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9259 No. 9259 [Edit]
In this thread, we discuss and point out regular cliches and common occurrences found in anime.
a example would be the well known protag seat, but there are many out there, some more obvious than others.

Just to start things off, this is one I've been seeing a lot of.
Characters who fail to notice obvious things directly in front of them, often times needing someone to point it out for them.
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unimportant background characters rarely get colorful hair.
>> No. 9263 [Edit]
High school settings
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People spontaneously falling asleep during conversations, usually when someone is about to say something important.

It's like Japanese people all have a very convenient form of narcolepsy.
>> No. 9269 [Edit]
Classrooms always have 2-B or 2-C has the room number.
>> No. 9324 [Edit]
A lot of dramas seemed forced, from the beginning to the end.

Too many protagonists are very generic or are losers.
>> No. 9386 [Edit]
>>9259
It's like an audio drama.. unless someone states it, it didn't happen.

Also I notice that anime seiyuus speak slowly.
>> No. 9389 [Edit]
>>9386
really? I find dialogue is always very rushed in anime.
>> No. 9423 [Edit]
Normal people suddenly becoming physic for a split second, just long enough to know someone they care about far away is in danger at that very moment.
>> No. 9435 [Edit]
I hate when a show sets up fanservice by knocking the MC on top of a female character, and then the female character kicks him off while calling him a pervert. Now that I think about, a lot of fanservice setups are horribly cliched.

Or maybe its just me not liking fanservice.
>> No. 9436 [Edit]
>>9435
I'm pretty sick of it myself also. like guys who don't know how to knock, walking in on naked girls who don't know how to lock, the door.
but what really bugs me is when the girl falls on the guy, and still has the nerve to call him the pervert, even though she's pining him to the ground.
Just once I'd like to see a girl fall on a guy, while his boxers get shown to her a little, and he yells something like 'SLUT' or 'WHORE', smacks her off then runs away crying, while people ignore that it was an obvious accident and give her shit for being a slut, maybe threaten to call the police of something on her while she sneaks away in shame.
(you know, like how it always is, with the roles reversed.)
>> No. 9437 [Edit]
>>9436
Oh man, that kind of stuff pisses me off so much. I remember when in Motto To Love Ru when Nana and Momo ran away to find Lala, but just decide to take a bath instead of telling anyone that they arrived. Then then when Yuki opens the door to the bathroom when he knows the location of every other person in the house, he is a pervert for seeing the twins who broke and entered into his house to bathe. In retrospect, I have no idea why I watched any of To Love Ru, it was just fanservice the show.

I didn't mind all the fanservice in Bakemonogatari for some reason though.

I would love to see a satire of Anime that took cliches and turned them on their head in a deadpan manner. Too bad every satire of Anime is way over the top and made by westerners who haven't the slightest idea about the actual content of Japanese animation.

Post edited on 20th Apr 2012, 12:17am
>> No. 9438 [Edit]
>>9437
>I would love to see a satire of Anime that took cliches and turned them on their head in a deadpan manner.
Same
>> No. 9439 [Edit]
There was some anime where the guy pinned the girl by accident, then another girl went in and he was trying his best to explain the situation. The girl just said 'I know, you fell on top of her her by accident just before I came in, right?'. I don't remember what anime it's from. I bet it was used in multiple shows, too. This scene is the protag seat of harem/fanservice/romcom anime.
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>>9439

School Rumble has a scene like that as well.

And then there's the portrayal of homosexuality in anime, which is either goes the route of boku no pico or HARDO GAY.
>> No. 9442 [Edit]
>>9440
Side note: Macademi Wasshoi is fucking great.
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>>9442

Yeah it was pretty awesome.
Kinda sucks how it just went under the radar.

I blame Toradora.
>> No. 9447 [Edit]
Impossible/improbable living situations and lack of adults.

Makes it so much easier for the MC to score with girls.
>> No. 9470 [Edit]
Guns all have loose parts that rattle around whenever the gun is moved.
>> No. 9480 [Edit]
>>9470
To be fair, this seems strangely common in western films and animation too.
>> No. 9487 [Edit]
Everybody in Japan is deaf and everybody hates repeating what they said (in all honesty what they say is usually meaningless but that's just anime dialogues for you).

'What did you say?' 'No, it's nothing'. Every single time.

