No.

>>662
What a relief

greatest beastie boy

I occasionally listen to dadrock that was made by my dad.

Am I stupid If I fail to appreciate the brilliance of Bob Dylan music?

Not at all. Except I don't think my dad ever listened to Frank Zappa or ELP, so maybe that term doesn't apply for me.

I was thinking about the Beatles today, and why I have never been able to appreciate them. It started with a coworker mentioning how someone told him the Beatles were overrated, and when I shrugged he proceeded to describe how they've influenced "every rock band since". This got me to thinking that perhaps it is exactly that; they've been imitated by so many other musicians for so long, and I've heard facets of their sound in so many other bands that they now sound hopelessly generic to me, someone who only heard their music thirty years after the fact. I've the perception that most of the arguments for the Beatles's greatness hinge on their innovation and influence, which I of course will not even try to deny. But it's hard to tell if some people genuinely enjoy their music, or if they're just saying they do because they don't want to come off as an uncultured asshole.
Ah well. Forgive the tangent.

Anyways, there isn't a lot of dadrock that I like. I love Boston. Brad Delp had an awesome voice, that high note in More Than a Feeling (it's a G5 if I remember correctly) never fails to amaze me. Tom Scholz had quite the ear for memorable melodies and riffs as well.
I also like Dylan, primarily for the strength of his lyrics, but also because I like anyone with a unique voice.
I like Van Morrison as well, especially Astral Weeks.

>>1440
The Beatles' influence can't be exaggerated too much, that's for sure. Without them (and the Stones, and the Who, and Dylan, etc.) popular music might not have gotten out of the mire of shitty crooners and girl groups that got big for some fucking reason, after guys like Chuck Berry and Buddy Holly started the whole deal.

And I really like them. They're not my favorite band, and they wouldn't even place in my top five or ten or anything, but they have made some great, great albums and songs. Abbey Road and Let It Be along with a lot of their stuff maybe 1965 on is really really good. Even their stupid bubblegummy hits from the early days are nice.

I do think some of their music is overrated, though. Listened to Sgt. Pepper which is hailed as their best album, best of all time even, but it only has like three good songs on it. I think people were just smoking a lot of weed in 1967.

>>1441
>>1440
Who cares about The Beagles when you have The Bach Boys?

http://www.scaruffi.com/vol1/beatles.html
^Everything you need to know about the Beatles.

There's far suprior dadrock out there; The Velvet Underground, Comus, Captain Beefheart, Frank Zappa, Mountain, etc.

>>1586
I would agree with that, except it's Scaruffi, and he is a clueless idiot.

The Beatles were influential to a million (mostly mainstream rock/pop) bands, there's no denying that. They're nowhere near the best rock band, but they have some good songs. On the subject of "dadrock" I agree that there are many better bands out there. Dadrock is quite a vast term though. Are bands like W.A.S.P. be included?

>>1587
Sure, they had a huge influence on all sorts of bands, but I'd say they span a pretty wide range. King Crimson is one of my absolute favorites, and despite their non-mainstreamness (?) even they've got some very clear Beatles influence in some of their work. Considering the fact that the Beatles were one of the first bands to save everyone from the shitty schlock of early 60s crooner bullshit music like the Four Seasons, I think we all owe them a lot. Interesting that >>1586 brings the Beatles up, considering his name and the connection there.

I like a whole lot of their music, but I have to admit I don't listen to it a lot anymore. I don't know if I'd call my favorite bands "better" than the Beatles, but I do like them more. The problem is the Beatles' music is just so overexposed that I'm pretty much sick of it.

>>1594
My only real complains with the Beatles are that they're given way too much credit for stuff they didn't do.

Example: "The Beatles practically invented Punk and Metal! Helter Skelter was released in 1968, bro."
When in reality if you had to say anyone "invented" Punk, it'd probably be the Sonics in 1964.

Just stuff like that. They're no doubt a great band, at least in my mind, but that's all they were: a band.

Pretty cool that you'd recognize/point out the Pete Ham thing. Badfinger is less overrated in their supposed influence, which is good. I also find Pete Ham to be a better songwriter than Paul McCartney; "I Miss You", "Without You" or "Dennis" vs. "I've Just Seen a Face", etc. - McCartney's songs just don't stand up to them (in my opinion, of course).

It wouldn't be too much of a stretch to call Badfinger my favorite band, for what reason I dunno. I have no idea why they're my favorite, but they just "do it" for me, I guess.

I kind of hate the Beatles for temporarily ruining rock 'n' roll. It took the likes of the Rolling Stones and the MC5 to put some danger back into it.

>>1596
>MC5
I've always preferred The Move, but Kick Out the Jams and High Time are definitely great LPs.

Also, ever heard of The Royal Trux? Band from the 90's that essentially took all the noisiness/dissonance of all those hard-psych bands and magnified it times a billion.

Here.

>>1595
>My only real complains with the Beatles are that they're given way too much credit for stuff they didn't do.
Yes, this. I've even had people tell me that they "invented" the concept album.

Funny that this discussion has popped back up, as I posted >>1440, then forgot about this for a while, and then a couple of weeks ago tried listening to some Beatles again after a guy played the Let It Be album at work. I still don't hear whatever it is that everyone else hears. Oh, but they've influenced EVERY BAND that's come after them. Whatever.
Back to the broader subject of dadrock, I'm surprised no one's mentioned Neil Young. He has some songs that I really love, but I've only made it through a fraction of his discography. And I'm normally not much of a fan of lenghty guitar solos, but his leads are just so ragged and emotive.

>>1597
What I've heard of Royal Trux doesn't really do anything for me. Thanks though.

Speaking of psych, ever hear of the Japanese band Les Rallizes Denudes? They shared the early MC5's belief in "total cultural assault".

>>1599
Yeah, I actually have their LP "Mizutani". Not one of my absolute favorites but still really good.