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17893 No. 17893 [Edit]
What do you think about the popularization of "waifuism" over the Internet? I've been to a few places on the Internet where a waifu can just mean your favorite character or a source of inspiration, I'm wondering what you guys think of this. Do you believe that waifuism can take many forms and shapes that don't necessarily meet love's criteria?

I personally think saying waifuism can be having a favorite character is like saying love can be having a favorite person. I think most people who claim the latter don't really understand the way waifuism works, you can't say it only works one way because every person loves differently sure, that's a given... but you don't get to say it can be something else than loving an intangible concept just because the concept is intangible. I've seen some guy whose girlfriend asked him if he had a waifu, and he told her he didn't have an answer for her because he wasn't sure. He then asked her how she would react if he told her he had a waifu, to which she replied "I'd say it's about goddamn time. Don't you know I have a husbando?", and that's when it stopped making sense to me. (and also made me think his girlfriend was a hypocrite because I doubt she'd have been okay with him having feelings towards another concept if she herself didn't do the same thing, but that's for another day)

Apparently there are people out there who don't love a concept - 2d in that case - and already have a relationship with 3d people, yet choose to call characters who have inspired them waifus (or husbandos).

After I was done reading all this - and done being disgusted and amazed by the logic used in their reasoning - I had many questions pop in my head.

1. Is it okay to have a waifu if you're in a relationship with a 3d person?
2. Is it okay to call a character that only inspires you and towards which you might be infatuated a waifu?
3. Is it okay to say one can't say waifuism has an objective definition (though love has one, and waifuism is very alike to it)
4. What do you think of the scenario I've mentioned above?
5. Last but not least, it's a bit off-topic but do you think waifuism has a chance of spreading in modern society and becoming somewhat of a social trend? (I don't think nor am I saying it needs to and I'm strictly against it personally)
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>> No. 17894 [Edit]
1. If someone does it's clear they don't take it seriously.
2. Sure.
3. Sure.
4. Well, it seems like that in that scenario, both of those people weren't taking the concept seriously, and the fact that they are in a relationship confirms this. Seems like they don't love their waifu/husbando, but their 3d partner, they are in a relationship and openly discussing it with themselves after all...

>"I'd say it's about goddamn time. Don't you know I have a husbando?"
If they DID take having a waifu/husbando seriously this would be equivalent to cheating.

5. Nah, at least not in a serious sense.
>> No. 17895 [Edit]
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1. yes, like the persona above me explained
2. yes
3. yes
4. I think that's just people not taking it seriously. Which is fine as long as its not in a mocking way. When I was younger I called Haruhi my waifu but not because I loved her or anything but because she was my inspiration and it was kinda as a joke, but not in a mocking kind of way. It was more of a way to express my closeness to the character. (I only referred to her as that rarely anyway.)
5. I doubt it especially with the stigma that has been placed on it. People find it disgusting because of a few people doing weird stuff or they think everyone who has one is a loser, weirdo etc. Society cares too much about what others do.

Personally I think waifu can mean so many different things (even what I mentioned above and your story). I have a husbando but I don't consider it a real relationship like other have with theirs. Though I have considered making a tulpa and if I did that it would be a real relationship. As long as the person isn't mocking the idea I think you can call whatever you want a waifu. Once its in a mean way though its just being a troll. Thinking a waifu can only be what you think one is just seems egotistical or condescending. It is a form of love and love is different for everyone and also depending on who its with. Such as love of family is nothing like someone loving a wife or even loving a waifu can be a different sort of love than loving someone romantically 3D.

I'll note that I've called a few character my waifu/husbando but never have i felt a connection like i do with Kyousuke.

pic related cause i like showing off my husbando.
>> No. 17896 [Edit]
>>17895

You do make a point with your last sentence, and yeah I don't mean to be telling people how to love or how to live their lives when they're into waifuism. I'm all for the variety of definitions waifuism can have, what really got to me was how they were in a relationship with a 3d person yet both parties claimed they had a waifu/husbando. I can't in good conscience put myself in their shoes and imagine having another one beside my waifu, real or not because it goes against my [personal] definition of love. I'm sure a lot of people think like this, and a lot of people must be thinking like you - that as long as you have a form of love towards a 2d concept, regardless of whether it's romantic or not if I got you right - and that's alright, I just don't see how you can have two persons in your life at the same time when one is tangible and the other isn't when you're supposed to take them seriously - equally seriously, I mean. I don't disagree with the fact that love and waifuism have different shapes and forms, I guess I got angry at the lack of commitment that was demonstrated.
>> No. 17898 [Edit]
1. No.

