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6818 No. 6818 [Edit]
I feel like I'm gradually changing /so/. After being in the workforce for around a month and a half, I had to forcefully change the way I act around others and become more "social". This of course meant that I had to say things I don't mean and I had to do things I would rather not do. I joined the workforce for the sole purpose of being able to support myself but at this rate-- I feel as if I'll be completely devoured. Is it natural for someone to change like this? Trust me, I hate being like this but I feel like if I keep forcing myself to do it (and I have to) I will just one day say "fuck it, let's just change" and I will become an asshole.
>> No. 6819 [Edit]
I think the more time you spend on the outside, the more you'll grow to accept it.
>> No. 6820 [Edit]
Just because you're more social, that doesn't automatically make you an asshole.
>> No. 6821 [Edit]
If you're worried about becoming a "normal", it doesn't have to be like that. I've been in the workforce for years now and I'm still the same shut-in, just with slightly elevated social ability. Human interaction is just part of the job, right?
>> No. 6823 [Edit]
Don't worry, you'll only learn how to interact competently with others on a business level, not a personal level.
>> No. 6824 [Edit]
>>6820

It does. I hate talking to these people. They have no regard whether or not I fucking care about what they talk about. I make it so painfully obvious that I'd rather not speak but they insist to trouble me. It's not just a matter of me being more "social"; to me, becoming social comes with plenty of consequences. It changes the way you think.
>> No. 6826 [Edit]
>>6824

No it does not. Changing depends on whether or not you have the willpower to remind yourself that you are not one of them and your will to not change the way you think.

You can't blame society or people at your job or anyone you are around for your change. Yes, they do influence you, but YOU are the one who decides how much they influence you.
>> No. 6827 [Edit]
>>6821
>>6823
These two are right. I have been working for five years now. Apart from being a little better at small-talk, I am the same person.

Doing and saying things you don't like is what having a job is like. Unless you land a dream job, but very few people do.

Just remember, you are only doing it for the money.
>> No. 6828 [Edit]
You should realize something. Who you are deep down never changes. Even if you're forced to put on a fake show for years, once those days are up and you're alone again, you'll go back to your old self.
>> No. 6830 [Edit]
As far as "needing to say things you don't mean," ya don't do that, be honest. It is called integrity, and without it you are scum. I'd say you are well on your way to becoming an asshole, but it is never too late to regain your honor.
>> No. 6831 [Edit]
Having a job has only made me better at irrelevant small talk.
>> No. 6833 [Edit]
everyone is a video game. you open with your 'hi, how are you' combo, counter their counter with a 'fine, fine.' and finish em off with a 'thank you, have a nice day!'
Personally I cannot say 'have a nice day' I sound condescending when I say it, so I don't. no one pays attention to them anyway, they're just placeholders. bookends.
>> No. 6834 [Edit]
>>6833
>counter their counter with a 'fine, fine.'
Also, never say anything other than "fine" or "okay" even if it's the best or worst day of your life. People won't be expecting it and they won't know how to react.
>> No. 6838 [Edit]
>>6830
If this is the case, I am already an asshole. But you know something, I don't care. I have to deal with people every day out of necessity, and I don't care about most of them at all, but if I'm sincere with them it's going to go hard on both of us. Since I don't care about them anyway, I don't mind being insincere, or lying to them (which I do all the time.) It makes no different whether I lie to them or tell them the truth, least of all to them.
>> No. 6839 [Edit]
What kinds of things are you saying that you don't mean, OP? What kinds of things are you doing that you would rather not do?

With a lot of things -- like enthusiasm for the job, offering condolences when someone's relative dies, or just saying "have a nice day" -- I think people already understand and expect you not to truly care. As far as I can tell, they're more concerned with you showing that you're willing to respect them and try to get along (by behaving according to the same social rituals they do).
>> No. 6845 [Edit]
I am going through the same thing, OP. In order to "pass" classes in college I am expected to participate well in group work. While I am scared that being social may slowly transform me into some sort of hipster douchebag asshole, I can rest assured knowing that I am trying my best not to let this happen. It's all about keeping your mask on outside, and mask off inside. You may feel good about being able to say that you can live the life you want to live (i.e: personal, waifu, life) whilst being able to withstand the problems outside with some sort of persona. You won't change if you know you can't, OP; and I know you love living the way you do now, there will never be a time where you are forced to become something you hate. Think about it, you can always quit if it really bothers you. All I'm saying is, what are you working for anyway? My guess is to have a nice peaceful life with your waifu (at least, that's what my guess is). If working becomes a constant risk that endangers that dream, then I completely suggest to do something about it (i.e tell your workers to fuck off without getting fired), or to just quit.
>> No. 6846 [Edit]
The change happened to you quickly, it seems.
For me it was like... one year after at the same company. First I was really shy, my words stuttered etc. I really kept to myself. That started to change to more social, first just some random chit-chat regarding the job and what not. Some time passed again, then I started to talk _a lot_ 1 on 1 with one girl, everything from music to studying and so on. Then one alpha-male asshole stole her from me (so ronery) not like I'd had any chance in romantic front, but was nice talking to her. Probably the first chick I've ever felt comfortable with.
Nowadays, 2 years later, I'm the typical lazy douchebag at work. 90% of my time I'm either talking shit behind someones back or how the job sucks balls, constantly bouncing "haha, fuck off man" with other co-workers.

It really is weird, because still in "public" outside work I feel really uneasy around people and I haven't even met with any of my friends in almost over a year because I'm such a hikikomori.

It almost feels like a mask that I automatically put on whenever I go to work, or something.
>> No. 7293 [Edit]
You know, I always hear about how joining the workforce or whatever will make you a normal but I'm just not seeing it.

I've been working for a while now but I still have literally no friends. I never talk to anyone outside of work. Aside from my job I'm still completely asocial.

To put things in perspective, I know this NEET person who hasn't worked or been to school in months and she still is more social than I am.
>> No. 7294 [Edit]
>>7293
I don't see it ever changing me, either (if I ever get a job anyway). It's not like school turned me into a normal or anything, I've been like this my whole life. Why would a job?
>> No. 7362 [Edit]
You won't become an asshole. You're just learning to function better around other people. Being more social isn't a bad thing. It's kind of a requirement, because you'll find living NEET isn't something you can keep up forever.

Being "Normal" isn't something to be afraid of. You can enjoy anime without being a NEET. And besides, interacting on a personal level is kind of a requirement for your physical and mental health.

The trick is to consider other people as people worth just as much as you are. Because it's kind of the actual case.

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