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27305 No. 27305 [Edit]
lookin good.
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>> No. 27306 [Edit]
oh wait i guess thats 2017
oops
>> No. 27307 [Edit]
Many interesting stuff.
>>27306
?
Winter 2016-2017.
>> No. 27308 [Edit]
Well, I guess I'm not watching anything this season either.
>> No. 27309 [Edit]
>>27305
oh my, when did Ao no exorcist S2 get announced? That's a very pleasant surprise. I hope the OST is as good as the first season.

Urara Meirochou looks interesting enough, if it stays more toward the slice of life side than drama.
I might follow Demi-chan and dragon maid, but they will likely be the first things to be dropped or added to the backlog if things get busy.
chaos;child, grandblue, and the JC staff Strikers anime will likely be entertaining trainwrecks, and hand Shakers looks like it will be Kurokami all over again.

I'll probably wait for the BD set for the Xebec anime, and little witch academia will have more entertainment in watching the fanbase as the show fails to live up to the hype than from the show itself.

more strike the blood OVAs will be welcome.
The Fate/GO OVA looks like it's going to be part of a trilogy or otherwise similar milking scheme.

The Movie line-up looks pretty solid. Hopefully the Lupin movie gets subbed within a reasonable timeframe after the BD is released.
>> No. 27310 [Edit]
Wow, there's very little that looks interesting to me this time. This is gonna be a tough season...
>> No. 27316 [Edit]
What's up with the Little Witch Academia preview? Isn't that the plot of the first one?
>> No. 27341 [Edit]
Demi-chan wa Kataritai
Idol Jihen
Urara Meirochou
Minami Kamakura Koukou Joshi Jitensha-bu
Kemono Friends
Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon
BanG Dream!
Little Witch Academia
Gabriel Dropout
Nyanko Days

These are the ones that interest me the most, but I'm not sure if I'll be able to watch all of them.
>> No. 27638 [Edit]
I'll be watching:
Kobayashi-san Chi no Maid Dragon
Gabriel DropOut
Nyanko Days
Piace: Watashi no Italian
Ai Mai Mii: Surgical Friends
ChäoS;Child
Fate/Grand Order
Kirakira☆Precure À La Mode
Urara Meirochou

But really this is a pretty uninteresting looking season. Everything looks like the same old shit I'm tired of seeing. Generic emo kid with harem of impossibly beautiful girls who maybe fights some crazy cliche asshole together. Moronic Idols saving the world with music crap. Mecha shit that looks cool but is annoying dark edgy garbage. It's all just so "bleh". At least you can't go wrong with cuteness.
>> No. 27640 [Edit]
Every time there's a new season people just say that it's shit. I remember someone on 4chan digging up posts from many years ago when a bunch of now classic anime aired and people were whining what a shit season it was. I also ran across a YouTube video declaring this season to be the worst ever or one of the worst ever... before even a single show had started.

The anime community is pretty much nothing but whining season after season and year after year, very few people actually like anime beyond a couple of shows here and there. I wonder if it's always been like this or if the normies have just taken over.
>> No. 27641 [Edit]
>>27640
Probably both. Normals have made the numerical amount of 'shit season' posts more, for sure.

One of my guesses is it's a psychological self-defence mechanism. If you think it's shit to begin with, as opposed to thinking it's great, nobody can suddenly tell you off and make you feel in-correct because you never felt good to begin with.
'In psychoanalytic theory, defence mechanisms are psychological strategies brought into play by the unconscious mind[4] to manipulate, deny, or distort reality in order to defend against feelings of anxiety and unacceptable impulses and to maintain one's self-schema.[5]
>> No. 27642 [Edit]
>>27305
I'll check out Little Witch Academia because I like Trigger. Probably will watch Urara Meirochu as I can't find the manga and it looks neat/moemoe.

And Fate/Grand Order of course, I'm a huge Type-Moon fan, even considering this new Type-Moon that seems to revolve exclusively around the Fate/ series. The Servants are all cool.

Onihei Hankachou and Acca look interesting as well but I'd like to wait and see how they go. Maybe Idol Jihen too. I guess there really is an "idol genre". elDive seems cool too but I'll wait with that one as well. I have a big backlog that I need to work on before starting more shows. I'm also kind of curious about what this big secret is in Kuzu no Honkai but not enough to actually watch it.

