>>37061
It is. Just try and see something from outside of your narrow and simplistic field of view for once. The artist is not 'god', he is not the creator of the original work, whatever he makes is clearly not cannon and not a reflection of the actual character.

And another thing, men often see sexualisation in two radically different ways anyway. A simple explanation would be the way men treat loose women, sure they will use them but unless they are of questionable standards themselves they will not marry them and sure the majority of men don't think twice about porn but if it was their sister or daughter or wife they clearly would not see it the same or approve of them doing it.

>>37066
>>37067
Because Japan would never do anything like that at all now would it? It's not like hoards of otaku that lust after an idol have not cast her aside and ruined her career when it came out that she had a boyfriend.

>>37072
>That's dumb
>It is
Glad you agree.

>>37071
The entire thing is self-serving. Body and sex "positivity" exists to remove and circumvent any potential repercussions of sexually promiscuity and infidelity, and the lesser desirability of fat and old people(almost entirely for woman). It's not about making everybody happier or whatever, despite what they say. Porn, sexually suggestive material, and sex work are ideologically demonized because those "exploit" or objectify women and supposedly set a bad precedent for how they'll be treated in real life.

Basically, they want to have their cake and eat it too. Men who can't or don't want to play the real life social game, but want a sexual release, can go fuck themself.

>>37059
The entire complex around sexuality is a confusing mess of rules that's difficult to make sense of. Part of that's different people spewing different things and the other part is that people rarely have thought out principles. They just say whatever gets them the most benefit and piece together some reasoning for it. We're not saints here either. It's pretty endemic.

A big part is that lefties tend to demonize male sexuality which results in this behavior but that might be a bit too /tat/ for /ot/.

I don't want to brush too broad stokes, because some chinese uploaders do upload the original, but I've noticed that some doujinshi are uploaded and can be found online, but only a chinese translation. That means that somebody bought the original, had parts of it translated, and uploaded that, but didn't just upload the original too, even though they have it. This isn't an issue with respecting the original artist or whatever, they still uploaded the work in some form, the problem is that they didn't just do the simple, logical thing, and upload the original too. Why? Why the fuck would they do that?

Some people might think, Japanese, Chinese, what's the difference? Except people who can read Japanese don't have a use for the chinese translation. I almost think this is a conspiracy to try to get people to learn Chinese because I can't think of one good reason why somebody would do this.

>>37078
I've heard somewhere that the Chinese scanlation scene is very competitive. Can't comment more on this, as I don't know much how things are there.

>>37073
Purityfags and anglo cultural puritanism have no correlation, from their manifestation to their underlying causes. I'm confused as to how that correlates with westerners freaking out over characters being sexy in anime.

>>37078
While I can empathize with your frustration, to be fair, I don't think it's limited just to Chinese uploaders. It's happened to me with other languages too, but maybe I wasn't looking hard enough or in the right places. Do scanlators normally distribute their raws along with their scanlations? I thought they didn't.
>This isn't an issue with respecting the original artist or whatever, they still uploaded the work in some form,
>I can't think of one good reason why somebody would do this.
I doubt most Chinese care about this, and maybe this isn't a good reason, but you could argue that distributing scanlations detracts from domestic manga sales less than distributing raws does, because most Japanese readers wouldn't bother with scanlations.

>>37081
>Do scanlators normally distribute their raws along with their scanlations?
My impression was that translators usually used the uploads other people already posted of the original. Does this happen with other languages, because I've never seen it before with anything but Chinese.

>>37073
That's completely unrelated. You sound like someone who doesn't know much about idols.

>>37087
It's the same and happens with anime VAs too.

>>37094
Remember the Haruhi fiasco? People were blaming the lack of season 3 on that.

I don't get people who get into animation in the US. 99% of animation produced in the states is for kids, but is that what every animation student wants to do? Do they get into animation because they just really want to entertain kids with visually and narratively boring, safe fluff? It's not just Disney or whatever recognizable names you're thinking of. That's actually as good as it gets. You've also got people who make shows for pbs.

I was looking at some of the ones I watched as a kid, and it struck me that people went to college and paid money so they could make that. Were they expecting that? Do they have nothing else they'd rather be making? As a student, why did they even like animation to begin with? What is their mindeset? I'd rather be an accountant than do something that depressing.

>>37126
Isn't US "animation" just CG (flash) since 2007 or so?

PBS (Kids) shows also used to be pretty decent, but everything seems like it's dumbed down now. (I think this is best seen with sesame street. In the past they put a lot of effort into it. They even commissioned Philip Glass to write the background music for an animation sequence: https://muppet.fandom.com/wiki/Geometry_of_Circles Dialogue used to be packed with wordplay [Shady Salesman, Bert/Ernie have some great moments of humor]. Now everything has been elmo-ified ).

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>>37127
Yes, but I imagine that's what college students with a degree in animation end up doing because I can't imagine what else it would be. I don't about pbs shows being good at any point, especially in animation. Arthur was their best looking cartoon if I remember right. I'm not a fan of edutainment as a concept. That Philip Glass thing is pretty cool though.

