The first half of the first ep was mind numbingly cliche. I swear to god it's almost like some parody at this point every time they do that scene with a girl swiming naked, guy jumps in to save her, turns out to be unnecessary. Add in guy "accidentally" playing with girl's underwear, someone falling or jumping on another character in a sexually suggestive position, and nude girl who's cool with it while guy freaks out. Is there a check list of required cliche anime creators are required to included a minimum of or something?

When does the flip flaping start?

>>30440
She needs Papika for that.

That character's death might have worked better if she didn't leave like she was about to die anyway.

>>30446
And even though her blood is completely on his hands, after ep4(maybe 3) he will have completely forgotten all about her now that he landed a much hotter chick to partner up with.

>>30446
I legitimately felt sorry for her. She didn't deserve any of that.

I've seen birds fly into windows a few times, never saw them leave a blood splatter and die soon after. Hell, I hit one with my car once and drove all the way home with it stuck to my bumper, not a drop of blood anywhere.

Is it just me or does anyone else think the mecha looks kind of dumb?

Ironic they call the characters parasites, because they all act like one.

Too much cliche.
They are just trying to make a new EVA/Gurren Laggan.

>>30459
It depends on the hit and what angle the animal lands on. If you were to jump 5 meters into the ground feet down, the amount of shed blood would be minimal; the same can't be said if you dive in and break your face on the fall.
>>30461
They look retarded as hell, even for Trigger standards.

>>30467
>>30461
I thought the alien monster thing looked pretty fucking cool as it first came out of the ground. ....then it came out fully with it's undersized torso and baby legs. I guess it's based on a t-rex, but it just looked stupid.

>>30470

I don't get it. Fans of Trigger are acting like this anime is some sort of horribly insulting degenerate garbage. Yet that same exact fanbase loved Kill la kill with it's nudest propaganda and characters dressed like dominatrices. The studio makes a lazbo version of Harry potter and suddenly everyone forgets the smut they made before.

Well there's always Viagra.

>>30490
lol

>>30489
>Fans of Trigger are acting like this anime is some sort of horribly insulting degenerate garbage. Yet that same exact fanbase loved Kill la kill with it's nudest propaganda and characters dressed like dominatrices.

For half of the fans that propaganda was too subtle in KLK for them to notice, and this show being very overt with sexual innuendo is a complete and total surprise.

The other half are mecha fanboys who are pissed off about a show that pokes fun at their beloved genre with the subtlety of a bull in an antique shop. Well, perhaps 'pokes fun' is a bit of an understatement, trigger really did give the folks expecting a hot blooded TTGL-type mecha story a middle finger.

>>30496
Ironic thing is Trigger fans loved them for giving a finger to western SJWs and not giving a shit what they thought. Then those fans get the finger too. ha!

Honestly, the only beginnings of any mecha anime I can think of that didn't feel really generic for mecha were probably Nadesico (that was handled by very very trope-heavy characters though) and FMP (mostly because mechs weren't involved for a while)...
But I'm still lost why Cocona is in this flipflap fanfic, but not Papika.

>>30498
Maybe Papika grew up (again) and got a lot sluttier this time?

>>30489
>Fans of Trigger are acting like
There is a vast difference between sexual innuendo and smut for the sake of exposing and idea (in case of KLK, idea being that fashion and its social element pushes you down under its foot, disabling you from being free) and for the sake of gratuity. It seems most people watching this feel so far these elements are the latter. If so, the alleged fans of Trigger aren't "acting", pretending or anything similar, unless you were referring to anyone who has enjoyed their anime so far solely because of popularity; but then we would be talking about normals and not otaku.
>>30496
>For half of the fans that propaganda
What propaganda?
> trigger really did give the folks expecting a hot blooded TTGL-type mecha story a middle finger.
Was that the overall perception from advertisement / marketing of this show? I ask hoping you're more knowledgeable about mecha fans, not being one myself per se.

>>30489
KLK didn't put a girl doggy style in front of a boy. It did a humorous take on nudity and fashion, sure, but it didn't play it straight or put any sort of roles on anyone, and there was a lot of push back from the protagonist and her struggles through it all.

