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23218 No. 23218 [Edit]
Post and discuss medical issues here. It helps to talk about them.

My lower left lung has been hurting, it feels like it's been stabbed. And I just coughed and tasted blood. Didn't see any blood when I went to the mirror and made myself cough again, just tasted it.
I'm scared. I'm poor. The doctors are going to let me die if it's cancer, I can't afford it. I did used to smoke but it was only for a year or two... I've been having trouble breathing but it might just be allergies. I will try to be optimistic.

I also went two years without brushing my teeth and my gums are so full of bacteria it's actually making me sick now. I'm sick constantly because of my own mouth, swallowing bacteria is irritating my throat and giving me a fever, and will be till I pay up $7,000 to unfuck my mouth. No root canals yet, and only two teeth have to be pulled, so that's a positive I guess. I got good teeth genetics from my folks. The dentist said average people would have had lots of teeth fall out by now.

Best advice I can give anyone is take Vitamin D supplements if you aren't in the sunlight at least 30 minutes a day. It helped me a lot.
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>> No. 23656 [Edit]
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>>23642
>male in my mid 20s and being 1.78m im supposed to get like 2300.
For a 25-year-old man weighting 180 pounds, the amount of calories needed to fulfil the basic metabolic rate is 1808 calories. For you to need 2300 a day, you'd need to weight 289 pounds. Even then, you shouldn't eat more than 1800, which is what you'd need to get daily, more or less, to maximize the loss of fat and lose minimal muscle.
>Why am I still a fat fuck, with man tits and tired all the time?
>up to half of what I consume is empty carbs, sugar
You answered yourself. It's true that losing weight mostly boils down to calories, but nutrition in general does not. What you eat does matter, and a lot of foods (specially junk food) are processed differently by the body, by the speed they are consumed and by how much additional food is consumed in quick succession.
>I just don't know how to get more energy
Stop smoking, move more, eat at least 3 meals a day (same amount of calories though), ditch the junk food, and...
>I've thought about multivitamins but can't afford it
You can afford tobacco, which is objectively poison, but not multivitamins, which cost like $1 per tube of 10 effervescent tablets? That's less than $4 a month.
>no green stuff or veggies other than occasional
It shouldn't be occasional. You should consume vegetables daily. I recommend broccoli and cauliflower, they look cute and have mostly all you need from vegetables; add carrot into the mix for sweeter taste.
>What the fuck can I do anons?
Keep an open mind regarding the fact that you got all this nutrition and dieting completely wrong and you need to forget all you think you know and start from the ground up. There are likely literally thousands of online resources that can help you learn about this. All you need to do besides that is stop smoking.
>> No. 23671 [Edit]
I have sleep problems. I wake up multiple times per night feeling out of breath. Sometimes I wake up gasping for air. It’s either a psychological issue, or maybe it’s sleep apnea. But I don't have health insurance, so I can't afford to get a sleep study.

Instead of being sympathetic, my roommate gets mad about it. It’s not something I can control though. It’s like being kicked when you’re down.

I wish I was rich enough to live on my own. Roommates suck sometimes. Roommates are not your friends. They’re just people you have to tolerate so you can have a lower cost of living.
>> No. 23672 [Edit]
>>23671
I doubt this'll solve your issue entirely and there's a chance you already know about this, but do you sleep on your back? it makes breathing in your sleep harder in general so if you do then sleeping on your side instead might help at least a little bit
>> No. 23673 [Edit]
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>>23671

sounds more like sleep apnea. Try a couple of the cure-for-snoring type of things, as most of them are directly related to sleep apnea (rather, they are the less-severe form of the issue)

You don't have an Obamacare package to cover the costs?