Hand Shakers looks like absolute trash. It almost seems like a composite of various shows from the past. That's how this Japanimation stuff works though.

>>27640
You can't blame it all on normies. In my experience, antisocial internet dweebs are the most jaded and pessimistic group of people in the world, and for good reason.
Plus there simply aren't that many good shows released per season. There's something like 20 series every season and maybe 3 to 5 of them are actually good. Making the criteria "original works only" in fact lowers that number somehow.
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>>27642
>There's something like 20 series every season and maybe 3 to 5 of them are actually good
The entire television broadcasters does not cater to just your taste.
It's silly, and indeed arrogant, to think so.
It's a big problem I found in the Western internet, everybody expects everything to cater to their specific wants, otherwise it's bad, completely disregarding the courtesy that someone else might like it.

'How dare they continue to release moe anime even though I now watch anime and don't like moe?! The industry is shit, the only way for them to redeem themselves by catering only to me'.
I've seen this way too often said, in all seriousness, by people on the internet.
>> No. 27645 [Edit]
>>27643
Seems you're projecting a bit there.

>The entire television broadcasters does not cater to just your taste.

Objectively speaking, anime in general is indeed pretty crappy now that everything halfway decent has been adapted already and we're now scraping the bottom of the barrel.

The majority of anime aired today is highly unoriginal, repetitive, and cliche. When you've logged 2,000+ hours worth of the stuff every 'new' anime feels like something you've already seen before. More often than not that's because it was probably copied from a more popular work that came before.
When you're new to anime however (not necessarily saying that you are here), you have no way of knowing this. Limited exposure to the stuff makes everything fun and exciting and different. When you're green you haven't yet watched as dime a dozen under achiever boy who sites by window at back of class falls on a fashion model grade girl and grabs her tits on the bizarrely empty school rooftop while his dyed hair best friend gets angry and jelly because he can't get any for the billionth time.

Characters tend to lack depth and have shallow cliched personalty traits that define them as a whole with maybe a gimmick or two to separate them from the rest. These lazy over simplified personality types can be classified into a small number of easily recognizable categorizes such as the tsundere, the bookworm, the ojousama, and so on. I shouldn't have to explain the problem with stereotyping people like that. Aside from these unrealistic personality types you also have everyone being literally picture perfect and flawless in every conceivable way. This makes for a very disjointed watching experience, never mind trying to relate to any of these characters because they may as well all be aliens. This might work for comedies or more lighthearted stuff but it all too often finds it's way into material with more serious themes and tones, thus making it hard to take the material seriously. This is one of the reasons why I personally stick to cute/moe stuff mainly, it lends itself better to that sort of thing and is harder to fuck up.
You've also got the general moronic nature of anime in which character expressions are over exaggerated for viewers who can't pick up on subtly. Current events and what characters are doing/thinking get spelled out blatantly to viewers who can't be bother to pay attention. Story and plot lines that make little or no sense while characters make wild insane leaps of logic and ignore what common sense would usually dictate. Horrible fact checking or flat out lies from writers who seem to have a poor grasp of reality.
Then there's poor animation where in half of everything is still frames with with a panning shot, or characters flapping their mouths with two frames of animation. Audio also tends to be an issue with incorporate sounds given to things that shouldn't make such sounds and vice versa. For example how guns rattle every time someone moves them in an anime, while ambient sounds on the other hand are often missing. While VAs do tend to usually do their job well, There's this annoying practice of giving everyone the same exact volume. See when people are further away their voices are supposed to be lower than those who are close up because of the distance, people will also sound differently depending on their environment, what kind of room they're in and so on, yet anime will often use the same exact levels and audio mixing across the board. This can all be chalked up to low budgets and horrible working conditions. Anime movies will typically have better quality animation, writing, and so on, but your average tv anime? There's a reason why so much of it gets aired at 3am during during infomercial time slots and rarely get re-runs.
>> No. 27647 [Edit]
>>27645
>Objectively speaking, anime in general is indeed pretty crappy now

