>>28038

That really depends on where you look and what groups you associate with.

There are few anime referenced as often as Evangellion, even today.
The ikari gendo pose is stupidly common.

>How quick people are to forget.
20 years is far from "quick". I love Evangelion, it's legitimately my favorite anime. But maybe if Rebuild 4 wasn't vaporware they'd have less issues with 'falling into obscurity' (even though people are still shitting out fanworks etc.). Most anime that are good in some way have even a cult following or find themselves on "top 10" lists all over the internet. Lain being an example.

Shit like Saber Marionette J is an example of something that has fallen into obscurity. Who the fuck still talks about Saber Marionette J? Maybe 3 people at most.

>>28044
I like saber marionette j ;v;

>>28045
I don't hate it ("shit" was used as a general term, not a pejorative if that makes sense) but it's just not discussed a lot. It's discussed far less than Evangelion for sure.

>>28038
>How quick people are to forget
I don't know that online places you frequent besides this one, but Evangelion (and many other not-current-year) series have constant talk, even more so in active image boards (than say, specific community forums). I think the rule of thumb is very simple in this case: If it ever was massively popular, then it will retain that popularity forever; you can still find occasional discussion on ever older series like Lupin and even ancient stuff like Mazinger. Series like "Saber Marionette" stopped being go-to topics after moe anime became commonplace, same with others like "Oh! My Goddess".

What's up with the /b/-tier replies though?

>>28038
>I truly can not remember the last time I saw anyone so much as mention evangelion

Is... is this a serious post? It gets mentioned and referenced so incredibly frequently that I've grown outright sick of anything to do with it, despite loving it during its original run.

>>28057
>What's up with the /b/-tier replies though?
Wow, I just gave my opinion. I think you need to chill, there's no reason for that kind of talk.

Saber Marionette and OMG are still quintessential. I mean, Saber Marionette even discusses moe instead of just having it there, and OMG is definitely a high point and a tie-in to other nerdy and intellectual shit that correlates with liking moe. Maybe it's that people who consume moe are quickly bored, and the best works aren't discussed at the expense of newer ones. Look at us, we have an active thread for fucking Tooru the Magic Dragon Maid, but threads with topics are either inactive or stupid.

Then again, in person things are different. The common ground everyone shares is usually the classics (at least from mid-nineties onward) and it's easy to dive into an in-depth conversation of these works. I guess you can't really go "exactly! and even more, it's like this and that, too" here when you have to wait days for a response, if you get any. Do we even have a population of active and good conversants here? At least three or four are required to get anything going.

I didn't see K-on as interesting to begin with. The girls are cute but... I guess it ultimately lacked the depth of, say, Azumanga or Lucky Star. Speaking of Asumanga, do you guys remember Masamune Shirow? That guy put out some lasting masterpieces. Depth everywhere you step to the extent that reading his works is like walking in a swamp, at least until the third or fourth time. The latest anime with substance I remember was Cross Ange, and that was terribly articulated. Anime like that will be easily forgotten since nobody even picked it up when it aired. Kill la Kill is the latest really good anime, and it still gets content and discussion. The latter should get even better now that the edgemasters and perverts are looking for their next fix away from klk.

>>28060
>>28038
> hard to look back and believe something like k-on or lucky star was once a massive hit.
Interesting you say this because k-on is almost always among the top few recommendations for cgdct. It's true that it may not be talked about actively (and with cgdct there isn't much to discuss int the first place) but if you compare it to other non-airing shows of the same genre k-on and Haruhi pop up relatively more often than others.

>I guess it ultimately lacked the depth of, say, Azumanga or Lucky Star
I think K-on hit its stride near the end of the first season and into the second season in terms of character dynamics and depth; the introduction of Azusa broke up the monotony/repetitiveness of the earlier episodes while adding opportunities for development of friendships and pathos (culminating in the final episode of s2).

Conversely Lucky Star might have had more interesting characters but – aside from the Lucky Channel shorts – I don't feel they were used to their full potential. As mentioned in >>/lol/1250 while the characters evidently do have depth, this isn't fully captured by their interactions in the show and even less screentime is given to their development over the course of the series. The few episodes that did manage to do this (the finale, backstory of Konata's mother) were consequently the most memorable. Perhaps having two cours worked against it in this regard since the balance of comedic antics to development that might have worked fine in any other 1 cour SoL show was diluted with 24 episodes.

>I truly can not remember the last time I saw anyone so much as mention evangelion, where as it used to be all anyone could talk about for the longest time.

It still is frequently talked about and referenced though.

>Likewise it's hard to look back and believe something like k-on or lucky star was once a massive hit.

