When you figure it out be sure to tell me, because you just described me.

>I'm not confident. Don't have any skills. I am turning ugly and fragile, live an unhealthy life. I am failure.

nobody else gives a fuck, why should you?
You are a blank slate, absolutely nothing holding you back other than yourself.

if you are worried about what other people think you just need to learn to say "fuck you" to the world.

>>2930
Behold, a clone of me. And pretty much everyone here.

I had these same feelings after I pretty much hikki'd it up for a year. I just felt so helpless and useless. I too was afraid of going out and failing. I just felt like I couldn't even do the simplest of jobs and continually wasted time and pussy footed around.

I had the fortunate support of my family to push me in the right direction by getting me a job (more like forced me to start working). At first I was still a little reluctant and nervous about the whole thing. But once I started to go out and actually talked with the manager and got the job and worked there for a little, all those bad feelings just went away. I felt like I could actually work and not worry about failing. Training usually covers everything and for your first few weeks people usually tolerate mistakes and will help you out until you get used to everything.

I feel like you just have to get over the anxiety and stop making it seem like such a daunting task. Once you actually go out and try it and at least present yourself as being confident in your ability to work, you'll just whittle those fears away and learn that the world isn't as scary as you may think. Also acknowledging the fact that inevitably you will fail at something or make a mistake, and that you'll just need to own up to it and learn from it.

Oh man I know that feel, and right now I'm being pushed over the edge to get a job.

I might get one crunching data from 22:00 PM - 5:00 AM with no social interaction, which sounds perfect to me

You could volunteer somewhere, since they don't really care about experience when they're not paying you, and then use that experience to get a paid job. Or you could go to one of those organizations that help people get jobs, though they might have you do the same thing.

I know the boat you're in, OP. If it's any comfort, you haven't failed. As long as you can try again, you haven't failed.

The anxiety of it is worse than actually doing it. It's scary, and it can be hard, but once you're actually doing it you tend to realize it's not as bad as you thought. Plus, once you're used to it, all the anxiety you have right now will be over with!

  I'm not afraid of social interaction. I love science, and I love experiments, and I treat all social interaction outside my friend group as experiments. Thus, I love to have social interaction.

However, I am scared to death of working.

I don't know what to do, I am scared to death of messing up and my boss or my co-workers not liking me or finding me to be annoying, treating me like a child or a mentally handicapped person. I'm afraid of losing my sense of self to the mindless inundation of physical labour. I'm afraid of the commute, being forced to buy a car and get a licence and have that major siphon on my wallet. I am afraid that I won't be paid nearly as much as I wish or think I would be getting. I am afraid of filling out or not filling out the wrong form and getting arrested for a felony without my even knowing it. I'm afraid that my parents will start making me pay rent and I'll be working my ass off for $5 of spending money a month. I'm afraid of never having free time ever again.

I'm afraid of becoming the sous chef at a fancy restaurant, and with luck getting head chef by next year, having an amazing fiancée, but not getting married next weekend, because I'm aboot to be in a terrible "accident" because I was an idiot.

>>2955
Not OP, but I'm also afraid of working. Well, not "working" in itself (I enjoyed working when I wasn't turning into dust from inactivity), but coworkers, customers and all that human interaction that comes with it. Even working from home and having to contact just one other person for work drives me insane. See, thing is, I tried what you're suggesting. It's what most people tell you to do, it's a normal sort of approach to just get used to it and conquer your fears. But shit man, that didn't happen with me. Instead, I've created some sort of vicious cycle. I get so stressed and panicky from work (or rather, being around other people in general) that I can't even quit properly and just *disappear* from work after working for a few months max. Which leads me to isolating myself in my house for about a year or more after each failed work attempt. Every single time it gets harder to try again. Exposure doesn't always work. Sometimes it makes things harder. Especially if all you have are bad experiences from each time you expose yourself. In which case, if that doesn't work, what the hell are you supposed to do?

Going to school made me so nervous that I would throw up almost every day before I left the house. I think that is why my parents never pressure me to get a job, because they know how afraid I am to be around people.

What I want you know to first OP, and others who need advice, is that even when you have experience. Its still really fucking hard to back into working. You're not a alone on that at all its something we all have to go though.

I've only recently started work again after taking a 8 month "break" I basically raged quit my last job. Seriously . It took a really long time to finally find something again, even with experience.

And today, and probably for the next month or two I'm probably going to be -very- nervous going into work and theirs a high chance I'm going to throw up before every shift. Its fucking horrifying until you actually start the shift.

As for working in general, you have to remember that you are not the worst employee there as long as you show up on time and do as your told. Don't half ass your tasks, and don't be a douchebag. If you can manage this, and I guarantee you can because if I fucking can, anyone can. People kind of suck but as far as co workers know as long as you're polite and do your work properly, everything is fine. If its with teenagers, they'll either leave you alone after a week or just banter to you during the shift, which is fine since it passes times.

Customers are completely ignorable after a few hours of being in front of them. You honestly wont' remember a person after the shift since the exchange is usually less then a few minutes. Scared of them or not, you'll get over it quickly. Everyone does


As for getting a job.. Well your best bet is to just go in person. The best type of job for a shut in type I think is the strictly regulated type. Major chains like starbucks, tim hortons, mcdonalds, etc etc

most of the time they're always hiring, Just go in person, fill out the app and move on.

