaters is where I just can't take it.

I like Japanese games because they're different from Western games and offer experiences that appeal to me.

I can't link directly to youtube, so I'll post this instead: http://andriasang.com/con285/dmc_vergil/ .

>>7085

I've heard of this before. What happens? Only I've used all sorts of cheats many, many times and I can't remember anything messing up for me.

>>7162
It makes some of the latter missions in the game nearly impossible in difficulty, or so I've heard.
on a heavily modded version of the game, I'm stuck on a mission that shouldn't be hard, collecting cop bikes from around VS, but even with the teleporting mod, I can't beat it.

>>7162
The mission where you have to save mad dogg from killing himself is made impossible because he jumps before you can get the truck in position to save him

>>7162
Let's see, from what I remember the game froze pretty often, and maybe something else. I don't really remember since it has been years since I've played SA.

>>7180
I had no idea that that sort of stuff happened. I thought that only your rank would stay low and freeze constantly if you've done them enough times. I've used cheat codes for everything and abused them to beat tough missions or for anything. I knew a bunch of codes by heart and would input them within a second. I would also use them during cutscenes just because I could. I had a ton of fun recruiting randoms and giving them a set of pretty good machine guns, then getting on my self-spawned 4-wheeler and giving myself a jetpack while flying at high speeds through the sky, then crashing as hard as I could wherever I needed to be (or gently landing on the road/sidewalk/wherever if I felt like it). Whenever somebody gave me a weapon I didn't like I'd always switch to my trusty OHKO Desert Eagle with enough bullets to kill every NPC in my way and enough to last me more than half of the game. I think that I've also changed the weather whenever it was unsuitable. Anyway, I abused those codes way, way too much.

>>7182
I remember something like that. I think that I probably got through that by spawning the truck or something. I don't remember much of what i did and I don't even remember if I beat it (which would be a shame since I got pretty far). I did so much that all I remember is being a dick to the NPCs and abusing the codes to kill enemies in cool ways.

Oh, and I should note that I did this on the old PS2.

using money and wealth as a incentive when there's nothing to buy, or money is not needed in the game.
What the fuck do I care if the characters are rich or not?

>>7184
GTA4 was really bad about this. Even in the logic of the story he had a ton of cash (he robbed a damn bank) but he still acts like he's so poor he will do anything for money

>>7187
At the end of the end of the game you can easily become broke becuase there's not really any way to make money to pay for weapons and ammo.

>>7188
Wait by an ATM and mug someone after they use it, or blow up an armored car

I hate models clipping into each other. It ruins it for me...

I hate grinding and other forced time-sinks. Comic related as I would love a game like that.

>>7191
That seems extremely tedious.

>>7255
Much like the rest of the game

>>4328
>>4329
Did someone say sequels?
Add StarCraft2 and Diablo3 to the list of bad sequels...

im tired of video games trying to be all


you know??

>>7307
I don't

>>7307
short Ford Driver pandering dumbed down easy interactive movies controled by greedy corporations that sell half done games upfront and the rest in DLC or preorderes?

Locking down copies of games until some arbitary event happens. It riles me up...

<- This is why always-online is bad, mmkay?

>>7414
how much downtime does Steam actually have?

>>7417
Having used Steam in 3 years, I've yet to experience it.

I've never seen the actual game service side of steam go down, but the community section goes down all the time

>>7456
Not having 100% uptime means that it was to go down sometime...

>>6514
All the things you hate about Versus Fighting Games in one package!
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/171041/Opinion_The_many_reasons_Street_Fighter_X_Tekken_sold_less_than_expected.php
Excelsior!

Tired of game-breaking glitches
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/10/borderlands-2-characters-killed-off-by-virally-spreading-sabotage-attack/

Every time I see steam downloading an update, I get a little excited thinking that maybe a game I play is getting a problem fixed, or new content. Nope! It's another 100MB+ Garry's Mod update. Every. Single. Time. It's gotten to the point where that little picture of Gman in the bathtub with balloons haunts me in my sleep

>>7531
Mandatory and massive updates patches. PS3 has it and now Wii U has it too.
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/11/reports-botched-firmware-update-leading-to-bricked-wii-u-consoles/

>>7605
what does that have to do with steam, or garrys mod

I hates copycats. If you copy, please add to it. Otherwise, it is soulless.