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Objectivity_%28philosophy%29
'objectivity means the state or quality of being true even outside of a subject's individual biases, interpretations, feelings, and imaginings. A proposition is generally considered objectively true (to have objective truth) when its truth conditions are met without biases caused by feelings, ideas, opinions, etc., of a sentient subject.'
>> No. 27648 [Edit]
>>27647
Anime is objectively garbage.
>> No. 27649 [Edit]
>>27647
When reading these type of replies you have to keep in mind the fact that by now the vast majority of imageboard users showed up because "its the cool thing to do on the internet, I hope my facebook friends see me posting on 4chan then they'll know how hip, cool and edgy I am". These people don't like anime as anything other than contrived personality trait of their own. Even if they did try to appreciate it, they probably would fail because they aren't interested and never were.
Thats the type of person who goes around posting about how they're not watching anything this season because "the season sucks" or "anime is all played out" or whatever it is that the kewl kids on 4chumps are doing for them to mimic, etc. To them, watching anime is a chore that they're rather not do. When it comes time to go to the anime con and get their picture taken with snacks so they can impress their ironically nerdy friends, then they're full of energy and enthusiasm.
So when they come here to post about how they're aren't watching anime just ignore them, they're just attention whoring for replies, not contributing anything information wise.
>> No. 27650 [Edit]
>>27649
>not contributing anything information wise.

Plenty of valid points were given in >>27645, yet you choose to ignore them all and instead project completely baseless bullshit.
What you're doing is essentially trolling. How about you write an essay on why anime is good so I can wipe my ass with it and call you a retard to my friends? Then we'd see how you like it.
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>>27650
>Plenty of valid points were given in
>yet you choose to ignore them all and instead project completely baseless bullshit.
You are doing to his post what you so despise him, allegedly, doing to your post.
When committing hypocrisy at this level, reflection should be done as to how 'objective' you can actually be as of now.

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>> No. 27655 [Edit]
>>27654
>You are doing to his post what you so despise him, allegedly, doing to your post.
Because he didn't make any points at all. Everything in their post was passive aggressive made up lies, slander, and ad hominem clearly made to dodge the issue. Just as you too are attacking my character rather than addressing any of the points made. Meaning by your definition you are also committing hypocrisy.

>" I hope my facebook friends see me posting on 4chan then they'll know how hip, cool and edgy I am""
That's not refuting a point, that's a textbook attack on someone's character who never once mentioned facebook, 4chan, or having friends.
>> No. 27656 [Edit]
>>27645
if you're only at 2000 hours and you can't find something genuinely fantastic to watch then you don't like anime.
>> No. 27658 [Edit]
>>27656
Still dodging the points I see, and still projecting. Who are you to say I don't like anime? I certainly never said I didn't.
>> No. 27659 [Edit]
What the hell is all this? You guys need to take it easy. It's just anime. There's no need to establish debate rules or attack anyone's character. All you have to do is talk about the shows this season. It's not hard and I'm sure people as intelligent as you won't have a problem with it. You're getting all worked up over 4chan and Facebook and philosophical objectivity when all anyone wanted to do was discuss the new Japanese cartoons coming out in the coming months. Holy fuck.

I'm very sorry that I mentioned an opinion that people may or may not disagree with, but the fact of the matter is that a decidedly small percentage of shows "go beyond" their current season. It's sad for one reason or another but it's just a thing that happens in this industry. I was indulging in an admittedly harsh hyperbole when I said 3/20 shows per season are "actually good", that's my bad, I tend to exaggerate my opinions on the internet. I didn't think it would lead to such a derailment, I'm sorry.

Urara Meirochu is out, I'm planning to watch the first episode before bed tonight. Has anyone seen it, is it good?

I also know Grand Order has been out for a minute but I haven't seen it yet. Predicting it to be an hour-long exposition episode as Type/Moon love to do so I'll save it for a day when I'm bored.
>> No. 27663 [Edit]
>>27645
>>27648
Do you stupid fucking casual whiny entitled ameritard faggots have to infest absolutely every last place on the internet that's even remotely related to anime? Every fucking place I go to now has this fucking ignorant retarded whining going on. There's like maybe a few hundred real fans in existence and everyone else is just some fucking poseur who's seen Cowboy Bebop and now spends all their time soapboxing about how anime is all shit now, because that's what they heard on 4chan. Fucking morons couldn't make a factually correct or logically sound statement about anime even if their life depended on it, because they've practically never watched it and just repeat whatever fucking braindead misinformed garbage they read about it.

