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2006 No. 2006 [Edit]
Who's the worst touhou?
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>> No. 2015 [Edit]
>>2006
For me, Seiga. Unlikable character, boring boss fight, and even a lame theme.
>> No. 2035 [Edit]
Most touhou at bare minimum are cute or aesthetically pleasing to some degree, but clownpiss doesn't even have that going for her and looks fucking retarded. She's easily the worst touhou ever.
>> No. 2036 [Edit]
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>>2035
I think she sends the biggest message, some type of postmodernism vibe.

She reminds me of Anzu from [email protected]
>> No. 2037 [Edit]
>>2036
That America is a big joke and run by a bunch of clowns?
>> No. 2038 [Edit]
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>>2037
i think she says a lot about the fans too.
>> No. 2039 [Edit]
>>2035
Well that was a terrible argument. Objectively, she's without a doubt one of most aesthetically pleasing characters ZUN has ever drawn in terms of quality and anatomy. If you don't like her because you're salty about the American motifs, you can just say so.
>> No. 2040 [Edit]
>>2039
Quality and anatomy maybe, but she's wearing little more than long johns with an asymmetrical pattern and a ridiculous hat that doesn't match said outfit.
That pattern might work for a flag but it doesn't for clothing. Unless specifically done so for a political purposes there's no good reason to dress like that. Something like the union jack in comparison works better because of the symmetrical nature of the design along with the large areas of solid colors.

If you had to base an outfit around the American flag there's much better ways to do it. What Zun did with clownpiece was the most lazy possible way to create an outfit possible. If you took the naked figure of a character, placed a stock image of a flag on top of it, then deleted the area outside of the silhouette and cut off the area for the head and arms you'd have the same basic character design with maybe four minutes of work. It's not the American motifs that are the problem nearly as much as it's how they're implemented.

The best way to implement American motifs into an outfit would be to primary focus on the colors rather than the pattern. you can make really well designed outfits using just red white and blue. Just off the top of my head you can have something with white thigh highs, a red dress, and a blue coat. To take that a step further you can go with striped socks(on both legs) and maybe a jacket with the stars on it. There's many directions you can go in if you get creative, which in this case Zun did not care enough to.
Even Doremy Sweet's outfit design looks like something someone at least 'tried' with, even if they tried while clearly being drunk.
>> No. 2041 [Edit]
>>2040
Fair enough, I can see your points. ZUN's implementation of the American motifs into her nonspell attacks and 2nd spellcard were certainly done more elegantly than her outfit. And she does have a ridiculous name, whether or not it was intended to be a parody.
>> No. 2097 [Edit]
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You're all just upset because of your 2420 failed attempts at False Apollo.
>> No. 2098 [Edit]
Clownpiece has a great design. She's really, really cute, I'd say she's the best-designed character in LoLK.

Hecatia, on the other hand, has a design that I can't really get past. It's just so awful. She looks and seems like a weird fanfiction character.
>> No. 2105 [Edit]
I'll get murdered here for saying this but probably Flandre just because of how the fanbase characterizes her. She is not a cute loli who will call you onii-chan and sit on your lap. She is a sociopathic centuries-old vampire who's been isolated from the world outside the scarlet mansion and she will suck your blood and not in a sexy way.
>> No. 2108 [Edit]
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Yoshika. Literally no personality, and that's her whole concept. Also easily the most boring boss fights. Constant spam of ugly and idiotic projectile over and over. She also eats to recover health and gets respawned so she can spam even more. ZUN made her intentionally unlikable so that Seiga would seem really wicked for creating and liking her. Yoshika also gets way too much screen time especially for a shit character, making her even more irritating.
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>>2108
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4UcxLhfmL-A
yoshiaki has one of the best themes in td though.

>>2105
you do make a good point, flandre isn't intended to be this moeblob vampire loli, but she also isn't intended to be a figure of wanton destruction with intense psychological issues. the moeblob depiction comes up because she is a reclusive loli vampire, and those are huge moe elements.

i don't know where people get this image of flandre as a bloodthirsty maniac though.

she just has an incredibly strong power (as shown in BAiJR), and remilia can't rely on her socially weird, bed-wetting little sister to be responsible enough to control what seems to be pretty close to Gensokyo's equivalent to Mystic Eyes of Death Perception.

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