Also so-called Disney deaths. Pisses me off so much.
>> No. 9505 [Edit]
>>9487

I find that odd, becuase so very often characters continue conversations while driving or flying away or whatever, well out of ear shot.
>> No. 9521 [Edit]
Everyone becomes dense as a black hole when someone is romantically interested in them.
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Final bosses that bash the hell out of the hero and loses when the hero does ONE move.
>> No. 9572 [Edit]
Dudes who wake up in hospital beds have a tendency to rip off any attached medical devices while ignoring their injury and trying to leave.
>> No. 9573 [Edit]
People are always getting grazed by bullets or swords on their cheek, usually their left cheek. leaving a very tiny cut that drips exactly one drop of blood every time.
>> No. 9678 [Edit]
Overuse of sound effects in general for things that really don't need them, not limited to just moving guns.
For instance, people don't make stomping sounds when walking on carpets barefoot, or don't always necessarily make loud slapping sounds when just shaking hands or placing a hand on some one's shoulder.
For that matter, they seem to ignore in a lot of anime the fact that footsteps change in sound when the surface being walked on chances.

This is while ambient sounds are often neglected.
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Almost everyone is a terrible or reckless driver, which results in car related accidents being the most common cause of injury or death in anime.

Post edited on 28th May 2012, 11:54am
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Male protagonists are kind-hearted but wimpy... it's not like they had their carnal desires blocked or anything like that
>> No. 9843 [Edit]
>>9793
in some countries auto accidents are responsible for a lot of deaths. In the US it's one of the higher causes. More likely to die in a car accident than a shooting.
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A stern look is all it takes to scare away most low level thugs.
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Cute lolis who aren't really so cute once you get to know them.

Post edited on 3rd Jul 2012, 9:19pm
>> No. 10219 [Edit]
>>10216
C
>> No. 10221 [Edit]
When the MC does something like powering up or transforms, so everyone around him just stops what they're doing to be his audience and bask in his supposed awesomeness. The best part about having powers isn't having them, just showing everyone around me that I do.

The last anime I checked that had that, was Guilty Crown. It's why I dropped it after the first episode when he got that sword thing and everyone just looked at him. So lame.
>> No. 10226 [Edit]
>>10216
I found her to be a little cuter after that.
>> No. 10272 [Edit]
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When the MC has to fight 1v1 to determine the fate of the world... while the rest of the entire cast sits and watches (like it's a boxing match or something).

Surely they could be doing something to ensure victory apart form standing there with their mouths open.
>> No. 10276 [Edit]
>>10226
oh hey! hows bizarro world? I'm guessing it's really cold this time of year?
>> No. 10290 [Edit]
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Current anime trend: there's got to be someone in a maid outfit in the show.
>> No. 10299 [Edit]
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>>10272

Useless people on the sidelines are incapable of helping the great and powerful MC-dai-denka-sama in his time of need, they would only get in his way or be used as targets for the other guy that he would have to go out of his way to protect.
>> No. 10322 [Edit]
Other characters narrating during fight scenes. In some cases the main purpose of the character is to narrate fights (e.g that laptop guy from beyblades)

Someone winning against a vastly smarter, stronger, more skilled enemy solely because they 'never give up' or because they 'have heart'
>> No. 10330 [Edit]
Featured school clubs always have the bare minimum required amount of members.
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I have a particular pet peeve of the fans of a popular series. Most fans don't realise that Pokémon (ポケモン) is the japanese short form for "Pocket Monsters".
>> No. 10420 [Edit]
>>10371
But most fans of Pokemon are children and normals who care nothing of Japan or the background of the game they're playing.
>> No. 10421 [Edit]
>>10420
Don't you mean were children? or are you counting manchildren?
>> No. 10424 [Edit]
Main characters almost never defend their actions when it's called into question, they'll just take any and all criticism or abuse regardless of whether or not they're in the right.
>> No. 10425 [Edit]
>>10421
No, I meant actual children.
>> No. 10526 [Edit]
Female teachers are always single and self-conscious about it.
>> No. 10683 [Edit]
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>>10526
That's because no one wants christmas cake.
http://japanqna.wordpress.com/2007/12/20/christmas-cake-and-japanese-women/
>> No. 10684 [Edit]
>>10683
But I like Christmas Cake.
>> No. 10686 [Edit]
 
Anime OPs or EDs with flying naked people, naked people who have missing nipples and genitalia.