alternatively, work out or perform some sort of strenuous physical activity for a few hours, so you are dead tired before going to bed, and you may be able to sleep through it.
>> No. 23677 [Edit]
>>23673
I work out in the morning, not the evening. I feel more pumped up after working out, not tired.
>> No. 23710 [Edit]
Does alcoholism count as a medical issue? I have been getting drunk pretty much every night for the past couple weeks. Drunk right now even.
>> No. 23711 [Edit]
>>23710
Yeah, sure. I think you can actually get a diagnosis for alcoholism to the point where it can stop you from working... and even if you couldn't, if obesity is a medical issue, then I don't why alcoholism shouldn't be.
>> No. 23730 [Edit]
Lately my social anxiety and insomnia have been so bad that I get shaky when I go out in public. I wasn't like this even 1-2 weeks ago. It has gotten so much worse in such a short amount of time. I'm not normally like this. Scary how fast I'm deteriorating.
>> No. 26069 [Edit]
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>>23656
>I recommend broccoli
I don't know why everyone has such a hard on for broccoli and immediately recommends it to everybody. For somebody getting into vegetables, it seems like an especially bad choice. There's so many more palatable vegetables out there. All of the leafy greens like spinach, chard, lettuce, cabbage, radicchio and collard greens exist. There's also radishes, turnips and zucchini. Pickled bamboo shoots and more exotic stuff like that is also available. Broccoli makes people gaseous and doesn't taste good unless it's smothered in some sugary sauce.
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>>26069
Spinach needs to be prepared right for it to taste good, and lettuce is basically flavorless water-flavored fodder. Cabbage is usually a good choice though, and tomatoes (bought from local farms, not the mass-market stuff) can be delicious when lightly grilled.
>> No. 26071 [Edit]
>>26070
>lettuce is basically flavorless water-flavored fodder
Which is still better than broccoli. I enjoy lettuce and raw spinach in salads and sandwiches. I like cauliflower though.

Post edited on 10th Nov 2020, 1:48pm
>> No. 27513 [Edit]
I haven't been doing well lately. My diet is bad. I eat about 1.5 meals a day or less, sometimes I have a snack. I think I eat 3 or 4 different meals, all more or less consisting of the same thing.
Today my body feels especially frail and achey. I had a really nasty headache last night which made me throw up next to nothing. I've been shaky since then. Some days are better than others, but today is especially bad.
I've fairly recently been diagnosed with Hypothyroidism. I have meds for it, but I don't take them very often. I took them today, but it hasn't helped much.
I've been a bit sensitive to the cold lately too, but I've never handled air conditioning well. Maybe it causes the temperature to be a bit uneven or something.
I got a patch of skin on my scalp that's thick and really flaky which I have no idea about. It appeared sometime early last year.
I guess I shouldn't be surprised. I don't really take care of myself. I was doing a lot of running last year, but I fucked up my leg a bit in February.
I'm probably just malnourished and dehydrated, but I don't really know what I should be eating. Sorry if this post is hard to read. I just wrote what came to mind.
>> No. 27514 [Edit]
>>27513
>>27513
>1.5 meals a day
That seems fine, breakfast is a scam anyway so 1.5 meals is about optimal.

>Hypothyroidism
Are you getting enough iodine? Try munching on seaweed a bit? Thyroid conditions can affect sleeo and make you feel tired.
>> No. 27515 [Edit]
>>27514
They aren't good meals. Or anything. Usually something like half a burger with cheese and ketchup and fries and a bowl of cereal some mornings. Or Chicken and mac & cheese. Cheese pizza on weekends. I don't get much in the way of actual nutrients.

The hypothyroidism is genetic from what I can tell. Dad has it too. It's really not that terrible when I don't take my meds. Sure, I'm a bit tired, but on the other hand I'm a little more indifferent about things. Easier to take a deep breath and let it go. My arms being achey isn't so bad.
>> No. 27518 [Edit]
>>27515
If possible, I recommend buying a crock pot (or similar) and look for recipes that interest you. Contrary to popular belief, eating nutritious and delicious meals is not expensive, but one will have to put a bit effort into preparation. For example, cooking a chicken/turkey with seasoning and vegetables is both cost effective, healthy, and pretty dang tasty. Combine that with rice, and you'll be set.

