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24553 No. 24553 [Edit]
Hello. I am 15 years old, and I saw no specific rules about not being able to post if you are under 18?
Hopefully I am allowed to post.
Now saying that I may frustate some of you (and for good reason), however I will say that I will not post anything outside of this thread, and I will try to be respectful, and here are some things about myself.
-I don't have any friends, in real life or online.
-Almost all of my time outside of school, and not sleeping I have been on this world wide web, (since I was 3, my mom put me on a preschool website and just let me wander)
-Anime wise, I don't actually have that many under my belt, because i'm scared of watching a bad one, but I very much love anime and Japanese content. Some animes that I have liked are, A Place Farther than the Universe, Welcome to the NHK, Non Non Biyori, and The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya
-I'm unable to speak to anyone besides my family in real life because of how shy I am
-I'm autistic
-I don't have any dreams for the future, or willpower to be able to do anything.
-I don't have/use any social media, or a phone
-I am very much interested in the old internet, being of my age I have only experienced a little of only well, 2007ish internet, and I can not remember much of my experiences around that time besides a handful. I browse archives of old websites, and look at old dead forums a lot, encyclopedia dramatica articles about internet events that have long been forgotten and I very much like these small website communities, where if you don't know where to look you will never find them. I don't very much like most of this 2019 internet, as I feel a lot of it's fun and soul have been taken away.
I like the people on here, and I would like to learn about things from you. I know generally older people are smarter than younger people. I personally would love to tell my 8 year old self a lot of things. If anyone can tell me about there experiences, or just general knowledge, about otaku culture, the old internet, or anything really I will be very grateful.
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>> No. 24696 [Edit]
>>24694
Part time jobs are glorified by fat cat execs to sell a lie. While there's plenty of success stories of poor people working a part time job while in school and then becoming billonaires, it's not because of the job despite what they'll tell you. Successful employed people(doctors, engineers, etc) get part time jobs as a resume ornament or to get money for normalfag shit. "Losers" don't benefit. They don't make friends, they don't become better people. If your parents have enough money to pay for higher education, take advantage of it, skip the lowly inbetween shit.
>> No. 24697 [Edit]
>>24696
Good post. Another big thing is that part time work ain't part time work. Maybe you work 16 hours/week but you'll be on call or won't know when the fuck those hours are until the day before. Just get studentbux or leech off your parents if you're a student. It's not worth it, and to what? Buy a new graphics card every year?
>> No. 24765 [Edit]
>>24695
Yup. I save up a decent amount from my job but I would like to go back to years ago in school when I had time to just throw away on video games or other hobbies -- even school/uni clubs vs having to work the grind... Of course all in all there's still longevity in it depending on how long your family is willing to support you as well.
>> No. 25259 [Edit]
>>24568
http://www.websdr.org/
If you have a passing interest in ham radio try this site anon.

Post edited on 5th Feb 2020, 6:21pm
>> No. 25488 [Edit]
I hate stupid attention fag no one cares about your life history
>> No. 25489 [Edit]
>>25488
I care. I also want to post my story and have someone care about it.
>> No. 25490 [Edit]
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>>25489
>I also want to post my story
Please go ahead. I wanna slurp up some genuine, unique tasting sadness.
>> No. 26695 [Edit]
Good thread, OP. I like your attitude for the most part, if you're still reading this.
When I started using image boards around 2010, the first thing that I did was browse ED for days on end, along with dozens of dead chans and forums, to get a sense of things before I made a fool of myself on the internet.
>> No. 26696 [Edit]
I agree that the thread is good.
>> No. 26722 [Edit]
>>24694
5cm/s was the shit.
>> No. 26723 [Edit]
>>26722
Reading the synopsis, it seems like typical, designed to make you sad fare.
>> No. 26724 [Edit]
>>26723
I, too, enjoy judging popular works by their synopses---all the more so when conversing with someone who claims to enjoy the piece in question.
>> No. 26725 [Edit]
>>26724
I'm not judging it, I'm giving my first impressions. If my first impressions are wrong, I'd be glad to hear it.

