What's worse is the knowing. The weight of human emotions is enough to bury anybody if they think about the world for longer than the time it takes them to throw out the garbage each morning.

What's worse YET is trying to live your life without feeling guilty, without hating yourself, without feeling so sorry for the world and everybody in it because of all these things you've mentioned. To paraphrase any number of TV parents, "I'm not angry, I'm just disappointed".

It's like the world was wired by Haruhi above in such a way as to amuse whoever is looking down on us. Like some sort of reality show for sadistic higher beings, and us humans are the cast. Maybe the flaws in humanity are some sort of planned obsolescence scheme, to save the people above becoming bored and to save the people right here from ever knowing any better.

Or maybe I'm full of wank and need another drink.

People are shit. That is a fact.

Anyway, that picture of the comic with the Joker saying that everything is a joke really fits this topic.

I like people, generally speaking. People tend to do the right thing, or at least what they believe to be the right thing. And if they do the wrong thing, they usually feel guilty about it. I'm not saying people are "good" or "bad" but we are often creatures of our environment. I may hate the situations that force them into doing things that hurt others, but the people themselves are only adapting to the situation around them based on their experiences and personal tendencies. The mugger wouldn't be a mugger if he were born to a family of billionaires. The suicide bomber wouldn't be a suicide bomber if his family hadn't been made destitute by one war after the next. You can go on and on to infinite regression to find causes for why people do things, but the way people act is bound by the current situation. They're not necessarily blameless, but they're not completely in control either.

I hate people quite a bit but even I have to concede many nations have moved towards enforcing more civilized behaviour. Be happy you have rule of law even if a few people can still dick around. I'd rather be tried in a modern court here than be at the mercy of a noble or crazy religious nubjob's whim in the days of old. Or be denied due process altogether. Be happy you have basic property, healthcare and other rights because there was a time when these were pipedreams. The working poor here are still better off than the slaves and serfs of old. There is a social safety net which was unheard of centuries ago. Even if the veneer of civilization is thin (we are 9 meals away from anarchy etc.), it's still better than nothing and much darker times of old.

>>14079
>healthcare
You don't live in the states do you?

>>14080
Fortunately no. Higher education isn't a free right but is fairly affordable here too. Lots of merit grants and bursaries for the poor. In the olden days those in power would be busy making sure lower classes don't receive any form of advanced education let alone be able to write or use internet. Of course shitholes like NK still do that.

>>14072
>What's worse is the knowing. The weight of human emotions is enough to bury anybody if they think about the world for longer than the time it takes them to throw out the garbage each morning.

This. The only emotional defense I can think of (for those unable to delude themselves into believing that humans aren't disgusting) is simply not thinking about it. And sometimes, that's pretty hard.

Every single person that isn't absolutely absent-minded realizes this when they turn 13. How this is accepted in the long-run, that's different. Some end up using the system for their own advantage. Other people just hang in limbo with a terrible job, cursing their circumstances and the world everyday, but not being strong enough to being to do anything about it. This is most people.

And then there's somebody like me, who goes even further down and eventually starts laughing at how absurd and twisted everything is. A different variant of my type tries to change the corruption of the world through varying intensities of violent and non-violent action. In my view, the evolution will come naturally, so it'd be a waste of time for me to participate in such pursuits. I'd rather just enjoy myself in some isolated corner, not bothering anybody, and not concerning myself with the world's problems. There's just no use.

Reading through your post, I also wanted to tell you about a concept I support. It's pretty simple, but I feel like many people don't give it enough consideration.

You have no choice in your genetics, and you have no choice in who your parents are or the environment you are raised in. All these factors will create you as a person. So in a sense, those types you hate, they are the way they are because of things that are not in their control. A common argument against this kind of thinking is that an adult is responsible for their own actions. Note how most of the people that preach this grew up without mental illnesses, without large predispositions to addictions, with good parents (loose term) in a good home (also a loose term), and weren't born ugly or stupid. Of course, it's much easier and more convenient to blame, lock up, or kill those people perceived as evil. It's a great confidence booster.

We need others to survive, I just limit my interactions with others in real life so I just interact when necessary.
And to discuss about things Anonymous imageboards like this one are ideal as I dont have to deal with your ugly faces/smell/mannerisms.

>>14088

I think that there is more types of people.
For example, I hate people and the world probably more than 10 edgy kids lumped together.
But you know, I would take a bullet for just about any stranger.

Part of the reason why I would save the stranger from dying is that I want to be of help. The other reason is that I know that, that same stranger wouldn't do the same thing for me, automatically making me superior and that if anyone were to blame me for doing such a thing I would say that there is no way in the world that my action was a wrong one.

I know that nobody is better than me, because pretty much 99.9% of current world is bunch of pessimistic shit eaters who would rather see people die than their own property burn.

Well, that is what keeps me running through this shithole called life.

>>14196
So you have something akin to a messiah complex? I doubt you being not selective over the types of people you prefer to save if it can be helped though.

>>14197

I'd say that I have some mnior kind of deviation from Messiah complex though,I don't really care much about who I will save as long as I feel that nobody can say me that my way of thinking is wrong.
Actually there is exception, If someone would threaten to kill my family I would let them do it. I don't even know the reason why. Because my family really loves me and treasures me, yet I feel disgusted when they try to show me their love.

Maybe I feel undeserving of that love or maybe I feel that I am a being beyond love, only made to maintain my idel?

>>14070
>gore fetishists speck of the art and beauty in mutilation and disimbowlment

Suffering is moe.

>>14157
You still have to deal with their ugly personalities, though. Too many otaku claim to like 2D girls while embodying everything cute 2D girls would hate.

>>14070
>gore fetishists speck of the art and beauty in mutilation and disimbowlment

Do faggots actually say this?

>>14264
I watch anime to escape from things like pain and suffering, watching my cute 2D girls suffering is torture.

Who gets 'more' in the end actually doesn't matter at all - different people have different desires and value things at different rates. For example, not everyone cares about becoming wealthy (I sure as hell place no value on money, aside what I need to survive). So a fat kid got more cookies out of the cookie jar than the kid with self-restraint? Okay. Maybe the kid valued discipline over adding some sugary treats to his weight. Why does discipline matter more? Depends what he desires in his life. Not everyone wants the same thing in life. If he wanted that cookie more than anything and never got it through any means due to being too afraid to take any form of action, then it becomes sad. The drive from figuring out how to obtain that cookie, whether through permission or theft has more value than condemning either child no matter what action they take (take the cookie and you're a bad person, don't take the cookie and you get screwed over). You've placed them both in a no-win scenario, which forgoes the desire and willingness to take action that is present in human behaviour and what ultimately drives a person, regardless what their moral stance is. There is no "good" or "evil" regarding this cookie jar, only perspectives, desires and goals.

