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24553 No. 24553 [Edit]
Hello. I am 15 years old, and I saw no specific rules about not being able to post if you are under 18?
Hopefully I am allowed to post.
Now saying that I may frustate some of you (and for good reason), however I will say that I will not post anything outside of this thread, and I will try to be respectful, and here are some things about myself.
-I don't have any friends, in real life or online.
-Almost all of my time outside of school, and not sleeping I have been on this world wide web, (since I was 3, my mom put me on a preschool website and just let me wander)
-Anime wise, I don't actually have that many under my belt, because i'm scared of watching a bad one, but I very much love anime and Japanese content. Some animes that I have liked are, A Place Farther than the Universe, Welcome to the NHK, Non Non Biyori, and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
-I'm unable to speak to anyone besides my family in real life because of how shy I am
-I'm autistic
-I don't have any dreams for the future, or willpower to be able to do anything.
-I don't have/use any social media, or a phone
-I am very much interested in the old internet, being of my age I have only experienced a little of only well, 2007ish internet, and I can not remember much of my experiences around that time besides a handful. I browse archives of old websites, and look at old dead forums a lot, encyclopedia dramatica articles about internet events that have long been forgotten and I very much like these small website communities, where if you don't know where to look you will never find them. I don't very much like most of this 2019 internet, as I feel a lot of it's fun and soul have been taken away.
I like the people on here, and I would like to learn about things from you. I know generally older people are smarter than younger people. I personally would love to tell my 8 year old self a lot of things. If anyone can tell me about there experiences, or just general knowledge, about otaku culture, the old internet, or anything really I will be very grateful.
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>> No. 24554 [Edit]
I've only seen welcome to the NHK out of those animes, I am meaning to watch Non Non Biyori at some point though.
I don't think there is anything that similar to NHK but Biyori seems similar to Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka? or Mitsuboshi colours, that's why it is on my list to watch.


> 2007ish internet
I'm 26 and I haven't even experienced 2007 internet.
>> No. 24556 [Edit]
>>24554
Oh, I checked out the general plot of Gochuumon and Mitsuboshi on Wikipedia and they seem pretty cool! Thanks!
About 2007 internet, maybe I haven't experienced it much directly (I would be around 4, I probably only have 1 memory of that) but I have seen a lot of flash type content from around that time from Newgrounds and such.
>> No. 24557 [Edit]
You should watch higurashi no naku koro ni
>> No. 24559 [Edit]
Why do you feel the need to tell us your age? I was online at your age too and i'm sure a lot of other people on imageboards also were. You're supposed to hide that shit. If you want to know more, just lurk. That's more efficient than asking people for a guide. Also, don't be afraid of watching something you don't like.
>> No. 24561 [Edit]
I'm sorry to hear about your hardships. I can relate, I also had a hopeless and lonely childhood.
The only thing I can suggest is try not to be like me.
I'm sorry, I know this isn't answering any of your questions but it's all I can think of right now.
I'm twice your age and I'm crippled by regret. I feel it constantly the entire time I'm awake, I hate myself and this life.
I thought I'd eventually get used to being an outcast and stop caring but I never did, as I get older it only hurts more.

You're a different person of course so maybe you will be fine, maybe you're already at peace with your situation. Or maybe you will even change, who knows.
But I know that the despair of all-around rejection and loneliness in the 13-18 period of my life is what ruined me forever, and it never went away.
I'm an idiot. Even though the real world only hurt me I could never stop dreaming about being accepted, about friends and love. I don't even know if these things are real or possible but somehow it's what I always wanted and I can't help it.
In the end I was too weak, scared and damaged to ever do anything about it, so who am I to tell you what to strive for?
I just don't want anyone to suffer like me, I want to believe there is a way out.

I don't know how. Sometimes I think I should have just forced myself to leave my room and keep trying to reach out and connect with people no matter what. But then I remember the times I tried and failed miserably. I don't know.
What I just did feels like shit too, you came here asking for help and all I could do was to write about myself and my problems.
Forgive me, man. I don't mean to disregard you, I'm just broken and desperate.

As for the old internet not much of it remains, if anything. We're just ghosts lingering in overgrown ruins. You can go sightseeing or digging for artifacts of the past but is it worth your time?
Anyway I think asking was the right thing to do. Of course it's one of the most important rules to always lurk more (sadly it's almost completely ignored by most net users today) but in this case there are things you won't get by simply lurking anymore.
There's a lot of stuff people forgot or stopped caring about. Back in the day you could learn everything you needed to know by just being around but today when the minor sites are slow and no one talks about that shit? I think it's OK to ask.

The age part might understandably bother some anons but otherwise you posted this in the right place and in a considerate manner so it's OK in my book. You seem like a good guy too.

You're right about the current mainstream internet. It's almost entirely a soulless corporate product for average Joes now. Use it if you need, just stay sane and don't get too involved in bullshit.