For example, Xuan Dou Zhi Wang (China's CopyCat Fighter)
http://www.capcom-unity.com/bigmex/blog/2012/12/04/the-frankenstein-approach-to-fighters

Crammed in RPG elements, most games are now skinner boxes.

I searched with cntrl+F for "turn based combat"

Seriously?
a 200 post thread?

I am tired of that, beyond belief. Sure, I loved those games in the early 90's and all, but they STILL make games like that? holy mother. I thought Final fantasy finally evolved with their 12th game which had an amazing combat system, its a damn shame that wasn't expanded on into the next game. The combat should have been fast paced, no pausing, pick an action or spell for the situation based on your proximity to the monsters and things like that. Adding things like action ques if you are confident enough with characters, switching weapon types mid fight. The license board was great but needed a limit of license points. The world is one I can't even find a comparison to in final fantasy history. It was like a larger and more open saga frontier.
How did they mess up that badly in 13!!!

not only final fantasy though, but games like atlier and others. Or at least add some more depth like what I hear pokemon games have, with breeding stats and other crazy things.

New combat systems, please!

>>7787
I'm tired of this too. What's the obsession with RPG elements anyway? Is it because people like big numbers?

>>7789
Turn based combat is still appropriate for games where there is a lot of decision making.

>>7824

What he meant to say is that he's sick of (tradional) jRPGs. I say traditional but I think most people who do like them don't really think of non-turn based RPGs as jRPGs (myself included), not even series such as Tales of. I mean, is there really any reason to do so instead of coming up with a new label? For exmaple you don't call Mass Effect a cRPG, people came up wRPG instead (I'm very grateful to them, I really like cRPGs).

As for myself I like jRPGs for what they are. If I had been born some 10 years ago I would hate them for sure because they are archaic and - to be perfectly honest - boring. But playing them now reminds me of the times when I was having a blast playing all the Lufias, Manas, Chrono Triggers, FFs (and countless others) on SNES. In the end it's all about nostalgia. I for one hope they won't completely die out (although ever since DS and PSP bit the dust I see less and less of them).

I know I've brought this up a few times in the past, but I'm just so sick of it.
I'm primarily a console gamer, but sometimes I like to play pc games, and sometimes I like to use a game pad. The thing is, I only play on play station consoles and microsoft has a acquired a monopoly on gamepads in pc games. play station controllers can be used on PC too, but do game makers care? hell no. Even if I use a controller that isin't a xbox controller (or Play station), games with still display xbox buttons, and this drives me fucking nuts. Because I'm so acostomed to playstation buttons I'm always getting buttons mixed up in games. the green A button (at the bottom of the controller)looks like the green triangle button (at the top) on a PS controller, and the blue X button (left I think) looks like, well, the blue X button on a PS controller (bottom). I don't expect everyone to have this problem, but I can't stand this crap. I've even tryed spoofing the pad as a mouse and keyboard, but games will auto detect the pad and assume it's a 360 controller and switch back and forth rapidly between keyboard and xbox icons.
I couldn't tell you how much time I've spent looking into saints row 3 mods just to remove those damn icons (with no luck). It really makes me just not want to play PC games, at lest not the type I believe would be better with a game pad, such as driving games.

I feel like they just do this shit to subtaly ease pc gamers over to xbox. I also wonder if they'll ever force PC games to stop supporting non-microsoft brand keyboards and mice.

>>7846
>I don't expect everyone to have this problem, but I can't stand this crap.
Not a big gamer, but I feel you. However, I just gave up and bought an cheap Xbox type controller at eBay. It'll be wiser, in this case, to just get used to it already than keep on doing all those impossible key customizing that always fire back at some point.

Post edited on 17th Jan 2013, 5:52pm

>>7846
>I feel like they just do this shit to subtaly ease pc gamers over to xbox.

Other way around, they want to subtlety ease xbox gamers into using PCs.
I'm just glad I bought a solid logitech gamepad back when logitech still embraced the ps2-esque controller feel , as their modern controllers are now xbox-esque.

>>7847
get a gamepad with a real D-pad. it makes all the difference in the world.