Good luck.


All the figs you can buy with a full time job.. Glorious. It beats being a NEET just for that

I wish I could give OP some advice, but I can't. I didn't get an actual job until literally my 24th birthday. I did some stuff before that, but none that paid. I ended up in retail of all places as that was my only career opportunity due to various circumstances. It goes without saying that I have social phobias.
I was scared to death for the first six months there. I really could have seen myself running away. Even though I have been there several years now, I still often have to psych myself up before shifts. I had hoped that it would help me be more social, and it did some, just not any where near as much as I would have liked.

How I ended up there and how it makes me feel could make two different threads. It may take some time before I can talk more about it though.

I was afraid to walk around handing out my CV as well. I only applied for jobs that were advertised over the internet, which are basically impossible to get because they receive hundreds of applications and most of those people have more experience than you or me. Even finding volunteer jobs can be hard.

The secret about finding work is that most job vacancies are not advertised. A lot of people get their first job through friends or family. If you dont know anyone IRL its going to be very difficult.

>>2973
A degree and certifications often don't mean shit unless you have some connections. Moving up in a company is nearly impossible without them too.

The whole world is against us...

I was given this protip a while back, I think it could do of some use here.

If you want to make money, it's better to setup a business, because working for someone usually doesn't amount to much. Trade off is more headache and less time, so if you want an EASY life I suggest working for the government.

I think all we can really do is go on disability for autism, social disorder, or some reason why we are inept at life. The world is against us.

>>3012
I've thought about trying this but my family would be so ashamed of me, even more so than they are now

>>3012
>The world is against us.
Hell yeah, but we've got each other.

>>3012

Don't do stuff like that unless its a last resort


Then there really is no turning back

>>3027

It sure doesn't seem like there is anything worth turning back to, though.

>>3027
You CAN get off of that stuff, if you 'pull yourself up'

Going for my first interview

Wish me luck guys

>>3100
Good luck!

>>3100
Tell us how it went. What did they ask etc.

>>3100
If your first doesn't go well, don't worry, the first never goes well. The first interview is usually a learning experience (so says my dad and college professors). I actually went on something like 20 interviews before I got hired (which I probably got lucky on because they were in a rush to hire, which isn't a problem at all since I have a job).

Not OP or anyone else in this thread; just a lurker. How does one answer "Why do you want to work here?", when the job is a pretty shitty one like a fast food cashier or something? The obvious answer is money, but will they really take bullshit like "I want to work because I really love this place?". Very troubling.

>>3114
You can honestly say that you want work experience. Works like a charm. They know shitty jobs are usually people's first job. If you are a bit older just say that you were doing freelance stuff in the past and want something more stable.

>>3101
>>3104
Thanks!

>>3102
It was way less awkward than I imagined.
In the first one I filled a simple test about personality and the interview was less than 5 minutes. It was all alright until she asked "Don't you have any references? friends? your 3DPD?" I can't imagine what face I did but hers looked like pity and laughter.

The second one was for a big faceless company.
A lot of tests about simple math, grammar, write a story, future goals and all that jazz. I don't know why they asked that if I'm looking for a grunt job. I think I have more chance of getting in this one but its 2 hours from home so I don't know if I'll take it.

tl;dr Just relax and let them guide the interview.

>>3143
I had the whole personality test when I applied for my cashier job. The people in HR just do this to justify their existence. As long as you don't crack you will be okay. A bit of a problem for our kind, but you can do it! I hope things work out for you.

Having money is indeed great. If you land this job, line up some figs or whatever you like. You earned them.

>>3147
They kinda do use the tests, I remember Taco Bell almost hired me way back because apparently my personality was good for working alone late at night and they needed someone to close up shop (but I was too young at the time).

>>3143
I hate the whole references thing.

There are people out there who don't have professional unrelated contacts. And they do need your shitty position. I don't need to give you contact info for three people who can reassure you that I can pour a fucking cup of coffee.

I really need a job and this thread has me a little optimistic.

I'm curious..for all of you that work, what do you do? I'd like try to find a job someone who has had no friends or social contact in 5+ years could do. Honestly I don't even remember how to have a conversation with someone in real life, so work seems impossible...

>>3161
You might work at, say, fast food. If you stay locked at a kitchen you barely need to talk to anyone, as long as you know how to cook what they taught you. It's basically just "open the plastic bags, mix everything, put it there".

>>3161
stack shelves at a supermarket. work nightshift if you dont want to deal with customers.

>>3161
Your holy grail is a night shift janitor position.

>>3161
I work with my dad doing construction work every once and a while. All I need to do is follow what people say and carry shit around, paint stuff, clean up, cut wood, that sort of thing. I'm extremely out of shape and it sucks working in the sun during the summer, but it still gets me enough money to pay for my hobbies.

Not sure what I'd do if I wanted to move out and hold a full time job. I'm sure as shit not doing construction work every single day.

>>3183
>>3183
How dickish is the environment there? I worked in "volunteer" work making a fence for my high school and the environment wasn't too bad (e.g. not stupid racist/sexist/homophobic "jokes" going around) but how is the environment in the "real world"