You can label anyone and everyone as "good" or "evil" depending on very simple reasoning. Currently you're labeling all humans as "bad" because of how they act. You hate them for acting out of necessity. But that's how anything, anywhere thrives. Self-preservation. People act out of interest because they only have their own values and beliefs to follow. Law doesn't always fully make sense to follow. The one in charge isn't always fair - are you a bad person for going against him, or is he the bad person for restricting others of things that would be otherwise easily accessible? You've labeled them both bad without care to circumstances or any interest in what's going on. It's certainly easier that way, I'll give you that. Is a human "bad" for taking action? Does inaction make someone 'better' in your eyes? If all of humanity was peaceful, loving, idealistic, sharing, caring people - you would need just one person, just one, to take some kind of negative action to screw everyone over. You realize this, right? Does that make humanity as a whole "evil"? Does *defense* against allowing this particular thing to occur make humanity as a whole evil?

As for mental gymnastics in order to feel better about doing actions they would otherwise feel bad about doing - it's required to function. If we let everything get to us, we would probably cease to function. Even the 9-5 job guy you mentioned that's a victim to his bosses, that guy is jumping through the same hoops as everyone as and telling himself his life is okay and there is nothing wrong going on. People use the very logic on themselves, abuse themselves and continue to tell themselves they aren't doing anything wrong to themselves. But they are. And it usually shows. It's not something people do simply to work themselves up to hurting others, it's something they do in all kinds of situations in order to keep going strong. You're doing mental gymnastics regarding humanity right now, just as I am, and our individual points of view are based on the fact that if we saw humanity any other way, we would lose a bit of our will to undergo particular actions. How are humans "bad" for acknowledging they're trapped in circumstances and they need to cope with them? Because you don't like the content of what they're not taking responsibility for?

It's very easy to hate humanity. I just don't understand how you can hate people based on circumstances. It sounds like the only thing you could like is a robot who doesn't have any desires. Since, desire, is what causes people to act out, which obviously, is always going to be a selfish action, since desire is something that pertains only to that one individual. Everyone else is desiring different things at different levels. And desire, drive and passion have always been things I found to be particularly interesting about people.

>>14265
>Do faggots actually say this?
Yes http://tohno-chan.com/ot/res/12292.html#21451
People will spout all sorts of stupid bullshit to convince themselves they're right about anything. People like that contribute to my hatred of humankind. >>14264 too, Big man likes to torment little girls. why don't they mutilate their own body and see how moe/beautiful it is? Haruhi I fucking hate people.

>>14268
Oh yeah I remember that guy, that wasn't that long ago either. Well that is why I escape to the 2D world, because real life sucks. I will say one thing though, and I said this in the other thread too, hating people for having weird fetishes would be stupid of us, considering the fact that most of us probably like loli. But I can't stand things like guro either, at least he is not actually hurting someone. The difference between me and him though is I can admit that I am horrible and disgusting, just like all humans are horrible. I hate people who try to say they are somehow better than others to boost their ego when in reality everyone is shit.

Post edited on 24th Apr 2013, 1:20pm

>>14269
>hating people for having weird fetishes would be stupid of us
Thats true but when it comes to things that you know people will find extremely offensive and disgusting you should just keep that shit to yourself. I certainly don't try to convince people of how awesome mine is whenever I have the chance, there's no reason to. It doesn't offend people but no one is interested so there's no point in talking about it. Gore fetishists among other types of fetishist interested in offense materials can't understand this simple concept; Just keep it to yourself.

>>14270
This is true but I think on a site like this discussion of something like loli fetish should be OK considering the fact that a ton of people here are bound to like it. Gore on the other hand, yeah it doesn't belong here. I do agree though that a lot of people who look at gore/guro don't do it because of fetishes but to shock people and make themselves feel cool and tough. Back in my late teenage years I knew this faggot who would go on /b/ and look at guro and gore while spouting bad memes smoking hookah and listening to loud edgy music like grindcore or hardcore dance music. Talk about pretentious.

>>14268
>likes to torment little girls.

Quite the contrary. Pic related.

>>14268
On the contrary, I hate how people with no interest in guro waltz into gelbooru/exhentai/pixiv, come across guro images or galleries (apparently the concept of filtering tags is too high level for them) and bitch or spam low ratings/mass petition for expunging (even though it's properly tagged, ON EX, and doesn't break any of their rules. It makes it hard to actually filter out the shitty guro and the good stuff when normals bomb it and everything is rated 1-2 stars. And really, why the HELL do you go out of your way to act morally superior on a Haruhidamned pornography site? And these are the same hypocritical dumbfucks who claim that loli is okay because it's 2D and not real. Well? You can't have it fucking both ways. If it's okay for you to jerk it to a loli being fucked by three fat faceless males, then it should be okay for me to satisfy my death fetish with drawings as well.

But they don't fucking realize that shit, and they are still allowed to fucking post their gripes over something they aren't interested in and fail to take the 5 second precaution of filtering. I fucking hate moral hypocrites. And I hate how they use porn sites as a platform for their shit.

People are both evil and good. The one isn't more "natural" than the other. Most people have their good parts and their evil parts; there really isn't black and white.

>>14070
Most of the second half is subjective and based on your own experiences from the sounds of things, it really lowers the quality of your overall thought to end on the low note that is an opinion.
I hate people too for many reasons, some similar and some different to yours.

>>14645
>apparently the concept of filtering tags is too high level for them
You say that as if all guro is properly tagged.

Even if it's a pornography site, there are some things no one in their right mind want to see and find deeply disturbing and traumatizing. This is something you guro fanatics can't ever seem to get thru your think skulls.
You could think of it like a far worse version of furry porn, something many also really don't want to have to ever see and is banned & auto deleted across many sites.

It's completely moronic to compare a loli being fucked to a loli being mutated and tortured to death. If given a choice between getting getting fucked in your ass or getting fucked in the ass while hacked and slashed at over your entire body with a razorblade before having someone tear your limbs off with brute force, skin you then slice your neck open... which would you or any sane person pick?
You should at least learn how to keep your sick twisted desires to yourself. I don't go around shoving my fetish into people's faces becuase I know no one gives a shit about it and a few dislike it. you people on the other hand have one that deeply bothers people but you can't keep it to yourself. gelbooru/exhentai/pixiv, these are largely public places for everyone. why in your right mind would you want fill them with things you know sicken people? (sometimes literally) This leads me to believe you enjoy tormenting not only little girls but anyone you can including random people on the internet. Why not do like many furfags do and go to guro specific sites for your fix? when what you're into bothers people and not the other way around you should be the one to take it somewhere else where it wouldn't bother people, not expect them put up with it.

I'll put this bluntly, you're fucking sick. A horrible person on multiple levels. The fact you people always try to downplay it by comparing it to loli is a pathetic copout. You should try some of the stuff you jerk off to on yourself before you wish it on others. I doubt any of you know what real pain is, what it's like to really suffer. Just accept the fact that you're into some sick shit most people don't want to see and keep it to yourself.

>>14778
so?

>>15041
I can't say I've been bothered by the few guro works that pop up on my filter on exhentai once in a blue moon. Even if the cover or title doesn't instantly reveal it as something to pass on, the tags and comments will generally deliver the message without fail before I see any of the content. The same goes for furry or any other stuff that I wouldn't like seeing. General purpose porn sites don't try to shock their users with potentially offensive content - you get plenty of chances to back out before taking a look. And even if you do end up taking a look, you can back out instantly and do something pleasant rather than dwelling on it and fuming in the comments and votes.