For me, this really was the zenith of controller design. They all totally lost the way afterwards.

>>7846
Tohno, that image isn't helping you

the best thing to remember is the locations of the buttons. Xbox and Playstation have similar layouts in that the bottom of the cross is accept and the right of the cross is cancel. Triangle to Y are easy enough to remember, but X may throw you for a loop.

>>7849
Oh, the lesbian's controller. I hated the fucking thing. The 360 controller is basically the first controller I have seen suitable for actual human hands.

>>7848
>I'm just glad I bought a solid logitech gamepad back when logitech still embraced the ps2-esque controller feel
Same here, I got mine like six years ago.
But yeah I guess I could believe that about pushing people over to PC, since they've ported all their biggest 'exclusives' to PC.

>>7847
The problem with trying to learn it, is how similar and backwards the buttons are. I guess I might say it would be like trying to learn a new number system, where some of the symbols for numbers got switched around. like if 1 was actually six, and 5 was nine. The new numerical order would be something like 62H491P85. Getting used to something like that would drive anyone insane.

>>7850
>I hated the fucking thing.
that's why you never learned to do a proper fingerin'

>>7850
>the lesbian's controller
Huh? What do you mean by that?

>The 360 controller is basically the first controller I have seen suitable for actual human hands.
I'm confused about this as well; the 360 controller is essentially a PS2/3 controller with renamed buttons. I suppose the main controller stick is in a different place, but I find both places to be comfortable.

>>7853
I personally like the symmetry in the ps controller.

>>7853

Ah, to be young and innocent again.

>>7855
I suppose you could just be a cryptic asshole instead of answering the question. That's cool too.

>>7856
I think he means that the long holders can prove useful as a double dildo for face to face lesbian fun. Or (like in >>7852) that the SOP for the left hand, at central position, sort of reminds stimulating the clitoris (joystick) and frontal wall of the vagina (z button) at the same time...

Would have hidden all that for lewd, but the spoiler police would come to get me.

>>7857
I see. I guess its holders are slightly longer than most controllers.

This is what happens when you give a N64 to a 14 year old.

>>7853

>I'm confused about this as well; the 360 controller is essentially a PS2/3 controller with renamed buttons.

I have a hard time believing anyone who ever held both controllers could say something like that. First od all PlayStation controllers are TINY. Could they be any smaller? They are a pain to hold... Or rather, with my hands they are impossible to hold at all. Now, I realize I have pretty fucking big hands so part of this is only my biased perspective but even with normal sized hands I can't imagine someone could hold those handles comfortably. Too damn short.

Compared to that Xbox's are a bit longer and the pad itself is profiled nicely. If anything the 360 pad is a Wavebird 2.0 with a fucked up button placement. Having an analogue stick above a D-pad is a huge plus for me but the button placement sucks. I have a hard time pressing the B button, it's too fucking close to the edge.

Paying to play beta versions of unfinished games.... releasing games regardless of how unfinished it is because you can patch it out later. Such a bad practice.

>>7886
it gets worse.
delaying content that was supposed to be in the original game due to being "unfinished", and then adding it to the expansion so you have to buy the expansion to get the fucking content.
like D3's pvp.

at the very least, the way battlefield II did it, where pre-ordering the game got you into the closed beta, that wasn't too bad. I remember people complaining about the beta feeling unfished and buggy, and then canceling their pre-order because of it, and lots more people laughing at them for being complete morons. As long as the company is honest about what they are doing, there really shouldn't be any complaints.

>>7509
>>7886
Capcom really messed it up with SFxT. Now version 1.08 is supposedly the game it's meant to be? No thanks.
"Fool me once..."

>>6282
The only think worse than a franchise going to weird places is the badly REBOOTED franchise.

>>8078
Both of those look wrong if you ask me.

>>8078
Gotta love reboots

>>8083
Why is there no pic for crash?

>>8079
I agree.

>>8083
Aside from the obvious, I think that the person who made that was grasping for straws, especially since they added Ike when there hasn't been a reboot to the FE series as far as I know.

>>8084
Probably because Crash is dead. However it seems random that he's there at all since there's no reason for him to be there since I don't think that he has had a reboot at all.