>>27513
Please take your medication. There's serious complications for not maintaining your thyroid levels.
>> No. 27519 [Edit]
>>27518
My concern with that is that I'll buy ingredients for cooking and they'll have been used by the time I'm making whatever.
I've thought about buying white rice and eggs, because those never really get eaten but I enjoy them. I enjoy cooking as well, but it's difficult because the house is a little cramped.
>Please take your medication.
Fine.
>> No. 27520 [Edit]
>>27518
Anon probably does not like food or enjoy eating, let alone healthy food. If that's the case, it's the biggest determining factor in their eating situation. Not once have they mentioned eating a vegetable or fruit(besides processed tomatoes). If somebody doesn't enjoy food, or prioritize their health, they can't really be helped because they'll have 0 motivation to cook.
>> No. 27521 [Edit]
>>27520
I live at home. A NEET. I eat what's given to me. There are other factors in play.
>> No. 27522 [Edit]
>>27519
>>27520
In that case, could you supplement by taking vitamins/minerals to satisfy required micronutrients (you have to research a bit to find decent ones, the multivitamins you get at the supermarket aren't going to do anything, and 95% of what you buy from Amazon will be shoddy chinese goods laced with heavy metals)? That plus an occasional egg would probably be decent start.

Rice by itself is mostly just carbs (unless you get one of the fancy expensive rice strains), so that probably isn't going to make a difference.

>Usually something like half a burger with cheese and ketchup and fries and a bowl of cereal some mornings. Or Chicken and mac & cheese. Cheese pizza on weekends
You can try to swap these out for more decent variants. E.g. for the cereal, most cereals you get in the USA are full of sugar and low in nutrients. Try to find the one that is basically just shredded wheat, no added sugar. When I did some searching, I recall Multigrain-Cheerios was also a good one that was fortified with b12+zinc+some other things, so it's not a bad choice. For the burger, if you substitute the frozen patty with a bean-based one it might be slightly better. For the chicken, can probably occasionally substitute that with tofu based one, so at least you get exposure to a more diverse set of things.

Post edited on 17th Jun 2022, 10:16pm
>> No. 27525 [Edit]
>>23710
Please find something else to do, as a long-time alcohol abuser I can surely tell you it will/can lead to acid reflux problems, slowly intensify all your mental health issues, degrade your sleep quality and erode all your money. They are not "drinks", they actually dehydrate you and you are voluntarily poisoning yourself.
>> No. 27526 [Edit]
>>27513
>>27515
Thyroid issues can cause body temperature issues, mental health issues, low-energy, sleep-problems and many others if neglected. Genetics alone normally don't screw up your health, bad diet, stress, lack of exercise, etc does. Doctors are sadly not that interested in finding the root cause of your issues, they give you "medication" to suppress the currently apparent symptoms and thats it. You go back to them later, they give you some other pills or the same but higher dose.

>something like half a burger with cheese and ketchup and fries and a bowl of cereal some mornings. Or Chicken and mac & cheese. Cheese pizza on weekends

no offense to you or the well-intentioned people who give you this stuff but this is not food but shit. (Lot more addictive than any actual-food though, so people normally eat it till they fall apart.) Vitamins / supplements can't help much. Learn to cook for yourself, I suggest. It is easy and cheap once you know how to. (and when you are not trying to achieve the same level addictiveness that crap-food has.) Rice with veggies is easy to make for example. Quality fruit is best but most expensive. Even if you cant eat/cook what you want because of money and parent-dependence, still you can make small adjustments.

+There are foods that are "goitrogenic", meaning they screw up you thyroid when eating too much of them. High-oxalate foods, fluoride in tap water, iodine deficiency also.
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The right side of my stomach kept hurting these past 3 days. I didn't know drinking a lot of tea could be too acidic. Usually I can drink a lot of it, but guess my stomach had enough. After trying many things, greek honey yogurt seems to have helped it stopped hurting, so I hope it stays that way.
>> No. 27529 [Edit]
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>>27528
Try replacing some of your intake with herbal teas. I recommend hibiscus and pu'er.
>> No. 27731 [Edit]
>>27528
The same thing has been happening to me . . .
It's on my lower right side. I think it might be caused by glutenous foods primarily, but I'm not so certain. I need to experiment more with it.