Post edited on 4th Sep 2021, 11:13am
>> No. 26726 [Edit]
>>26725
It's a shinkai work, so make of that what you will, and if you squint his works sort of all have a similar theme.
>> No. 26727 [Edit]
>>26723
I mean, you're not wrong. We are human, though, so something in it appeals to us.
>> No. 26734 [Edit]
i'm 26 really only remember up too 2005 but i know i was online before that just not as much. unreal 2004 and quake 3 and counter strike 1.6; games that died but really didn't, windows xp had a gui compatible software and anime was still locked by vhs and dvds. i like to think that net neutrality died when social media had a monopoly. you had forums and irc chats now it's all just 4 websites. i'd love to show you some of my favorite videos but they're ether deleted or lost out there. most websites won't even archive images right, which makes it all the more curious to the youth.
you remind me of me when i was younger, obsessed with late 90s computer culture that my dad always told me about, watching documentaries and movies about it all. back then you really had control over you computer and had to know what it did and how to work it. now windows and mac are so hostel it's hard to do anything to them anymore.
but still i don't think it's all bad, linux has alot more compatibility then it use to, now and days there's alot of good anime and games that are easier then ever to get your hands on, piracy has gotten more restrictive but vpns are pretty cheap. i'm glad that more young people are into the past and there's probably some stories we can all tell but looks like you found them all. alot of those websites have all you can find you. you can also try old 4chan archives or macrochan.
but also
>Anime wise, I don't actually have that many under my belt, because i'm scared of watching a bad one
that's bullshit you should watch all the anime you can, good or bad, it will be an experience ether way. try twist.moe with an adblocker or lurk more on how to torrent. watch all that you can, there's going to be a time when you can't.
but here are some videos that keep me by
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kq64zpcdInM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DR3YsEn_jiY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ar4WzQ7KHak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T092bTzXh8Y
and some anime i really like
Serial Experiments Lain
Sora no Woto
Azumanga Daioh
Lucky Star
Chobits
...somewhere somehow
>> No. 26744 [Edit]
>the thread is two years old

OP, what is up?
>> No. 27666 [Edit]
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>>26744
Hello, now it is almost three.. I'm 18 now, almost 19 soon.. I very much wish I found friends in school now, I don't feel I gained very much knowledge over this time still. I seen this post before, but I think I was too nervous to respond.. Umm, well i got a burst of life in around 2021, still not really doing anything but with a lot of hope. But as of this summer i've had a huge void in my soul and i find it hard to even have the willpower to play games or watch anime anymore. I also feel lonelier then ever, I did kind of make some online friends but it feels like they never speak to me anymore. I'm still a mute, I talk to my mom through text.. I don't know why I can't bring myself to speak to her, I guess I just adjusted to not really speaking in real life. I know it is quite rude, and I love her very dearly so I hope I can help myself with that one day. My mom bought me a phone but I seldom use it, I don't have anybody to talk to there after all. Um I dropped out of high school, It was causing me too much anguish, apparently you can pass something called a g.e.d or something and it's still a little good, so I may try to do that. I would need to study maths a bit if I wanted a chance of that I think, I lost myself at everything past elementary school math, the letters and formula stuff was too much for me. So much of my happiness I think comes from other people, and without really anyone besides my mom it just feels so very hard.. and feeling all by myself leaves me without like any willpower... I know it's good to be able to help yourself but I really wish I found somebody to support me somewhat, I feel very incapable to make decisions. I don't think I am completely doomed, I still have hope deep down, I don't know why. I just really really wish the world is good.


--- sorry for a big blogpost , i don't know i thought it could be cute to have an update after so much time
>> No. 27667 [Edit]
OP, assuming that you're clinically diagnosed as having ASD, you could try to qualify for neetbux?

That aside (and perhaps slightly tangentially), it's an unfortunate fact that merely being someone who doesn't use technology is enough to cut you off from the rest of the youth. Even middle schoolers these days communicate via SNS, and if you don't partake you're part of the outgroup. Childhood before these became mainstream was simpler, because there wasn't really any expectation of persistence – your "friends" were the people you interacted with frequently at school and hung out with during recess, and that was it (maybe one or two sleepovers or something).
>> No. 27668 [Edit]
>>27667
I don't know if i'm clinically diagnosed with that, I am not sure what I have. I always thoughts a lot of the mental illness stuff can just be like different states of mind. I get a little bit of neetbux right now, because I went to special education and I was pretty much mute, my mom is kind of poor as of now she lost her job because we moved and she needs to get qualifications or something for the state so she works a kind of bad job right now so most of it I think would go towards rent stuff.

