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1358 No. 1358 [Edit]
I hate to sound like a whiny bitch, but I'm thinking about dropping out of my university.
I've no interest in my major, and, indeed, feel complete apathy toward nearly every sort of activity that requires any sort of work. Even eating is a hassle, though differently than it was when I was a NEET. Then, it was more that I was busy on the computer to want to eat; now, opening a bag of chips is too much trouble because I'll have to find one of those bag-clip things when I finish, even though I know, objectively, that eating is the right course of action.

I just can't bring myself to give a damn, and trying to attend classes and such in that 'objective' mindset doesn't work out, as a math class last semester, which I barely passed with a 70, showed me. Raising a bad GPA is a lot harder, I've been told, than keeping a high GPA high, so, knowing my GPA will definitely drop a lot with this current apathy of mine, I've decided to drop.

The problem is, what do I do? My parents will likely be supportive, just because they fear I'll kill myself over here, which I was planning a while back, and haven't entirely struck off the list of possible options. From childhood, I've been raised with "After finishing elementary school, go to middle school, and after finishing middle school, go to high school, and after finishing high school, go to college," as if it were just the next step. Dropping out of college is like trying to stop yourself mid-leap and crashing into the ground at the wrong angle.

The natural answer is to get a job, any job, but, as childish as it sounds, I don't want to, even if I need to. It's too much trouble, just like it's too much trouble to get food to eat because I'll need to cook it before satisfying my hunger. So I just go hungry.

I don't have any aversion to dying, but I'm just trying to find some alternative that seems more enjoyable before making my choice. If you'll allow me to make up numbers, college feels like it requires a work input of 10units for a reward of 2units, whereas getting a job is putting in 9 to get 4, and simply killing myself is putting in 6 to get 6. Not only does it require less effort of the other choices, but it also gives me the most reward. More importantly, though, it equals out, which is a pretty damn good deal considering the other options I can see. But if there's an option I'm missing that gives me a higher output than the input, I want to find out before choosing my course of action.

And so I hesitate. I can't make choices [dropping college] before settling on what to do after [suicide]. I can't settle on what to do after without knowing, preferably, all my options and weighing them subjectively. I try to streamline it all to prevent actions done in a passionate fit, while also heavily taking into account how I will emotionally handle the choice I make and the action to take afterward.

But, since my one mind is poor, what else can I do if I drop out of college when I lack any desire to do anything?
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>> No. 1359 [Edit]
suicide is for cowards, become a neet
>> No. 1360 [Edit]
>>1359
Parents can't afford my leeching.
>> No. 1361 [Edit]
When my parents cut me off I'll probably kill myself. Having to get a job and deal with people every day is a fate worse than death for me anyway
>> No. 1363 [Edit]
>>1358
Can you think of any unorthodox pathways which offer better returns than suicide? Not everyone has to go to college. Not everyone has to get a job. For example, this man: http://www.youtube.com/jmemantzel
>> No. 1364 [Edit]
>>1360
you think your parents would rather you kill yourself then?
>> No. 1365 [Edit]
>>1363
his job is to build giant robots?
>> No. 1367 [Edit]
>6 to 6
how is suicide/death a reward?
>> No. 1368 [Edit]
>>1365
He has an engineering degree from Brown university. A rough childhood and being inundated with student debt after his degree made him disillusioned with the world. After buying a piece of remote woodland on a mountain in Vermont, he only works one month out of every twelve to gain enough money to last his living expenses for another year (and with ingenuity and creativity he has whittled his expenses to only a few thousand per year).

Another example of an unorthodox path would be the 'van hobo' lifestyle. You can thrive as a homeless person, using a gym membership for access to a locker and showers, cafes for wireless and a van to sleep in. Without a mortgage and furniture to buy, and no electricity and gas to pay for either, expenses become much less compared to a 'normal' guy. Some info: http://guide2homelessness.blogspot.com/
>> No. 1369 [Edit]
What would make you happy?
>> No. 1370 [Edit]
>>1358
I'm in the same situation as you OP, I have an exam tomorrow and I just can't find the will to study. I already missed the deadline for several of my tasks and I still haven't found a place to do my internship although I have to start in a week. There is absolutely no chance in hell that I can make it.
This is already the fourth time I started college, I just don't seem to have the motivation to study.
My brother is already a NEET, and not our kind of NEET but a normalfag NEET, which makes it worse because my parents can't afford a second NEET.
I might just pack up some of my stuff and become a vagabond. If I'm lucky I might freeze to death in my sleep during the winter, this way I don't have to kill myself.
>> No. 1373 [Edit]
>>1367
I don't have to worry about things anymore and can take it easy indefinitely, probably.