>>15041
It's not real. Christ, what a whiner.
I don't even like guro, you're just acting like the folks people come here to avoid.

>>15044
I wasn't aware folks come here to masturbate to little girls being tortured and murdered without persecution. You are far worse than any Ford Driver. you're ruining our escapism.
>It's not real.
I think you're the one missing the point of this site. It's the things that aren't real that this site is all about. You don't belong here if you think 'It's not real' is a valid justification for guro. If anything we come here to avoid you and your kind who have no respect for 2D. Go tell the guys on /mai/ 'it's not real' and see how that flys.
>what a whiner
Check what board you're on.

>>15045
>I wasn't aware folks come here to masturbate to little girls being tortured and murdered without persecution.
I would like to hear detailed arguments why doing this is bad or immoral? Just because you don't like it?

>>15046
>little girls being tortured and murdered
>why doing this is bad or immoral
...

>>15045
>Go tell the guys on /mai/ 'it's not real' and see how that flys.
Don't you realize you are using your own cards against yourself? By that logic, guro IS justified, because it isn't real.

>If anything we come here to avoid you and your kind who have no respect for 2D.
Appropriate respect cannot be measured objectively. In my opinion subhumans like you shouldn't be allowed to lay eyes on 2D, because it is disrespectful. Please leave this site. See?

It seems to be consensus opinion, that people come here because they enjoy 2D-fiction, nothing else. You seem to be the one who has misunderstood purpose of this site.

>>15047
That's not an argument, retard.

>>15044
Not him but you don't get it. As someone into escapism and 2D it is just as painful to see a little 2D girl being mutilated as it is a real one. Your excuse this whole time has been 'they are not real so it's fine' the problem with that is, that 2D girls are just as important to me as real ones (or much more important actually)

When I come here for escapism I don't want to open /so/ or /ot/ and immediately be welcomed by some loli getting her limbs hacked off. Christ, even people into hentai post it on /ns/. So, when I have to see that shit it is the same to me as when Ford Drivers or I guess you see real people being mutilated. 2D girls are the most important thing to me, so, imagine the person you love the most, your mother, or whoever. Now imagine some guy loves posting her being mutilated.

Now, we are all horrible as human beings, so, I guess I shouldn't be shocked that people like this kind of stuff, and I'm not trying to come across as 'holier than thou' but still please that shit is really disturbing and disgusting for people who (really) love 2D. I have to ask though, why 2D? Do you just not care about it I guess? So long that it doesn't exist it's fine?

>>15045
>It's the things that aren't real that this site is all about.

Exactly.

Post edited on 2nd Jun 2013, 3:38pm

>>15048
You know a lot of the guys on /mai/ would take offense to you calling their waifu not real right? or posting guro of them and trying to call it okay on the bases of being 'not real'

>subhumans like you shouldn't be allowed to lay eyes on 2D, because it is disrespectful
Because looking at a 2D is comparable to masturbating to them being brutally tortured?

Post edited on 2nd Jun 2013, 1:40pm

>>15050
>As someone into escapism and 2D it is just as painful to see a little 2D girl being mutilated as it is a real one.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>15052
You haven't been around this site very long have you?

>>15051
>You know a lot of the guys on /mai/ would take offense to you calling their waifu not real right?
No. They - don't - fucking - care. Most people on /mai/ understand their beloved isn't real. Loving someone who isn't real is justified here.

>or posting guro of them and trying to call it okay on the bases of being 'not real'
We are not talking about posting guro. We are talking about is fapping to guro wrong or not.

>Because looking at a 2D is comparable to masturbating to them being brutally tortured?
Then argue why they aren't comparable. It's not my burden to try find arguments for your idiotic statements.

>>15050
Point of escapism is to understand fundamental difference between reality and fiction. People who fap to the guro are into escapism too.

Sure you probably don't like playing video games were people are getting killed or anime where 2D characters are getting punched, kicked, shot and killed. Right?

>As someone into escapism and 2D it is just as painful to see a little 2D girl being mutilated as it is a real one.
Sure you are entitled to have your own opinion. I don't like guro either and I think it is good it's against rules in here. Problem is, when someone tries to moralize actions of others, because they do something which he doesn't like it.

>>15054
>No. They - don't - fucking - care. Most people on /mai/ understand their beloved isn't real. Loving someone who isn't real is justified here.

You still don't get it. It's not real, but I still care about. i.e it doesn't exist but I love it nonetheless. You are assuming like an idiot that I am claiming that 2D is real. It's not real but it is still important to me. So stop posting pics of things that are important to very many people here getting mutilated and tortured, there are other websites for that.

>We are not talking about posting guro. We are talking about is fapping to guro wrong or not.

Fap to guro all you want just stop fucking posting it and shoving it in our faces and worst of all trying to justify yourself and act like guro is the same as any other fetish.

>Problem is, when someone tries to moralize actions of others, because they do something which he doesn't like it.

On the contrary I believe all people are equally shitty and there is no use getting worked up because people do shitty things. But 1: I don't want to see that shit here 2: I hate it when people compare guro to something like loli, and try to act like guro isn't sick at all (If that gets you off fine whatever, but it is still a more extreme fetish and disturbing for people who like 2D or cute things at all)

A+++++ discussion, would read again.

>>15054
>We are not talking about posting guro. We are talking about is fapping to guro wrong or not.
Since when? I've said it many times now. Keep it to yourself. In case you have a reading comprehension problem that means you can fap to it all you want just don't upload/post it in public places. In other words keep it to yourself. You wouldn't tell your friends and family you masturbate to little girls being murdered right?

>It's not my burden...
This is exactly what people say when they can't defend their position. Might as well just say "fuck you, I ain't gotta prove SHIT!!"

Are you really that incapable of defending guro without pointing to trying to copout to loli? That's the logic of a little kid who wants a toy but his mom wont buy it for him so he crys and whines something like 'well jimmy's mom bought him one!' guess what, I don't care what his mom bought him you aren't getting one. loli has nothing to do with this, own up to your fucked up interests and stop trying to pass the blame.

>>15056
>it doesn't exist but I love it nonetheless.
Then accept you can't own fictional content. If you get mad because someone enjoys fiction in way you DON'T LIKE, you are the responsible for getting insulted. Why everyone should do like you want?

>Fap to guro all you want just stop fucking posting it and shoving it in our faces and worst of all trying to justify yourself and act like guro is the same as any other fetish.
I've never fapped to guro and I never will. My problem is that people who are trying to moralize other's enjoyment. Obviously you are the ones who is forcing his own ideas. "Stop doing something to MY LITTLE GIRLS which I DON'T LIKE. You are doing it WRONG." By your standards everyone should stop writing on this board, because there is and always will be something which someone doesn't like.

>I hate it when people compare guro to something like loli, and try to act like guro isn't sick at all
1) I don't think anyone has claimed guro isn't sick.
2) I still haven't gotten answer why enjoying guro is wrong, bad or immoral

Unless being sick = wrong.