As for friends, I was with peoples I met during all of elementary and middle school, in High School I never met anybody and I went mute and I just slept all day though school. I have always had a computer atleast, I remember in middle school I had some of my friends on skype, but we haven't talked in many many many years now.
>> No. 27669 [Edit]
>>27666
I was just reading this the other day and was wondering what you were up to now, it's always nice when people come back and give an update. I hope you can eventually overcome your anxiety with speaking soon, that sounds awful
>> No. 27670 [Edit]
>>27668
Sounds like something happened between middle and high school, or during high school, that triggered a change in your ability to communicate.
>> No. 27730 [Edit]
>>27666
Same here. I was good at maths as a child, but I discovered that I could skip classes in highschool school with no repercussions and so I never attended maths again.

I also share your fascination with the older internet, although I'm quite a bit older than you and I was actually around to see most of the web's development from about 2009 onward quite clearly.
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>>24553
I feel the same except I don't speak to any of my family at all besides asking to be fed and I don't care about old internet stuff. It was cool to see someone my age who feels the same about the world that I do. I've never felt that at all because I've been alone for my entire life. At school, I usually go to sleep or spend my time drawing gore while everyone pretends as if I don't exist. at home, I sit in my dirty room drinking Diet coke, reading manga and doing shit in flash till I go to sleep at 3 am. I wish I had friends and I wish my parents cared about me enough that they didn't send me away so they could spend more time with other kids. Sorry for this faggy blog post lol.
>> No. 27799 [Edit]
>>27773
>drawing gore
ooh, edgy are you?
OP was respectful when he said "I won't post in any threads except this one" and you should do the same. It's all well and good to say "I've literally been alone my entire life", but at the end of the day, you are 15 and have your entire life ahead of you.
>> No. 27801 [Edit]
>>27799
>have your entire life head of you

That might be true, but I don't think it's fair to assume anyone who found their way here ever really had a life ahead of them. Nor do I think that 15 is too early to know that. I didn't completely lose faith until I dropped out of college at 20, but I knew everything was fucked by the time I was ten.

Do you really think if you could go back things would be any different? If you could roll back the clock to your first day of high school, even knowing what you know now, could you have had a normal life?
>> No. 27802 [Edit]
>>27801
If one is on this site (and enjoys it) at 15, he's probably going to be de facto alienated from his peer group. That's not to say you're slated to become a NEET, (indeed one could quite easily get a job in one of the ee or cs adjacent fields), but even amongst 25+ very few seem to be left who enjoy slow long-form mailing-list-esque communication (and conversely dislike instant messaging). Amongst the < 18 crowd, I strongly believe it's only a handful.
>> No. 28083 [Edit]
>>24629
>>27666
I'm this guy who responded to you years ago, I was extremely up and down in 2019 to be honest so I had some high highs and low lows (it sounds very bipolary maybe, but it was really because I was constantly outside my comfort zone).

I kind of flunked a bit in COVID but graduated and have a masters degree now, and I'm moving to Japan soon to study some more. It feels pretty random in all honesty, especially when I was barely able to speak to people and was in pain all the time on top. I also watched Clannad last year and liked that girl.

I sometimes wonder if I'd have done so much if I was never afflicted with chronic pain, it basically gave me no choice but to improve. I would also be happy to talk to you about things if you'd like, as I find it interesting and nostalgic to think about these days.

P.s. I have been NEET for like half a year, but plan on studiyng at postgraduate.
>> No. 28084 [Edit]
More specifically I'm the one who used typeracer.

Overall I think I'm not really depressed, just bothered over some legitimate issues. It's tiring to keep trying, and I wish I could've grown up nicely as I for some reason can't get over the fact I missed my adolesence. A miraculous reversal nonetheless.
>> No. 29553 [Edit]
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29553
I might be the youngest person on this site, I recently turned 18, and I finished high school this year.
People would usually say that I'm extremely young and that I have my whole life ahead et al, but I gave up already.
There's nothing worth living for. I'm afraid of people and intimacy (aside from finding most people to suck/be incompatible with me). Growing up I was seen as "gifted" by adults and they might've had expectations that I would be a great programmer or scientist or whatever, but today to me that all looks shallow and pointless.
I just want to indefinitely be a NEET and rot in my room, but my parents wouldn't allow that and they're already mentioning that I should get a job (and no, neetbux are not an option, etc). All the jobs that aren't bottom of the barrel require a degree so I'm planning to go to college next year, but I expect it to be backwards just like school (but better than working shitty jobs).
I do at least have "hobbies" in the form of anime/games/VNs and browsing imageboards, and I also want to do some creative stuff like drawing or making games. Those things are entertaining enough for making a NEET lifestyle not completely boring, I guess.
I don't know what else to say for now.
>> No. 29554 [Edit]
>>29553
Nice to see some younger blood here. I think the sentiment you're expressing seems to be increasingly common, the original Chinese trend of "lying flat" movement has pretty much become the standard among young generations in the West.
>> No. 29555 [Edit]
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>>29553
If you want a low-effort lifestyle, putting effort now will pay off later on. I'm 23 and work a remote job where I do pretty much nothing, but ostensibly maintain COBOL code on a mainframe. Can't get those kinds of remote jobs without a degree.
>> No. 29556 [Edit]
>>29553
I'm barely older than you (soon 19), but I feel in a way similar. Since I dropped out of high school a handful of years ago, I've been been Hikki-NEET and I wonder how long I can continue this way of living. I really don't know, could be decades or just months. I wish it would last forever. Real life is so tiresome and I wish I could escape it indefinitely, but I have this gut feeling that the years of Hikkidom are going to bite me in the ass in one way or the other.