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

>>8085
well, after the ps1 era, crash did go on to get a new (shitty)series of games with a new publisher on the ps2, also got a couple crappy psp games. But as far as I know he hasn't had anything on ps3, which might be why there's a blank. but like you said, he shouldn't even be there if that's the case.

Bitching about the framerates.

Excessive DRM preventing fun mods like this~ http://youtu.be/DPzGYKSnSmI

Micro-payments aren't that small...

>>8093
This is just one of the many reasons why EA needs to die.

>>8094
EA is dead to me. How do you FAIL at SIMCITY?

http://www.ausgamers.com/news/read/3279709/ea-suspends-simcity-marketing-campaigns-servers-too-full-from-players-having-fun

I hate serious issues at launch. Beta test more, mmkay?
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/03/unready-for-takeoff-the-five-worst-pc-game-launches-that-arent-simcity/

I believe in the future that the trend of monetisation will continue and companies will outright disregard player satisfaction in pursuit of profits. Eventually it becomes the new norm and the industry creatively stagnates, like with corporate music and film.

A game that I've been playing the past year (Realm of the Mad God) just banned all my other accounts which I were using to store equipment and level-up potions, destroying all my grinding and hard work. If you look at the official forums for the game, 50% of the discussion is simply players complaining about the monetisation of the game and the company not giving a shit about the players. I lost patience and put the game on Leechblock. I can complain further, but I'm not patient enough to waste any further time on that kind of rant.

All my HATE
http://www.dorkly.com/article/43719/15-things-youll-never-hear-gamers-say

>>8135
I'm sure gamers say that stuff all the time, Sarcastically. which is what most of those sound like.

>>8108
Ha ha
http://investor.ea.com/releasedetail.cfm?ReleaseID=749234
Burn, EA, burn!

I hate glitches!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7nPgbyYgs8

It drives me nuts when your characters walking and running speeds don't match that of NPCs. I know it's a little on the trivial side, but when you're following someone(or the other way around) and you have to keep stopping for them to catch up or keep tapping the forward button to stay in pace with them, it kind of brakes the flow and I can't understand why it's so common. if you get distracted or something, the npc can just wait for you. There's no reason why the npcs couldn't be made to walk a tinny bit faster.

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*sigh* where did it go so wrong?

http://www.pixelpoppers.com/2013/03/uninformed-economic-voters.html

I hates people that hack my gaming account
http://arstechnica.com/security/2013/04/war-z-taken-offline-following-hack-that-exposed-user-passwords/
My Blizzard account got hacked too. Why am I so unlucky?!?

I'm tired of players not putting the effort into the video games; come on, step it up!

http://schlaghund.wordpress.com/2010/09/16/playing-to-win-starcraft-ii-addendum/

Poorly made games rushed to be released the same time as a "blockbuster" movie. Why?
<- latest example: http://www.abc.net.au/tv/goodgame/stories/s3748566.htm

>>8285
This looks like a Robot Chicken skit from the thumbnail.

>>8285
Heh, it does too....

Can the games-industry make a FPS that has more colour range than just brown & grey?
http://www.therefinedgeek.com.au/index.php/2013/05/24/mars-war-logs-im-roy-temperance-and-this-is-my-story/

Too much emphasis on nostalgia...

I'm no prude but can there be more female costumes that aren't designed just to show skin?

TPS and FPS games being just about shooting in interactive hallways, said hallways are usually also laden with cutscenes.

This is the main reason why I've hated MoH, GoW, Uncharted and CoD since their inception. And their multiplayer, good fucking god it has always been shit too. Red Orchestra, BF1942 and ET are much better and each try to do innovative or interesting things.

I also hate 3d platformers where double jumping or a homing dash is used to make platforming easier instead of having the devs/testers do their job. Crash Bandicoot Wrath of Cortex, and the Modern Sonic games are both heavily guilty of this.

I hate game trailers that make no sense
<- my face when that happens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTM-J8rXRB4
*Killer is Dead*

>>8501
><- my face when that happens

Doing it in a different way doesn't make it any less stupid.