>>15059
>Since when?
Since >>15041 said
>I'll put this bluntly, you're fucking sick. A horrible person on multiple levels

>In case you have a reading comprehension problem that means you can fap to it all you want just don't upload/post it in public places. In other words keep it to yourself.
Still my problem is how people are trying to moralize when someone enjoys something, of course without arguments. "You are horrible person" is not an argument.

>This is exactly what people say when they can't defend their position. Might as well just say "fuck you, I ain't gotta prove SHIT!!"
Person claiming guro is sick and person who enjoys it is sick, holds the burden of proof.

>Are you really that incapable of defending guro without pointing to trying to copout to loli?
I am not defending guro, retard.

Post edited on 3rd Jun 2013, 6:11am

>>15069
You're masturbating to little girls getting tortured mutilated raped and tortured! of course no one is going to give an argument why that makes you are horrible person. If you can't understand how that makes you a horrible person and need someone to explain it to you that only makes you a even more horrible person. Seriously, hack your own legs off. Seems you're so dense nothing sort of someone coming to your house to rape and torture you would make you understand whats wrong with it. Yeah you're still a fucking sick horrible person on multiple levels so keep that shit to yourself.

guro IS sick. As I said, saying using burden of proof only means you can't defend your position. There's no 'burden of proof' when you're stating a cold hard fact. If anything 'the burden of proof' rests on you. It's pretty much unanimously agreed upon around the workd that torturing raping and murdering little girls is seriously fucked up (unless you're in a country that's pretty fucked up in itself). yet here you are claiming it's not. Go to your local mall for a day and ask random people if they think masturbating to little girls getting tortured mutilated raped tortured and murdered is sick or wrong. I seriously doubt you'll find a single person who says it's not.

Just accept you're into some fucked up shit and keep it to yourself. How many times do I have to say it before you'll understand? It's a ridiculous simple concept.

If you don't think there's anything wrong with little girls getting tortured mutilated raped and tortured, what DO you think is wrong or sick?

Post edited on 3rd Jun 2013, 11:39am

>>15075

those things are wrong and it is disgusting when they happen. fortunately nobody is harmed in guro drawings because they are drawings so who gives a fuck

>>15077
>they are drawings so who gives a fuck
Why are you here at this website if that's what you believe?

>>15078

I love anime girls but I'm not going to pretend that some guy drawing pictures of them getting beheaded or whatever is any way shape or form the same as it actually happening to real people.

>>15075
So basically 'guro is bad because I don't like it'. Fabulous argumentation. Only thing which outshines your lack of argumentation skills, is your lack of ability to read. I've said multiple times in this thread, I don't like guro or I don't fap to guro, but still you attack against me.

>If you don't think there's anything wrong with little girls getting tortured mutilated raped and tortured, what DO you think is wrong or sick?
Who is getting hurt? I mean others than some sensitive young boy's feeling who is trying to fit in?

>>15078
You are the one who has misunderstood purpose of this site and 2D-escapism. Stop trying to fit in. That's just pathetic.

>>15080
Jesus Christ you never give up do you. Look just stop posting it and shoving it in our faces and everything is fine. The fact that you are shocked that people here hold 2D extremely highly and importantly to the point of what most people consider insanity just shows how ignorant and unaware you are. Seriously go on /mai/, their waifu is literally the most important person to them. I get your point with the 'no one gets harmed' thing, that doesn't change the fact that we are seeing things we love being tortured, drawings or not. It's just as bad as someone posting drawings of cats being tortured. (It's also really ironic that somewhere else on /so/ people are bitching about a cat being declawed and then we have this thread but whatever) Are you proud of looking at guro or something? Why can't you just fap to it if you must, and then not feel the need to defend it when someone says it makes them sick? Almost all things humans do are wrong, so I have no right to say 'stop fapping to guro' but I can tell you to stop making me have to see it. I get now that reality is more important to you than 2D and 2D is just your next escapism form of entertainment with no meaning whatsoever so fuck it let's draw cute girls from that world being mutilated and fucked in the eye because it's totally hardcore, but come on. For example those loli guro gifs a while back, that just ruined my fucking week when I first saw it. There are other websites for this.

This is not only directed at you I understand that you don't look at guro. This is directed at everyone who looks at it or for some reason goes bat shit insane defending it.

>>15082
Jokes on you I didn't click it.

>>15080
>You are the one who has misunderstood purpose of this site and 2D-escapism. Stop trying to fit in. That's just pathetic.
Who are you to say what is the purpose of this site and 2D-escapism?

>>15082
Motherfucker you're lucky another mod found this first and banned you.

The only thing that disgusts me more than Ford Drivers are hypocritical double standards of people who are in a perfect position to realize what's wrong with the Ford Drivers' approach and yet make arbitrary decisions that are in no way different than the ones they claim to despise.

>>15056

>I hate it when people compare guro to something like loli, and try to act like guro isn't sick at all

Wait, are you trying to tell me loli isn't sick? Hopefully I'm missing something here. Personally, I think it's every bit as disgusting as guro.
Then again what other people get off to is none of my business; I just hope you realize that if there's a 'sick porn vs vanilla' argument and it's between 'us' and 'them' you are certainly among 'them'. But again, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that (although it does make me feel kinda sick, but I realize that's just my biased subjective perspective).

>>15090
1: The point of 2D not being 3D is not 'omg they arentz realz so itz ok' it's the fact that 2D little girls act and even look very different from 3D ones, you always have those doujins that are more realistic than others unfortunately, but the loli is usually willing to have sex, and sometimes it's even a shota having sex with her. And I hate rape doujins of loli. The loli usually enjoys it, and there is very very little pain involved, compared to fucking her eyes out or whatever.

2: I am not telling you to stop liking guro I am telling you to fucking stop posting it here. A lot of the mods, userbase, and even the site admin is disgusted by guro. If you don't like that you can leave.

3: OK here is the part that proves you are the biggest fucking retard to ever exist: No, loli is not some holy Jesus approved fap material, but, fucking having sex is incomparable to skinning her, ripping her guts out, fucking her in the eye, eating her, and all that shit. If you like it fine, not claiming to be holier than thou. Just stop posting it. Loli is cute it is meant to portray innocence, yes one could argue the whole sexual situation is messed up, but that is nothing compared to all the mutilating shit. It's just like in fucking America where everyone is OK with overthetop violence but oh noes sexual contentz yes there are messed up loli doujins that feel the need to portray things in a realistic 3Dish way, and I hate these.

4: So now you not only prove you are the biggest retard but the biggest asshole on here. Someone gets banned for posting the gif so now Mr. Hardcore guts and gore has gotta prove how cool he is by posting yet more gifs. You are just a bully, you love seeing cute things in pain, you love being an asshole and provoking people, and you are swarming with that 4chan mentality. And I'm not the only claiming you guess just came from 4chan either.

You are probably just going to come up with some half assed argument and continue being an asshole instead of simply looking at guro somewhere else, once again if that is your fetish than whatever, just don't post it here it doesn't belong here. Then again one of you is going to be banned

Edit: Once again the person I'm replying to isn't the only person this post is directed at, for example the '4chan mentality' comment is more so directed at the guy who loves getting banned and the guy who is quoting nobody with greentext.