>>1364
Ignoring how cruel it is to force your parents to let you leech off them by threatening them with your suicide, I said my parents can't afford it. Not, they'd rather spend the money on vacationing in the Bahamas. They really just can't afford it right now. And probably won't be able to for another five centuries.

>>1368
Seems interesting, but he does have a degree in something he's excessively passionate about; it's what people want him to do with his skill that he detests. I just have zero interest in any degree or occupation, much less regarding society's desires for the degree.
I'll have to think about the van-hobo thing. It probably wouldn't make me happy, but is an interesting alternative.

>>1369
Bare minimum? A modest apartment with thick walls that has a grocery store nearby (across the street or something), and being able to afford to spend $25~ monthly for more books. That way I can effectively be a shut in with my books and computers, except for excursions to the store. That's pretty much all I want to be happy.
Essentially, a living in which I interact with very few people, don't have to travel farther than I can carry groceries walking without fear of being mugged, and can have the freedom of privacy from prying eyes and ears. That's pretty much all I need to be happy.
>> No. 1376 [Edit]
>>1369
Not OP, but with me I honestly don't know what would make me truly happy. Things like video games and anime just take my mind off how unhappy I am
>> No. 1377 [Edit]
Man up.
>> No. 1378 [Edit]
Why not choose a major that you really like?

Consider this: the effort, pain and work you put on studying now is the less effort, pain and work you will have to do later.

If you really want to drop out, it's also fine. Dropping college is not the end of the world. You will realize that everyone has to work, at some point or another. Ask your parents to let you sleep in their home while you gather enough money to buy your own things and get started in life. This should be a natural thing for parents to do. They don't have to support you (but they surely will to some extent, since you are their kid), only offer you a place to sleep and take care of you. This way you have less charges than starting the hard way. You can also give a fraction of your money to your parents, depending on how much you earn but I doubt that.
>> No. 1379 [Edit]
Join the military. It'll build you up rather nicely.
>> No. 1380 [Edit]
>>1378
Because I can't seem to like anything.
>> No. 1383 [Edit]
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1383
I know that feel.

My problem is that even if I finish university there is no warranty of a job. I talked to counselors and professors and it all boils down to having good social skills and connections (that means I'm fucked).

I already had a "common job". It was soul crushing and I would never go back there. I researched on finding a passion but even if you find something that you like everything becomes hard at some point. What ever you choose you gotta work your balls off.

It looks like we have no place on society. the competition bar is too high for us.

However, I've been researching a lot on independent business. Setting one is cheaper than even before, and with the right value you only need hard work and connections. I'm ok with that. Knowing that one day I could be my own boss and spend my free time how I want keeps me motivated, even if I'm not rich.

The only question is whether to drop out of college and start working very seriously or keep doing average and wait for better times.
>> No. 1384 [Edit]
>>1383
My father did that, actually. Started a few years back.
To tell you how he's doing, allow me to point out something in your post:

>it all boils down to having good social skills and connections (that means I'm fucked)

>you only need hard work and connections
He's more social now than he was working his original "common job" at a manufacturing warehouse, seeing as he has to put himself out there. He's paid $200 for a month's membership of the town council of business, all so he could give a presentation of his business in front of a group of other people who own businesses, in hopes of convincing them to add him as a cog in their vertical business line.
He does webdesign, among other things, too, so it's like seeing someone play out an option I was going to consider, and me learning how much I'd hate it as if I had done it myself.
>> No. 1386 [Edit]
>>1383
>My problem is that even if I finish university there is no warranty of a job. I talked to counselors and professors and it all boils down to having good social skills and connections (that means I'm fucked).

this so fucking much. i've been out of school for 6 fucking months now and no job, and student loans kicking in. i've applied to about 300 jobs through careerbuilder and soforth and haven't heard shit from nobody. the only jobs that I actually get an interview for (that have failed obviously) are the ones where my parents were able to get me in because they have connections.
>> No. 1387 [Edit]
>>1379
Considering what OP has said, that's a terrible idea.
>> No. 1404 [Edit]
>>1387
Trust me, it's not a bad idea. The military is designed to break you and rebuild you into something else.
>> No. 1405 [Edit]
>>1379
>>1404
This.