For that matter, everything else in this video as well.
>> No. 10689 [Edit]
>>10683
So Konata was right.
>> No. 10695 [Edit]
Saving the world.
Impossibly talented (or lucky) heroes, who can immediately achieve the most difficult things.
>> No. 10706 [Edit]
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How about this?
>> No. 10707 [Edit]
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>>10706
>> No. 10711 [Edit]
>>10707
everything makes sense now
>> No. 10716 [Edit]
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10716
Regardless of genre, there is always a character with big tits.
>> No. 10725 [Edit]
>>10706

These were always trying-too-hard for me. Not to mention this chart in particular is even worse than they usually are, I mean look at RKB!, there's no way Hinata was the tsukkomi character. What show were they even watching?
>> No. 10729 [Edit]
Somehow I didn't manage to post in this thread so far. It's just that I remember something while watching anime and by the time I see the thread again I forget what I wanted to write.

My number one pet peeve is... I have forgotten yet again. And it won't come to me for a while probably.

'Sickly' characters is something that always annoyed me. Not because of how overdone they are because that's obvious, it's a work of fiction. It's the fact that their illnesses are never explained, never named. They just have weak bodies and every now and then they die because of it. Do their write that on death certificates? 'Her body was weak?'
I mean seriously, make up something, everything works. Saying 'she suffers from leukemia' is always better than 'she suffers from having a weak body' even if the symptoms are all over the place.

The other thing is the fact that everybody's voices carry for kilometers. They run off and are still able to read 20 lines of dialogue because why not. Again, it's not like I don't see why it's done, it's just that it is retarded.
>> No. 10734 [Edit]
>>10729

This has always annoyed me as well. Rarely do they elaborate on any illnesses.
>> No. 10735 [Edit]
>>10725
look again, Hinata is in the moe though helplessness category, Tomoka is in the tsukkomi slot.
>> No. 10737 [Edit]
>>10735

Damn, confused the names, it's been a year already. Still, my point stands, Saki was more of a tsukkomi than Tomoka could ever hope to be. Not to mention Tomoka was a way better fit for the 'seemingly perfect' category.
>> No. 10744 [Edit]
School clubs that run the risk of closure, until someone saves the day.
>> No. 10748 [Edit]
There's no such thing as language barrier. Japanese people can travel all over the world and talk with everyone without even trying.
Same goes for fantasy settings. Everybody speaks fluent Japanese and Japanese only. Even if there are multiple races. Scifi, fantasy, retro-futurism... Doesn't matter. Everyone can talk with everybody.

Same goes for customs barrier. Everybody bows and whatnot no matter if they are in Japan, USA or somewhere in Europe. Or not even that. Again, same goes for scifi/fantasy settings. I can live with some phrases typical for Japanese language like yoroshiku or otsukare but seeing foreigners bow when they apologize is a bit too much.

There's at least one character who speaks in kansai-ben because a fourth of Tokyo's population is made of people from Kansai who never really realized it's possible to speak standard Japanese. Heck, it's not only Tokyo. It's not even only Japan. In Erin (a fanatasy setting and it's not one of those 'Japanese high schooler gets sent there to save the world for no apparent reason' series) there is a girl who speaks kansai-ben either way because why not, who cares if there's no such thing as Kansai or even Japan there.

Of course, kansai-ben is the only dialect in Japan. As far as anime is concerned no other dialects exist.

Dialogue in anime is awful in the first place so it's no use complaining about it but here goes anyway.
There's a clear speaking order. After one person says something (without ever getting interrupted by anyone) everybody knows who's the next person who will say something. I guess it's kinda unfair to blame anime for it, the same goes for 3D movies (and all sorts of other media), too.

What I CAN blame anime for is the 'everybody else shuts the FUCK up as soon as someone raises their voice' sequence. If you want everyone to stop talking and listen to you you just have to shout. Even if you are arguing with someone you just have to shout and he/she will automatically stop talking to listen to your infinite wisdom.