>I just want to indefinitely be a NEET and rot in my room,
>but I gave up already.
I don't think there is a shame in giving up. I don't want to discourage you or anyone, but I feel like in a lot of cases giving up is appropriate and sometimes the more rational choice, over just giving all you can all the time, because I sometimes the person giving all they can, isn't the one profiting, if there is anyone profiting at all. Maybe I'm just miserable and projecting my view of myself at others, but maybe there is some truth to this. I don't know.
>> No. 29557 [Edit]
>>29556
I want to emphasize, that I don't want to discourage you putting effort into college or anything (even though it really sounded like that) but I don't know your situation and maybe it's the rational choice or maybe it's not, I don't know. I just think that one shouldn't feel shame as a result of having given up for rational reasons.
>> No. 29561 [Edit]
>>29553
>>29556
21 Hikki-NEET here. After a few years, you'd find that it's a fate worse than death. With each passing day, the abyss claims another piece of your soul; and nothing seems to be behind those eyes anymore, completely hollowed out by the unending boredom and utter meaningless of existence.

I do not recommend pursuing this life path. I get that reality is absolutely a slaughterhouse propped up by slavery, but total resignation from life isn't the way to go; there are solutions and ways around it. So do everything in your power not to stay as one for any longer than necessary.
>> No. 29562 [Edit]
OP is 21 now, how does that feel? To see time slip away. It's so good to live without attachments. Feels lonely when you're sick though. Thankfully we only live about 50-70 years so it's a quick game.
>> No. 29563 [Edit]
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>>29553
Yes, you are quite young. But if you must go down the path of neetdom, I would suggest spending your time wise. Learn skills you want to learn. You mention drawing and games, both of these could even get you out of neetdom eventually, given you get lucky enough. Also, as was said in another thread here recently, live for yourself, you do not owe anyone becoming a great programmer, making a lot of money, or whatever expectations people are putting onto you.

>>29561
Life is meaningless, but you can give it meaning yourself. Find things you want to do, goals etc, and work towards them. Hitting the 5 year hikineet mark myself, and it's mostly what kept me going.

Apologies if any of this came across as rude or whatever, I'm not the best at putting my thoughts into words.
>> No. 29564 [Edit]
>you can give it meaning yourself
No you can't. I thought you can back in the day, but apparently it's hardwired that you can't. It would be severe mental illness if you could. Best you can do is to accept circumstances as they are, and once you're proficient with it, start pursuing duties, one by one, trying not to push yourself beyond your abilities. There is no meaning. And there's no need to find one.
>> No. 29565 [Edit]
And now you know why religion exists.
>> No. 29581 [Edit]
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>>29554
I don't know about "increasingly common", but wouldn't it be an exaggeration (to say the least) that it's the "standard" among "young generations"? I don't remember any of my classmates showing those tendencies, in fact some of them were quite enthusiastic about their "future" or whatever, and most of them are now in superior education or doing other things. I recently happened to have interactions with two of them, and both asked if there were news on my side.
>>29556
>>29557
For better or for worse NEETing for too long is not viable in my situation. I don't know if my parents would go as far as kicking me out, but it would definitely generate a lot of scandals and problems. The best I can do is drag myself through college for that piece of paper and look for an easy remote job.
Speaking of dropping out of high school, though... at one point I was in a bad mental state and really didn't want to keep going to school, and I contemplated on dropping out, but when I presented that idea to my mother, she understandably got very hysterical, and I reconsidered it. It was a really bad idea full of holes in the first place (especially since here you can't legally drop out of school until you're 18, so my plan was to just stop going, and just show up one class a week or so as an attempt to avoid getting in trouble with the CPS), but my situation back then drove me to consider it... but I digress. What I wanted to say is that dropping out of high school looks dangerous to me, as it entraps you and makes it harder to quit NEETdom if you ever need to. I'm glad that my stupid plan did not work out (if it had a chance to).
I wish you the best of luck, Anon.
>>29561
But is there a major alternative? I am unsuitable for human relationships. And the rat race looks crushing and mostly pointless. Also if going by the vision that the ultimate purpose in life is to procreate, that pretty much requires the previous two things. I don't know what's left then. Only hobbies or personal pursuits, but generally they're not completely fulfilling.
>> No. 29582 [Edit]
>>29581
>but wouldn't it be an exaggeration (to say the least) that it's the "standard" among "young generations"
Hm "standard among a generation" (averages) doesn't necessarily contradict with some individuals still being passionate. But yes I am surprised that your peers still expressed an interest. How recent were interactions with them? Generally as the economy continues to deteriorate I expect people those people to be rarer.
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>>29582
>passionate
That kind of sounds like an euphemistic way of describing it, most of the time it's just "NPC"/societal programming...
>How recent were interactions with them?
Probably around a month ago? School ended a couple months ago so there wouldn't be room for a large variation anyway...

