>>24866
I feel part of the issue is that no one seems willing to genuinely *discuss* things anymore. Rather, forums/boards (likely following in the footsteps of social media) have become more akin to a "peanut gallery" where people instead react to others' posts. This might have started with Twitter, where the bite-size post length precludes any meaningful discussion in the first place, which is then compounded by the reply system, hijacking any discussion about ideas and turning into a spam of reactions and buzzwords. Everyone feels compelled to voice some opinion and engage at a superficial level, whether or not they have something substantive to say in the first place.

>>24974
Maybe people doesn't discuss things because liking things isn't accepted anymore, you need to show deep layers of irony that make any genuine feel impossible.
Lately I've been feeling truly old, and by that I mean I don't understand the younger generations and everything they do seem horrendous to me. I guess it had to happen but it's too soon to feel like that.

>>24982
>liking things isn't accepted anymore
Depends on what you like and how you like it. The more normal an interest is, the more genuinely passionate you can openly be about it generally. Here's a rough graph I pulled out of my ass.

>>24983
I was talking about the supposed nerdiest part of society, normalfags have always been like that.
You know, the "ironic" fans and all that shit.

>>24984
>the supposed nerdiest part of society
Doesn't exist. There's just people who are mostly normalfags are people who mostly aren't. There's only a tenuous correlation between what a person says their interests are, and how much of a normalfag they are. With stuff in the middle of the graph, there's little correlation. Stuff on the far ends are more reliable.

>>24985
Though in the past, anime would be further left.

>>24983
That is true. I knew a guy who was obsessed over association football. I guess you could describe him as a football otaku to give a better idea.

He is, legitimately retarded. His social interactions are downright stupid and senseless. He randomly screams his favorite team name out of his lungs. Often you ask him something simple and he either ignores (whilst looking at you) or takes 10 seconds to respond. Yet people think he's a very funny and good person, and often ask him about match results and bets.

Hell. I had people quit talking to me the moment I told them I don't like CS:GO much and prefer other types of vidya. Of course they've heard about Divinity or Cities: Skylines....

You are not allowed to stray away from what's popular in your social circles.

>>24987
Yeah, this is pretty much all true. People have to physically punish themself when "their team" loses for others to just suspect they're taking football too far. There's all kinds of rituals and superstitions. Even obsessing over digital, imaginary football isn't seen as weird either. It's that extremely normal and ingrained in popular culture.

I'm tired of 4chan's endless buzzwords. It's like no one can come up with any original thoughts anymore so they rely on tired latest meme to express their opinions.
Calling out this behaviour is useless, it just amounts to being told to relax and stop "sperging out".

>>25028
I think it's not only 4chan but a whole generation that's changing into that.
It's like they are mimicking AI, where's whole threads that could have been the work of an AI programmed to copy their behavior, you couldn't notice the difference. There's something really inhuman about it.

>>25031
Maybe that's the result of the ubiquity of social media in allowing Ideas, slang, and trends to be disseminated almost instantly and uniformly. Creativity and uniqueness seems to require a small, slightly isolated pool in which culture can develop. If you breach that and make it a free-for-all, what you're left with is ideas that have no coherence among themselves, like too many cooks in a kitchen.

Funny enough just saw this thread after posting >>33818. I'm almost 30 but just decided to move back in with my parents, and work on getting a university degree. Started using chan sites around 05ish. Most people my age that I know have moved onto their careers.

As you get older, your perception of time begins to speed up. And you realize that you're running out of time as well. So you start to assign different priorities to what you spend your time doing.

I think they moved to social media with the rest of there cliques.

>>25160
By social media do you mean facebook et al. or chat platforms like Discord?

Imageboards are dead OP everyone and their uncle and grandma knows what 4chan is now and even this website which advertises itself as a place for social outcast has hyper social normalfags on it who are married and go clubbing at rave parties and it is ran by a sensitive snowflake who can't take criticism so he deleted /fb/ like a pussy ass bitch. Most of the original people who posted on imageboards in the 2000s are either dead now or they got out of that state in their lives where they were losers and became normalfags themselves and fixed their lives and moved on.

>>25162
>became normalfags themselves and fixed their lives
No anon, you are the normalfags. You think they are winning because you still play their game, but the normals have lost themselves in their own competition and forgotten how to truly live.

>>25163
Just ignore this retard. If he didn't just come back every few months to complain and watamote post, he would know /fb/ is open.