Good luck newfriend. May these forgotten corners of the web bring you much amusement still.
You have time, I hope you find your place in the world. Don't give up. You don't deserve a cold and sad future.
>> No. 24562 [Edit]
AHAHAHAHA another sheep into the grinder. Welcome to the club. Since I am pretty young myself and rarely has the chance to lord over the younger generation, I'll use this chance to titillate my ego. If you're anything like me or some of the people then the first thing I want to say to you is that things will not get better. Life is hard and yours, or rather ours, happens to be harder than the average. But how about those successful people who was once a loser and managed to have a fulfilled life you ask? Well, survivorship bias. That doesn't mean that you should just sit and rot to death. If you aren't going to kill yourself then you should be working to make your miserable life on earth less miserable. You seem to be desperate for identity and belonging and seek to find it from this so called imageboard otaku subculture. I was like that too but I stopped because I just ended up acting like a jackass. I am unironically telling you to just be yourself. Not because by being yourself you'll magically succeed at your endeavor, but because your individuality and sense of self will be one of the few things you can still take pride in. Nobody decent spend their life away at imageboards. Don't treat these online cesspools as some kind of sanctuaries, just come here once in a while to lick each other wounds and simulate social interaction for your brain. Oh right, somebody your age would be worrying about life purpose or whatever. Just don't worry about it, it's less important than you think. If you need a reason to get out of bed and do stuff, just imagine yourself being homeless due to unemployment or getting bullied due to being weak. Not fun right? Everybody works to avoid things like that and maybe so they have a sense of accomplishment or can buy stuff. You don't need a grand purpose or ideology. Try to get rid of your attachment to old internet too. People always have a feeling that the grass is greener in the other side. Their life sucks so they try to imagine what ifs situation where they can be happy. This is why some conservatives idealize the 50s or primitivists idealize pre-industrial society even though they have never experience it. The truth is that they're wearing rose tinted glasses and even if they're not it's still impossible to go back in time. These are more or less the advice I'd give to my younger self. Of course we're different individuals and things that works for me probably won't for you.I would still suggest you to leave your comfort zone and put yourself in stress because it is in situation like that that you'll grow in general, question things and figure out what kind of "life advice" you want to follow in your life.
>> No. 24563 [Edit]
>>24554
>seems similar to Gochuumon wa Usagi Desu ka? or Mitsuboshi colours
Slightly off topic for this thread, but I wouldn't really group them together. While they are all slice of life, NNB has a much stronger iyashikei focus compared to Gochiusa. And mitsuboshi colors is definitely further away in terms of feel since it's more of a gag/comedy anime (that I didn't find amusing or heartwarming in the slightest).

In terms of iyashikei+SoL feel, anime close to NNB is probably more along the lines of girls last tour and kemono friends. Next closest might be k-on, gochiusa, yuru camp, dragon maid, and ika musume.

>>24553
If you're interested in old internet and culture, maybe you might be interested in picking up ham radio as a hobby? I've never done it myself but from cursory glances it seems that parts still retain that "old internet" feel (as well as the fact that it's dying).
>> No. 24564 [Edit]
>>24553
My recommendation is to not worry so much about watching a bad anime. It might still appeal to you if others don't like it, and even if you don't you can just drop it and watch something else.
>> No. 24565 [Edit]
>>24553
We can try to be friends if you drop me contact info?

I also really liked Haruhi Suzumiya as a teen, I first got into it at 2008 at 13 when there was still hope that it wouldn't go on the huge hiatus it went. Since then in the decade I've watched it a total of 8 times and it helped me get through the loneliness of school.

The education system in much higher education can be a joke, at least if you take humanities courses, they will try to turn you into NPC SJW.

I really got into games with some irl friends for the second half of high school, but now that I'm well into my 20s it doesn't work like that anyways. I was lucky enough to hang out with a group of weird friends irl, talking about degenerate things and sick and dark jokes for the most part.

Since then I moved onto Smite and Starcraft 2 as my main game fell apart due to imbalance, but even then the working hours take up so much time, so if you NEET appreciate it while you can.

But overall I was pretty shy and hated talking to adults back then.

As a teenager I didn't use a phone at all though either and organized things through email.

I played a good deal of Magic the Gathering and that sort of helped me get out of my shell -- most other players are friendly enough and will teach you how to make lame jokes.

I've wanted to be a writer for a very long time and create my own weeb trash, although I've always knew the success rate was very low. But it's better than no dream overall, and I can go almost anywhere in my mind.
>> No. 24566 [Edit]
>>24565
>We can try to be friends if you drop me contact info?
That's probably not a good a idea. To op, never drop your contact info casually. Doesn't matter where you are or who you're talking to.
>> No. 24568 [Edit]
>>24557 Thanks! I'll also check that out.
>>24559 I do lurk a bit, but I like direct information, mostly the things I can figure out are just bits and fragments. About my age maybe I was wrong and shouldn't of mentioned it but I wanted to see what older people would want to say to someone like me.
>>24561 I enjoyed reading your post, so don't be sorry! I do try a lot to atleast think about how to fix things, but it never works. I do not care much about my situation as I used too. I do like being by myself a bit, I used to care about finding someone who would love and nurture me, but I was able to give up seriously thinking about that besides just fantasizing a year ago. My personal philosophy is life is just a game, and it helps explains a lot, even if it may be flawed in some ways. Friends and all that is just one roleplaying part of the game, you can also have fun with how you would have fun with a sandbox game. If the "game" ever gets too crappy, you can always quit it. About the lurking part, yes I know I can get a fair bit of information by lurking. Thank you for the last few parts.
>>24562 Well, I already know "It gets better" isn't very much true, because that is predicting the future! Nobody can do that with 100% certainty unless they know what everything is doing, and how everything will react. I don't very much care about my worth or worth I have not, I wont post outside of this thread. As for that homelessness and bullying part, yes that is quite a valid reason to do things. Your life getting worse is a good reason to do things! Unfortunately, I believe there is a high chance that my life will get worse, and I may not be able to change it with how I am. I don't know what much is wrong with having an attachment to the old internet? I have accepted that time will never be again, but it's still fun to browse through all the old artifacts. It's kind of akin to being a historian. Many artifacts they find are lost to time, and due to the web not being very well documented, there are some things on this world wide web that probably haven't been mentioned in years. Also I know there was dogshit on the old internet too, even as far back as Usenet times. As for putting yourself in stress to grow, I think I may already do that in a sense. I have tons and tons of time with just myself at school; because I guess special education doesn't even really give a shit that I barely ever go to class, so sometimes for almost 8 hours i'll just sit and have to make up that time with my thoughts. I guess I don't "grow" that much though because most of that time is just me roleplaying in a pretend world I created in my head where I made a bunch of characters and stuff of that sort.
On an unrelated note I like you the word you used "titillate" It is fun, and I am glad you taught me that.
>>24563
Thanks for the recommendations! I already watched Kemono friends (first season), and i'll get around to watching K-on. About amateur radio, I heard a bit about it, but I don't have much money, and I don't know if I could very much talk to other people using the radios? It does seem fun though.
>>24565
I don't know if I could get in those sorts of games, RTS seems too competitive and MMO's usually feel like too much of a grind. As for being a writer, I like thinking about that idea too. I used to do some roleplay, and I wrote a couple short little stories.
>>24566
Why not? I see people give away emails every so often. If I drop a throwaway email, there's not much that could go wrong is there? I guess email viruses exist, but I know not to click on links or the attachments. If it's some human trafficker from South Sudan, then he couldn't just find out where I lived unless he used some elite social engineering skills could he?
>> No. 24570 [Edit]
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24570
Fifteen, fifteen. And you're asking about the 'old' days of 2007? Geeze you're making me feel every year of my age here.