>>37126
Cos Disney Ruined Culture
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jed8B4L4-4
tl, dr: making everything adorable & being run by accountants instead of creatives

I want a gun so badly, preferably a milsurp rifle with cheap ammo and a decent track record for being either very reliable or very easy to maintain, but I'm so fucking poor and I have a minor history of mental health so I'm pretty sure it would be a bad economic decision. But without a decent gun I just feel like a pleb. I'm not part of any gun cultures either, and I don't really like those people. I just want the most important and necessary human tool.

Arguing is annoying to me. It's probably just because I've never been really good at it but it's annoying to want to express my opinion and then immediately have someone trying to start a debate with me with the other person just being obtuse or misinterpreting what I said no matter how hard I try to make my point as clear as possible. I know this sounds like a ford driver thing to say since they don't like anything that isn't blind agreement but I just don't bother replying to people often. I can't think of good counterarguments on the spot, I would probably just make myself look dumb, and even if I do a good job at trying to prove myself right someone will just move the goalpost or have some kind of laser focus on some minor detail while missing the rest of the point I tried to make. It's just not worth it most of the time since people are deeply rooted in whatever position they have anyway or just want to be confrontational, thus making any efforts to change their mind a waste of time.

>>37142
It helps when you don't assume the other person knows what you're thinking, randomly bring things into the conversation without elaborating, deny obvious implications of the things you write, be condescending and generally act like an above it all prick.

>>37142
Nobody ever wins an argument on the internet.

>>37140
I used to have two but then I went overseas so I had to sell them. I don't know, they are nice and all and I would like to have them again but they are just that, nice. I liked owning them in the way I like owning fumos I didn't really use them much as it can be a pain, only a fumo is much cheaper and has far less hurdles.

I don't like music videos. I think they distract from what people are listening to and waste money. I'd rather visualize music by myself.

>>37095
That's very overblown too. People act like she was a pariah after that yet she continued to get acting roles and continued to put out albums, which only stoped for a while because of a tumour. Again, people who don't know much about idols love to go on about big incidents that they overblow the significance of.

>>37148
I'm glad I don't know much about idols. Perfect Blue is my main source of information on that.

>>37147
For some reason music videos always have 3DPD in them. I like AMVs for that reason.

>>37150
AMVs are fan-made and set music to unrelated clips of an anime though. There's crawling in my skin AMVs.

>>37151
>There's crawling in my skin AMVs.
Those are the only ones I remember.

>>37150
I wouldn't say always. What about stuff from gorilaz, or 555?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Qxe-QOp_-s

>>37149
Basing everything you know about a subject entirely on a single movie doesn't seem like a very reasonable thing.

>>37148
Most likely the outrage was primarily amongst Otaku(such as the ones who send angry letters or destroyed merchandise) and not the mainstream but it did happen and she did suffer role wise because of it, before that she was getting huge leading roles, after she was getting incredibly minor ones like Alisa from GuP.

Ohh, and at the time she was meant to get a lead role in Kizumonogatari but there was a petition created to have her removed. I don't know how many signatures it got but she did not get the role.

>>36675
"banned artist: 29K"
Does that tell you why I hate danbooru?

>>37149
That's very ignorant. Kon himself has said that the movie isn't about idol culture. It's like saying you know about the lifestyles of the Amish because you watched Witness.

>>37157
As I said, she had a tumour which led to her not taking anymore leading roles.
>>37158
I've never heard of that but it wouldn't even make sense as there are no female characters in Kizumonogatari that would have needed to be cast since they already had chosen seiyuu. Hanekawa was already Yui Horie and Shinobu was already Maaya Sakamoto.

>>37171
It sounds like an excuse that was very conveniently happening around the time of the scandal and was very short lived, this was from here Wikipedia page

>to facilitate her care, she announced in April 2011 that she had been prohibited from taking on new voice acting roles since the previous year. She still continued voicing characters for anime that received additional seasons or extended runs.[22] Citing a need for a new agency that was more ideal for her career wishes, she announced on August 12, 2011, that she had left Space Craft Entertainment.[23] On August 21, Hirano moved to the voice acting agency Grick.[24] Days later, on August 27, she posted a message on her Twitter account, confirming that she had resumed new voice acting roles in anime.[25]

She had announced that she would stop taking new roles in April yet by August she had already overturned that. I don't believe that her lack of major roles had anything to do with this tumor either as she was still voicing Lucy from Fairy Tail, that's a pretty serious and long running role, if she had to stop any role it would be that one.

>>37171
You can google it for the details, it's not like it's a dark secret. It did happen.

>>37171
>Shinobu was already Maaya Sakamoto.
In the drama CD Hyakumonogatari that came out while Bake was on the air, Hirano voiced Shinobu, although her only role was (mis)reading the chapter titles out loud. Kizu's adaptation was announced the following year, the same year that the backlash against Hirano exploded. Nise's adaptation was announced the year after along with a PV for Kizu that left Shinobu's seiyuu unspecified (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT0uCAwLnjA). Sakamoto did not voice Shinobu until Nise's adaptation.