2. If they're not actually in love with the character, I can't really understand why they'd use the term "waifu." Why not just call them a role model or something along those lines?

3. I honestly don't know. What it means to have a waifu varies from person to person, it's hard to know where to draw the line. On the other hand, you wouldn't call your best friend your wife. That doesn't diminish how you feel for your friend, but it's not the same thing.
Sorry I can't give you a better response for this, I really don't know the answer.

4. They sound like they don't take it seriously and just want to use a cutesy term for their favorite characters.

5. No. I think truly forming such a strong attachment to a fictional character is too rare to catch on in any broad sense.
>> No. 17899 [Edit]
>>17898

Your reply to the third question is exactly what I think. There are a lot of ways to love a concept, that's a given, but I've seen a lot of scenarios where people drive the term waifu (or husbando) out of its context and use it to design their favorite character as you've said or use it in a less serious context. Perhaps they make use of this term to be a part of this "culture", after all it's pretty deviant from social norms to be in love with an intangible concept. Waifuism is from my perspective no different than love towards an intangible concept, and yes there are many ways to love a concept as our perceptions of love are all different to an extent.
(it's not that I don't agree with the rest of what you've said - I do -, I just feel like you're 100% right about the third question, and a common misconception has grown around waifuism as a whole)
>> No. 17900 [Edit]
>>17899
>a common misconception has grown around waifuism as a whole

I've been wondering how to distance the serious people from the ones using it as a synonym for "favorite character." Do we try to create a new term, which may not catch on? Do we call ourselves waifuists, which sounds almost religious? It's hard using such a goofy term like "waifu" for something meant to be taken seriously, which is probably a big part of the reason there are so many misconceptions.

>Perhaps they make use of this term to be a part of this "culture", after all it's pretty deviant from social norms to be in love with an intangible concept

I will never understand people who want to fit in to a group as widely mocked as this one.
>> No. 17902 [Edit]
1.) I think this is something most will disagree with, but I will be honest and say that yes. It is possible.
2.) I used to do this, and it doesn't annoy me at all so yes. I'm with the others on this. Though I'll be honest that my passing usage of it lend to some confusion down the way but it's a big personal story there.
3.) Yes, and honestly I don't think 3d love really has a solid definition ether but this isn't the place to talk about that.
4.) While this may seem strange with what I said to your first question, I'll be honest and say I don't think ether of them take it seriously and just used the term for their favorite characters.
5.) I don't think so.
>> No. 17904 [Edit]
>>17896
Thats understandable. its all about personal preference after all.

This gave me an interesting idea though. What does everyone think of polyamory and waifuism? Either with multiple 2D or a 2D and a 3D (such as the story OP mentioned but if it were taken seriously). I mean everyone should love who and how they want if its consensual in my personal opinion but i could never do it 2D or 3D or any mix of the two. Thats just me though. What do you guys think? Is anyone on this board like that currently or have been in the past?

i hope this isn't pushing the whole no 3D rule because its about the 2D aspect of it.
>> No. 17905 [Edit]
>>17904

I could also never do both 3d and 2d. (or 3d as a matter of fact, but since we're speaking hypothetically we might as well assume)
Waifuism has many downsides, the main one being a lack of interaction. I can only see being in a relationship with a 2d and a 3d as seeking emotional fulfillment regardless of what it takes; you perceive the 2d concept as flawless - personality-wise at the very least - and complement the lack of physical contact and interaction with 3d. As someone said in this thread I just feel like in that case a waifu is just a cutesy term for favorite character, I'm personally against polyamory especially when it comes to 2d and 3d at the same time... isn't waifuism supposed to be inherently superior to 3d to whoever practices it? Why would you want a 3d person AND a 2d one at the same time if you were fully satisfied with one of them?
>> No. 17906 [Edit]
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Great to see you're all well still.

