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1059 No. 1059 [Edit]
Do you guys believe in anything that might be called a conspiracy?
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I think a global Orwellian state is coming into existence
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>> No. 1060 [Edit]
I think US politics have been scripted like pro wrestling since Kennedy was killed to exert whatever they want onto the population.
>> No. 1061 [Edit]
Not the most conspiracy-est of theories, but I strongly believe the financial system (centralized FED, modern monetary theory, keynesian-esque economics) is purposely designed to be abstruse and hard to comprehend in order to keep the public in the dark and also slowly squeeze out their wealth.
>> No. 1062 [Edit]
>>1061
So basically traditional Chinese.
>> No. 1063 [Edit]
>>1061
I feel like that's a normal opinion to have. To those that remember, Ron Paul got young people excited about the prospect of auditing the FED.
>> No. 1064 [Edit]
>>1059
I think much of the warcrime history of WW2 was fabricated in order to justify the lengths that the allies went to in order to defeat the axis. For one thing, the Nanking massacres were never verified by U.S. troops or officials of any kind and all the reports came from the chinese government. For another thing, there's the whole business with the ohrdruf camp and how many "concentration camps" were sealed off from the public after the U.S. army secured them. I'm not suggesting they were never used as incarcerated labor camps, but I think the death of Patton has something to do with the german nuclear program. There's a lot of faulty pieces of the story like the german sub we found loaded up with 235U that disappeared from the ship the next night, the sudden uptick in 235U production, the way official historians aggressively attack any suggestions that the strategic bombings were inhumane. Simply put I think the allies freaked out about the possibility of an early atomic war and went to extreme lengths to make sure germany and japan never got their hands on an atomic bomb. Then they had to make something up afterwards to justify it to a world that might not agree with a proto-M.A.D. philosophy. Fascism, Nazism or whatever was never really a main target of the war, and I think the jews are a bit of a scapegoat for people to blame someone other than their own countries desire for survival.
>> No. 1065 [Edit]
>>1064
>Fascism, Nazism or whatever was never really a main target of the war, and I think the jews are a bit of a scapegoat for people to blame someone other than their own countries desire for survival.

I don't think any serous narrative assumes otherwise.
>> No. 1066 [Edit]
I think Google manipulates worldwide trends to push what they want.
I have a hard time believing Indians are searching google for minor US current events, I also think if Google was honest about their trends Indian things would also dominate, like English Wikipedia.
>> No. 1067 [Edit]
>>1066
Do you mean intentionally via human curators? It's more likely to be a side-effect of whatever recommendation system they use to optimize for revenue. In fact I don't think a lot of people even know that "google trends" exists so even if they intentionally did something it wouldn't be of much use.

I just took a look at google trends for india (https://trends.google.com/trends/trendingsearches/daily?geo=IN) and nothing looks out of the ordinary.
>> No. 1068 [Edit]
Not a conspiracy, but it's kind of funny how that Kennedy guy showed up, got made fun of for wearing too much lip balm and looking like he was drooling during a speech, and then disappeared. It's like I know for sure he did a tactical retreat to wait until everybody forgets, and sooner or later he'll try again and run for president or something.
>> No. 1069 [Edit]
>>1065
Are you really sure about that? I mean the whole jew thing goes both ways. The allies weren't fighting the war for the jews, and it's not like Nazi germany was doing anything radically different on the battlefield from other countries at the time including the U.S. I guess the worst thing they did was operation Barbarossa, and in that case it's not as if we gave a shit about the Soviet Union nor that things were any different on the other side, with the exception of perhaps the two English speaking countries. Keep in mind that in the entirety of the 19th and 20th century, those kinds of horrific ethnic conflicts were commonplace outside, again, (mysteriously perhaps) the U.S. and U.K.. I'm making no attempt to absolve Germany of their crimes as is often accused when people take a different perspective on the whole fantastical fairy tale of WW2. I'm sure they killed hundreds of thousands or millions of people in concentration camps and during the push to the east. I'm just positing the idea that within reason it was not unexpected, for any side in the war. Operation barbarossa was most likely much more military focused than claimed, just like the U.S.S.R. was never quite the horrific nightmare world that the west has asserted, and that the "western world" and NATO have never quite been the bastion of freedom and beauty that is held as truth albeit to a constantly diminishing degree.

I think reality is a lot more balanced than the stories we tell ourselves about the "good guys" and "bad guys" in a war.
>> No. 1070 [Edit]
>>1069
>the U.S.S.R. was never quite the horrific nightmare world that the west has asserted
Ummm, what? Do you not know what they did to people in agriculture during the revolution? Ever heard of the Nazino tragedy?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazino_tragedy

In the 80s and 90s, a lot of people still lived in villages, which didn't even have plumbing. In capital cities, they didn't have a frozen food section in their food stores. Forget about personal computers for average people. It fucking sucked.