Post edited on 4th Jun 2013, 11:17am

>>15093

>1: The point of 2D not being 3D is not 'omg they arentz realz so itz ok' it's the fact that 2D little girls act and even look very different from 3D ones, you always have those doujins that are more realistic than others unfortunately, but the loli is usually willing to have sex, and sometimes it's even a shota having sex with her. And I hate rape doujins of loli. The loli usually enjoys it, and there is very very little pain involved, compared to fucking her eyes out or whatever.

Consent hardly matters to me, it's having sex with children that bothers me.

>2: I am not telling you to stop liking guro I am telling you to fucking stop posting it here.

Good, because I despise it. Really, now that I think about it's actually even worse than loli.
Never really said anything about posting it on the site, it's just that I'm deeply distrubed by the fact that you're desperately trying to take moral highground here while you get off to doujins depiciting sex with children.
If it would be my call to make I would get rid of both but Tohno is the admin here so he will decide what he wants to do with that.

>3: OK here is the part that proves you are the biggest fucking retard to ever exist

By the way, just so you know, >>15090 was my first reply in this thread. And calling someone a retard right off the bat doesn't really improve your credicbility.

>Loli is cute it is meant to portray innocence

Which is precisely why it's disgusting. You and your 'the purer it is the more fun it is to defile it' buddies need to fuck off real bad. Leave my Yotsubas, Ika Musumes, PreCures etc. alone.
... I just said that guro is more disgusting but let me take that back: there's no need to make any distinction, both are sick.

>4: So now you not only prove you are the biggest retard but the biggest asshole on here. Someone gets banned for posting the gif so now Mr. Hardcore guts and gore has gotta prove how cool he is by posting yet more gifs. You are just a bully, you love seeing cute things in pain, you love being an asshole and provoking people, and you are swarming with that 4chan mentality. And I'm not the only claiming you guess just came from 4chan either.

Projection 101. Been here since ib4f by the way.

>Edit: Once again the person I'm replying to isn't the only person this post is directed at

Well, it looks like you are the retard here. Just so we understand each other clrealy, here's a TL;DR:
Guro and loli is equally sick and best case scenario both you and guro lovers would fuck off, worst case scenario you both stay. Me, I'll just hide the guro/loli threads and call it a day.

>>15095

>Been here since ib4f by the way.

and I wish you weren't

>>15095
>Consent hardly matters to me, it's having sex with children that bothers me.

No one posts loli here anyways since Tobo is scared of the feds.

>Which is precisely why it's disgusting. You and your 'the purer it is the more fun it is to defile it' buddies need to fuck off real bad. Leave my Yotsubas, Ika Musumes, PreCures etc. alone.

I just said a hundred million times that I am not trying to come across as holier than thou. I can see your point of view on the loli but no one posts loli here anyways so calm your shit. If someone were to come on /so/ and start posting loli then you can complain. Also sex doesn't automatically equal violation why are you assuming loli always has to be non consensual or rape.

>Projection 101. Been here since ib4f by the way.

Once again that wasn't directed at you but at these: >>15092 >>15094 >>15091 idiots.

>Well, it looks like you are the retard here. Just so we understand each other clrealy, here's a TL;DR:

Editing my post makes me a retard?

>Guro and loli is equally sick and best case scenario both you and guro lovers would fuck off, worst case scenario you both stay. Me, I'll just hide the guro/loli threads and call it a day.

The only time one of the two stay is when the userbase generally likes one of the two. Both loli and guro don't get posted here though, or the people that post it are going against the rules. I can see your point of view how loli is bad but I still think comparing it someone getting their guts ripped out and tortured is ridiculous. I guess people are just too desensitized to violence. Guro can be mentally scarring for some people, and can ruin their whole weeks. I know loli probably disgusts you but has it seriously mentally scarred you? But then all these retards trying to bully us by posting all this shit are just OK? A loli has consensual sex and it's disgusting but a loli gets a giant spike shoved up her vagina and the intestines come out and loli is just as bad? What? What the fuck am I missing? Once again not claiming loli is a 'pure' fetish but I admit I'm messed up, and don't post it on places it doesn't belong.

Post edited on 4th Jun 2013, 11:54am

>>15097

>No one posts loli here anyways since Tobo is scared of the feds.

I'm aware of that.

>I am not trying to come across as holier than thou.

That's all the only thing I see in this thread, though.

>Even if it's a pornography site, there are some things no one in their right mind want to see and find deeply disturbing and traumatizing.
>It's completely moronic to compare a loli being fucked to a loli being mutated and tortured to death.
>which would you or any sane person pick?
>You should at least learn how to keep your sick twisted desires to yourself.
>I'll put this bluntly, you're fucking sick. A horrible person on multiple levels.
>worst of all trying to justify yourself and act like guro is the same as any other fetish.
>I hate it when people compare guro to something like loli, and try to act like guro isn't sick at all
>You're masturbating to little girls getting tortured mutilated raped and tortured! of course no one is going to give an argument why that makes you are horrible person.
>Yeah you're still a fucking sick horrible person on multiple levels
>guro IS sick.

I'll just stop here, I got bored. Didn't even list half of them.

>>15097

>Editing my post makes me a retard?

Grouping me together with them does. You quote my post, reply to me and then proceed to say it's got nothing to do with me. You don't sound very bright to me.

>I know loli probably disgusts you but has it seriously mentally scarred you?

People who sexualize cute little girls sicken me and make me angry. Wouldn't call it a 'mental scar' but sometimes it's just enough to ruin my day.

>But then all these retards trying to bully us by posting all this shit are just OK?

Never said that, the only thing I've got a problem with are your moral double standards.

>>15098
1: Who are you quoting
2: Stop putting words in my mouth
3: It is no moral double standard to think sex is much less shocking than someone torturing someone ripping their intestines out whatever. Guro has a much darker and extremer tone to it, focuses more on dominance and suffering, focuses on the main character getting gratification from pain, focuses on the insides and all the nice little details. Of course this generation probably watches Saw and Hostel once a day so I guess that is just an everyday thing to most people.

>>15099

>Who are you quoting

Use Ctrl+F please.

>Stop putting words in my mouth

That's what you're doing, tough. Not just to me from what I've seen (for example >>15080).

>It is no moral double standard to think sex is much less shocking than someone torturing someone ripping their intestines out whatever

I fail to see calling somebody 'sick' because he has a weird fetish while you yourself get off to loli as anything but a double standard.

>>15100
>Use Ctrl+F please.

I thought you were trying to quote me sorry, because a lot of the things you listed where not said by me. I'm not the only person in this thread going against guro.

>I fail to see calling somebody 'sick' because he has a weird fetish while you yourself get off to loli as anything but a double standard.

I already said I'm sick. I do think these are two very different things though. Well this just gets deeper into my believes but I think all humans are equally sick, non the less the desire to take something and mutilate it and have no emotional reaction to seeing it in pain bothers me, but I simply accept that this is another reason life is messed up and that it can't be helped, so long as I don't have to see it. I feel warm, fuzzy, nice, and you could almost say a feeling of love with loli. From what I understand guro gives you a feeling of dominance and sadistic pleasure.

>>15101

>I thought you were trying to quote me sorry, because a lot of the things you listed where not said by me. I'm not the only person in this thread going against guro.