As for your question. I don't really know what to say, sure things were a bit different, shit wasn't all centralized and there were less ford drivers on their phones ruining everything. But really the 2007 days never truly went away. You can still find the same sort of things you'd find back then, this site for instance is much the same as a lot of English chans back then. People still make much the same sort of content they used to in scattered dedicated communities, though there's much less since no one really makes money on it any more because all the growth in the last decade has been in mainstream social media stuff. Now the popular content is all dictated by kids and teens on their facebooks and youtubes. Maybe in the real old days it would have been something else but I'm not old enough to remember the real "old" internet of web 1.0, let alone dial up BBS. Otaku culture is pretty much the same too, sure anime has become more and more mainstream, but it's still not much different than toonami and sci-fi airing anime in the late night. As with the old web, I can't really say much about the actual old ways of culture, back when it was pirated VHS with hardsubs traded like samizdat. Sorry I can't be of much use I guess...

Though if you are interested in even older internet, you may want to check out textfiles.com which has old BBS text files, or check out usenet newsgroups archives like alt.anime. Those are interesting windows into the past. Same with wayback machine, often you can find strange old sites archived by browsing through that.

Still, fifteen, and you're already like this? May God protect you.
>> No. 24571 [Edit]
im 23. my dad worked at intel so i had a computer when many people back then did not. i also first started playing on the computer when I was only 2 or 3, although i can't remember anything from that time. my earliest memory of using the computer was reading about the new disney cartoon called "lloyd in space" in 2000, so i would have been 4. i spent almost my entire childhood playing Roller Coaster Tycoon. the game is extremely difficult for a small child, and i was too dumb to actually learn games and too retarded to search for tips, so i spent all of my time playing on this free play park in the desert where everything is free and you don't have to micromanage finances at all, which is 70% of the game.
later in my childhood, zoo tycoon came out and i also played that for 1000 hours, doing the same thing again where i played exclusively the free park. i remember being very angry at that game because you could make a reindeer exhibit but the reindeer would always be unhappy unless they had a christmas tree in their enclosure, but many maps didn't have the christmas tree as an option, meaning the reindeer would be miserable no matter what you do.

the only thing i spent perhaps more time on than zoo tycoon or roller coaster tycoon was this website called candystand.com, which has since been turned into a piece of shit gay faggot site and a shell of its former self.
candystand.com used to be a weird experimental marketing site where food companies would pay to have their branding placed all over a browser game. the main attraction of the site was a lifesavers candy mini golf game which some people talk about even to this day. but it had hundreds-thousands of other games too. one i think most often about is a kraft macaroni and cheese platformer game. i would estimate i spent 4000 hours on that website. the games were genuinely good. much higher quality than the amateur stuff on newgrounds.com, which i also used often. i was of course a big fan of the Madness series, and still am.

i had no friends my entire childhood. i would just get home and play these all day every day. i don't think i have autism, i just never found people interesting. if someone were to invite me to their house, i would refuse. it's just guaranteed to be a shitty time compared to playing on the computer. i still feel that way.
i went to a few children's birthday parties though. the free food made it worth it. one kid in my 2nd grade class named Dakota had his birthday party at an airforce base somehow. im not sure how he managed that, that seems like it should be classified. funnily enough, the main thing i remember about that place is they had a plsytstation 2 with a gundam game, though. ive always just found games more interesting than people and i isolated myself and played that gundam game even though i was in a social environment.
>> No. 24572 [Edit]
>>24570
I know 2007 internet isn't very old, but even then I still have some fun looking at things from that era. Yes I would agree with there's still little communities such as this one and others that are like that. Textfiles and the old usenet newsarchive groups are pretty cool.
>>24571 I liked your story! "The reindeer would be miserable no matter what you do." I played flash games to hell and back in my earlier years, and there were some weird promotions in some of them. I even played one made by a band if you were one of the first ones to beat it you would get a ticket to one of there concerts. The madness series! I haven't heard that one in a while. The things I remember from that are, Jesus, Some zombie guy, and it being really violent. As for candystand, I checked it out on the waybackmachine and it seems pretty cute. "Kids: Unless this is your own personal computer, be sure to ask a parent if it's OK before you download any browsers or plug-ins."
>> No. 24573 [Edit]
>I don't have any dreams for the future, or willpower to be able to do anything.

I sure hope you have a plan, though. Avoid becoming a NEET even because it don't last forever and many people dislike them. So that in itself will make you feel even more alone.
>> No. 24574 [Edit]
>>24573
If he's gonna end up a NEET he needs to know how to do it right.
>> No. 24575 [Edit]
>>24574
Be born in a Scandinavian country?
>> No. 24576 [Edit]
>>24575
I assume he isn't, and there's more stable ways.
>> No. 24577 [Edit]
>>24576
Could you elaborate?