This also is still quite popular.

I think the problem with these statements is that they assumes that people must constantly talk about an anime to make it a hit or still relevant today, this simply is not the case. If one was to make a thread saying that they were new to anime and would like to know what they should watch it would be things like Evangelion and Lucky Star that people would respond with, because they are still so loved by the general populace. Likewise if one was to make a thread asking people what their favourite anime of all time was, again it would be things lie that.

Could someone tell me what OMG stands for?

>>33946
Is it Aa! Megami-sama! ?

>>28060
KlK was good...?

>>28060
>I didn't see K-on as interesting to begin with. The girls are cute but... I guess it ultimately lacked the depth of, say, Azumanga or Lucky Star.
I don't think that's true. The level of detail put into K-On really elevates it, and the way the cast develops slowly over the course of the series is wonderful. I think the graduation scene in K-On is at least as impactful as Azumanga's. They're both among my favourite series, anyway.

Frieren? Who is that?

The impressions here are too weird, and the time past since its creation shows it. Evangelion burst every possible bubble and is one of the highest grossing franchises ever, the last movie is top 50 movies ever watched in Japan, nothing what you'd expect from something forgotten. Aa Megami-sama and Azumanga Daioh are precursors and genre defining works that are at least permanently etched in history. K-On is the apex of its genre, and shortly after this thread got the K-On Shuffle manga that's been going strong for the last 6 years. Masamune Shirow is regarded as a god of manga, his works have become pop culture references both in the East and the West, and it probably doesn't go 5 years without at least one derivative of his work being produced, how can he be mentioned in a thread about "being forgotten"?

Lucky Star was a particular case for being to referential of the current culture, which is bad enough by itself in the long term, and backfired even worse because of Aya Hirano, with the otaku in Japan getting to the point of burning and destroying related merchandising. Probably no other series aged as terribly. The impression in Western imageboards may be different because it was popular at a time of expansion for this specific community.

If anything of the works mentioned here, Saber Marionette was forgotten because it was never that relevant or influential in the first place, and Kill la Kill is not far from a FOTW that just ended up getting a little more attention in American communities.

I also don't know what is the obsession that I've been seeing everywhere about Frieren being forgotten. The manga already surpassed a lot of classics in absolute number sales, and even more so in the sales by volume, I wouldn't bet on it being forgotten soon.

>>38267
Being English-only will obviously skew people's perception. The English-speaking side is a bubble formed from second-hand impressions of a culture, and there's little continuity because of the constant turn-over of slightly older members and influx of new people.

I think the problem probably has a lot to do with the high turn over rate among the fans of this stuff. The majority of fans are gonna be younger people, often with low attention spans, who have little or no good reason to explore the works made before they joined the scene. Why would they? From their perspective it's not culturally relevant anymore, it's not trending, their friends almost certainly aren't watching these anime, and they have well more than enough new works being made everyday to occupy their time.
Add onto that the turnover rate. These kids aren't going to stick around long. 5-10 years and they're out, off to get a normie life. They won't stick around long enough to explore even half of what the this world has to offer.

>>38267
>Frieren being forgotten.
It's far from forgotten at the moment but I think it has the air to it of something that will be forgotten in time before long. Maybe people are trying to say it's forgettable?

>>38269
I believe /a/ likes to call that a "time flop". I don't know if there's a better term to describe it, the closest ones I can think of are "overhyped", "fad", FOTM, and "flash in pan"

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>>38269
That may be the case for Frieren, but just shows the difference of perception on both markets. Frieren got better weekly TV ratings than One Piece in Japan, which is a big deal. I think it has the potential to get at least a normalfag/entry-level continued popularity like a Boku no Hero Academia type of production in the West, it may become somewhat of a bane in more niche communities like imageboards, as a lot of other popular anime have been in the past.

>>38270
"Time flop" sounds like a stupid way of saying "forgettable".

>>38272
"Forgettable" is not the same though, since that doesn't have a connotation that it was initially hyped. Flash in pan, FOTM, and overhyped all have that connotation.

According to myanimelist.net, the top 5 are:

1Sousou no Frieren
TV (28 eps)
Sep 2023 - Mar 2024

2Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
TV (64 eps)
Apr 2009 - Jul 2010

3Steins;Gate
TV (24 eps)
Apr 2011 - Sep 2011

4Gintama°
TV (51 eps)
Apr 2015 - Mar 2016

5Shingeki no Kyojin Season 3 Part 2
TV (10 eps)
Apr 2019 - Jul 2019

One indication of popularity for me is if there's still new fan-art for the series.