And a lot of them were.

>I feel warm, fuzzy, nice, and you could almost say a feeling of love with loli. From what I understand guro gives you a feeling of dominance and sadistic pleasure.

You're doing it again by the way.

>>15080
>So basically 'guro is bad because I don't like it'. This isn't a personal thing, plenty of people are outright disgusted by guro. If it was just me against the massive I'd ignore it, but it's the other way around. It's the few who enjoy it and the many who don't.
Why torturing and murdering children is bad should be self evident. As such I'm not sure how to explain to you how it's bad. Not understanding whats wrong with it already shows me you have no sense of morality so I can't appeal to that. For all I know you might be someone who enjoys cutting yourself so I'm not even sure if I can get you to understand how pain is a bad thing. This feels like trying to convince a psychopathic mass murdered that what he's doing is wrong. I can't explain to you how a self evident truth is wrong if there's nothing to compare or contrast it to. You still haven't told me what you think is wrong. Explaining to someone who doesn't understand what is wrong with torturing mutilating and murdering children, what is wrong with it would be like explaining color to a blind person. If you can't see whats wrong with it, nothing I or anyone else can say will ever change that.

>>15104

Drawings don't feel pain.

1: Guro is banned/set to be banned on TC. Offenders will be given warnings of even outright bans for posting content of such a nature. Guro is defined as any 2D image containing graphic or excessive amounts of inflicted pain, imagery of anatomically correct dismemberment, death, or torture, regardless of pornographic appeal or not. This means that scene from Episode 3 of Madoka as well as those isometric loli torture machine gifs (which personally made me throw up and not get sleep for several days and also apparently made a lot of Reddit and Tumblr hate not only all anime, but an entire country as well). This does not include 2D characters bleeding from cuts or pulling out hangnails.

2: this is justified by the fact that TC is a small, niche site. The majority of the regular users do not wish to see this content. The moderation will reflect those wishes. TC does not protect the rights of free speech, but it does protect a central mission which is created by the wishes of the core niche of end-users and like-minded newcomers.

3: if you want to see something posted online, either to to the plenty of sites devoted to that content or start your own. TC was made because it was an alternative to another site. This isn't a country. You don't need a passport to leave. You don't need a permission slip to go somewhere else. You probably have a web browser with tabs. Go to another tab and load a site where you are free to peruse such content.

4: Observing the first three points, there is little room to deny this: The only reason to post guro to TC is to be inflammatory (trolling) towards the majority of the site, and trolling is against the rules.



Personally? I hate guro. But I don't want to be, or approve of others, going to guro sites and posting moral shit there. So why should it be forced here?

TC is for 2D love. Personally I even treat certain characters as Haruhilike-entities. Even to the point of risking blasphemy and enshrining a couple. Shinto tenets allow for this. You could say a lot of us make heterodimensional love a pseudo-religious outlook. So look at it this way: you wouldn't go to Saudi Arabia and enter a mosque to eat bacon and draw Muhammad getting assraped by Allah with a razor machine on the minarets. It's disrespectful and you have many other places you can do that, including the privacy of your home. The only reason you would do it is to piss someone off.

>>15105
Isn't that exactly what guro fans want out of it? They clearly do feel pain, they scream and beg for mercy and flat out say it hurts. You can tell they're obviously in pain.

Even if they were all drugged up and couldn't feel anything that doesn't change what is being done to them. stabbing yourself is still stabbing yourself weather or not you feel it.

Post edited on 4th Jun 2013, 2:50pm

>>15107

...there's no way you're really this delusional. It's just not possible.

>>15109
Actually we were thinking the same thing about you guys. He is simply saying that people who fap to guro like to see the reactions of pain and suffering, they like to see the character in explicit pain with elaborate detail. If you can't even admit that is true...

What exactly is real? Would you call it wrong to masturbate to 'real' children being tortured and mutilated? why? just like with the 2D guro here it's not actually real. Nothing on our screens is. If you're going to dismiss 2D guro as nothing more than drawings, I can just as easily dismiss live guro as lit up led dots on a screen. Just as with 2D guro I wouldn't be doing the people any physical harm. I'd be nothing more than an observer getting joy from witnessing the suffering of others.

Effigys have existed for hundreds of years, long before anime has ever been around. so has the act of destroying them (famously burning them) to symbolize a people or people's feelings. These are things created by people to express their very strong emotions. you can't just shit over that and claim they're just dolls/statues/whatever and it doesn't mean anything.

Every time you call it not real or just drawings you sound exactly like a normal-fag who can't accept 2D love because they aren't real women. To reference Genshiken. A simple is associated with a human face smiling when it's nothing more than two dots and a curved line.
Your subconscious is seeing what it wants to see. In this case you're seeing kids getting tortured and enjoying it. You're only kidding yourself when you use the cheap excuse that it's only a drawing, you can't face the facts of what you enjoy. They might be 'drawings' but it's what they represent that matter not what they literally are. To call 2D guro okay becuase they're just drawings is no better than calling 3D guro okay on the bases they're just atoms. The idea of enjoying children being tortured is the problem not the medium it's on. likewise a news paper article reporting on some horrific event shouldn't be judged by the quality of the paper or the ink used, it's the message that matters. You wouldn't watch a news story on a cereal rapist and judge it based on the type of tv it's on would you? or what if they held up a artist's rendering of the perpetrator and his acts, would that be invalid becuase it's a drawing?

The people (person) spamming guro in this thread only serves to prove my earlier point about how they are stick people who can't keep it to themselves. As I said before they're sick disgusting people on multiple levels. Not only because of the guro they enjoy but because they make us (real people) suffer for their amusement as they force us to view things they know make us sick. watching a video of someone (real or not) being tortured alone in your basement might not actually hurt anyone, but spamming guro does. It hurts people emotionally and in some cases physically as it can cause some people to become physically ill at it's sight and even lead to vomiting in some cases. which is not a very present experience.

>>15110

He responded to someone saying "drawings don't feel pain" with "no, they clearly do."

That's nutty even by /tc/ standards.

So...in a nutshell, guro fetishists started raging because not everyone enjoyed guro, spammed guro where it doesn't belong, stated that they're above lolicons (for some contrived reason, since nobody is posting lolicon), and got all bent out of shape and started hypocritically calling people "elitist" and "holier-than-thou" for telling them that guro images don't belong here.

What the fuck? Reminds me of that really old copypasta about furries and their tendency to try to force their fetish down everyone's throat and then bitch about it when people tell them to leave.

>>15113
Pretty much, although there was one guy who claimed not to be into guro but did the white knight thing and took offense on behalf of guro fans when called sick fucks.

>>15114
You know the fact that you are a ban evading asshole who enjoys spamming pics that make people feel bad doesn't help yours or anyone in this thread that is on your sides case. Then again you are probably getting off to our suffering, right?

>>15106
Couldn't have put it any better myself.

>>15106
Banning NSFW violent art on an SFW board is fine, but posting screencaps of violent anime should be allowed at least on /an/. Maybe you could mandate spoilering nsfw and stating that's what the spoiler is for if you were really anal about it, but outright banning posting anime screenshots on an anime board is retarded and counterproductive to discussion.