And these fucking subhuman cretins are allowed to infest even small, supposedly "otaku" (hahahahah) sites like Tohno. It doesn't matter anymore if you're on Tohno, 4chan, 8chan, MAL, Reddit or YouTube, it's all the same fucking shit now. Normalfags have taken over every single place and there's nowhere left to go. I am going to delete this site from my history and never set foot in this fucking shithole again.
>> No. 27664 [Edit]
>>27663
You could always talk about anime instead of interacting with trolls but leaving in a hissy fit like a small child is fine too I guess. Entitled anime fans are all the same.
>> No. 27667 [Edit]
>>27645
The overall production has only gotten better, not that it matters much. What really ruins an anime aesthetically is weak directing and unskilled key animation. The Five Star Stories AMV looks stupid despite the insane detail money in 1989 could buy, because the key animation is bad. Contrast with Urusei Yatsura. Loops and stills and hideous backgrounds, but it's a great watch because of the expressive key animation (and because it's one of the better anime ever made).
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27668
Things are getting so sectarian in this post! Friends, friends, we are all on the same side!

>>27308
>>27645
>>27648

90% of all content in any medium ever created is garbage, that's Sturgeon's Law, so we all understand your frustration friend (and in our hearts agree). But you know that there is still that 10% that isn't trash; it's why you're here, posting on this site brother. You leaned too heavily on your anger and it misled people about your opinions and upset other posters.

>>27663
>>27649
Now now, it's true that there are "normie" faggots (dickless cocksuckers who we all agree should be dead) who moralize and ridicule anime and its community when they don't know a thing about the medium. But we both know that doesn't mean anyone who is critical of contrived, banal anime is one of them. You know that.

If we take a step back I think we can all agree that there is a lot of terrible anime and that there are a lot of normies who unfairly subvert good anime with their ignorant rhetoric. Yes? There is good anime we all love and I don't think any posters in this thread are normies. Yes?

Now that that's all perfectly cleared up, I just want to say that after watching several episodes of this seasons shows I think they all suck.

>>27659
Just anime? A little naive aren't you?
>> No. 27670 [Edit]
>>27659

Urara Meirochu, this was the show I was looking forward to most. After watching Stella no Mahou I was really riding high last season and had the bar set pretty high in terms of quality in my moe. Urara Meirochu's first episode disappointed me; the characters are the usual caricatures and the fan service is contrived and tacked on.

I think I'm coming into it a little too jaded; Stella no Mahou was so earnest and sweet it melted my heart over and over, so getting the usual anime fanservice shoved in my face by Urara Meirochu is bumming me out. It's not any worse than most moe anime, it's just doesn't look like it will be one of the better ones.

I'll be curious to see what you (and other posters) think. I might be a little to biased.
>> No. 27671 [Edit]
>>27670
It's really cute! The characters are all moe. I like the main cast a lot.

The setting is beautiful. I enjoy the design of the town, it reminds me a bit of Kyousougiga.

The divination methods are interesting. I'm curious as to what Chiya's method will be - The scene with the kokkuri was a pretty jarring change of tone.
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>> No. 27692 [Edit]
>>27668
>You leaned too heavily on your anger and it misled people about your opinions and upset other posters.
I'm not sure if I'd call it 'anger' per-say, but you're right. I did paint myself into a corner there that made people blindly hate me and refuse to acknowledge anything I said as such. Yes, I do like anime, in-spite of thinking a large amount of it is terrible (including the stuff I liked) and I'm sure I even mentioned that before. In fact I've logged more than 11k ep of the stuff, spent thousands of dollars on merch, have had the same waifu for a decade, and swore off 3dpd ages ago.
The problems with anime applies to just about any medium honestly. As someone who also watches tons of movies (I have a lot of free time) I can tell you there's a lot of parallols, especially in how formulaic they tend to be.

In retrospect I think the real issue is these shows and charts have really horrible descriptions that don't do the shows justice. Anything will sound like garbage if they all read as: "mc-kun is a normal highschool boy blah blah meets beautiful girl blah blah saves the world." Granted a lot of these shows do end up sucking all the same, but it would help if they didn't sound so horrible to start with.
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