DarliFra is just double entendre Evangelion if Mari was the main girl. It's not too imaginative, the animation isn't fluid (because it's not Yoshinari), the characters are uninteresting, and they play the whole doggy style thing straight. Essentially, it doesn't have any redeeming qualities yet, it's too serious, there is almost no investment in the story since the setting is currently vague and bland, and the only thing it has for it is "Oh you get to steer a girl's ass in this mech!" Take that out and it is unremarkable and depressing and confusing and has no adventure aspect to it. The only reason I am continuing is because it has a single, lone, only interesting character surrounded by blandness that would fit in with a SOL, not in a battle mech anime.

Basically, Kill la Kill was interesting and high energy. DarliFra is all the boring aspects of old Gainax.

>>30496
>>30507
>>30497
TTGL and Kill la Kill were Imaishi and Yoshinari, DarliFra is Nishigori. Huge difference. The conceptualization isn't Trigger for DarliFra, and they made this pretty well known that it would be mostly an A-1 thing. But Trigger fandom pretty much exists in a vaccuum, so they think everything is going to have the fluid imaginative animation a la TTGL, KLK, Space Patrol Luluco, LWA, etc. The fact is, people who call themselves Trigger fans are actually fans of specific people at Trigger (Yoh Yoshinari, Hiroyuki Imaishi, Sushio, Kengo Saito, Hiromi Wakabayashi) who aren't involved in all Trigger works, and I have noticed a trend where anything these people aren't a part of is panned as being uninteresting (Kiznaiver).

Trigger made it obvious that the thing that the TTGL/KLK crowd will love is going to be Promare, they never insinuated that DarliFra was going to be the next TTGL, and they are right, it's the next Kiznaiver.

tl;dr: is an anime good or bad because it's not over the top crazy
clearly anime made by a studio only favored by fans of that
can different people enjoy different things?
Is a crude sex joke objectively awful because you're a norm that can't take a joke?
もう安心していいよ! /an/ will decide for these people with labels while answering nothing.

>>30510
>because you're a norm
Stay classy TC.

>>30510
It's not serious enough either though. Frankly it's biggest sin is simply that it's boring. You can like whatever you want but somebody asked what makes it different from kill la kill and that's it.

>Is a crude sex joke objectively awful because you're a norm that can't take a joke?

For it to qualify as a "crude sex joke" it has to have a joke.

This is just kids in mechs sitting in suggestive positions. There's no joke.

>>30515
>This is just kids in mechs sitting in suggestive positions. There's no joke.
That's what the joke wants you to believe.

>>30516
Is this that Soviet humor I always hear about?

I am liking this show.

Who the heck thought anime eyes on the mecha looked good? It's like Hero Man all over again.

>>30527
Same person who thought high heels on a mecha was a good idea.

>>30527
It's very reminiscent of Super Robot, I like it

Somewhere some engineers were tasked with the job of creating weapons to defend the last desperate remnants of humanity from a relentless and powerful enemy. One can assume they have knowledge of all of humanity's greatest technology and weapons of war from the past. Attack helicopters and battle tanks, fighter jets and bombers, guided missiles, attack drones, rail guns, and nukes. So what do they create? High heeled wrestling robots with anime faces controlled by kids pretending to have sex.

...maybe they deserve to get wiped out.

Good girl

What's the point of keeping her at gunpoint? They want her alive right?

>>30721
I know right?

>>30721
Cute smile.

>>30725
I mean ideally.
You could asspull that they're tranquilizer guns.

>>30748
At first that's what I thought, but then she grabbed one and used it to shoot through a glass wall.

>>30750
Hi-penetrating tranq guns?

>>30767
That would penetrate a person, then.

They sure love re-using this totally not eva inspired shot, don't they?

>>30466
But unlike both of those, I don't hate the characters. So that's progress.

AAAAAAAAAAAH ZABENYAAAAAAAAA!! BAGITHI BABA!!

This fucking guy...

>>30951
I'm curious if he knew where the conversation was going and was purposefully trying to change the subject, or if he's just that fucking retarded.