It's pretty disappointing to see so many new posts on the front page before realizing people are still arguing about this dumb shit.

>>15119
Thanks for pointing that out. your post made everything here better.

>>15106
But I remember you posting one of those .gifs a while back.

Hi >>15041, >>14645 here.

I, first and foremost, must apologize for causing such a massive derail, as it was not my intention to do so. Really, I had no way of knowing that the one post I made in this thread would generate such a massive, malice-filled argument. I was under the impression that this was a thread where people were invited to vent their grievances about the people around them, and I believe there was some misunderstanding on my end. I was in no way trying to claim that I was being persecuted. And in no way would ever think of posting guro where it isn't wanted. And for that matter I rarely post here at all and only really lurk, much less went out of my way to post (unwanted) pornography on this site.

I can, however, see why you might have thought that I would do that. But I believe you misunderstood me so let me clarify. I was merely venting about the moral hypocrisy that people on Gelbooru and Exhentai display in flaming images they don't like. As both Gelbooru and Exhentai are both sites that were created to host images that would not fly on the more vanilla versions of their site, I find it funny that people who are masturbating to things that are unwanted would then go on to complain about other people's fetishes in that type of environment. These being the same people that would often argue that their fetishes are okay because it is all fictional. But will go against their own argument and say that a portrayal of something they find morally offensive is wrong and shouldn't be allowed on a site that is already an alternative. And in some extreme cases? Shouldn't be allowed to be drawn at all. And, no, I am in no way comparing the two and saying that it was the same, as it isn't about the content itself. I could replace 'guro' with 'tentacle rape' (and for that matter, perhaps I should have) and would still be making the same point. I find it absolutely disgusting that people are willing to bend their own morals to drag others through the mud and then defend themselves with the same moral code that they just broke. As if it is something they can change when it is most convenient to them. And this is something that a lot of the people that you claim to 'hate' do.

And nothing is ever properly tagged, you should know this by now. Nothing is more heartbreaking than getting some unexpected NTR when you expecting a nice story about peace, love, and sex in the pooper. But rather than post a massive, attention-seeking tirade about how people who like what I don't like are objectively worst than Hitler -and, quite often, spamming even properly tagged archives and images with the same rant- I merely close the tab, perhaps leaving a small comment asking the poster to tag the archive properly.

Really, we're talking about two sides of the same coin here. You hate people who shove their fetishes in other people's faces. And I hate people who shove their morals into other peoples faces.

And lastly, might I just say something blunt (and should I go too far, the mods certainly have the right to ban my ass, I will not object), as you have done as well. You accuse me of liking to hurt and torture people over the internet and yet you called me a horrible human being without even knowing anything about me. Which is another thing I hate. That people are quick to assume that one act, or interest, or hobby, etc. etc. are all that is needed to define a human being as 'good' or 'evil.' As a great person or the scum of society. When, often, that is not the case. I don't like hurting other people's feelings, even over the internet. And for that matter, have never been the violent type. I have never even so much as struck a human being. I cry when I hear news of natural disasters. And, ironically, can find the same things that I might find arousing to be very disturbing depending on the context, and might even be disgusted in myself for being aroused to some material after the fact. I can say, with utmost confidence, that I am certainly not the horrible monster you make me out to be. Even if I am far from being a saint.

And yet, you were so quick to judge me like others almost certainly have judged you in the past. You have the nerve to complain about humanity. As though you are somewhat better than the rest of them. That you may be a sick puppy, but at least you aren't as sick as that puppy. And I hate that. I hate it when people that comfort themselves by casting insults and derogatory remarks at others. Who hate when people condemn them and then turn around to cast the first stone. Like the rest of them, you love to hurt other people to feed your ego.

You're no different from the rest of them. And you hate that about yourself. Well, anon, you know what? I hate that about you too. I don't, however, hate you. And am sure that such a malicious and hurtful remark about me is in no way indicative of who you are as a person and that you are a wonderful human being.

>>15122
As it's been pointed out a number of times in this thread already, you can't compare loli to guro. One is clearly worse than the other since one essentially is the other but more extreme.
No one here is saying loli is okay, but a naked little girl isn't as bad as the same naked little girl getting a forced amputation and a blowtorch to the face.

Tentacle rape however can be more questinable, it has a tendancy to go both ways. sometimes tenteial rape is little more than a bunch of long dildos pleasuring a girl, other times it involes disgusting monsters that rip their ways into girls as they impregnate them with Haruhi knows what or disintegrate/ingest them all together. I doubt people who don't like guro would enjoy tentacle rape -if- it involved seriously injuring the people involved. This isn't really bending their own morals to drag others through the mud. I think it's pretty easy the draw the line at body parts being removed. I also think most people would agree that be it an saw blade or a tentical if it's removing their arms they're both forms of guro. show me a guro hater who enjoys brutal and violent types of tentical rape and I will gladly call him a hypocrite for you.

I'm not sure if Hitler ever masturbated to children being tortured. He might have for all I know but I think Gilles de Rais would be a much better comparison.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilles_de_Rais#Child_killer


>Really, we're talking about two sides of the same coin here. You hate people who shove their fetishes in other people's faces. And I hate people who shove their morals into other peoples faces.
You do realize they shove their morals into other peoples faces becuase people shove their fetishes in other people's faces.
or on the other side of the coin, if you didn't shove your fetish in their face they wouldn't shove their morals in yours. There are places specifically for guro such as gurochan. Anyone who goes out of their way to preach about their morals in a place like that would indeed be an idiot. but in a large public place it shouldn't be unexpected. To compare it to NTR makes me think you don't fully grasp how much guro bothers people... unless NTR makes you vomit at the sight of it and have nightmares for days to come as you try to forget what you saw?

>you called me a horrible human being without even knowing anything about me
I know you masturbate to children being horribly tortured. I think most would call that enough to call someone else a horrible human being. and yes I'd say that's enough to call someone a evil person as well. If it turned out gandhi masturbated to children being tortured I and many others I'm sure wouldn't hesitate to call him a really fucked up person for it. you're right that on the scale between good and evil single bad actions here and there wont tip the scales very much. stealing a candybar might about to little more than a pebble on the scale of evil deeds, but jerking off to kids getting tortured is like dropping a brick on the 'bad' side.

But... As you say not all of of can choose our form of fetishism. Mind isint exactly common and I've hated myself for it for at least half my life. Thing is, I usually keep it to myself. Although it does seem to annoy a few select type of people since it contradicts their own. It doesn't offend anyone to the point of making them sick at least, but I know it's something no one gives half a shit about so there's no point in sharing it with anyone. Guro fetishists do however have comrades they can share and discuss with, you should be glad you have sites dedicated to it along with places that are perfectly fine with it and might even have sections of the site for it. I could search for days on hentai sites and not find anything related to mine. Can't you be satisfied what you have and keep it to yourself on your websites made specifically for you and your comrades?

I fail to see how that is an accurate comparison. I am currently unable to summon shoggoths and have never been infatuated with a Frenchwoman.