It could really be anything. One time the pain was truly awful for about 3 seconds, but 99% of the time it's just dull or sharp and weird.
>> No. 27742 [Edit]
Seeing people post about Aphantasia causes a very deep dread and unease in me. I've always hoped they were just trolling or being retarded because the thought of such a condition, and the thought that I could someone get it as I get older, gives me an existential dread. My imagination is so important to me as one of my primary methods of entertainment, and as a child one of my only methods many times, the idea that some people just don't have it or have a very neutered version of it is sickening. Their view of life must be so much more simple than what I expect as a minimum that it makes me want to cry. I would want my memory to go before my ability to imagine things. I would actually kill myself if I could visualize things that I was thinking about.
>> No. 27743 [Edit]
>>27742
>and the thought that I could someone get it [sic] as I get older
I don't think it's a condition that you can develop over time, you either have it or don't. Or if it did, it'd probably also be correlated with severe brain damage like alzheimers or something. That should not be interpreted as saying that people with aphantasia have brain damage though, they can function perfectly fine and are virtually indistinguishable from regular people (which is why it went unnamed for so long). It'd likely be as impossible for a non-aphantasiac (sp?) to understand how an aphantasiac views things as vice-versa, but you can probably imagine it being encoded as closer to a locality-sensitive hash or something if someone wants to recall spatial or visual information.

Post edited on 14th Oct 2022, 9:50pm
>> No. 28310 [Edit]
I got diagnosed with some really nasty skin cancer this year, and I realized that I will not reach 50yo despite having a really healthy lifestyle.
I don't want go through chemotherapy and radiotherapy, so, if I ever have metastasis at some point I myself
>> No. 28311 [Edit]
>>28310
Is surgery not an option? If it were me I'd do the calculus based on quality of life, feeling like shit for a decade due to chemo just so you can live until 80 (the last years of which you probably won't be able to do much anyhow) seems less worth it than living an ok life until 50.

Although it really depends on the situation, any systemic treatment is going to have a large number and long-lasting side-effects. But it seems like skin cancer is something that could be treated with localized methods?
>> No. 28312 [Edit]
>>28311
I had a really invasive surgery few months ago, but since some people of my family had colon cancer young as 38yo I'm already saving money so I can travel to Canada for an euthanasia in order to avoid a long and annoying chemo and radio treatment that is only good for hospitals and doctors.
I'm already okay with dying since I'm almost 40yo and live as a coward that never fought enough to achieve his dreams. It's fucking over now, but I can at least be euthanized and have by body disposed in a way that other people don't have to clean a mess.
>> No. 28315 [Edit]
>>28312
If this helps I can tell you the viewpoint from the Bible.
You go to hell if you kill yourself, so yeah... The right thing to do according to it would be, while praying through Jesus that God cures you if you wish to inherit the kingdom of heaven, either to receive treatment or simply live with it, whichever you really believe to be right. If you really wish to inherit it then pray through Jesus that God makes you into someone that will inherit it as well. If you still end up dying then you can just rejoice if you have really been praying. That is it I think
>> No. 28316 [Edit]
>>28315
>>28315
Putting aside whether the popular Judeo-Christian notion of heaven is even right, can you point out where the bible says this? From what I can gather skimming the internet, most people only cite the "thou shalt not murder" commandment and interpret suicide as self-murderer which is really stretching it. There are some tales of suicides, and the people who committed those were not righteous people, but that doesn't say anything about the act of suicide by itself. The only argument is that taken as a whole, suicide can be considered a loss of faith that God will end up "make things right" for you. Which is pretty much ontologically equivalent to the "life is a gift" argument.
>> No. 28317 [Edit]
>>28316
If it really was alright it probably would have been talked about and done more in the Bible, right? Yet I am at least unaware of someone in the New Testament that is perceived as generally in the right or whatever committing suicide