Post edited on 11th Jan 2020, 8:09am

>>25164

I already knew that and besides that's not my point asshole and it doesn't take away from the fact that Tohno can't take criticism and that he did delete /fb/ and it was gone for awhile and despite how the site is advertised as a place for nerds and losers it is full of hyper social normalfags.

>>25163

That literally makes no sense.

>>25165
Not to derail the thread (although I think it's run it's course anyway), but do you have anything to back up the claim that
>it is full of hyper social normalfags
I've not once seen mention of clubbing or any other "hyper social" activities. At best (worst?) there are occasional mentions of having online friends.

>>25165
>losers
Losers, huh? Last time I checked, the acrnoym is: True Otaku Hikikomori Neet Organization Channel
Hmmm, I don't see loser there. Your mindest is the core of the problem. You don't understand, and you can't understand. If you want a site for "losers", go to wizardchan.

Post edited on 11th Jan 2020, 12:58pm

>>25169
I don't see any point in trying to reason with someone when they resort to name calling. Like the other anon said this person is best ignored.

>>25168
>Do you have anything to back up the claim that

What claim specifically? that Tohno can't take criticism? anon it is all in his actions and how he responds to certain users basically calling anyone who criticize him and how he runs the site a backseat driver and deleting /fb/ because he wants to silence his critics. He also contrdicts himself a lot and also comes off as very narcissistic as well. A lot of the board rules on here are also very inconsistent contradict each other and are not even serious rules but instead sarcastic fake rules as well for example shitposting is against the rules but Tohno has an entire /b/ like board dedicated to it called /lol/ it is almost like this website is a joke.


>I've not once seen mention of clubbing or any other "hyper social" activities. At best (worst?) there are occasional mentions of having online friends.

Go on /ot/ and look at the normalfag bingo thread many anons admit to being married going to parties and being hyper social in that thread i already exposed this months ago and when i created a thread about it Tohno shut it down because he knows i'm right it is still in the catalog you can take a look for yourself these normalfags think being a normalfag is just a way of thinking (Mindset) and not a word that describes a specific type of person when in reality it is both a mindset and a word to describe a person. Being a social outcast doesn't mean you're a non-conformist who goes his/her own way no a social outcast is someone who is excluded from social life or society as a whole like the quiet weird kid in class who gets bullied and becomes a school shooter.

>>25169

NEETs Hikikomori and real Otaku are losers you dumbfuck.

>>25173
I may be wrong but I don't think I've ever used the term "backseat driver", and if I silenced people who criticize me why are your posts still up?

>>25175

Okay i will give you that but didn't you lock the thread? also pic related to refresh your memory.

>>25176
Fair enough.

>>25174
No, we are biwinners!

>>25178

Is that supposed to be some stupid Charlie Sheen reference or something? one of the most normalfag things ever.

>>25173
Reminder that Satou had sex in the novel and Tomoko eventually gets friends in the manga.

>>25180
>Satou had sex in the novel

Satou lost his virginity at 18 not while he was underage and i have said this before and i will say it again normalfags and failed normalfags are both different Satou is a failed normalfag also reminder in the original novel Satou was a pedophile who got into collecting 3D child porn because of Yamazaki novel Satou is way more realistic and relatable than the anime or manga version to be honest.

>Tomoko eventually gets friends in the manga.

To be fair there is nothing wrong with a person wanting to or trying to change their life and if they want to get out of that state of being an outcast and live a more normal life then that's great more power to them.

>>25181
>Satou lost his virginity at 18 not while he was underage

So? Is that meant to prove he isn't that normal because it's normal to lose it younger than that? In the west maybe but in Japan the average age is mid 20's so it would actually run counter to your point.

>>25182
> in Japan the average age is mid 20's so it would actually run counter to your point.

Not really the majority of the current generation of young people in Japan aren't even interested in having sex in the first place which has contributed to the country's population decline the herbivore men are literally just Japanese MGTOW and the himono onna or dried-fish women are just the female version of that.

>>25184
No, they just don't have the western dating culture that we do, the age they lose their virginity most often coincides with the age they get married.

What the fuck does any of this have to do with the subject of the thread.

>>25185
>No, they just don't have the western dating culture that we do, the age they lose their virginity most often coincides with the age they get married.

We are pretty much both right.

