Self-induced schizophrenia isn't healthy.

>>33438
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>>33438
That has nothing to do with it.

>>33437
Tell us your experience first OP.

I'd so love if this or similar paranormal experiences were possible, but I see no way it could be achieved. Even by the means of induced hallucinations, those are by quasidefinition out of one's control, so it's most likely to be a nasty experience.

>>33440
It has everything to do with it because it's what it is.

>>33445
No it's not, do you even know what's schizophrenia? It's not just "listening voices in your head". I doubt you can't induce yourself schizophrenia unless you have an high predisposition for it.

>>33448
>Schizophrenia is a significant mental illness that causes someone to have an altered experience of reality

That's what Tulpas are.

Even if it is possible, what would the point be? The risks seem quite high, and the only potential "reward" is having someone to "converse" with. What makes conversation on boards interesting is the various viewpoints people have though, so wouldn't conversing with a tupla be necessary limited by the fact that you both physically possess the same bank of memories?

>>33449
Then any drugs, sleep deprivation or meditation cause schizophrenia?
It includes an altered perception of reality, that doesn't mean any altered perception of reality is "schizophrenia". It's a severe mental illness that requires genetic predisposition, not something you can induce yourself while "playing".

>>33454
There's no risk involved unless you're really afraid of your own mind. About having the same point of view, they don't unless you really want it that way. One of the most interesting points in the process is how they develop different lines of thought, to the point they can openly disagree with you.

>>33455
Well they have been linked to it yes, particularly drugs.

>>33458
I can only tell you to read about tulpa if you want to know about it. Relating it with schizophrenia is spook of the worst kind. Of all things you must not be afraid of your own mind, you can do amazing things with it.

>>33459
I've already read of it, it's what it is. You can try and sugar coat it all you like, the bottom line is that a tulpa is just a figment of your imagination.

>>33460
First you said it was induced schizophrenia now it's just a "figment of your imagination"?

Have you ever tried this? I feel like I'm just talking with whatever prejudices you have.

There was a recent article in nautilus about Tulpas: https://nautil.us/blog/can-you-treat-loneliness-by-creating-an-imaginary-friend

I don't think there's anything fundamentally impossible about it. It's basically a variant of the meditation practices/shamanic rituals of some cultures, and it fundamentally works because our consciousness isn't some sort of special thing but just an "illusion" generated by our brains. If the brain can generate consciousness once, it's not too hard (with some intense focusing) to get it to generate another. And things like dreams and traces can "tap" into the subconscious, bypassing some of the filtering that goes on in the generation of normal consciousness so Tulpas seem to occupy this fascinating and understudied realm.

That said I'm also a bit skeptical of just how many people claim to have created one. If you go on forums or threads it seems like there are boatloads of people who have done it, but I'd think it requires both a high level of control over your mind achieved through decades of meditation as well as a preexisting ability for visualization (some people have aphantasia or otherwise are not as good at visualizing/imagining and hence probably may never be able to).

>>37372
Once I was told having a tulpa and believing you have a tulpa are equal. Another different thing are induced hallucinations through really high level visualization skills, or even more incredible stuff like switching.
I suspect that could take really long time on proper and focused meditation, and most people couldn't even achieve it doesn't matter the effort. Though I'm convinced it's real since meditation can achieve even more unbelievable things, and not only subjective ones.

>>33437
Stop-motion is Tulpa?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdxVsIems2c

Related and interesting: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s12144-021-02439-3

I wonder how the lack of mind's eye (aphantasia) or variation in the nature of one's internal monologue influences the ability to do the above or create a tulpa. Also related to tulpas is the attention schema theory of consciousness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attention_schema_theory

>According to one proposal in AST, not only does the brain construct an attention schema to model its own state of attention, but it also uses the same mechanism to model other people's states of attention. In effect, just as we attribute awareness to ourselves, we also attribute it to others.

which would naturally explain how tulpas can arise.