Well, I think the reason for this is that the definition for Waifuism is not specified. The best definition I can come up with that covers all these grounds is "The love between you, a 3D, and your Waifu/Husbando, a 2-D." It doesn't specify the type of love or in what sense you mean it. Love is used when referring to a (1)lover, (2)a friend, a relative. an idol or maybe even (3)a deity.(4) Love can also be used to describe "a great interest and pleasure in something". (5) Probably a few more definitions I didn't cover.
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(I'm pretty sure in one of these old threads called "Feelings of Unworthiness" there were a few people who didn't view themselves as in a romantic relationship with their waifus but rather admire/love them from a distance.) It really is all about perspective and varies from person to person(as stated by people over and over again) because the word "love" is too general/broad.

Anybody disagree?

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>> No. 17907 [Edit]
>>17906
I don't disagree. In fact, I agree.
>> No. 17908 [Edit]
>>17904
I don't think polyamory really works in any dimension. I doubt a person's capacity to truly, equally romantically love multiple people, or at least form a working relationship with them. 2D and 3D seems especially tenuous, since a 3D partner is much easier to interact with, thereby making it easier to maintain a strong relationship; 2D love takes a lot more effort on your own part. I'd think the 2D partner would inevitably fall away with time, in that scenario.

I couldn't do it, neither multiple 2D nor a mixture of 2D and 3D. I can't divide my loyalties like that, it would tear me up inside (as melodramatic as that sounds).

>>17906
I do agree that you don't necessarily have to see it as a relationship, I just call it a romantic attachment. Hopefully that's broad enough without diluting the term too much.
>> No. 17909 [Edit]
>>17904
To be honest, I'm a bit worried about discussing the 3D thing because I don't want to upset anybody simply visiting /mai/ to post about their waifu or husbando.

On 2D, for a while I thought I had two husbandos but it turned out with one of us it was best to just break it off. The feelings I had towards him weren't the same, and they were more based in lewdness than anything. However I don't think that makes those feelings less valid, and I do not have anything against people with more than one waifu but from what I've seen it's not a very popular concept on here. There is another character too who if anything, I'd say was the first husbando I ever had but while he still means a lot to me and helps me, there isn't really a romance there anymore. It's more of a friendship if you can make sense of that yet I also wouldn't want to call him an "ex".
>> No. 17910 [Edit]
>>17906

I don't disagree with the many "forms" of love you've mentioned, love is too big for us to fully cover and understand so we just have to do with our perception of it. However, I do believe that these forms all have varying degrees of commitment and devotion, which is obviously what separates them all - and people tend to get these degrees mixed. When you come to think of it, love's so board it's confusing to discuss. I didn't mean to claim in the OP that you can't love a 2d concept unless romantically, it just seemed heavily implied that the persons in the scenario had a completely different definition of waifuism than we - most of us at least - do.

Which brings up the following question: what is a waifu? While you might be able to look up to a 2d character and see it as an idol/higher example, I doubt you can call her/him a waifu/husbando. Waifuism has always been popular for romantic involvement with the intangible concepts that are 2d characters... I think it's very confusing to ask ourselves if the lack of romantic involvement prevents a concept from being a waifu.
>> No. 17912 [Edit]
>>17910
>I think it's very confusing to ask ourselves if the lack of romantic involvement prevents a concept from being a waifu

I see the romantic aspect as a necessary component. Why call a character your wife otherwise?
That's not to say you can't love a concept non-romantically, of course, but a different term would better serve those scenarios. Again, it'd be like calling your best friend your wife.
>> No. 17915 [Edit]
>>17912

Exactly why I said it's very confusing. I personally think it's more than essential to be able to call the concept your waifu.

>>17913

Perhaps because most people tend not to take waifuism seriously. There is an insane amount of people who take it as a joke and use the term for comical purposes, you can't hope to be able to reason with people who won't even try to take you seriously. I'm guessing that it resulted in people misinterpreting its definition.

Post edited on 9th Apr 2015, 6:56pm
>> No. 17916 [Edit]
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>>17912
I agree. The romance is needed or else it wouldn't be a waifu. it doesn't have to be a relationship per se but there still needs to be something romantic.


>>17913
I also some what agree with this as well. Though it doesn't bother me when people use the term waifu in a playful or joking way (probably because mine isn't as serious as most on this board)though when people mock or harass the term/people who have waifus I dislike it.
There's nothing you can really do about people using a term a different way. I think as long as you realize the bond you have with your waifu that's all that matters.