>>30956
I assume he's not a retard and is trying to have a pleasant time without having to reciprocate her feelings like she wants him too.

Why jump to the conclusion they all died when it's more reasonable to assume they became adults and moved on, which is what they've been hoping would happen to themselves since forever.

>>30986
Probably because the room was sealed off. That made it fishy.

Let me get something straight here. The women so far have been forced to sit in humiliating poses in skin tight outfits with their asses waving in the face of male pilots without complaint. They're okay with these sexually suggestive positions and seem completely used to it, the guys too for that matter. But as soon as they show a bit of skin and the guys don't say anything, that's where they literally draw the line?

They do this, but they wont give the kids names?

>>31044
Animals don't give names to each other, but they can still feel the sense of reward.

>>31050
You consider their leaders to be animals too then?

https://animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2018-04-17/anime-producer-yuichi-fukushima-endures-harassment-over-darling-in-the-frankxx-episode/.130524

Did someone say Triggered?

;__;

I crammed in a few ep of this today to try and get up to date, and I still don't get the hate for ichigo. Is it because she's trying to break up what's obviously a toxic relationship? A massive whore that runs through men like nothing shows up one day to snatch up the guy she likes and she's supposed to just let it happen? This whore's clearly violent and unstable, and is literally killing this guy, and fans hate Ichigo for what, trying to stop this? Am I missing something here? What the fuck?

>>31182
I'm not watching this until it finishes airing, but from what I've gathered this is the old case of "Red Flag Defense" in which people rally behind the most popular character because or despite them being portrayed as an absolutely disgustingly behaved individual. Naturally the "best girl" will have its counterpart, which is to be hated unconditionally by these apparently vapid people.

>>31195
> despite them being portrayed as an absolutely disgustingly behaved individual
There seem to be a number of factors at play which makes me understand why someone might be on team 02. Not to get too much into spoilers here but she has a fucked up back story that can make a person feel sorry for her. I also assume people like her because she's wild crazy and "fun", compared to the other more boring and average characters.
I don't think any of that excuses any of her behavior. From the very start it's established she's dangerous and kills all of her partners one after another. She's arrogant and treats the rest of the team like they're beneath her and even beats them all up at one point. 02 is plainly psychopathic but I doubt horny 15 year old boys watching this can see past "dat ass" enough care. That's what I feel this boils down to. They don't know what toxic relationships are and can't see or understand that Ichigo has Hiro's best interests at heart. Up until ep14 02 only saw Hiro as a plaything, something to suck the life out of and discard once it's no longer useful. She even said as much while calling him fodder.

I have yet to watch a Trigger made anime, and from the way this looks that will be continuing for a while longer.

>>31200
Little witch wasn't bad. It was like a moe harry potter.

All this hate for Ichigo, and no one cares about fatty's feelings.

>>31202
It's no secret that Jappies hate the fatties.

>>31203
True. Guy tried his hardest for her, but not at lunch time.

Have these guys ever fallen out of the chairs?

>>31301
I'm more curious how they even get in them or why they're arranged like that.

>>31302
With some difficulty I'd imagine.

Would you recommend this show to someone who has lost faith in modern anime for the most part and hated Kiznaiver (one of Trigger's previous works)? I haven't seen any episodes yet but it seems to take a lot of inspiration from psychological mecha shows of the past like Eva and if done right I can imagine it could be fun but I have also seen a lot of criticism from people online, even those who are normally willing to defend anything.

>>31312
If you're not on the ride and seeking faith in anime, wait for the ending and the opinion on the series after that.

Also, by all indications, this isn't as much a Trigger anime as it is an A-1/Cloverworks anime with Trigger sprinkling.

>>31312
>I have also seen a lot of criticism from people online, even those who are normally willing to defend anything.
I don't want to get too much into spoilers, but the themes presenting themselves in the anime where it's at now are apparently considered offensive to some of the more deranged sjw types in the west. If people are getting offended by the messages this show is trying to get across, they're: A insane, B too stupid to understand anime is made -for japan- and tackles Japanese issues and they give zero fucks about American's retarded SJW bullshit, or C all of the above.
Meanwhile people were creating a shitfest a few weeks back while hating on one of the characters because they're too stupid to understand her motivation.
Then there were people who hated this show when it first came about because of the love it or hate it mecha designs and very controversial cockpit designs, on top of an extremely uninspired cliche first ep which I myself hated as well.
>like Eva
Well like eva it does deal with and explore teens in puberty struggling to understand their emotions and place in the world and so on. That much is tackled much better in eva, however that shouldn't be too surprising.

