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33909 No. 33909 [Edit]
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>> No. 33910 [Edit]
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I wonder how much they'll touch on the ethics of what's essentially slavery in this world.
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>>33910
Keep politics and related american faggotry outta my animu!
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>>33912
Yeah, there's no such thing as politics in Nipland...
>> No. 33914 [Edit]
I hope they focus more on the cats instead of the MC, keeping it more of a cgdct. The wide shots of Chocolate going to the shop were very scenic.
>> No. 33915 [Edit]
>>33912
What's political about slavery?
>> No. 33917 [Edit]
>>33915
The point is, catgirls in Neko Paradise are assumed to be domesticated and treated like normal pets in our world.
Why as to instantiate a discussion about with slavery? It's stupid: https://aeon.co/essays/why-keeping-a-pet-is-fundamentally-unethical

I've grown increasingly tired of seeing social issues and agendas unnecessarily, forced into entertainment, creative media, and well, just about everywhere, hence it triggered such a fervent behavior so I do apologize for the somewhat enthusiastic response.
>> No. 33920 [Edit]
>>33917
Pets in our world don't possess human levels of intelligence, and I don't know about you but I don't fuck my pets.
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>>33910
Twist the nature of something enough and anything can be moral. What is wrong for highly autonomous replicator species might not be wrong for a dependent species.
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>>33917
>assumed to be domesticated
What would that mean in this context? Domesticaton is a many-generational long process that changes the average behavior and appearance of a species through selective breeding. Just raising an animal in captivity doesn't make it domesticated. There's general criteria for domestication, including: a short gestation cycle, fast maturation, and simple mating rituals. Catgirls apparently mature faster and go through heat. What is a wild catgirl like and why have we never seen a male neko if they can't reproduce with humans?
>> No. 33925 [Edit]
>>33917 >>33920 >>33922
This should be a thread of its own.
It's a bit autistic for thread about what is just a short eroge VN, now anime apparently.
>> No. 33927 [Edit]
>>33925
I don't see how it's "autistic" to discuss the systems and mechanics that make up the world of this series in what would otherwise be an absolutely dead thread anyway going off the reception other anime of this season have had so far.
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>>33927
No anon, you're getting it all wrong. Every post should say how cute the characters are and who we like the best. Discussing stuff is autistic unless the topic is super serious enough.
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>>33922
I haven't finished the games but my in lore hypothesis answer to all these questions is that all the cats are all created in a lab and designed to have all the traits humans would want without any of the drawbacks, such as cat girls being lazy dirty smelly loud obnoxious rude cunts, and yes wild, unless a client is into that sort of thing of course and orders a custom maid3D cat girl. Most factory made catgirls would likely be sold in pet shop like environments and specialty stores. Some might let you window shop and pick a catgirl out of a cage, others might have you order one from a catalog and have it shipped to the store or your home. When owners decide they don't want the burden of what's practically a child to take care of, they abandon the catgirls and you get stray cat girls. The lack of catboys could be a Jurassic park like preventive measure to keep catpeople from breeding out of control... which could lead to them out numbering humans, forming their own societies, and eventually going to war with humans and enslaving them as revenge.

Of course the real answer is simply "sexy cute catgirls, nyaa nyaa, don't think about it".
>> No. 33930 [Edit]
>>33929
That's fun. So you think they started with humans and changed them. It's slavery that's legal because they don't count as human. Their price point must be massive then, even if they do have boys and keep them in breeding farms. I don't get though how there would be any people so stupid they would shell out the cash needed, and then be unwilling to raise one for just a year and abandon it on the street. Also, they'd be kidnapped within a day if they're homeless.
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>>33930
That's an interesting idea about catboy studs on farms. Fertilizing human embryos with modified genetic code would likely be very impractical in the long term for large volume production due to the work involved in modifying the genetic code, issues with pregnancy time, sourcing volunteers, paying them, and more. catboys as such would indeed be necessary. I imagine there would have to be very strict regulations and laws in place to keep catboys out of public hands let alone running wild, and the corporations would likely keep them under very heavy guard at all times as such, but I do wonder if it wouldn't be possible to artificially inseminate a catgirls embryos without the need of a male donor. Use of a stud alone would likely produce unpredictable results in offspring, as such I imagine catboys would need to be milked for genetic material which would then be modified and injected into female embryos to produce a desirable grade of catgirl. Although it would indeed be more profitable in the long term to use selective breeding techniques to create a sustainable chain of what would be essentially pure bread offspring. It could be the corporations do both, having natural born catgirls at a lower price with the genetically modified custom catgirls at a high premium.