>>15111

>They might be 'drawings' but it's what they represent that matter not what they literally are. To call 2D guro okay becuase they're just drawings is no better than calling 3D guro okay on the bases they're just atoms. likewise a news paper article reporting on some horrific event shouldn't be judged by the quality of the paper or the ink used, it's the message that matters. You wouldn't watch a news story on a cereal rapist and judge it based on the type of tv it's on would you? or what if they held up a artist's rendering of the perpetrator and his acts, would that be invalid becuase it's a drawing?

This will take the 'most delusional statement of the month' award, no doubt about it.
Hope you never killed anybody in any way in any game, no matter whether it was shooting somebody ina na FPS or stomping on a Haruhidamn Goomba in a Mario game. Otherwise you're a digusting sick psycho who enjoys murder.

>>15115

>Pretty much, although there was one guy who claimed not to be into guro but did the white knight thing and took offense on behalf of guro fans when called sick fucks.

That's me (and two other guys) and while I have no problems with people saying people who enjoy guro are sick I'm downright disgusted by people who claim loli is any better.

>>15123

>As it's been pointed out a number of times in this thread already, you can't compare loli to guro.

Pretty sure you can, not very hard to a vanilla lover.

>One is clearly worse than the other since one essentially is the other but more extreme.

Saying '[x] is worse than loli' is like asking 'what's north from the (magnetic) north pole?'. When you cross some line there's no longer any need to differentiate. Both are disgusting and that's the only thing that really matters here.

>I'm not sure if Hitler ever masturbated to children being tortured.

... Oooh, you're one of those guys. Makes me regret I ever bothered to type anything at all.

why does this thread even still exist

>>15127
Because people keep posting in it.

>>15127
Why wouldn't it?

>>15125
What is it with you and trying to compare loli to guro? No one here is saying loli is okay (in itself). but it's an indisputable fact that it IS better than guro since guro IS loli in many cases but with more fucked up things added on.
copied from >>15123
>No one here is saying loli is okay, but a naked little girl isn't as bad as the same naked little girl getting a forced amputation and a blowtorch to the face.
You might as well compare stealing a candy bar to stealing a car.
You have no right to call anyone else delusional if you think they're the same thing.

Whats next, are you going to tell me guro is okay becuase some people who don't like it do drugs? Unless you can point out one single person on any board of this entire website posting loli you should just drop it already. There has however been a lot of guro posted (and deleted) in this thread already.

>>15121
I posted a thread ABOUT one of the gifs(which was actually posted in here once), asking if anyone else felt the same way about 2D death as I did. A lot of people responded yes.

>>15130

Do you have problems with reading comprehension? I explained it already.

>Saying '[x] is worse than loli' is like asking 'what's north from the (magnetic) north pole?'. When you cross some line there's no longer any need to differentiate. Both are disgusting and that's the only thing that really matters here.

Imagine a loli guro vore when the poor little girl is torn apart and her remains are fed to dogs afterwards. Know what I think about it? That'd it'd be the same if it was just guro. Or just loli. It'd be vile all the same.
Again, once you cross the line you crossed the point of no return and there is no longer any need to differentiate between bigger and lesser evils.
Arguing which is worse between loli and guro is like arguing which is shittier between horse shit and dog shit. In the end both are just that, shit.

>Unless you can point out one single person on any board of this entire website posting loli you should just drop it already.

What the hell does this even have to do with this discussion?

>>15133

>I posted a thread ABOUT one of the gifs(which was actually posted in here once), asking if anyone else felt the same way about 2D death as I did. A lot of people responded yes.

No, you posted the gif, told everybody it made you physically sick and asked about other /tc/ers opinion. This is the prime example of Shinden logic. Normal person would just try to forget about that gif, you saved it and made other people watch it.

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>>15127
Better question is why this board still exists. Whole board is full of wannabe normies and newcomers trying to fit in.

>>15141
I miss the old Tohno-chan when we would just take it easy all day.

>>15136
>What the hell does this even have to do with this discussion?
Thats my line. You keep bitching about loli but no one on this site is posting any.

I'm just gonna say it, you're an idiot. you can whine about my argumentative skills but there's no arguing with someone who doesn't respond to logic and has no common sense. You compare torturing children to looking at naked children and even "stomping on a Haruhidamn Goomba in a Mario game."

Listen we're talking about guro here. Guro is not stomping on goombas, guro is not loli, guro is not marijuana, guro is not piracy, guro is not a car, guro is not your keyboard, guro is not a tree, guro is not a hammer, guro is not a fish, guro is not Bacon, guro is not a subway car, guro is not your living room TV, guro is not your couch, guro is not the paint on your walls, guro is not a fan, guro is not an IRC channel, guro is not your high score in pong, guro is not a cash register, guro is not Chinese food, guro is not a submarine, guro is not beer, guro is not what you had for dinner, guro is not your tax return, guro is not a duck, guro is not the clock on your wall, guro is not you bank account, guro is not a candle, guro is not a coffee mug, guro is not a tennis ball, guro is not new york traffic, guro is not is not an advertisement, guro is not a battery, guro is not a movie, guro is not an award, guro is not water, guro is not a taxi, guro is not your bed, guro is not a pillow, guro is not a camera, guro is not your parents, guro is not your 3DPD, guro is not a hair dryer, guro is not a hot tub, guro is not summer, guro is not winter, guro is not a slinky, guro is not a transformer, guro is not a catchup packet, guro is not a teapot, guro is not your bathroom sink, guro is not a lightbulb, guro is not your medication, guro is not an accordion, guro is not a church, guro is not a snake, guro is not a taco, guro is not a lemon, guro is not a balloon, guro is not a hat, guro is not a banana, guro is not a giant robot, guro is not a magic spell, guro is not your sense of fashion, guro is not a brick, guro is not a stand up comedian, guro is not a roll of string, guro is not a toy monkey, guro is not a crow, guro is not a dragon, guro is not wine barrel, guro is not a sword, guro is not a videogame, guro is not a swimsuit, guro is not the moon, guro is not your neighbor's fucking dog. guro is guro. Guro is the act of brutally and mercilessness torturing raping and murdering people who are usually children. Nothing else has anything to do with this. Get that through your think skull already. What I or anyone else is, partakes in, or enjoys, does not change what guro is at all.
Unless you can defend Guro without Ad hominems or attacking unrelated things in general just shut the fuck up already for your own good, you're only making yourself look like more demented.

Are you really so desperate to get into arguments with people on the internet that you'd actually defend guro... by criticizing the people who don't like it? by drawing comparisons to completely different things no one is even posting? you're doing nothing but dodging the issue to the point that I can barely tell what it is you're arguing about anymore.
Why don't you go look for something less idiotic to go argue about?
rather than defending guro with 'well you like so and so!' or 'you're this and that!' I don't even like loli but I haven't said so till now becuase it doesn't matter weather I like or not. Guro is absolute disgusting evil and that's not up for debate. That doesn't change anything about guro and the people who enjoy/spam it and who can't understand why it bothers everyone else. here's a hint: it's not a matter of preference. If you honestly can't differentiate between torture and nudity, you're insane and need serious help.

Guro is sick fucked up shit.
People who like guro should keep it to themselves on their own websites.
Guro is banned on tohno-chan.
End of discussion.