>>8501
Hate it as much as you want but it's a legitimate marketing tactic. It tells the audience that this is a frantic thriller with twists and turns. It even makes more sense when you take into consideration that this game is just as pulp fiction as Killer 7 was. Which is no surprise since it is a Suda 51 work.

I'm tired of collector's Edition with stuff I can't ignore. My wallet is crying.

Not video games per se but just bad hardware design like this;
http://pineconeattack.com/2010/08/20/cable-hack-use-both-the-rca-audio-hdmi-on-the-xbox-360-for-free/

The video-gaming companies' myopic focus on DRM & DLC is grating on me. Stop it!

>>8587
Yeah, this has been pissing me off too. It's getting to the point where the entire gaming market seems to be driving towards a Korean F2P MMORPG approach to microtransactions- only, the base games aren't free to play.

>>8589
Actually there are some games now where the base is a free to play demo. Then you pay for extras and options.
eg. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_or_Alive_5_Ultimate ; see Core Fighter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tekken_Revolution

>>8595
I liked Tekken Revolution, but the free versions are meant to attract new people to the franchise and not rip you off.

I'm sick of seeing everything ripping of anything that's good now, seems developers are scared to think out of the box.

Also mobile games getting ported to PC, keep that bloatware as far as possible from my hardware.

>>8599
Tekken Revolution is more a demo than a dlc-fest? Ok, I stand corrected.

I hope Arkham Origins can still be as good even with a new studio doing it.
That annoys me. Changing game-studios for no good reason.

>>8454
No.

Sprites are dead. There is only 8-bit or 3d graphics now.
*sigh*
http://pastebin.com/eMd8rh4G

>>10355
You mean like everyone who is doing sprite art just does really basic things? There are still a few games like Radio The Universe which demonstrate really high-quality work with pixels, but yes, those are rare.

I also think that low-poly is going to be a trend soon. I hope I am right, because that style is neat.

>>10360
Like this? Play as "Classic" Snake in his low-res polygon mode.
http://www.thesixthaxis.com/2013/11/15/metal-gear-solid-vs-deja-vu-mission-exclusive-to-playstation/

>>8674
Don't ever get THE KLUB 17 then...

The main character talks.

I hate it.

Time-restricted free 7.5Gb digital downloads

http://www.ausgamers.com/news/read/3394740/valve-gives-left-4-dead-2-for-christmas-steam-goes-down

I guess STEAM servers are now Left2Die. =P

>>10448
The desperation is strong with this one.

>>10404
>>10448
Things you're tired of seeing in videogames

this is not videogames this is news.

>>10452
I dunno but I for one am tired of seeing reviewers get bought off for good reviews.

Losing money paying games...
http://games.slashdot.org/story/14/01/28/2143259/largest-yet-eve-online-battle-destroys-200000-worth-of-starships

I don't like how modern games reward you for every little thing you do. Finished the tutorial? here's an achievement. Watched a cutscene? That's another achievement. Talked to some random NPC? +500 XP! Solved a puzzle even someone with down syndrome could figure out? Here, have $10,000!

Another thing I don't like is the sandbox concept. It's cool at first, but then you realize that a game can get boring when the map seems too massive and there are a million possible things to do and the game doesn't really give you much direction as to where to go. That's how I felt when I played Just Cause 2. And a lot of the "new" areas I would explore honestly didn't feel all that different from some old places. When there's a giant map, they do reuse a lot of models and space stuff out.

15% of sales from dlc...
http://www.capcom.co.jp/ir/english/data/explanation.html

Changing studios in the middle of a series of games.
Arkham Origins wasn't bad but it was missing something that Rocksteady had.
At least, WB has returned to the original studio that started the Arkham franchise...

>>10471
Achievement trophies for everything. Passing the tutorial- trophy. Your first kill- trophy. Seriously, stop it.

Arghhhh. I hate unnecessary gimping to placate consoles ala http://games.on.net/2014/06/ubisoft-explains-why-certain-watch-dogs-enhancements-were-disabled/

I dislike games that need mods to playable. *koff*Skyrim*koff* Still, some of the best mods expand the offical game ala http://www.arimyth.com/hell.htm . I can live those those kinds of mods.

>>10665
>negative impacts. Those could range from performance issues,
you've got to be kidding me. That's what video settings are fucking for!