I don't mind joining the military. You'll probably get a better job than most of the people out there. Plus, you'd come out a different person than you were before. I'll probably join the military as soon as I get my masters' maybe even a doctorate degree.
>> No. 1406 [Edit]
>>1405
Provided you make it through basic training. It is EXTREMELY tough and there are always several suicide attempts every year.
>> No. 1408 [Edit]
What country is OP in? Levels of discipline and danger vary from military to military. I wouldn't go if you were in the U.S., especially if you're not good at anything in particular and don't have a degree; that's a one way ticket to getting shot, depending on what branch you join. Of course, if you excel in the military and need or prefer the discipline and structure it gives to life you could become a career military man. You'd eventually get an office job or at least a non-fighting job if you stayed in long enough. No matter what branch you pick, though, you'll probably spend some time in a dangerous area.
Protip: finish college with a useless degree while getting fit and studying about various useless subjects and you could become eligible for the special forces.
>> No. 1410 [Edit]
Well, I just dropped out and moved back in with my parents. The few hours of the first day I had, I spent unpacking. I was going to spend Sunday unpacking too, but I think I'll spend it playing games, then use Monday to finish unpacking in case my father tries to push me into getting a job at McDonalds or something.
It's a bit disappointing that I am away from the tall buildings of the big city, but there are a few really sharp knives in the house, so suicide is still within working limitations.

>>1404
>>1405
>>1406
>>1408
No, I'm not joining the damn military. While my great grandfather did live 40 years off of $50K pensions from three different branches of the military, I am not joining the damn military.
I like who, and how, I am. Being broken down by a big guy with a loud voice then rebuilt into something else by an entity that effectively hates me (ie, the government) or made up of people who effectively hate me (ie, the military guys), both of which populated with people who would be happy to shoot me in the head for the simple fact that I'm a lolicon; all that is not in any way a rational action.

All it would lead to is more stress and an unhappy life as my very being was systematically smashed with a sledgehammer, and even more stress when they start rebuilding me into how they think I should be.

Getting screamed at constantly and forced to be around countless men and women who look like men, both of which were the people in high school who you knew would either be a parent before 20, or would be dead from drunk driving before 30, and not to mention being forced to use a regulated and slow internet that effectively forbids you from looking at loli, shota, or traps anymore, AND your time to play/watch/read/listen eroge/VNs/anime/manga/Vocaloid/OSTs is gone.

Seems more like a mandatory, high-intensive therapy, like those camps they sent gay children to in order to cure them.
Military is the polar opposite of having a peaceful and happy life.
Joining the military when you liked being a NEET is like wanting to eat more vegetables, so you go on a strict vegan-only diet.
>> No. 1411 [Edit]
>>1410
Well, congratulations on making a decision and acting on it. Whether it turns out for bad or good, at least you did what you want.
>> No. 1413 [Edit]
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>>1410
>I just dropped out and moved back in with my parents.

Oh broh: it's gonna suck; suck real hard...
But whatever becomes of you/us, I respect and salute you for your position towards army and the government; know you're not the only one here still making insane/suicidal decisions, rather than joining their poorly staged farse of world...

Keep the loli coming. See you.
>> No. 1415 [Edit]
>>1410
Wow you sound like a little bitch.
>> No. 1421 [Edit]
>>1415
take it easy
>> No. 1428 [Edit]
>>1410
>I like who, and how, I am.

Then why did you make thread complaining about who and how you are?
>> No. 1429 [Edit]
>>1428
He wasn't complaining
>> No. 1431 [Edit]
>>1428
I wasn't?

About my situation, yes, and perhaps you could infer that I was complaining about living in a world that won't let me be a NEET, but I've never said anything about hating, or even disliking, who I am.
>> No. 1443 [Edit]
I hate to do this, but what is the OP image from?
>> No. 1444 [Edit]
>>1443
The World Only God Knows, going by the filename
>> No. 1445 [Edit]
>>1444
Right, much obliged.

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