>>17908
I don't think 3D is easier, but I do think 2D takes more dedication, time, and effort. Which is why the idea of two waifus does sound over whelming. I can't imagine the lengths you'd have to go to. God Speed for anyone who does.
>> No. 17917 [Edit]
>>17915
I think for most romantic interest is there, it just may be not what is traditionally viewed as romantic. I've never seen it, but I feel it's possible for somebody to have a waifu they are not physically attracted to so they are unsure of using a word like "romantic".
>> No. 17919 [Edit]
>>17917
Well, romantic love doesn't necessarily need to involve sexual feelings, to my understanding. As long as they have emotional attraction, I'd say it qualifies.
>> No. 17920 [Edit]
>>17919
Yeah exactly, there are a few people here and there that don't realize that though.
>> No. 17921 [Edit]
>What do you think about the popularization of "waifuism" over the Internet?
It triggers my autism like fucking crazy.


1. Is it okay to have a waifu if you're in a relationship with a 3d person?
No.
2. Is it okay to call a character that only inspires you and towards which you might be infatuated a waifu?
I don't really know what you mean by this. Is it okay to call a character you see as motivation your waifu? The reason most people get angry over retards calling every other girl "mai waifu xD" is because they don't take it seriously. If you have strong (but not romantic) feelings for a character, I don't think there's a problem with calling her your waifu.
3. Is it okay to say one can't say waifuism has an objective definition (though love has one, and waifuism is very alike to it)
I don't think you can say that waifuism has an objective definition. That's why there's certain criteria and generally-accepted "guidelines", so to speak, about what it means.
4. What do you think of the scenario I've mentioned above?
5. Last but not least, it's a bit off-topic but do you think waifuism has a chance of spreading in modern society and becoming somewhat of a social trend? (I don't think nor am I saying it needs to and I'm strictly against it personally)
No, not at fucking all.
>> No. 17940 [Edit]
>>17937
>>17938
I agree with you, I feel that 2d and 3d love are expressed differently and that for most people it's one or the other. You're not alone ether, I really hope I don't upset anybody as I do get why people disagree with us and I'm not looking to discuss 3d stuff on /mai/ or anything.
>> No. 17945 [Edit]
>>17937
Time for me to act the way nobody has been wanting to act towards people like you.
I don't think you take 2d love seriously as we do. I think you are an insult to everything this board stands for. 2d LOVE. I don't think you get what love means. How can you be loyal and true to one of them if you have two 'loves'? Or at least, you clearly don't take waifuism as seriously as we all do. I find a contradiction in what you said. If you honestly 'love' a character, you won't accept being in a relationship with a 3D individual, as socially unacceptable as it sounds.

This sounds awful. How is it any wonderful? Don't you consider that your waifu, was she real, would love you and wouldn't accept that you could compare your love to her to anything?
I don't think you hold love. I think you hold affection, that's all. But that's what I think.
>> No. 17946 [Edit]
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>>17945
I think you're just getting your personal feelings in the way because everyone experiences things differently. Loyalty isn't sacrificed with multiple partners and everyone finds a balance between it. In a way I think it proves loyalty even more. Just because you can't do that doesn't mean others can't.

I do however agree that poster seemed kinda confused about what love is or at least naive about it. People confuse infatuation for love far too often.
>> No. 17948 [Edit]
>>17937
I hope this won't come off too harsh, but it sounds like you're the only one really benefiting from "twice the love" in your arrangement, since you're the only one with two partners at once. Unless I'm wrong? I think that (apparent?) imbalance is what's bothering OP, in part.

I can't know how seriously you feel for your waifu, but having a both 2D and 3D partner at once seems like wanting to have your cake and eat it too. It's a little off-putting. I feel that a partner deserves your undivided affection and love, no one wants to feel second-place to someone else in your heart.

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>>17946
>Just because you can't do that doesn't mean others can't.
Just because they can doesn't necessarily mean they should, though.

>2d and 3d love are expressed differently
Respectfully, I don't see what difference that makes, given what I've said. Maybe if you know for a fact that all parties involved would accept or even enjoy being shared that way, I could see your point.

Again, I don't mean any of this as harshly as it may come across.