Post edited on 9th Jul 2023, 1:03pm
>> No. 28318 [Edit]
>>28316
I think the issue is going against the will of god, not so much self-murder.
>> No. 28319 [Edit]
>>28315
I never remember that God exist and don't understand how people are able of do it because I'm always worried about stray bullets or if some robbery will kill me over 10 USD and some shitty Android smartphone.
I only think and remember about my own survival and how I need be always ready for kill or be killed.
It's not like I despise people that believe in God, I'm simply too worried for think about it.

I wish you guys have a life better than mine.
>> No. 28320 [Edit]
>>28319
Thank you

What do you think about the idea of there being a God-shaped hole in every human's soul? https://library.iusb.edu/search-find/archives/gcarchive/docs/writ-god-shaped.pdf
>> No. 28326 [Edit]
>>27513
Just FYI for your meds for hypothyroidism. I'm assuming you mean levothyroxine. Its not the type of medication that if you take it you feel better and if you don't take it you feel worse like ibuprofen or something. it takes weeks for your body to adjust to that stuff from what I understand, so taking it regularly is key if you want it to work.
>> No. 28327 [Edit]
>>28320
I don't like how this conversation is straying from the OP's subjectand delving into religion since that is against tohno chan rules.
Let's call it a day, okay? I don't want be banned
>> No. 28328 [Edit]
>>28327
>banned
Why do you people pretend to enjoy snail pace altchans anyway? Just give into the despair. And for the op:
>pectus excavatum
Not particularly extreme but it’s very lopsided, even after getting in shape enough to run 18 minute 5ks and deadlift 5 plates I still look like complete shit. Also it causes me constant pain that doctors couldn’t care less about. Apparently codeine has no effect on me and they refuse to prescribe anything stronger
>autism
Probably pretty standard around here, but worse than your average “aspie”. Was basically mute all of my last couple years of school and all of uni
>schizo
Apparently pretty rare for it to combine with the ‘tism but I’ve got it anyway thanks to an extensive family history.
>cystic acne
Continued well into adulthood despite taking accutane. Don’t really get it at this point but am still completely covered in scars from it, and I mean covered, I even got acne on my dick/legs/feet/eyelids.

Anyway blogpost over, you faggots need to move on. Only good altchan is waifuist
>> No. 28329 [Edit]
>>28328
>altchans
Go back to your "main"chan.
>> No. 28330 [Edit]
>>28329
I intend to, though i’m curious as to if there’s any site you consider a “main” chan beyond the obvious one. Also from your comment it seems you object to the term “altchan”, and if so why? I can’t imagine many people find their way here without having first gone through the so called “main” chan.
>> No. 28331 [Edit]
>>28330
1. They're imageboards, not "chans"
2. 4chan isn't even the first English imageboard
3. 4chan is shit