At least to me, the main issue with being a NEET is the sheer boredom that takes a toll on you after a few days. You can of course find something to occupy your time like programming small projects or such, but even that begins to feel empty after a while and you slowly slip into a state where you start spending hours fabricating and worrying over absurdly trivial problems like the angle of your computer screen. If you are more artistically or creatively inclined I suppose you could pass time by drawing or writing though.
>> No. 24578 [Edit]
Getting a job will help you get over your social problems. Being a NEET is not a good thing, and it will not make you a happy person.

If you want to know what the older internet was like, see here >>24566. People were guarded and cautious, and there existed a clear divide between your online life and your real life. I’ve come to accept that younger people don’t see it that way, which I still cannot understand honestly. To them, it’s all the same. I think that’s a shame, because for a brief moment in time, we got to experience what people were actually really thinking without the mask of social stigma or political correctness, and it was incredibly creative and hilarious. But that era is over now that people have blended the two lives together, so we go back to the mundane until we die or find something better.

I will say though, that because of the Internet that existed, I know a lot of genuine and funny people exist in the world that I wouldn’t have otherwise ever known about. So in a way, even though we wonder where everyone went, life is more tolerable knowing that good people actually do exist, and that they’ve just faded into the crowd.
>> No. 24579 [Edit]
>Getting a job will help you get over your social problems. Being a NEET is not a good thing, and it will not make you a happy person.
Heard that a thousand times. Did that a thousand times. It never worked.

>>24577
Sounds like OCD. And delusions about menial jobs being worthwhile or productive in any way.

Post edited on 28th Aug 2019, 3:17am
>> No. 24580 [Edit]
>>24577
Well for one thing, being a NEET had never been a problem for me seeing as how I always preferred spending my time like this from birth. For me NEETdom is just how I always lived minus the schoolwork. I was homeschooled, and personally I just hate being around other people. I don't mind it because you can always just meditate if you start getting lost in boredom and re-center yourself on the things you actually want to do. As for the monetary aspect, which is the hardest part, it's far easier to live with your parents while saving money for a few years, then retire to a dirt cheap property in fucking nowhere and live minimally. That's what I did, at least. I'll never be a rich or well-off NEET, but I will always be relaxed.
>> No. 24581 [Edit]
>>24579
Not everything is a mental illness.
>> No. 24583 [Edit]
>>24553
I was a fully retarded shut in with major chronic pain issues, so I couldn't really play games or watch tv much since it'd strain my eyes efter 10 seconds.

I think what made me socially passable is martial arts, lots of people only there to improve and all you have to do is talk about the martial art. Also I saw many people 30+ in complete misery and wanted to try improve myself and avoid 100% suicide death, even if the effort would onyl have a 1% success chance.

I don't really care if I live or die still, my lifes not eternal so I hope to at least die before it gets too bad. The hardest part is now I can be somewhat passable it makes me feel bad I wasted 10 years of my life like this. I have people to speak to irl for the first time in years, but still I don't fele I fit in anywhere but here. Identity issues lol
>> No. 24586 [Edit]
>>24573
Well, I haven't passed school I think since 3 grades ago [1]. So I know not what the future lies for me. I never even really thought i'd get this far as it is.
[1] I actually tried for 1 year and still failed completely everything except art and gym.
If when i'm an adult and my life becomes too shit to bear, i'll probably just hang myself, or jump off somewhere high (fun, or maybe grim fact: if you jump from I think it is above 200 meters your probability of survival is <1%)
>>24578
I couldn't talk to a stranger if my life depended on it. (Perhaps a bit of a hyperbole, if some lovecraftian fiend came down from the sky and said "Are you alright with me subjecting you to 2000 years of torture" I probably would be able to say no, but still I really don't think something like that would work.)
As for the clear divide between the real life and cyberspace, that is something that I haven't much thought about. With a large portion of the web being social media now, with people who give much more care to having there reputation not falling too low, maybe a lot of controversial thoughts would not come out into the public.
>>24583
I liked your post.
I got a yellow belt in martial arts before I stopped going to practice. I think the closest thing I did to what you did is typing, I spent all my time on the net pretty much so my typing speed is pretty good. I tried to become one of the worlds best, and every day i'd spam practice, and sometimes races on typeracer. I would have ungodly amounts of consistency, where I could 150-160bpm a single sentence, 2 sentences, or even a paragraph. The one thing that I never got good at was, well actual speed. When I typed at 150-160bpm my fingers were moving at almost there limit. If I pushed any harder at all to try to go to 170 or 180 my consistency would completely break and i'd mistype almost everything. So seeing people who could probably only do 110 on paragraphs, but be almost to get some stupid 200bpm score by going all out on a short sentence killed my motivation a bit. The thing that killed my motivation even more was not seeing any improvement whatsoever after a month, and the actual best who would do what I do, except at 170-180, and just have completely stupid burst speeds of up to 300wpm. I'm still kind of proud of how fast I can type, hell I even beat Sean Wrona who some consider the worlds best. (Granted, he was sleep deprived, and it was after 10+ tries in a private match.) But I gave up on trying to improve.
>> No. 24587 [Edit]
Can I ask what made you interested in the older internet in general? I’d hope you’d have your own good times but I can see the appeal. If you’ve gotten here you probably have done enough digging but for old websites this is a pretty good search engine: https://wiby.me/
Neocities is also a good community that has a few old school style websites, although the old geocities archives would be a good thing to look through.
Another tip I’d give you would be to try other protocols of the internet like gopher or IRC. Good luck!
I also find it odd you’re not gonna post anywhere else here when this is a pretty okay taste of the old net, although it’s probably filled with more jaded complaining than you’d like.
Also, otaku culture in the west is a bit different, i’d go crawling around jap internet to get a taste for that.
>> No. 24588 [Edit]
Also! Textboards are as old internet as you can get while still using the WWW besides maybe forums.
http://xiongnu.org/overtext/
>> No. 24627 [Edit]
(>>24583 here) I played typeracer a little recently too, averaging 120 WPM and peaking at 156wpm (actually 160pm on practice). You beat me easily in tha tregard at leaest.