If this crosses the line of "no 3D," I'll delete my post.
>> No. 17950 [Edit]
>>17947
I see your point there but at the same time other emotions aren't shared. You can love multiple friends or family members at once with just the same intensity. As well as hate people the same amount and other feelings too. I guess romance is seen to have that exclusive vibe to it and that you put the most time to that one person. Not everyone works like this though and if everyone is happy it shouldn't matter.

>>17948
>Just because they can doesn't necessarily mean they should, though.
But if everyone involved is happy and its healthy for everyone then whats the problem?
>> No. 17956 [Edit]
>>17950
>But if everyone involved is happy and its healthy for everyone then whats the problem?
As I said:
>if you know for a fact that all parties involved would accept or even enjoy being shared that way
I have my doubts about whether polygamous relationships can truly work for everyone involved, but I'm not going to claim that it's impossible. I'm certainly not going to stop anyone, but I'm going to stay skeptical regardless.
>> No. 17957 [Edit]
>Do you believe that waifuism can take many forms and shapes that don't necessarily meet love's criteria?
To me, waifuism is about love.
> Is it okay to have a waifu if you're in a relationship with a 3d person?
I think so, but that most people wouldn't be capable of serious romantic devotion to more than one person.
>Is it okay to call a character that only inspires you and towards which you might be infatuated a waifu?
Yeah sure. It's not my brand of waifuism though.
>Is it okay to say one can't say waifuism has an objective definition (though love has one, and waifuism is very alike to it)
I don't believe love in general even has one objective definition.
>What do you think of the scenario I've mentioned above?
I remember seeing the post you're referring to on reddit a few days ago. I'll give the same input here that I did there: I don't feel that it's impossible to love more than one person, just that most people can't. I feel that certain people would be able to make it work in a serious manner.
>Last but not least, it's a bit off-topic but do you think waifuism has a chance of spreading in modern society and becoming somewhat of a social trend?
Probably not, but I hope that one day people will be more accepting of it.
>> No. 17960 [Edit]
>>17937
>I love a fictional character
>but I also love a human being I'm in a relationship with
Fuck right off. You don't understand what love means, you're even worse than the haremfags.
>> No. 17961 [Edit]
>>17916

I think 3d is much easier than 2d because the concept is already there in front of you, it's ever-fluctuating, your subconscious doesn't have much holes to fill in its personality. You also have interaction with a 3d concept, you can always visualize/imagine/emulate with a 2d concept but it's not real (else it wouldn't be a waifu/husbando).

(as a side note the dude with the "OP" name isn't the op of this thread, though I do agree with him)
>> No. 17964 [Edit]
>>17960
I second this gentleman.
Love is an all in thing. If you don't give all you love to a single person you give no fucking thing to them.

And don't get started about "you love all you relatives equally". It is a different kind of love. I don't want to cuddle and breath share all day round with my relatives.
>> No. 17966 [Edit]
>>17960
What does love mean? Because I doubt I know ether if only your definition counts and you didn't even share it with us.
>> No. 17967 [Edit]
>1. Is it okay to have a waifu if you're in a relationship with a 3d person?
It is cheating. It's just people unsatisfied with their 3D relationship but can't be bothered to fix it or leave. They all sound like they're using a 2D lover to escape or play pretend and not that they actually care for her/him (like she's a backup or something because they won't/can't get tired of it and leave).
If it's just a joke, then it's not serious so it doesn't matter. I don't understand why people do that though, nerd cred?

>2. Is it okay to call a character that only inspires you and towards which you might be infatuated a waifu?
I don't see why people can't just saying that character is inspiring - why make it more complicated than it already is? I wouldn't call my inspiring neighbour my husband. As for infatuation, it's always better to see if it's a serious feeling or not. It's better not to jump to conclusions but if it's just infatuation they'll forget about him/her and move on.

>3. Is it okay to say one can't say waifuism has an objective definition (though love has one, and waifuism is very alike to it)
It's being in love with a 2D character. I'm not sure where the confusion is.

>4. What do you think of the scenario I've mentioned above?
Neither of them are taking it seriously and will forget about it all soon enough. I don't understand it at all.