Connecting to internet for singleplayer, aka DRM or anything that is "anti-piracy" but only ends up encouraging people to pirate

Anything that amounts to resembling an "Over the shoulder Third person shooter"

Free too play, or what it really is, pay to win

Retro style in indie games, despite the game not playing retro or worse, not even being a game, not to mention retro style just looking like giant "pixels" and nothing like old games. Shit like that makes the game look like a joke or an insult, or just seems like a way of saying "I can't draw, so here's my attempt at retro style!"

Generic brown war FPS

What passes as "Art" these days

DLC at launch, pre-order exclusives, excessive DLC that you can't possibly buy all of without selling all your belongings

EA

Crap map design that basically amounts to "Good looking hallway"

Every game either being FPS or (if it's big budget) random sandbox game (even though some times sandbox games can be legendary, other times they could just be another uninteresting one or just end up being forgotten because GTA isn't in the title)

Every Western RPG either being Medieval times or Post Apocalypse, with occasional space opera

Bullshit Distopian future (the whole thing has been overdone, not everything has to be Half Life 2)

Every game being Half Life 2

Every game being Call of Duty

I think I could go forever here

>>10466
They didn't lose real money. You can convert real money into ISK by buying an in-game item that gives you a month of playtime then selling the item. However, you cannot convert ISK into real money.

Annoyingly lengthy publisher intros, especially the unskippable kind. For some games I just want to jump in/out quickly and don't need a two minute long reminder of who made the game every time. sometimes they can be disabled by replacing the video files with a blank one, but not always.

When the sequel goes backwards in any way whatsoever. Gameplay mechanics changed for the worse or removed, bad level design, ruining the story and killing off fan-favourite characters, etc.

The up-coming Sims really takes the cake on this one and I thought SC's changes were awful.

When rights for franchises are forced from the hands of the original creators. There are several instances, but what comes to mind first is Guitar Hero. Made even worse by the fact that it was Activision who bought it and then proceeded to flood the market and run the franchise into the ground. And then some people so incredibly stupid that they thought Rock Band was the knock-off, when it was the original Guitar Hero developers.

>>10720
>When rights for franchises are forced from the hands of the original creators.
Kind of reminds me of when Evan Wells was asked if he was disappointed that other people were working on the newest Crash game and he said "It's a bit like watching your daughter do porn."

>And then some people so incredibly stupid that they thought Rock Band was the knock-off, when it was the original Guitar Hero developers.
I wonder if this is going to happen to Harvest Moon's new name Story of Seasons while Harvest Moon is going to be attached to something else entirely.

Plus you learn something new everyday. Dire shame, but Rock Band was pretty good.

>>10720
At least, some creators will make SPIRITUAL successors. RIP Diablo, RIP Megaman.

Random events determining progression. In Rune Factory 4 I'm five years past completing arc 2 and the event for arc 3 still hasn't triggered. I have married everyone on different saves, raised every crop to level 10, completed all possible requests, bought the 198M house, but I can't progress until a random event triggers.
This is the first time I have encountered something like this in a game and I hope I never encounter it again.

Price rises for not being a USAian...
http://games.on.net/2014/09/middle-earth-shadow-of-mordor-just-went-up-22-on-steam/

>>10921
How does that even apply to steam? Can't you just set your location to USA or use a free USA VPN to buy your games at normal price?

>>10923
I figure they can check with your credit card operator, it's not unheard of people losing their accounts by faking their location to get lower prices.

But yeah, companies and governments imposing physical world-like constraints on digital goods is a bitch, not only in videogames.

You buy the blue-ray disc but it STILL needs another 20Gb of patches? Might as well sell it as a digital 65Gb game....
http://games.on.net/2014/10/halo-master-chief-collection-20gb-patch/
I'm sure all of us have South Korean broadband...
http://stopthecap.com/2014/10/14/south-korea-prepares-10gbps-broadband-transfer-1gb-file-0-8-seconds/
*sigh*

Anti-heroes. Those edgy cunts are so generic and overused, I instantly gloss over any game that has one.

Mmmm...money
http://games.on.net/2014/11/assassins-creed-unitys-microtransactions-cost-up-to-99-99/

>>11178
DLC coming soon