You're still pretty young, you could try to pick up an instrument or something. If you hit 20 with 4-5 years of experience you'll be semi-decent. Most people don't really seem to mediocre in life (which is fine, as maybe they can relate to others).

It's wierd, you're younger than my little sister but you feel more familiar than people my own age. People here just get more and more depressed as they age and can't seem to cope with life, but it did motivate me to pick up some hobbies and I had some online friends I hung out with everyday on streaming sites. I don't think these websites can bring happiness, but I don't know what can.

Post edited on 9th Sep 2019, 2:45am
>> No. 24629 [Edit]
>>24587
Wiby is pretty neat! I used it in the past and it lets you find some cool things. Neocities is also cool, I tried to make a website but it was nothing more then the most basic of basic of html. As for other protocols, I never actually checked any out, although I heard of gopher before.
>>24627
Thanks for your post! I couldn't think of much else to say.. sorry.
>> No. 24694 [Edit]
Old 4chan was a more tightly knit community. There were some animes you can safely assume everyone else watched because they did. Off the top of my head some 2007ish 4chan-crowd animes: Elfen Lied, Minami-ke, 5cm per second, Spice and Wolf, Kanon 2006, Shana... there was also the live drama 1 Litre of Tears that made everyone cry.

>I am 15 years old, etc
You sound just like me at that age. I often think about traveling back in time and being a friend and life guide to my younger self. I want to tell you this thing I know you won't do anyway. Get a part-time job. Personally, I hated my mother and if I did anything productive, I feel like I'm justifying her shit parenting. And that thinking led me to bad places. If you have something like that, fuck it, get a job anyway. You can even do deliveries like that one guy in Welcome to the NHK. There's a lot that comes from working.
-You learn to deal with people professionally which let's you overcome shyness or awkward spots.
-You get into habit of waking up on time.
-You get money for your anime hobbies. It feels bad to use your parents money for such things.
-Female co-workers and an excuse to be around them.
-A sense of belonging in society.
-Your creating memories with real people.
-etc, you get the idea.

And have you ever thought "If I was 8yo I could grab boobs and get away with it"? As 28yo I think about all the stuff I could get away with if I was 15.
>> No. 24695 [Edit]
>>24694
What magical land do you live in? Work never ever gave me anything even close to that.
>> No. 24696 [Edit]
>>24694
Part time jobs are glorified by fat cat execs to sell a lie. While there's plenty of success stories of poor people working a part time job while in school and then becoming billonaires, it's not because of the job despite what they'll tell you. Successful employed people(doctors, engineers, etc) get part time jobs as a resume ornament or to get money for normalfag shit. "Losers" don't benefit. They don't make friends, they don't become better people. If your parents have enough money to pay for higher education, take advantage of it, skip the lowly inbetween shit.
>> No. 24697 [Edit]
>>24696
Good post. Another big thing is that part time work ain't part time work. Maybe you work 16 hours/week but you'll be on call or won't know when the fuck those hours are until the day before. Just get studentbux or leech off your parents if you're a student. It's not worth it, and to what? Buy a new graphics card every year?
>> No. 24765 [Edit]
>>24695
Yup. I save up a decent amount from my job but I would like to go back to years ago in school when I had time to just throw away on video games or other hobbies -- even school/uni clubs vs having to work the grind... Of course all in all there's still longevity in it depending on how long your family is willing to support you as well.
>> No. 25259 [Edit]
>>24568
http://www.websdr.org/
If you have a passing interest in ham radio try this site anon.

Post edited on 5th Feb 2020, 6:21pm
>> No. 25488 [Edit]
I hate stupid attention fag no one cares about your life history
>> No. 25489 [Edit]
>>25488
I care. I also want to post my story and have someone care about it.
>> No. 25490 [Edit]
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>>25489
>I also want to post my story
Please go ahead. I wanna slurp up some genuine, unique tasting sadness.
>> No. 26695 [Edit]
Good thread, OP. I like your attitude for the most part, if you're still reading this.
When I started using image boards around 2010, the first thing that I did was browse ED for days on end, along with dozens of dead chans and forums, to get a sense of things before I made a fool of myself on the internet.
>> No. 26696 [Edit]
I agree that the thread is good.
>> No. 26722 [Edit]
>>24694
5cm/s was the shit.
>> No. 26723 [Edit]
>>26722
Reading the synopsis, it seems like typical, designed to make you sad fare.
>> No. 26724 [Edit]
>>26723
I, too, enjoy judging popular works by their synopses---all the more so when conversing with someone who claims to enjoy the piece in question.
>> No. 26725 [Edit]
>>26724
I'm not judging it, I'm giving my first impressions. If my first impressions are wrong, I'd be glad to hear it.

