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17897 No. 17897 [Edit]
I remember that quite a while ago, /mai/ was discussing what the official symbol for Waifuism should be. Unfortunately, I couldn't find the old thread that was discussing this topic. I thought it was a cool idea at the moment. You guys were saying it was one way to spot out "waifriends" in public. It's also one way to distinguish those that take waifuism serious from those who don't. Plus, from my experience I've learned that a concept is twice as powerful/sturdy when it has a name and symbol. We already have the name "Waifuism", now we need our symbol. Don't know if any of you who were discussing it are still around, but I'll ask anyway (This is directed for anybody who recently got here and maybe perhaps lurkers who have any suggestions or remarks as well).

"Does this symbol still stand as our official symbol?" Or have you guys perhaps thought of ways to amend this symbol? Have you guys decided to just drop and forget this for certain reasons? Or are you guys perhaps indifferent about this?

Again, I personally thought this was a good idea. I'm all for having a symbol.
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>> No. 17903 [Edit]
>>17897
It came about in this thread >>8705

Personally, I don't have a desire for any kind of symbol but I won't stop anybody who likes the idea. I don't think panties are a good basis though.
>> No. 17936 [Edit]
I've always thought the white/turquoise stripe thing was a "slutty" character marker.
So, it's use as a waifuism symbol is rather backwards in my mind.

I'm not sure the same people that have a waifu are in the mood to spot eachother in real life. Certainly not with some ambiguous symbol presumably printed on clothing.

This goes into /ot/ territory but back on 4chin when people were talking about how to identify each-other in real-life most would realize that it's an awful idea it's not like having two colleagues get together for a chat. It's like retards colliding in public without handlers.
>> No. 19978 [Edit]
>>17897
Actually saw somebody who had this symbol on a flag in the background of their profile picture. I remembered it looked very familiar. Just recently, I remembered that the symbol on that flag came from old threads here. It DID originate from /mai/ threads, right? Either way it was pretty nostalgic to see.
>> No. 19979 [Edit]
If anything, someone publicly displaying a waifu flag would be a sign that I want to stay away from them, not make friends. There's a difference between having strong personal feelings about a fictional character and advertising to strangers that you consider that part of your identity.

That said, I don't think a shimapan triangle is a good symbol for this. I don't know what would be a good symbol. A stylized daki?
>> No. 20000 [Edit]
>>17897
I rendered it back in the days, after Shinden's suggestion: >>14304.

From the beginning, it was meant to be just an inside joke: a selfdeprecating humorous way to identify ourselves as a 2D-con 'ghetto', like how people who were forced to wear certain tringle marks at concentration camps used them afterwards as edifying; or, as expressed in >>14337

>to turn what was or still is regarded as a mark of shame into a symbol of pride as a community.

I still like the idea cause I enjoy symbols, black humor and such. But it was nothing serious, let alone official: just a game some of us played along with to kill some time. You don't need to adhere to it if you find it offensive in any way.
>> No. 20007 [Edit]
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20007
I don't know if there would be interest in this, but this thread reminded me of a minor movement on 4/pol/ called Waifuitic National Socialism. This is its symbol.
>> No. 20008 [Edit]
>>20007
That thing looks like ass.
>> No. 20010 [Edit]
>>20008
Does it really surprise you that weeb nazis can't draw?
>> No. 20021 [Edit]
>>20018
Just wanted to say that I like your post and I think it's a good symbol as well.
>> No. 20022 [Edit]
>>20018
Well, I'm glad you're getting something good and
restorative from it, as that was the intention. *cheers*
>> No. 20036 [Edit]
>>20018
i admire your patriotism and devotion brother

personally i think using a symbol to identify waifuism is a good idea. symbols and icons have a power to solidify and consolidate a groups identity, but perhaps even more importantly, the identity of the individual. although i think having a symbol like this is a nice means of being able to recognize people belonging to this ideological confederation, i think the real value in a symbol like this is that in wearing it, adorning, or just keeping it with us, it can be a stabilizing reminder of our identity.
>> No. 20815 [Edit]
>>20018
Where can I get this
>> No. 20841 [Edit]
>>20815