>5. Last but not least, it's a bit off-topic but do you think waifuism has a chance of spreading in modern society and becoming somewhat of a social trend? (I don't think nor am I saying it needs to and I'm strictly against it personally)
I suppose it's becoming a small, niche fad in a joke-way but I think it will fade eventually when something else comes along (though it may not with VR becoming a thing). I don't think it has any chance of being accepted seriously. Or maybe that's just what I hope happens.
>> No. 17972 [Edit]
>>17967
Although not specifically directed towards you, your comments have many points that hold relevance to my own thoughts.

While I don't have a 3d relationship myself, I don't think you should be so quick to condemn those who have both a 3d relationship and a waifu. Truth be told, you are projecting your idea of love and a "proper" relationship on this person, even though you have no grounds to do so. Could you disagree? Of course. But you can't call him "wrong" for it, because it's relative to the individual.

Consider it like this. Waifus mean different things for different people. For some, it is their favourite character. For others, it's an inspiration they look up to and deem perfect, someone that they may feel unworthy of yet worship. For many, it lies somewhere in between, standing parallol to the concept of a "god" as people usually understand the idea. A benevolent being that watches over the person, guiding and inspiring them. I believe it's as possible to have both a relationship with a 3d and a waifu, as one would with a 3d and god. In that case, there is a different aspect of love, and a reconciliation between the two that must be made. One must be made aware of the other, and the person come to terms who they value more: their waifu or their 3d partner. But it is certainly a possibility.

Do I feel it is appropriate for my relationship with my own beloved? No. But I would not call someone out on it, as much as I would someone who is gay or likes someone of a different race. It matters not to me. Nor should it to you either. It affects you how, exactly?

I personally feel it's akin to a religious experience, and waifuism in some shape or form will grow increasingly popular as time goes on. People have always had a need for spiritual fulfillment and a desire to worship or believe in ideals. In the past, it was through organized religion; today, it is increasingly personal, depending on the individual to find their own god, their inspiration in life to follow.

I wouldn't trouble myself with such things, truth be told. Live, and let live, as the saying goes? Just embrace the waifu in your heart and believe in the power of love that will conquer evil and darkness.
>> No. 17974 [Edit]
>>17972
Not the person you replied to, but:

>Waifus mean different things for different people. For some, it is their favourite character. For others, it's an inspiration they look up to and deem perfect, someone that they may feel unworthy of yet worship...parallol to the concept of a "god"
I feel like a broken record here, but why would you call someone you don't actually romantically love your wife? What is the point? Why not just say they're your favorite or that they inspire you? Why do you need this term specifically, when something else would fit better?

>It matters not to me. Nor should it to you either. It affects you how, exactly?
It affects me because I'm here to talk to other people who are legitimately in romantic love with fictional characters, which is hard enough on its own, since so many places use the word to mean "a character I think is hot." Accepting so many disparate definitions makes the word near-meaningless, which makes it that much harder to find other like-minded people. I'm not here to talk to people with favorites, or personal inspirational figures, or whatever else you say it could mean. I have nothing against them, but this isn't the place for that.
(If you feel the above doesn't apply to what you described - nothing about the 2D partner in the scenario sounded like it had to do with romantic love; it sounded like, as you said, "a 3D and god." People don't love their god in the same way they'd love their spouse. Again, why call that a wife, of all things?)

>Live, and let live
Nobody's stopping anyone from doing what they want in their love lives. They're just arguing their own viewpoints, even if a few got rude about it.
>> No. 17975 [Edit]
>>17972
>For some, it is their favourite character.
You can call them whatever you like but it doesn't mean it's accurate or the word is being used correctly. If it's just their favourite character, what's stopping them from opening it up to all their favourite characters? 'Waifu' would become a meaningless word for 'characters I currently like (subject to change with each season and whatever I'm reading)'.

Which is why I'm not surprised people who actually have love for a 2D character either forgo the word completely and/or use something else.

>But I would not call someone out on it, as much as I would someone who is gay or likes someone of a different race.
I don't know how this is relevant.
>> No. 17977 [Edit]
>>17974

I feel a problem is that the meaning of the word "waifu" has been lost somewhere, as you have said. Now that I think of it, wasn't the original use of the word from 4ch0an referring to a favourite character in the first place? (Yes I'm aware that it's from AzuDai, talking about the first widespread use online) The /mai/ subculture of taking a waifu seriously seems to be a fairly recent, or at least niche, development. Makes sense to me people would the word waifu in a context that wouldn't be used by you.