And yes catgirls technically not being human would probably allow the companies to skirt all sorts of laws and regulations. They'd likely use paid off officials to lobby in favor of these companies and retain the loopholes, for a time. At least until catgirl rights activists start to form resistance movements, which would then draw media attention, bad press, and eventually get some new regulations passed. ...could also be everyone's so happy to live in a world of catgirls that no one complains.
I imagine A catgirl would indeed most likely be expensive, but probably no more than a car. If I had to guess I'd say maybe in the 1,000,000 jpy ($10,000 USD) range. The main character's family in nekopara is said to be very wealthy if I remember correctly, and the MC's sister is obsessed with catgirls so it isn't unreasonable that they'd have so many.
Yes it seems crazy at first glance that someone would toss away something so expensive, but you have to remember people already do this all the time with expensive electronics like TVs that they dump on the side of the road, and cars that they abandon or sell for a fraction of what they paid. Then there's people who abandon their children for one reason or another, often a realization they're not up to the responsibility. There could be a number of reasons why someone would buy a catgirl then abandon her. Maybe they were wealthy but fell on hard times and couldn't afford to support the catgirl, maybe a person's wife came home to find her husband fucking their catgirl and she got kicked out, maybe the owner died and the family didn't know what to do with it? Maybe someone got someone else a kittengirl as a gift, but then it grew up and lost it's appeal to them like people do with puppies on Christmas. The list goes on. I don't know if they'd necessarily be kidnapped right away, that is essentially where our main characters come from, but it'd still be a big responsibility to take in catgirls even if they're free. Chocola and Vanilla were very sick and unhealthy when they were taken in by the main character's family, and it took a lot of work to nurture them back to health. Then again it's not impossible. There could be some perverts out there itching to kidnap a catgirl, but I feel like they'd be uncommon and most people would see abandoned catgirls the way we see homeless people.
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>>33931
>I do wonder if it wouldn't be possible to artificially inseminate a catgirls embryos without the need of a male donor
Uh, what? Making new, novel dna from scratch would be way too much work to do often. If you use preexisting dna, you'd be making a clone. If your catgirl dies, that might be a nice option.
Catpeople probably have a different number of chromosomes than humans. Chromosomes are basically just the way dna is packaged, but it is a reproduction blockade. There's a man in China who was born with 44 chromsomes. He has no physical or mental abnormalities what so ever, but he can't reproduce with a normal woman.
>Use of a stud alone would likely produce unpredictable results in offspring
Not really. Selective breeding can be very fine-tuned and predictable, especially with artificial insemination(with sperm from a male). They could already look for sperm with specific information more than ten years ago. With no genetic engineering what so ever, they were able to make those Belgian Blue abominations. Selecting for very specific personality traits though is way more complicated, but the material breeders are already working with is good enough and customer expectations are probably not THAT high.
>people already do this all the time with expensive electronics like TVs that they dump on the side of the road, and cars that they abandon or sell for a fraction of what they paid. Then there's people who abandon their children for one reason or another, often a realization they're not up to the responsibility
The main point of a catgirl is sex though. It takes a while for them to be able to do their main functions, unlike electronics and cars. They're throwing away something at least as expensive as a car before they could even use it. The hardest point of child rearing is the first couple of years when they're totally dependent, but for catgirls that period is probably only a month or two and I bet there's nannies and daycare centers available that would take care of that for you. Affording it wouldn't be a problem if they could afford a catgirl. The manufactures might even be willing to take returns. They're valuable enough to resell or use for breeding. Or an owner could sell it themself for a couple thousand at least.
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>>33932
>Making new, novel dna from scratch would be way too much work to do often. If you use preexisting dna, you'd be making a clone.
Making gametes from stem cells is actually quite possible. It's even possible to create female sex chromosome containing sperm like cells. You could then use that on the ovum of another cat girl and have full genetic variation bimaternal species without any living males. All you'd need to do is create a stable breeding population of females. As few as ~160 initial individuals could create a several generations of variants without issue if the genetic stock was selected carefully. Then after one recoups the initial investment create more new genomes and add them to the pool to stave off any potential bottlenecks or genetic degradation.
>> No. 33934 [Edit]
>>33933
>Making gametes from stem cells is actually quite possible. It's even possible to create female sex chromosome containing sperm like cells.
That's interesting. There's all kinds of complications that could come up though. They're a long way from ironing everything out. I think it would make everything less predictable and way more error-prone. The less infant death, the better. They can only reproduce so often and so many times, far less than actual cats.

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