I got it custom made online
>> No. 20845 [Edit]
>>20018
While the meaning behind a symbol it's not its origins, everything has a story, and that is undeniable.
In the case of shimapan, of course it would look slutty to some, maybe even laughable. And it's understandable, because it's mostly and widely used in all kinds of hentai/ecchi situations or context. I've been thinking about this symbol for a while, but I can't seem to be able to leave the history of the symbol behind. It's a shimapan, after all.
I'm not saying that it should be dropped. I've read the other thread, and I've seen how you've come to this conclusion. But I would like to think about linking it with some other things that relates to 2D-love, maybe something that it's not so related to the more erotic aspect of anime/manga/LN/VN. I do like and I agree with the decision of it being a triangle, though.
Sorry if I came up as aggressive or not recognizing yours and everyone's efforts. I know it is based on nice intentions, and it really hurts me to point this out, but I feel that it's something that I needed to express. I hope it doesn't incomodate you or anyone.
Would it bother anyone if I research and propose something else? Sorry if I'm being rude.
>> No. 20848 [Edit]
>>20845
>Sorry if I came up as aggressive or not recognizing yours and everyone's efforts. I know it is based on nice intentions, and it really hurts me to point this out, but I feel that it's something that I needed to express. I hope it doesn't incomodate you or anyone.
He doesn't speak for everyone and you shouldn't feel bad at all to criticize the choice. I, for one, find it repugnant and disgraceful to use such a vulgar and primitive symbol to represent something so pure in such a distilled form. Today more than ever normals elevate sex (and with it lewdness) as the prime medium of closeness between people, to the point classic romanticism is all but dead, and degenerate, selfish, cruel behaviour has become both the norm and default for day-to-day relationships. To follow their example and set panties as the representation of love for a "movement" that has as a common element a life choice that is intrinsically intimate (loving your waifu, which ultimately shouldn't be anyone's business but your own) is practically a mockery to me.

With that said, Daneola has stated the design and creation is for his sake and hasn't tried to push it as an official motif, so you shouldn't take it as one.
>> No. 20849 [Edit]
Well, you have to consider that /mai/ isn't within the cultural realm that "normal" people operate in, and the values that "normal" people have don't necessarily have to apply to it. I think the only one here associating shimapan with the idea of "disgusting sex" is you.

Post edited on 21st Feb 2018, 1:49pm
>> No. 20851 [Edit]
>>20849
>/mai/ isn't within the cultural realm that "normal" people operate in
I agree.
>and the values that "normal" people have don't necessarily have to apply to it.
Keyword being "necessarily". It's like saying murder doesn't apply to non normals because they don't qualify for normaldry, or that robbery doesn't count if the perpetrator isn't a normal. It's still murder, it's still robbery. Degeneracy is degeneracy no matter who does it or for what reason. The reasoning you're using is the very same one normals use to push depravity into the mainstream by calling it "art".
>I think the only one here associating shimapan with the idea of "disgusting sex" is you.
Read the thread again, and then read the previous threads as well. And it's not about "disgusting sex", since it'd be understandable for anyone to have fantasies about making love to their waifu, which is both pure and wholesome. The issue is that the symbol reduces love to underwear, which it's invariably used as a sexual gag in otaku culture, and by using that symbol, it reduces waifuism to a fetish. How can I not consider it a mockery?

Again, to each their own, and they're not pushing the symbol to be officialized. I replied to an anon who had a misconception, which I deem should be cleared immediately, and who I deemed was being extremely tip-toey about a subject they don't need to be.
>> No. 21213 [Edit]
Welp

https://kommandostore.com/products/shimapan-patch
>> No. 21214 [Edit]
>>21213
That patch could get you in trouble, if you live in a country where people are required to learn basic modern history.
Triangular badges and white-blue stripes are heavily associated with holocaust. How embarrassing.
Anyway that store looks like it caters to the worst kind- giggling permanewfag norms that browse 4chad and ironically meme about being total losers. Don't give them any money. They're making fun of you.
>> No. 21248 [Edit]
>>20851
I, to be honest, have no problem with murder. A world in which it is forbidden is strange to me, as we are killing creatures. Maybe I'm just primitive leftovers?
>> No. 21250 [Edit]
>>21248
Uh huh, well i'm glad random people aren't permitted to murder me.
>> No. 21254 [Edit]
>it was one way to spot out "waifriends" in public

why would i want to be spotted in public
>> No. 21280 [Edit]
I don't want a symbol, last thing I want is for us to become a LGBT offshoot.

Next we'll be calling each other "fictoromantic" or "fictosexual" or some bullshit
>> No. 21281 [Edit]
>>20008
The Sonnenrad is a great symbol, but yeah the thing in the middle is shit.
>> No. 21291 [Edit]
>>21287
Gesundheit
>> No. 21293 [Edit]
>>21287
You posted 3D. Get your ass banned.
>> No. 22003 [Edit]
>It's also one way to distinguish those that take waifuism serious from those who don't.
I don't feel like this flag in particular does a good job at signaling that. Panties, pantyshots and everything else related to panties is more of a joke among otaku, so I don't understand why one would choose a joke to symbolize, that you're serious about something. I also think it doesn't fit the topic, not only due to the previous point, but also because it's too sexual.

>I've learned that a concept is twice as powerful/sturdy when it has a name and symbol.
But what is this useful for? I don't see how people, who have waifus, somehow can be grouped together as people. Unlike religions, ideologies, countries, clubs and whatnot, we don't have a common goal in mind. I don't see any point in being 'twice as powerful'. To be frank, I don't even want a name for it. I just love my fictional character and I'm fine with leaving it at that without any strings attached like some ideology.
>> No. 22004 [Edit]
(correction sorry, it's Robert Carter on Aristotle, and then goes on to compare this philosophy to Nishida's which is the central focus)

Post edited on 4th Oct 2024, 11:46am
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