Post edited on 4th Sep 2021, 11:13am
>> No. 26726 [Edit]
>>26725
It's a shinkai work, so make of that what you will, and if you squint his works sort of all have a similar theme.
>> No. 26727 [Edit]
>>26723
I mean, you're not wrong. We are human, though, so something in it appeals to us.
>> No. 26734 [Edit]
i'm 26 really only remember up too 2005 but i know i was online before that just not as much. unreal 2004 and quake 3 and counter strike 1.6; games that died but really didn't, windows xp had a gui compatible software and anime was still locked by vhs and dvds. i like to think that net neutrality died when social media had a monopoly. you had forums and irc chats now it's all just 4 websites. i'd love to show you some of my favorite videos but they're ether deleted or lost out there. most websites won't even archive images right, which makes it all the more curious to the youth.
you remind me of me when i was younger, obsessed with late 90s computer culture that my dad always told me about, watching documentaries and movies about it all. back then you really had control over you computer and had to know what it did and how to work it. now windows and mac are so hostel it's hard to do anything to them anymore.
but still i don't think it's all bad, linux has alot more compatibility then it use to, now and days there's alot of good anime and games that are easier then ever to get your hands on, piracy has gotten more restrictive but vpns are pretty cheap. i'm glad that more young people are into the past and there's probably some stories we can all tell but looks like you found them all. alot of those websites have all you can find you. you can also try old 4chan archives or macrochan.
but also
>Anime wise, I don't actually have that many under my belt, because i'm scared of watching a bad one
that's bullshit you should watch all the anime you can, good or bad, it will be an experience ether way. try twist.moe with an adblocker or lurk more on how to torrent. watch all that you can, there's going to be a time when you can't.
but here are some videos that keep me by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq64zpcdInM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3YsEn_jiY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4WzQ7KHak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T092bTzXh8Y
and some anime i really like
Serial Experiments Lain
Sora no Woto
Azumanga Daioh
Lucky Star
Chobits
...somewhere somehow
>> No. 26744 [Edit]
>the thread is two years old

OP, what is up?
>> No. 27666 [Edit]
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>>26744
Hello, now it is almost three.. I'm 18 now, almost 19 soon.. I very much wish I found friends in school now, I don't feel I gained very much knowledge over this time still. I seen this post before, but I think I was too nervous to respond.. Umm, well i got a burst of life in around 2021, still not really doing anything but with a lot of hope. But as of this summer i've had a huge void in my soul and i find it hard to even have the willpower to play games or watch anime anymore. I also feel lonelier then ever, I did kind of make some online friends but it feels like they never speak to me anymore. I'm still a mute, I talk to my mom through text.. I don't know why I can't bring myself to speak to her, I guess I just adjusted to not really speaking in real life. I know it is quite rude, and I love her very dearly so I hope I can help myself with that one day. My mom bought me a phone but I seldom use it, I don't have anybody to talk to there after all. Um I dropped out of high school, It was causing me too much anguish, apparently you can pass something called a g.e.d or something and it's still a little good, so I may try to do that. I would need to study maths a bit if I wanted a chance of that I think, I lost myself at everything past elementary school math, the letters and formula stuff was too much for me. So much of my happiness I think comes from other people, and without really anyone besides my mom it just feels so very hard.. and feeling all by myself leaves me without like any willpower... I know it's good to be able to help yourself but I really wish I found somebody to support me somewhat, I feel very incapable to make decisions. I don't think I am completely doomed, I still have hope deep down, I don't know why. I just really really wish the world is good.


--- sorry for a big blogpost , i don't know i thought it could be cute to have an update after so much time
>> No. 27667 [Edit]
OP, assuming that you're clinically diagnosed as having ASD, you could try to qualify for neetbux?

That aside (and perhaps slightly tangentially), it's an unfortunate fact that merely being someone who doesn't use technology is enough to cut you off from the rest of the youth. Even middle schoolers these days communicate via SNS, and if you don't partake you're part of the outgroup. Childhood before these became mainstream was simpler, because there wasn't really any expectation of persistence – your "friends" were the people you interacted with frequently at school and hung out with during recess, and that was it (maybe one or two sleepovers or something).
>> No. 27668 [Edit]
>>27667
I don't know if i'm clinically diagnosed with that, I am not sure what I have. I always thoughts a lot of the mental illness stuff can just be like different states of mind. I get a little bit of neetbux right now, because I went to special education and I was pretty much mute, my mom is kind of poor as of now she lost her job because we moved and she needs to get qualifications or something for the state so she works a kind of bad job right now so most of it I think would go towards rent stuff.

As for friends, I was with peoples I met during all of elementary and middle school, in High School I never met anybody and I went mute and I just slept all day though school. I have always had a computer atleast, I remember in middle school I had some of my friends on skype, but we haven't talked in many many many years now.
>> No. 27669 [Edit]
>>27666
I was just reading this the other day and was wondering what you were up to now, it's always nice when people come back and give an update. I hope you can eventually overcome your anxiety with speaking soon, that sounds awful
>> No. 27670 [Edit]
>>27668
Sounds like something happened between middle and high school, or during high school, that triggered a change in your ability to communicate.
>> No. 27730 [Edit]
>>27666
Same here. I was good at maths as a child, but I discovered that I could skip classes in highschool school with no repercussions and so I never attended maths again.

I also share your fascination with the older internet, although I'm quite a bit older than you and I was actually around to see most of the web's development from about 2009 onward quite clearly.
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>>24553
I feel the same except I don't speak to any of my family at all besides asking to be fed and I don't care about old internet stuff. It was cool to see someone my age who feels the same about the world that I do. I've never felt that at all because I've been alone for my entire life. At school, I usually go to sleep or spend my time drawing gore while everyone pretends as if I don't exist. at home, I sit in my dirty room drinking Diet coke, reading manga and doing shit in flash till I go to sleep at 3 am. I wish I had friends and I wish my parents cared about me enough that they didn't send me away so they could spend more time with other kids. Sorry for this faggy blog post lol.
>> No. 27799 [Edit]
>>27773
>drawing gore
ooh, edgy are you?
OP was respectful when he said "I won't post in any threads except this one" and you should do the same. It's all well and good to say "I've literally been alone my entire life", but at the end of the day, you are 15 and have your entire life ahead of you.
>> No. 27801 [Edit]
>>27799
>have your entire life head of you

That might be true, but I don't think it's fair to assume anyone who found their way here ever really had a life ahead of them. Nor do I think that 15 is too early to know that. I didn't completely lose faith until I dropped out of college at 20, but I knew everything was fucked by the time I was ten.