I do understand where you are coming from, although personally, I believe romantic love is just one aspect of waifu love. It doesn't necessarily need to be a romantic/sexual relationship, but could be more of a worship and spiritual one as well. Which is why I argued against being so quick to condemn, even if I personally disagree with people who have both 3d and a waifu myself.
>> No. 17978 [Edit]
>>17977
It definitely started off as just a joke phrase.
>> No. 17985 [Edit]
>>17977
>the meaning of the word "waifu" has been lost somewhere
Then why not try to solidify it? Why not move away from the memetic "favorite character" meaning? Hell, why not move to a different term entirely, as >>17975 mentioned? That would probably work out better than continuing to use a word that sounds as ridiculous as "waifu." Not to mention we could find something that won't spark so many semantics arguments.

>I believe romantic love is just one aspect of waifu love. It doesn't necessarily need to be a romantic/sexual relationship
Once again: why call someone you don't romantically love your wife? I keep repeating this because I haven't really heard a satisfactory answer for it (not just referring to you). Why would the romantic aspect be unnecessary to the definition if we're insisting on using a word that's the twice-borrowed version of "wife"? I honestly do not understand why you wouldn't find a more fitting term.
>> No. 17994 [Edit]
>Which is why I'm not surprised people who actually have love for a 2D character either forgo the word completely and/or use something else.

I called her my girlfriend and now I call her my wife, because contrary to waifu, these words lack any weeaboo/internet/imageboard subculture connotations. Nowadays, every prick has a "waifu" from DOTA, LOL, Mass Effect, Dragon Age games, etc (not to offend some of you - I am talking about people who do not take it seriously).

There are of course some differences between 3D and 2D relationships, but for me they are negligible. I have more or less the same experience with my 2D beloved as some of my friends have with 3Ds.
>> No. 17995 [Edit]
>>17994
... so I see no reasons to use some specific terminology, other then the widely accepted one: gf, wife, spouse, beloved, significant other, etc.
>> No. 18008 [Edit]
Maybe I'm just throwing my thoughts here but some of the stuff I've read and thought about for my studies have led me to try to find a more "flexible" way of calling out a deep connection with an idea... I think the deepest religious scholars (of faith) would call believing in God not so much as asserting or proving His existence (or much more being aligned with "truth"), but calling out a deep emotional or subconscious connection to God. Some people here have said waifuism is just being romantic, but at the same time I would say that most of us think that most people (ford drivers or whatnot) don't even have a clear conception of romance and they live their romance poorly, so in a sense this would damage the concept of romance -- this is why I prefer to use such an analogy.

Similarly there is another extreme that I think we'd all like to avoid -- the cult member that can literally only think about certain doctrines and comes out of his experience brainwashed and regretting anything. Perhaps I'm suggesting my ideal of waifuism is to have this deep connection while maintaining flexibility.
>> No. 18017 [Edit]
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>1. Is it okay to have a waifu if you're in a relationship with a 3d person?
I feel that true love cannot happen with more than two people involved, so no.

>2. Is it okay to call a character that only inspires you and towards which you might be infatuated a waifu?
I don't feel it's entirely wrong. Either way, the inspiration could lead to love somewhere down the line.

>3. Is it okay to say one can't say waifuism has an objective definition (though love has one, and waifuism is very alike to it)
It's hard to pinpoint because of the meaning of the word changing from its original use, and how different groups use the word in different ways. It's not impossible for a word to have more than one definitive meaning though.

>4. What do you think of the scenario I've mentioned above?
It's a little unfortunate, but the term "waifu" has been around too long to make a new, more serious term for people like us. I'm fine with it as it is, but that may just be because I'm biased due to its origins.

>5. Last but not least, it's a bit off-topic but do you think waifuism has a chance of spreading in modern society and becoming somewhat of a social trend? (I don't think nor am I saying it needs to and I'm strictly against it personally
It could happen, but it would be an incredibly slow process. It's something that's still shunned in Japan despite their social climate, so in other places with more "regular" social activity it would be even more looked down upon initially. If it were to happen it'd probably start its growth in Japan and possibly spread from there, but we're talking decades in the future at the very least.

I wouldn't hate it if it happened, but I could potentially see more bad than good happening as a side-effect of it, down the line.

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