>I know life isn't supposed to be easy and all, but how am I supposed to suck it up and wade through shit if the reward for doing it isn't really worth it to me?

That's a good question. I've been wondering about that for the past 20 years (well, in reality past 6 or so). When you figure it out make sure to let me know.

That last line really sums up my situation. I go to bed every night hoping I don't wake up and I really don't know how I will be able to do things I don't want to support a life that I don't even want to live anymore.

Get on government benefits. If you are truly a shut-in NEET, it should be pretty easy. After that, it's all smooth sailing, enjoying pretty much whatever you want, whenever you want, and nobody can give you shit for it.

>>4862
>>4863
Well, at least I'm not the only one, but that isn't very encouraging toward me finding an answer...

>>4864
>If you are truly a shut-in NEET
Well, starting today, I'm no longer a NEET. Nonetheless, that the government would give money to citizens who refuse to work is a bit hard to imagine, I must admit.

>>4865
Well, as long as you exhibit some of the signs that a normal shut-in NEETS shows, I don't see why you wouldn't be accepted. If you have the commons slew of problems that most TC NEETS do, then you should be right as rain. I am referring to social anxiety, depression, that sort of shit, ya know.

I have the same problem as OP except I've been in university for 4 years. To be honest, paying to do shit I hate is terrible. The way they nickel and dime the hell out of students is leading me to believe this is nothing more than a scam or a propaganda mill. Whoever said college is better than high school is a fucking imbecile. They're both awful.

>>4863
That's how I feel every single day. Then I wake up.

>>4863
>>4870

Reminds me of a scene (it's the first scene to be exact - the whole thing is supposed to be a look at an average day of a certain guy - he just woke up) of a movie I really like (although it would make absolutely no sense to foreigners). Here's the protagonist mental monologue (rather poorly translated but I'm too lazy to do it better myself):

I'm afraid to get up in the morning. I'm afraid of the day. Every day... Every morning I'm afraid to open my eyes. Because of the dawn, that frightens me... I completely don't know what to do with the upcoming day.
Damn, I can't. Oh fuck. In the name of Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit. Amen. I do have some obligations, but...
Emptiness. Like it wouldn't matter whether I got up or not. Whether I would do something or not. Goddamn it. Hygiene, Food, Work, Food, Work, Smoking, Drugs, Sleep.

So yeah, I guess we all know that feeling.

>>4867
Looking at their site, it seems more like medical disabilities, like not having a leg or an arm, rather than I'm too depressed to work.

>>4887
You live in America, yes? Well, you can certainly get on the benefits for having depression, anxiety, autism, yada yada. Medical disability does account for mental health, you know. If you truly are too depressed/anxious to work, that'll do. Seriously, just apply, if it doesn't work out, then it's whatever. If it does, you'll be whistling dixie.

>>4900

>Name, address and phone number of someone we can contact who knows about your medical conditions and can help with your claim.
Unless I spend money getting diagnosed, there's no way

>>4910
Either list a parent, or just put yourself, and explain you don't have anyone.

I did the latter, and it worked out fine for me.

>>4910
They do that for you. If you go in and apply, or even do it online, they'll have you go see a psychologist for free. If you are stressing about providing a name of a person who knows your conditions, just put your mother. She'll be more then happy to see you trying to do something to better yourself, even if your motives aren't that altruistic.

>>4911
Oh, what did you apply for, if I may ask? I'm trying to get on SSI or whatever at the moment, and would like a second opinion or something. Hell, even just someone to talk to about the process would be pretty cool.

Post edited on 6th Jun 2011, 1:33pm

>>4912
I went for SSI, and you're right they do sign you up to see a doctor for diagnosis, I forgot to address that part. I did get it, so if you have any questions about the process I'll answer them as best I can.

>>4914
Awesome. Well, right now I was just accepted for the GAU/Disability lifeline or whatever they are calling it. I haven't actually called them to confirm shit because I am afraid of phones, but still. The other day though, I received a letter from some bigwig saying I should just apply straight to SSI. Is that standard? Or did your experience differ?

Also, I assume applying for SSI is much the same for the GAU; meaning I go talk to a psychologist for diagnosis, and they handle the rest?

>>4917
I have not once gone to a doctor in my life. I have zero medical records, and I'm doing pretty well, if I may say so. It should be the same for you.

Post edited on 6th Jun 2011, 1:44pm

>>4911
I meant, they want to check medical records, and I've never been to a hospital for such. A psychologist, yes, but she was a private, and not affiliated with any doctor or something.