>>31313
>Also, by all indications, this isn't as much a Trigger anime as it is an A-1/Cloverworks anime with Trigger sprinkling.
I despise A-1 so that is useful information.
>>31314
>the themes presenting themselves in the anime where it's at now are apparently considered offensive to some of the more deranged sjw types in the west
That sounds very interesting. I only know so far that the mecha piloting in the show is supposed to be a methaphor for sex which sounded like something that SJW types would love since they are so oversexualised and obsessed with stuff like gender. Based your statement I can imagine this means that the show is about how sex at a young age negatively affects the mental health of teenagers which does sound like something they would hate.
I may be completely wrong on this but I actualy thought that Trigger was interested in catering to western SJWs, with one of the head directors saying he watches Steven Universe and the LWA tv show having certain themes that hinted at it like an episode about an artist being "cyberbullied" by trolls on an imageboard, vague implications of a nationalist conflict and almost all (human) males being portrayed as evil while women are in contrast the saviours of the planet.

Sorry about getting all political but those were just some observations of mine. I honestly don't mind spoilers because with shows like these I often have a better idea of if the entire thing will be worth my time if I knew more indepth what happens in it.

>>31315

Based your statement I can imagine this means that the show is about how sex at a young age negatively affects the mental health of teenagers which does sound like something they would hate.

Nah, see you're thinking of this from the mind frame of someone in the west with western problems on your mind. It's closer to the complete opposite. You've got to remember japan is having problems with birth rates and getting people to do the deed and form families and all that stuff. The messages here are more about how reproduction is natural, why we have genders, and how humans much like all animals have survived as long as they have by doing it. This is something that can and is being considered offensive by homosexuals, "gender fluid", and "non-binary" wack jobs in the west, many of who will never reproduce because of their life choices.

>>31316
Even if that is the message of the show, the idea that Japan is having trouble with its birth rate is retarded. It may be so that there are not enough Japanese people being born to support the economy, but for the most part it would be a good thing if birthrates dropped. They're having trouble even finding space for building new houses, families of five people are forced to live in apartements that in the west would be made for one person. If the birthrate would increase even more then Japan would have an overpopulation issue as major as that of China.
Homosexuals and genderfreaks are also a western issue. It's not that men in Japan refuse to have children because they are all faggots, it's just that they are intelligent enough to understand that marriage in the modern age is a scam that ruins the lives of men and rewards women for divorce. There's also the fact that most Japanese companies force their employees to overwork making it so that even people who want to have children can't because they don't even have time to come home, let alone time for finding a potential partner.

>>31313
It's okay. I'm not following it as much as I am watching it when I have nothing else I want to do. It's watchable but I'll probably just rewatch some classic mecha instead of this in most cases. It's quite generic and leans a bit hard on the obvious sexual tones while for me, I really love a good bit of genuine teamwork be it hot blooded or not and the chemistry isn't there with the way they've done it despite having the great opportunity of multicrew, especially when you compare it to some of the great multicrew elements in something like Eureka Seven which had problems but the team felt a lot more cohesive and didn't need to lean on cockpit poses. I can put up with a lot of mediocre for good mechanical design too, but the designs for me were a definite miss.

That's this guy's perspective anyway. Your mileage may vary.

They have an ep about the reason for genders, their rolls, marriage, and old fashion reproduction that pisses off all the nutjobs in the west... Then the next ep hits and a character comes out the closet. These guys...

>>31360
Maybe they just don't care about the Western political standard.

>>31363
They really don't, I just think it's funny.

This show ended up taking an, interesting, direction..

>>31465
Are you sure that what it has taken is a direction?

>>31466
If you're saying the anime felt like it was lacking in direction, you're not exactly wrong.