Etc. etc. etc.
>> No. 10755 [Edit]
>>10748
>Japanese people can travel all over the world and talk with everyone without even trying.
The K-ON movie begs to differ.
Also, most fantasy settings have a "common tongue" which is spoken world or galaxy-wide. It's still stupid, but they usually explain it at least.
>> No. 10757 [Edit]
>>10755
Anyone can come up with one or two examples to counter anything in this thread.
such as the aliens in macross, they spoke their own language, but I still think what the guy said still holds true overall.
>> No. 10759 [Edit]
In shows with all or mostly male characters, they're all gay. In shows with all or female characters, they're all lesbians.
>> No. 10795 [Edit]
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>>10729

Pic related.

- running away when somebody says something that hurts the other person. I don't think you'd run away in that kind of situation normally.
- the other party never chases the person who ran away. It's always '[CHARACTER]-SAN!' and then nothing. Obviously he/she won't really stop just because you called his/her name so either chase him/her or just shut up altogether and let him/her go.
>> No. 10827 [Edit]
Villains who get portayed in a sympathetic light towards the end of the story. And I mean actual psychotic murderers who should die the most painful death the person who is going to kill them could possibly come up with. 'I-it's not like he blackmailed tons of people and forced them to do all sorts of shit/murdered countless others/destoryed countless innocent people's lives because he just felt like it, he's actually a good guy deep inside!'

Defeat means friendship as whole. Antagonists in shounen manga which are introduced solely to get defeated and join protagonist's team later on. Fucking. Stupid.

When someone is hurt and their clothes get torn but they aren't even wounded. It's like their skin is made of titanium or something. Clothes which are made out of indestructible substances are stupid, too. 'Walk out of a building set on fire, shake off some soot, walk away.' Makes sense.

That scene when people point guns at each other at point blank range and stop there. They won't ever shoot. WHY. I honestly mean it, WHY. I'd like to see a series when somebody pulls the trigger in that kind of situation at least why. Black Lagoon poked fun at 'talking is a free action' scenarios at least two times, why not make fun of this, too.
>> No. 10918 [Edit]
>>10827
>That scene when people point guns at each other at point blank range and stop there.
My guess is they're worried the other person will shoot once they see the other pulling the trigger, ending in both getting killed, or something like that. I really have no clue, that's just my guess.
>> No. 10920 [Edit]
Foreigners tend to be kinda short in anime. When a foreigner visits Japan the height difference is usually not too big (if there is one in the first place) and when someone from Japan visits some country everyone is roughly as tall as he/she is.

What I'm sick of by now is characters with glasses who drop their glasses, get down on their knees and flail their arms around in hopes of fiding something muttering 'meganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemeganemegane'. Everything about it is stupid and it's so overdone it's not even funny.
>> No. 10921 [Edit]
Parents are one of the following:
a) Completely absent an irrelevant. Their child lives a life as if it lives by itself.
b) Single and/or alcoholics. In this case the child can cook like a chef.
c) Really cool and extremely nice people who would never embarrass their child.

Also, many characters don't even have a computer in their room, even in modern anime.
>> No. 10926 [Edit]
>The school club was disbanded because all their members graduated last year. You have to find at least 5 members before you can restart.
This can take anywhere from 3-6 episodes.
>> No. 11009 [Edit]
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Japan has almost no police force, outside of the select few officers that are lucky enough to be used as the butt of jokes (usually pertaining to hauling off lolicons), or as cannon fodder for whatever monster.
>> No. 11010 [Edit]
When anime girl loses her glasses, she closes her eyes.
>> No. 11013 [Edit]
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Male sidekicks/wingmen are usually a bit gay.
>> No. 11014 [Edit]
>>11013
what are you talking about? They're always hopelessly obsessed with women.
>> No. 11015 [Edit]
>>11014
It's an act to cover up how gay they are
>> No. 11016 [Edit]
>>11015
I have not noticed anything that would indicate homosexuality in that character type, what gives you that impression?
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>>11014
I didn't say they are gay. I said they are a bit gay.
>> No. 11019 [Edit]
>>11017
>>11015
I have not noticed anything that would indicate 'a bit' of homosexuality in that character type, what gives you that impression?
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>>10729
>>10734
>>10795

RIP Toki
>> No. 11127 [Edit]
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Half-assed disguises that somehow fool everyone.
>> No. 11138 [Edit]
>>11019
Going by that Sunohara image, I believe he means effeminate rather than homosexual.
>> No. 11168 [Edit]
>>11127
It works for Superman...
>> No. 11173 [Edit]
>>11127

It's funny because the identity of sailor scouts/soldiers from Sailor Moon is absolutely top secret. Looks like chaning your clothes is enough to absolutely fool everybody in 2D world.
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>>10290

One can never have too many maids.
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>>10725
better?
>> No. 11204 [Edit]
>>11201

Better - yes, good - not really. Lots of these are still completely forced and plain don't work. Sigh, let's go series by series.