>>4916
I'm not even sure what GUA is, though I'll give a good goolging here in a minute. But with SSI, they just have you visit a doctor of thier choosing for a onetime interview, which happens towards the end of the process. But yeah, pretty much. you'll have some paper work to handle but ti's all relatively simple stuff. However, they will call you a few times, prepare for that.

>>4917
Just request the private psychologist's records. If you can't for some reason, it still shouldn't be the end of the world or anything.

>>4919
How terrible. I've already visited a doctor for a one-off interview, and it was downright unpleasant. I truly hope I don't have to do another. Enough about that though.

I hope I'm not being too intrusive, but what do you do with your SSI? Do you pretty much buy whatever you want, whenever you want? I've been pretty paranoid for a while that they'll give me shit for buying figs and all that kind of stuff.

>>4922
I would say that you will have to see another doctor. But I dunno how well the GUA thing is implemented with the SSA, so it may count, but I think it's unlikely to count on it.

Well, I've spend a lot of the money just "catching up" as I am in poverty. But they didn't seem to bat an eye at it. I'm saving for a trip to Japan with the rest at the end of the year, I assume if that goes well, then just about anything else is fair game. I haven't been on it long enough to really say for sure, my advice is to play it safe, buy things you can explain, and have a good reason if called on it.

Maybe a more seasoned veteran can fill that in some.

>>4865
>Nonetheless, that the government would give money to citizens who refuse to work is a bit hard to imagine, I must admit.

welcome to Finland

>>4925

Seriously, it's about time I moved to some Scandinavian country (inb4 Finland is not Scandinavian).

Also, as far as I know getting any money just because you're depressed is pretty much impossible where I live. So yeah, I'm pretty envious of those of you who are on welfare.

>>4923
A trip to Japan? Sounds awesome, I hope you have a good time. I faintly recall some paperwork saying you can't leave the country for any longer then 3-4 weeks though, so watch out for that.

Also, damn. What's the point of getting on it if you can't buy whatever you want? Maybe I should funnel money to my parents and have them redirect it in cash form to me. That way, I can buy a fair deal of the things I like without having a trail.

>>4923 Here, to expand a little, I'd say you're alright for most if not anything. Just have a little caution in the beginning. I mean if every single thing you've bought is a fig or doujin, then explaining it may be hard, should they ask.

You can't apply to SSI online.
Do I really have to call them to set up an physical appointment? What happens afterward?

>>4929
Well, if it's anything like what I have experienced for GAU, you will need to go provide statements for income, residence, birth certificate, blah blah blah, and they will set you up for a doctor visit. I don't know what happens after that.

If you do not an income and shit, and are under the age of 22, they will use your parents.

>>4929
It's a long process, you CAN apply online, but they will send you actual paper work, call you a few times, and send you to a doctor.

This will happen throughout six months to a year's time, so you'll be able to recover in between steps.

Also, you can apply in an actual appointment, but why bother? Just do the online application on the site, to start things off.

>>4930
My parents would probably be against it...
Or, maybe, I'm just adverse to admitting to them that I can't mesh with society.

Though, my dad has always been against receiving government aid at all, except in cases of scholarship money and grants.

>>4932
You think mine weren't? I had to have plenty of arguments with them to force my feelings upon them. In the end, they have accepted that this truly is the best thing for me, as otherwise, when they die, I will end up homeless/dead. If you are anything like the NEET stereotype, this is also true for you.

If you don't mind me being late to the party, what is the image in the OP from? A google of the file name didn't help.

>>4934

Hayate no Gotoku

You should feel bad about not recognizing it.

>>4935
FUUU-
Thank you.

What was so bad about the class, OP?
>>4923
>I'm saving for a trip to Japan with the rest at the end of the year
Enjoy not having enough money for like... anything.

>>4943
Nothing major, I suppose. This is just the first day, after all. However, I found that, despite being an online course, the instructor gave us daily assignments to participate actively with at least five posts in a blackboard forum for our class. We were to respond once to whatever topic he created in his thread, then respond a minimum of five posts to other classmates' responses, in order to promote debate and discussion. There is a time limit of 24hours from when the thread opens and they occur daily. What's more, there are three tests in the course over the subject material, yet even if one were to literally get a zero on every single test, it would be completely possible to pass the class with a 70, the grade required to pass the course being 60.

OP, if you get SSI you should find out if there are any tax-free incomes you can get while online. If you can make enough you can hide the untaxed cash and use the SSI for basic expenses. This is how poor trailer trash people get enough money to buy their FOX clothes and unregistered guns.
On a completely unrelated note, food stamps pay for Red Bull. This strikes me as bizarre and slightly wrong.