>>37142
I agree. Fuck arguing, I'd rather have an echo chamber. Yes, yes, "echo chamber", thought-terminating cliche, no good, very bad, blah blah blah. Don't fucking care. I'm not some dumdum who'll become epistemically closed from spending time in an echo chamber, so if I did spend the time I'd get all of the benefits and none of the drawbacks.

>>37126
The funniest thing I heard about animation is people saying that it's not "real".

Cos NCIS with its ZNN news network and investigators that break the rules are? The worse kind of lie is a 1/2-lie because it entangles the truth with it. Somehow mentioning that mainstream shows are adults playing pretend upsets plebians.

At least with animation, I can view it on its own merit rather than who acts in it.

>>37199
By "real" they don't mean non-fictional. Although there are probably some people who only like watching documentaries. Many people are incapable of immersing themselves in a story unless they see 3dpd in front of them or can imagine it like with a book. If it's animated, they can't "get into it" or whatever.

>At least with animation, I can view it on its own merit rather than who acts in it.
VAs though. A good one can really enhance the experience.

>>37202
I've never been a huge fan of VA worship. Forgive me for saying this, but they all sound the same to me with the exception of a few male voice actors and then it's usually the very distinct ones like Takehito Koyasu. Actually I have a bit of IRL face blindness as well.

>>37205
It's not really about VA worship, or uniqueness. It's an appreciation of the craft and what they pull off in the moment. We take it for granted, but when you have the misfortune of listening to bad VAs in something seriously low budget/effort(mars of destruction), you understand the value of good ones.

>>37252
Not only that, but the director's input on how a character should speak is a huge influence. In some cases VAs whose voices I wouldn't be able to distinguish can give absolutely killer performances given the right character and direction. There's a lot that goes into it.

I live in a country so capitalistic that people here would probably even charge you a monthly rate for the oxygen you breathe, if they could. I'm sick of being charged shit like "security deposits", "activation fees", and etc. for services, as if I don't pay so much for them already.

I just asked the front office of my apartment complex today if I could have my room switched to my former roommate's who left, and they told me I would have to pay a 300$ "transfer fee". They said she never terminated her lease, so that room is still technically hers, so I asked if I could have it once her lease is up. They still told me I'd have to pay 300$. I'm pretty sure she has no intention of coming back..and I pay 720$ for rent already. Are they just that lazy to change some paperwork? Or do they just not want me moving out of this room with crappy sunlight and into the better one, because then they'll hardly find anyone that wants mine?

Landlords, utility companies, and the like are all just con artists. When my family had to put down a "security deposit" to lease their department, the money was never given back to them until they pressed for it. My apartment complex has still never given back mine, either. My utility company also told me I'd have to pay over a 100$ "initial deposit" just to start my account. I wish all these places would take these "deposits" and "fees" and shove it up their ass.

>>37274
You made me remember how atrociously difficult is to rent a place in my country. It's literally harder than just buying, last time I had to block 7300€ to prove I was solvent, pay 100€ then 300€ a year to my bank to block me my money, pay 100€ to a notary to certify the whole thing happened, pay 1000€ to an advisory because reasons and finally pay 1200€ to the owner of the place just in case. And after all that I can't even leave the place without paying 600€ for every year of contract I don't satisfy.
Then you hear the boomers complaining young people don't go live by themselves and leech their parents; maybe it's because your generation decided to go turbo jew and make them pay the last cent for the most basic things so you can live without doing shit, you fucks. I suspect I probably ranted about this before, sorry about that.

>>37274
Unfortunately, some of these fees and charges are perceived to be necessary due to bad actors who wish to abuse services. There are a lot of terrible people out there--on the supply and consumer sides.

>>37283

In that case, I could understand the idea of a "security deposit" that will eventually be returned, but forgetting to return it or outright refusing to just seems like a dishonest practice to take even more of an unsuspecting person's money, more often than not. Colleges are especially guilty of this nowadays. I recently began to apply for study abroad and now apparently I will owe my college 225$ just for the application, whether I get accepted or not. You could argue that fee is justified because of the paperwork they do for the student or something, but since it is an external program, most of my application so far has been done and will probably be reviewed without the school's involvement.

>>37311
The college application fee serves dual purpose: it's a way for colleges to make free money off of the boatload of applicants and it also serves to discourage people from applying to places that they don't care about.

>>37312
It serves a third purpose as well, discouraging poor 'people'.

>>37311
>In that case, I could understand the idea of a "security deposit" that will eventually be returned, but forgetting to return it or outright refusing to just seems like a dishonest practice to take even more of an unsuspecting person's money, more often than not.
That doesn't sound just like it's dishonesty; it sounds illegal depending on the involved parties' jurisdictions and contractual obligations. I've made similar deposits before, but I've always gotten most of the money returned since I don't make a mess of my apartments. Haven't dealt with a slumlord, though.