>>25181
Wasn't that scene also in the anime? I think it was lightened up but I'm sure the core idea was there.

>>25188

In the anime and manga they changed it from being actual CP to lolicon but it is still implied that it is pedo content.

>>25187
Not really, I don't see where you get the idea for it considering the amount of smut that Japan still produces. The population decline thing isn't actually unique to Japan, the reason it's declining is because it's both first world and with a relatively small immigration rate. The Native populations of most western nations are also in decline and when it's not in decline it's because it's in a large nation that has room to expand into as with Australia and the US.

>>25190
Another likely reason is that Japan has been going in and out of recession for most of the last 30 years. If you can only barely find a crap job that let's you afford a shitty 10 tatami apartment you'll have a hard time attracting a partner, let alone having kids. AFAIK the correlation of the economic situation and births is pretty robust. I think the western media promotes the "Japan is so weird XD" angle because they know that the west is due for a similar, or likely much worse, reckoning soon.

>>25191
Yes, this is another reason, the economy hasn't grown since the 90s. There is also the crowded nature of Japan at 334.62 people per square kilometre and another factor could be the world wide trend of an increasingly professional female population. Regardless the common narrative has little to do with it and makes little sense to begin with, after all how much s*x people have doesn't actually correlate to the fertility rate, it's possible to do it a million times and have no children or 10 times and have 10 children, it's only a very superficial connection.

>>25191

Of course population decline is not specifically unique to Japan i never said it was. That being said however Japan is nothing like America at all with only a few pocket similarities and in countries that have a declining population it effects each country differently and there are also things unique to that specific culture that play a part in the country's population decline things like karoshi are unique to Japan and don't happen anywhere else also don't pretend that herbivore men and himono onna or dried-fish women do not exist or simply don't make up a large amount of the young people in Japan because they actually do if you read news articles or read or listen to interviews by young Japanese people. Although not all a lot of them seem to have given up on the idea of relationships and sex plus Japan has a huge old population and when it comes to dating most Asian women go for white western men anyway instead of full blooded Japanese men if more and more foreigners keep going to Japan and destroying the country and Americanizing it in years time there will be an entire generation of hapas (Half white Half Asian people) in Japan instead of pure Japanese and they will become extinct Japan needs to stop kissing America's ass and kick all the weebs and niggers out of the country multiculturalism is only good in moderation only let people in who will respect your culture people like those cringey Youtubers need to be kicked out of the country.

>>25191

Almost everyone fights for the top level office jobs there is a lot of competition for them. If you dropout of school in Japan or even become a NEET you're basically fucked. It is not like the west where you can just go back and get back into things the only jobs you could get if you can't get a office job are basically Freeter type jobs.

Getting that feeling again. I don't feel at home anywhere on the internet these days and it's so suffocating. There's places like these but they're all so slow that I post something, go away for months at a time and come back to the same threads. It's like physically mailing letters. There's nowhere left to go but ghost towns and hives of normalfags. Even if I found some like minded people to talk to on a private discord or something like that it wouldn't be the same. Posters being totally anon is such a liberating thing that even having a fake identity feels gay now. Everywhere else feels so ego driven and it makes me sick

>>25196
I don't think you can have both quality and speed. The faster it gets in a place like this the less time people will spend on posts. I think you eventually get people developing a mindset of "why should I bother putting effort into my post if it's going to be gone in a few hours anyway?"

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>>24821
Please, for the love of God, say you're still here mages. I've wondered where we were scattered to and I'm glad to find so many of us here. A /tower/ replacement was created sometime last year on anon.cafe, but as luck would have it the site was taken down this week due to a spammer attacking the site. Luckily we had a bunker at the ready this time and we're currently located on https://julay.world/tower/ Normally I wouldn't post a full link but I doubt that there's any risk of posting it here. I hope you make it there.

>>25297
I was on the OG wiz from the beginning to the end. I never used any of the offshoots. I don't know what your community looks like now but I'm a permanently /so/ ronery feeler of that feel so I don't think I'm the kind of user you're looking for.

>>25297
I'm still here.
I didn't know there was a replacement! The place seems kinda dead though.

>>25297
>still on a rickety multi board site instead of being on it's own domain
>talk in the meta thread about advertising on /r9k/
MC is kill, and there's no reviving that last vestige of comfy wiz culture. It's dead and gone as far as I'm concerned, sorry mate.