Lucky Star - okay, mostly because it might be the first series that people tried to clasify in this way (along with Azumanga, Mashimaro and maybe Hidamari, I think that's what these charts used to look like when I first saw them)

Even then we've got the first problem already. All characters that get classified as boke could be clasified as the genki girl at the same time. The thing is all characters in the 'moe through helplessness' group are comparatevily more boke than real bokes. Who is more boke between Matsuri and Miu and between Tomo and Osaka? Characters from the first group tend to be just stupid. When you look at 'moe through helplessness' characters you sometimes have to question whether they were born on planet Earth.
Now, if you were rename those groups you'd end up with 'genki boke' and 'stoner boke'. You'd have those two and tsukkomi. Guess what, you classified 3/4 characters based on their role in manzai routine. The differences between the characters themselves are still big.
It's almost as stupid as using only two groups (boke and tsukommi) and claiming every single show that ever had any comedy elements follows the same formula when it comes to creating characters.
If you were to look at their personalities only I'd say Sae and Sakaki are similar and so are Yuno and Chiyo. However their roles in the show (and positions on the chart) are completely different. Which is precisely why these charts are stupid.


Mashimaro - I can live with that
Hidamari - Sae isn't much of a tsukkomi
Azumanga - Sakaki would be a better fit for the 4th category
Clannad - never seen the anime, played a bit of the VN, I think that Mamiko Noto girl is a better fit for the third category; also KEY
Air - KEY, I hate KEY
Kannon - KEY, I hate KEY; note - no fucking point in classifying KEY series along with the rest of these, it's a completely different genre
Natsuiro - Rinko just doesn't fit. She's hardly 'helpless', she keeps taking care of Yuka all the time. Saki is more of a tsukkomi character than what's-her-name-again (Natsume?).
Accel World - haven't seen it
Yuru Yuri - can you fail any harder? Yui as anything but tsukkomi is the most retarded thing on the whole chart.
Milky Holmes - Elly as tsukkomi, come on.
Saki - not bad in all honesty. Classifying the second (? or not? I'm looking at you Sukoyan) biggest raptist in Japan as 'more through helplessness' and Hisa as 'perfect' is a bit off but I can live with that.
A-Channel - I didn't think the baseball bat girl was much of a boke but the rest works.
Tamayura - backlogged for all eternity
Nichijou - haven't seen it
RoKyuBu - okay, works now
>> No. 11448 [Edit]
>>11173

Part of their magic is making it so no one recognizes them while transformed.
>> No. 11449 [Edit]
>>11448
so what do they need the costumes for?
>> No. 11873 [Edit]
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Girls with Blue hair named aoi.
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Camera zooming waaaaay out as someone screams.
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School admission fees and entrance exams are a none issue for people who aren't of Japanese nationality or even have any documented background history. In some cases such 'people' are even able to land teaching jobs.
>> No. 14502 [Edit]
Grunts, groans, moans, sighs, gasps, snorts, squeaks, growls, snarls, croaks, shrieks, whines and other nonsensical noises uttered whenever a character reacts to something - seemingly suffering from a constant loss of words, as well as only speaking whoever's name or a fitting pronoun.

The way these simple gestures carry the dialogue in anime so far is probably my number 1 pet peeve of anime cliches.
>> No. 14503 [Edit]
>>14498
This one always annoyed me so much.
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>>14502

what about sfx's for things that don't make sound in the first place?
jiiiiiiii~
>> No. 14510 [Edit]
>>14506
I think they're cute. They play such a big role in manga anyway.
>> No. 14511 [Edit]
Cutoff sentences, I...
>> No. 14516 [Edit]
Starting a scene by repeating what someone just said.
>> No. 14521 [Edit]
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Exaggerated reactions to how good food tastes, in many cases completely freaking out over how incredibly awesome it is.
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