Anyway, onto the main topic... To be honest that sounds actually delusional -- like if someone claimed that the moon is falling a la Majora's Mask or whatever -- unless I am the deluded one. Being on the rise is one thing, but "the standard"/"the average"/"most" young people adopting that mindset? Really?? There's no way, I just can't picture it. There would be a tangible societal collapse not to speak of constantly hearing about it. Even accounting for being quite out-of-touch, I'd definitely be aware of it.
>> No. 29588 [Edit]
>>29587
It probably depends on where you live.
>> No. 29589 [Edit]
>>29587
>but "the standard"/"the average"/"most" young people adopting that mindset? Really?? There's no way, I just can't picture it. There would be a tangible societal collapse

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-06-11/fewer-young-men-are-in-the-labor-force-more-are-living-at-home
https://www.newyorker.com/culture/2022-in-review/the-year-in-quiet-quitting
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2022/aug/06/quiet-quitting-why-doing-the-bare-minimum-at-work-has-gone-global
https://www.afterbabel.com/p/where-are-your-kids-schlott
https://fortune.com/2023/06/27/gen-zers-turning-to-radical-rest-delusional-thinking-self-indulgence-late-stage-capitalism-molly-barth/

You can decide for yourself how much is media-spin versus a real problem. As other anon said, it is likely location dependent. What I have observed myself is that for people who would be considered "entry-level" in the work-force, the volatility in employment situation and bad economy in general has shattered any notion that "working hard" will be proportionately rewarded. So many have realized that the optimal outcome is to coast.
>> No. 29590 [Edit]
>>29589
Because there is no point. I will only give myself to something worthwhile, and reiterating their money gains isn't worthwhile. I in fact wish big tech and business collapsed entirely and stopped bothering me. Careers, money, position, shove that up your ass. You company is a band of bitches
>> No. 29591 [Edit]
>>29589
Still, the articles look like they're talking about it just being on the rise rather than becoming "standard", but whatever. Who knows, really. Either way, regardless of their quantity I wouldn't find these people relatable and wouldn't like being compared to them since most of them would still be pretty much normalfags who care about social bullshit and all, but with the gimmick of not caring as much about work/career/money tacked on.
>> No. 29596 [Edit]
>>29591
That mindset is not the standard. It's only standard for the internet addicted and typically people of particular beliefs and leanings. A bunch of boomers writing articles on tiktok trends doesn't slot into how reality works. Pew Research polls show that the priorities of the average person (at least in the USA) has not changed at all in almost 40 years now, even among the gen z adults who responded. Culture has changed but people's wants have not, outside of the previously mentioned chronically online. People have been "quiet quitting" (doing their job to the best of their ability and nothing more) for hundreds if not thousands of years now. Don't listen to this bullshit it's all clickbait and mole hills being turned into mountains.
>> No. 29600 [Edit]
>>29596
Yeah, sounds about right.
>> No. 29746 [Edit]
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>>29596
I just found a relevant image on my hard drive (I hope that it's not /tat/ material).
>> No. 29747 [Edit]
>>29746
Golden. Thank you for posting this.
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