I found out about tc from uboachan, which I found on an imageboard directory. Never regularly used 4chan. Also, "waifuist" is a blindingly obvious honeypot.
>> No. 28334 [Edit]
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>>28330
Seeing every smaller english-language imageboard as a shadow of 4chan isn't either healthy or particularly useful, I think. Surely 4chan is generally significant, and surely they share a common format and perhaps a few branches of history, but that's about where similarities end; reductionistically shelving a set of diverse communities into either "4chan" and "not 4chan" largely misses what makes a place worthwhile for whoever's there, and for what? I don't think I'd be particularly ecstasic about a place whose primary raison d'etre was being "not 4chan".
>> No. 28339 [Edit]
>>28331
>>28334
The word 'altchan' is used because it is not like imageboard users use a variety of different websites and each website has it's own community. It's more like 95% of imageboard is 4chan, with that last 5% mostly being taken up by 8chan/kun and the likes, which are just as bad as 4chan, and the rest, like this one, being so slow and small that there isn't the history and original culture that 4chan had, and arguably still has. Can you really tell me this place has any real history, any real original culture even comparable to what 4chan has? Imageboard culture grew up on 4chan and if it did not exist, imageboards in the west would not be a thing. All this culture, the name of this board being 'so ronery', the word 'waifu', heck almost the entirety of western otaku culture, grew up on 4chan. I would have thought the majority of people here would be people who have fond memories of using /a/ back in the day when it was better, realising its decline into shit and retreating here. Instead we have people who are so new that they can only see 4chan in its current state, not knowing just how important it was and how it used to be, and do not have the ability to find that sense of community that still exists, siphoning the shit to find the gold that still exists.
>> No. 28340 [Edit]
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>>28339
>being so slow and small that there isn't the history and original culture that 4chan had
The point of this website is to talk about things, not circlejerk over in-jokes and "history". Having long conversations is not a part of 4chan "culture". Any real conversations on there are incidental.
>almost the entirety of western otaku culture, grew up on 4chan
Most of which is garbage. You could barely call it a culture. The only significant value within "western otaku culture" is people translating things. Toonami was completely independent, and there was already anime conventions, usenet groups, and forums. Also, the whole weaboo thing came from 4chan, which led to ironic weebs and other such cancer. Moot was a faggot and a terrible steward of any burgeoning otaku culture, mostly because he prioritized growth over everything else.
>/a/ back in the day when it was better
/a/ was always terrible. I know this because the earliest threads are archived. It's all stupid shit. Whatever good people see in it, is either bad taste, or rose-tinted glasses.

Post edited on 14th Jul 2023, 7:12am
>> No. 28341 [Edit]
>>28339
Some if not many have lost the capacity to have fun, I'm afraid.
>> No. 28342 [Edit]
>>28339
You have very strong rose tinted glasses. You can browse /a/ archives yourself, it's not like back then people had high-quality discussions. At most you could say that the SNR has worsened a bit from back then.

I don't really care about history or culture, TC has relatively high high quality discussions which is all that matter to me, and the slowness is a feature not a bug. No one would bother typing up in-depth posts if they'd disappear within a day. If anything, TC is truer to the idea of textboards/imageboards as a medium for anonymous discussion.
>> No. 28343 [Edit]
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I liked old /a/. There were quality discussions, just not all threads had them, but they weren't rare. Even off-topic was allowed and enjoyable. I think there was a point between the juvenile classic 4chan and the shit of today when it reached a certain maturity and self-awareness. I miss those times.
>> No. 28349 [Edit]
>>28340
>>28342
I'm not saying /a/ is or was the pinnacle of good discussion, because when I said 'better' I didn't mean just better discussion, but also fun on-the-side unserious discussion where you can crack jokes and argue with anonymous strangers. We differ on what we consider enjoyable or 'good' on the internet, you like serious discussion, I don't mind it, but I also like unserious discussion with other people who like the same things as me. If I wanted only serious discussion back then, I would have gone onto any anime forum ever, not 4chan.

>>28340
>western otaku culture is garbage
I dunno man, I had fun.

>>28341
You can go on /a/ right now and have fun. Seriously. There's watch-a-longs and sing-a-longs, and due to its speed, there's almost always a thread about one of my favourites, even if it's really old and obscure at this point, and there's always new people who just watched that thing and they ask questions I can answer. (tc's speed means despite quality, there's much less variety of active discussion)

Bottom line, tc is fundamentally different from 4chan in that it seems to be all serious all the time, and I'm not going to change that. I'm just playing devil's advocate and saying that 4chan is/was not as bad as you think. Now here's to hope this thread can be saved from my derail.
>> No. 28361 [Edit]
got seriously messed up teeth, cant be bothered to do anything about it. probably more than i can afford anyway
>> No. 28363 [Edit]
>>23227
this was my last post

im getting surgery to fix the sleep apnea (mandible advancement surgery). if it doesnt fix it i dont really know what to do with my life any more
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