>>4952
Well, not only have I lost my fire to apply, fearing that I won't get it anyway, but I also don't think that I'll get it even if I manage to remember that application number I seem to have forgotten.

>>4951
>then respond a minimum of five posts to other classmates' responses, in order to promote debate and discussion
Oh, Haruhi. I don't think I could handle that at all. You should just be thankful that it's not face-to-face debate/discussion, though, you know?

I recall in high-school, I signed up for what is basically a watered-down philosophy class. Turns out it was mainly debating. We had to form a circle with out desks, and discuss what we were currently reading. It was awful, I just sat there like I was dead or something for the entire class, trying to come up with the right way to tell the people that I disagreed with them, but I just couldn't. The grade was divided into two parts. If I remember correctly, it was 75% discussion participation, 25% essay grades. Either way, I'm pretty sure it was around that kind of balance. I did the essays, and got A's and B's on them. Despite all of that, I just wouldn't talk. Ended up failing because of that...But that's just a digression.

I don't see why you can't just talk to your parents about your choices. I understand, coming from a rather strange position myself, that I don't get how "normal parents" act, but my mother and I had a discussion similar to that when she tried to make me sign up for Adult Education/night school when I was 16. The only issue I really had with that was the fact that I had officially regressed from a 'disappointment' to a 'fuck up'. I'm sure, if you at least try and seriously discuss this with them, they'll at least hear you out. Just because others don't think you're happy doesn't mean you're not.
Although being a NEET does sort of suck at times. Still, I think being a NEET (a life without 'human responsibilities') outweighs being a normal (a life spent working towards something you're really not motivated to have - marriage, money, and so on).

I tried those online classes and got into that discussion board/blackboard shit too. Just quit doing them after the first one, never again will I take a online class for the reason that some instructors put too much weight on them and I hate doing them. Failed one of them and nearly failed the other of the two I took partially due to them.

>>4966
Well, my parents, for better or worse, still think I'm a devilishly brilliant child who can do anything. They've never had a chance at college, yet their son was offered a full-ride scholarship. When I was younger, I wanted to be a doctor, and they were all proud because, "Oh, my son wants to be a doctor~" And when I decided that was boring, they supported that change too.
It just feels painful to disappoint them, I guess.

I mean, I know I should live for myself, that that's the proper response to such a situation, but how can I live for myself if the way I'll have to live to be happy is something that will disappoint, or likely even disgust, them?

I'd hate to because of that reason, but I'm sorely pressed to withdraw after all. It's just fear of disappointing them that bothers me the most, I guess, and makes me suicidal.

>>5017

>How can I live for myself if the way I'll have to live to be happy is something that will disappoint, or likely even disgust, them?

That's another great question. Again, when you figure it out...

Eh, I don't think the online classes are too bad. But mine were on literature and writing which at least mildly interested me. It was when I got into my major classes that I realized I absolutely hated what I was doing.

I was once in a position something like yours. I had some idea of how I wanted to live my life, but my parents shamed me out of it and encouraged me to go into something I didn't care for. That apathy turned to hatred when I realized I really didn't like the field I was studying at all (engineering) and I also realized there was no way I had a future in it since I was having trouble with beginner courses like calculus 2. I switched my major again to something at their behest, and lo and behold I dislike it again, but at least I have the ability to do the work. I guess there could be some jobs I would like in the field however those particular jobs are something I know they wouldn't approve of, which is why I'll go for them.


It's not your duty to satisfy your parents. If NEETing is what you want to do, then seriously look into the programs described by other anons.

Ah, well, it was denied. Disability because the only time I worked was when I was underaged, and so didn't pay taxes, and SSI because I have more than $2000 in a bank account thanks to a student loan.

Ah...what to do now.

I personally dislike online classes, I feel as though I would be able to learn more being there listening to the professor and the others talk, and even chiming in every once in a while. Also in my experience, online classes meant alot more homework.

>>5371
My experience with online classes were always ones where you just had three or four tests, and that was it. Even my statistics course that I took online, though the professor did host lectures and notes on the blackboard site, required nothing of us but the tests. I spent the time teaching myself statistics with the help of KhanAcademy, took the tests, got 90s on them all, except for the final exam I got a 70 on due to forgetting my calculator... Though that was still pretty good as the test itself was full of problems requiring you to find square roots. Haruhi, that was a pain.

>>5018
You balance things you like doing with things you have to do. Everyone knows the solution, they just wish they didn't have to do anything.
>>5373
How could you forget to bring your calculator to an online class?

>>5375
No, the final was on campus.