Do you really think if you could go back things would be any different? If you could roll back the clock to your first day of high school, even knowing what you know now, could you have had a normal life?
>> No. 27802 [Edit]
>>27801
If one is on this site (and enjoys it) at 15, he's probably going to be de facto alienated from his peer group. That's not to say you're slated to become a NEET, (indeed one could quite easily get a job in one of the ee or cs adjacent fields), but even amongst 25+ very few seem to be left who enjoy slow long-form mailing-list-esque communication (and conversely dislike instant messaging). Amongst the < 18 crowd, I strongly believe it's only a handful.
>> No. 28083 [Edit]
>>24629
>>27666
I'm this guy who responded to you years ago, I was extremely up and down in 2019 to be honest so I had some high highs and low lows (it sounds very bipolary maybe, but it was really because I was constantly outside my comfort zone).

I kind of flunked a bit in COVID but graduated and have a masters degree now, and I'm moving to Japan soon to study some more. It feels pretty random in all honesty, especially when I was barely able to speak to people and was in pain all the time on top. I also watched Clannad last year and liked that girl.

I sometimes wonder if I'd have done so much if I was never afflicted with chronic pain, it basically gave me no choice but to improve. I would also be happy to talk to you about things if you'd like, as I find it interesting and nostalgic to think about these days.

P.s. I have been NEET for like half a year, but plan on studiyng at postgraduate.
>> No. 28084 [Edit]
More specifically I'm the one who used typeracer.

Overall I think I'm not really depressed, just bothered over some legitimate issues. It's tiring to keep trying, and I wish I could've grown up nicely as I for some reason can't get over the fact I missed my adolesence. A miraculous reversal nonetheless.
>> No. 29553 [Edit]
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I might be the youngest person on this site, I recently turned 18, and I finished high school this year.
People would usually say that I'm extremely young and that I have my whole life ahead et al, but I gave up already.
There's nothing worth living for. I'm afraid of people and intimacy (aside from finding most people to suck/be incompatible with me). Growing up I was seen as "gifted" by adults and they might've had expectations that I would be a great programmer or scientist or whatever, but today to me that all looks shallow and pointless.
I just want to indefinitely be a NEET and rot in my room, but my parents wouldn't allow that and they're already mentioning that I should get a job (and no, neetbux are not an option, etc). All the jobs that aren't bottom of the barrel require a degree so I'm planning to go to college next year, but I expect it to be backwards just like school (but better than working shitty jobs).
I do at least have "hobbies" in the form of anime/games/VNs and browsing imageboards, and I also want to do some creative stuff like drawing or making games. Those things are entertaining enough for making a NEET lifestyle not completely boring, I guess.
I don't know what else to say for now.
>> No. 29554 [Edit]
>>29553
Nice to see some younger blood here. I think the sentiment you're expressing seems to be increasingly common, the original Chinese trend of "lying flat" movement has pretty much become the standard among young generations in the West.
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>>29553
If you want a low-effort lifestyle, putting effort now will pay off later on. I'm 23 and work a remote job where I do pretty much nothing, but ostensibly maintain COBOL code on a mainframe. Can't get those kinds of remote jobs without a degree.
>> No. 29556 [Edit]
>>29553
I'm barely older than you (soon 19), but I feel in a way similar. Since I dropped out of high school a handful of years ago, I've been been Hikki-NEET and I wonder how long I can continue this way of living. I really don't know, could be decades or just months. I wish it would last forever. Real life is so tiresome and I wish I could escape it indefinitely, but I have this gut feeling that the years of Hikkidom are going to bite me in the ass in one way or the other.

>I just want to indefinitely be a NEET and rot in my room,
>but I gave up already.
I don't think there is a shame in giving up. I don't want to discourage you or anyone, but I feel like in a lot of cases giving up is appropriate and sometimes the more rational choice, over just giving all you can all the time, because I sometimes the person giving all they can, isn't the one profiting, if there is anyone profiting at all. Maybe I'm just miserable and projecting my view of myself at others, but maybe there is some truth to this. I don't know.
>> No. 29557 [Edit]
>>29556
I want to emphasize, that I don't want to discourage you putting effort into college or anything (even though it really sounded like that) but I don't know your situation and maybe it's the rational choice or maybe it's not, I don't know. I just think that one shouldn't feel shame as a result of having given up for rational reasons.
>> No. 29561 [Edit]
>>29553
>>29556
21 Hikki-NEET here. After a few years, you'd find that it's a fate worse than death. With each passing day, the abyss claims another piece of your soul; and nothing seems to be behind those eyes anymore, completely hollowed out by the unending boredom and utter meaningless of existence.

I do not recommend pursuing this life path. I get that reality is absolutely a slaughterhouse propped up by slavery, but total resignation from life isn't the way to go; there are solutions and ways around it. So do everything in your power not to stay as one for any longer than necessary.
>> No. 29562 [Edit]
OP is 21 now, how does that feel? To see time slip away. It's so good to live without attachments. Feels lonely when you're sick though. Thankfully we only live about 50-70 years so it's a quick game.
>> No. 29563 [Edit]
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>>29553
Yes, you are quite young. But if you must go down the path of neetdom, I would suggest spending your time wise. Learn skills you want to learn. You mention drawing and games, both of these could even get you out of neetdom eventually, given you get lucky enough. Also, as was said in another thread here recently, live for yourself, you do not owe anyone becoming a great programmer, making a lot of money, or whatever expectations people are putting onto you.

>>29561
Life is meaningless, but you can give it meaning yourself. Find things you want to do, goals etc, and work towards them. Hitting the 5 year hikineet mark myself, and it's mostly what kept me going.