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>> No. 1071 [Edit]
>>1070
Tangential but the USSR was a mathematical powerhouse. Tons of good stuff on applied mathematics (dynamical systems theory especially; and it's more of a party trick now with advances in numeric solvers but soviets were masters at solving ODE/PDEs and legends of their prowess remain to this day). Books from that era are top-notch.
>> No. 1072 [Edit]
>>1071
Yeah, and then most of the smart people moved once they got a chance because it sucked so bad.
>> No. 1073 [Edit]
The USSR looked more boring as hell for the average person than anything, I don't doubt it wasn't hell on earth, but I suppose you could read books all day when not working.
>> No. 1074 [Edit]
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Many more people are "conspiracy theorists" than would admit, because of the mockery people who believe in non-standard beliefs get from peers and journalists.
I think when used in a social or political manner, the NPC thing is evidence of this, they have already given up on the whole "wake up sheeple" thing. (Which became mocked because people didn't like having their instilled beliefs called into question).
>> No. 1075 [Edit]
I don't buy the official 911 story. I won't pretend to know what "really" happened, but it feels obvious that the story we've been told isn't the whole truth. There were rumors of people being warned ahead of time, evidence of beams being cut and explosives already planted, and that building that collapsed all on it's own like a controlled demolition.
>> No. 1076 [Edit]
>>1059
I'd say it's closer to Huxley than Orwell.
>> No. 1077 [Edit]
>>1075
What most people don't know is that the twin towers were built cheaply and poorly, which is typical for new york. People think that because it was important it must have been built like a fortress. No, it sucked. Beam cutting not required.

>>1073
Books were expensive and not too easy to come by, especially if they were in demand, unless you knew somebody who worked at a library, which wasn't that accessible to the public. The selection was also obviously more limited than outside the iron curtain because of censorship.
>> No. 1078 [Edit]
>>1077
From what I've heard, it was very far from important by the end of it's life. It was apparently full of empty office spaces that no one wanted to lease. If left alone it probably would have been demolished sooner or later anyway. Not exactly a great target for an attack, but expendable enough as sacrifice for later moves.
>> No. 1079 [Edit]
>>1069
Yes, usually they give German expansionism as the reason. The death camps were only discovered at the end of the war even according to the common narrative. And in the case of Britain and Australia they also freely admit that they were fighting for their own survival, in fact Australia exaggerated it.

I do agree with you about the good vs bad thing though, to an extent. There were rules of war and people tried to be civil so it was not like massacres and genocide were the norm(though they happened but usually not in Europe). As for Barbarossa, the army tired to hold itself accountable but the SS was the issue. Oh, and anti-partizan action itself is a problem, it's a bloody business where combatant and civilian become one in the same. A combatant who is not in uniform can legally be shot without trial and often the only way to clear an area of partisans is to burn down a village, it's not pleasant and the British fully knew that when they decided to arm and train Greek rebels.
>> No. 1080 [Edit]
Not the most political of theories but I think the Age of Empires remakes are anti-consumer scams meant to pray on casuals because everyone good plays the original.
>> No. 1081 [Edit]
>>1080
I feel like AOE2DE is worth it, and as far as I know, the best players have been moving to it.
>> No. 1092 [Edit]
There's a conspiracy theory that headphone manufacturers have silently released update that reduce the strength of the active noise canceling after they found that strong ANC has the potential to damage hearing. If you look online you can see a multitude of anecdotal reports of sony, bose, apple, etc. updates to their headphones where people claim that the ANC efficacy was reduced (and yet the companies deny it).

I'm not sure how true this is, but it seems plausible at least. The destructive interference of a wave has to be matched by constructive interference somewhere else for conservation of energy to work out. Even if the constructive part of the wavefront isn't audible, maybe it has an impact. Although a doubling of amplitude isn't really a significant jump in terms of decibels so unless you're trying to cancel out a jet engine this probably isn't too bad. The other alternative is that long-term use of noise canceling can cause changes in the brain's auditory processing (ANC changes the "neutral" frequency distribution by removing low-end. This is related to how some people feel a "pressure" when using ANC).

Either way an interesting conspiracy.
>> No. 1123 [Edit]
https://thewire.in/article/communalism/go-to-pakistan-indian-muslims
I have no sympathy for modern Indian Muslims, the animosity between Islamic amd Dharmic followers goes back to ancient times and is not going to be suddenly solved by debate or democracy. This was the only way.
Despite the unfortunate circumstances that happened, Muslims who knowingly stayed in India post-Pakistan are either not as serious about their faith as they would have you believe and use it as a political affliation more than anything or are simply agitators. Communists often push the blame onto them when terrorism happens so that may be something to consider as well.
This sounds very familiar to mainland Chinese communists trying to change opinion regarding their party by moving populations to Taiwan, dont you think?
>> No. 1384 [Edit]
Since the moment I came to conclusion that the phrase "conspiracy theory" was created to discredit all discussions of potential hidden plots and agendas, and that most people start associating the word "conspiracy" with some nutjob rambling, I started giving everything with the label attached at least a deeper consideration.

Some people are pulling the strings and the world politics are coordinated in some way. You can see who influential people meet with, maybe see some money flows. The politicians seem to use the same language, last phrase I heard was "build back better".

>>1061
It's just modern form of slavery.
>> No. 1386 [Edit]
>>1123
Why should they have had to leave their homes and the lands they have lived in for god knows how long? I don't agree that those that stayed can't be serious about there faith either. This is quite a simplistic view of things that you seem to have that fails to give even a passing glance to the thoughts and realities of those that are actually there.
>> No. 1387 [Edit]
>>1386
>Why should they have had to leave their homes and the lands they have lived in for god knows how long?
Because they're a bunch of assholes who choose to follow a violent, militaristic ideology.
>> No. 1388 [Edit]
>>1387
I'm not denying that but it doesn't factor into why they should themselves feel the need to leave or even have the ability to practically leave.

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