Apologies if any of this came across as rude or whatever, I'm not the best at putting my thoughts into words.
>> No. 29564 [Edit]
>you can give it meaning yourself
No you can't. I thought you can back in the day, but apparently it's hardwired that you can't. It would be severe mental illness if you could. Best you can do is to accept circumstances as they are, and once you're proficient with it, start pursuing duties, one by one, trying not to push yourself beyond your abilities. There is no meaning. And there's no need to find one.
>> No. 29565 [Edit]
And now you know why religion exists.
>> No. 29581 [Edit]
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>>29554
I don't know about "increasingly common", but wouldn't it be an exaggeration (to say the least) that it's the "standard" among "young generations"? I don't remember any of my classmates showing those tendencies, in fact some of them were quite enthusiastic about their "future" or whatever, and most of them are now in superior education or doing other things. I recently happened to have interactions with two of them, and both asked if there were news on my side.
>>29556
>>29557
For better or for worse NEETing for too long is not viable in my situation. I don't know if my parents would go as far as kicking me out, but it would definitely generate a lot of scandals and problems. The best I can do is drag myself through college for that piece of paper and look for an easy remote job.
Speaking of dropping out of high school, though... at one point I was in a bad mental state and really didn't want to keep going to school, and I contemplated on dropping out, but when I presented that idea to my mother, she understandably got very hysterical, and I reconsidered it. It was a really bad idea full of holes in the first place (especially since here you can't legally drop out of school until you're 18, so my plan was to just stop going, and just show up one class a week or so as an attempt to avoid getting in trouble with the CPS), but my situation back then drove me to consider it... but I digress. What I wanted to say is that dropping out of high school looks dangerous to me, as it entraps you and makes it harder to quit NEETdom if you ever need to. I'm glad that my stupid plan did not work out (if it had a chance to).
I wish you the best of luck, Anon.
>>29561
But is there a major alternative? I am unsuitable for human relationships. And the rat race looks crushing and mostly pointless. Also if going by the vision that the ultimate purpose in life is to procreate, that pretty much requires the previous two things. I don't know what's left then. Only hobbies or personal pursuits, but generally they're not completely fulfilling.
>> No. 29582 [Edit]
>>29581
>but wouldn't it be an exaggeration (to say the least) that it's the "standard" among "young generations"
Hm "standard among a generation" (averages) doesn't necessarily contradict with some individuals still being passionate. But yes I am surprised that your peers still expressed an interest. How recent were interactions with them? Generally as the economy continues to deteriorate I expect people those people to be rarer.
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>>29582
>passionate
That kind of sounds like an euphemistic way of describing it, most of the time it's just "NPC"/societal programming...
>How recent were interactions with them?
Probably around a month ago? School ended a couple months ago so there wouldn't be room for a large variation anyway...

Anyway, onto the main topic... To be honest that sounds actually delusional -- like if someone claimed that the moon is falling a la Majora's Mask or whatever -- unless I am the deluded one. Being on the rise is one thing, but "the standard"/"the average"/"most" young people adopting that mindset? Really?? There's no way, I just can't picture it. There would be a tangible societal collapse not to speak of constantly hearing about it. Even accounting for being quite out-of-touch, I'd definitely be aware of it.
>> No. 29588 [Edit]
>>29587
It probably depends on where you live.
>> No. 29589 [Edit]
>>29587
>but "the standard"/"the average"/"most" young people adopting that mindset? Really?? There's no way, I just can't picture it. There would be a tangible societal collapse

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-11/fewer-young-men-are-in-the-labor-force-more-are-living-at-home
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2022-in-review/the-year-in-quiet-quitting
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/aug/06/quiet-quitting-why-doing-the-bare-minimum-at-work-has-gone-global
https://www.afterbabel.com/p/where-are-your-kids-schlott
https://fortune.com/2023/06/27/gen-zers-turning-to-radical-rest-delusional-thinking-self-indulgence-late-stage-capitalism-molly-barth/

You can decide for yourself how much is media-spin versus a real problem. As other anon said, it is likely location dependent. What I have observed myself is that for people who would be considered "entry-level" in the work-force, the volatility in employment situation and bad economy in general has shattered any notion that "working hard" will be proportionately rewarded. So many have realized that the optimal outcome is to coast.
>> No. 29590 [Edit]
>>29589
Because there is no point. I will only give myself to something worthwhile, and reiterating their money gains isn't worthwhile. I in fact wish big tech and business collapsed entirely and stopped bothering me. Careers, money, position, shove that up your ass. You company is a band of bitches
>> No. 29591 [Edit]
>>29589
Still, the articles look like they're talking about it just being on the rise rather than becoming "standard", but whatever. Who knows, really. Either way, regardless of their quantity I wouldn't find these people relatable and wouldn't like being compared to them since most of them would still be pretty much normalfags who care about social bullshit and all, but with the gimmick of not caring as much about work/career/money tacked on.
>> No. 29596 [Edit]
>>29591
That mindset is not the standard. It's only standard for the internet addicted and typically people of particular beliefs and leanings. A bunch of boomers writing articles on tiktok trends doesn't slot into how reality works. Pew Research polls show that the priorities of the average person (at least in the USA) has not changed at all in almost 40 years now, even among the gen z adults who responded. Culture has changed but people's wants have not, outside of the previously mentioned chronically online. People have been "quiet quitting" (doing their job to the best of their ability and nothing more) for hundreds if not thousands of years now. Don't listen to this bullshit it's all clickbait and mole hills being turned into mountains.
>> No. 29600 [Edit]
>>29596
Yeah, sounds about right.
>> No. 29746 [Edit]
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>>29596
I just found a relevant image on my hard drive (I hope that it's not /tat/ material).
>> No. 29747 [Edit]
>>29746
Golden. Thank you for posting this.
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