I could turn it this way, a different perspective: it isn't so much the ageing of the population rather the clash between classes in the societal hierarchy that poses a problem. This is clearly the root of any social problem and it has been since forever. In times were inequalities are reduced, things seem to go somewhat smooth. In times of economic difficulties, just like now, problems galore.

How do you want to work if your situation isn't stable? How do you want to focus on your studies if your family is being decomposed? How do you want to have motivation if everything in society pulls you down? How do you want to move forward in life if no one believes in you?

Rich kids aren't playing video games. They are studying and being successful. They can focus on their studies and their work because they have no worries. Their situation is stable, their family circle is united. Anyone opens up doors for them.

I'm sounding like a freaking Marxist, what the hell, but I think this is true. It isn't the only problem though.

If I get out of college now I can't expect to get a high paying job, perhaps even a job, period. The labor market is flooded. How's that to "work, you lazy failure"? Baby boomers grew up in an economic wonder, they didn't have any issues whatsoever. X generation had it somewhat good still but Y generation is a lost generation.

To me it seems like the job market has gone to medieval times. The blacksmith's son and whatnot. Kids get jobs through their parents and nobody hires a stranger.
But then again I've gotten jobs through my mother so maybe I shouldn't complain.

>>2289
>Implying it hasn't always been like that

>>2298
>Implying

Don't do this

>>2299
>implying we shouldn't imply

(USER WAS IMPLIED FOR THIS POST)

>>2300
According to the rules you shouldn't

>>2299
>Complaining about every little thing

Don't do thit.

Goodbye thread, it was fun knowing you. Let's do this for every thread shall we?

>>2298
>>2299
>>2300
>>2302

You are all reported for using >implying and then arguing about it.

>>2306
but hamish is a mod

>>2307
I know. That makes my post all the more silly.

over use of the quot function for things such as >implying or >my face when.

Could you guys possibly not derail threads for stuff like this?
Sure no one likes seeing threads with nothing but >implying, but just once here and there isn't so bad right?

>>2310
Exactly, I would call what the complainer did
>Excessive harassing

If this thread is any indication of a regular hikki, then hell yes it is our fault. If this is how we have conversations with each other man do I feel bad for the other people in our lives.

  >okay.jpg

I also believe media is also a culprit. We are, from birth, shown images of the rich, powerful, popular, influential and so on. We envy and try to shape our lives around the concept of success. This keeps us in a perpetual state of infancy, trying to grow up, progress, or just dream that one day we will have our time when everything falls into place and "happiness" is achieved.

For NEETs, hikis or anyone predisposed to being socially awkward, this is an awful effect because we don't know what the hell to do.

It is largely an effect of living in an information based society. Japan is a great example of this because of how interconnected it is. But you can find the "hikikomori effect" in many well developed nations where the variables come together; pressure on oneself from family and greater society to fit in and assimilate but where, on an individual level, we've all become disconnected from each other.

This leads us to forfeit it all, for whatever reason, and seclude ourselves. Out of fear, animosity, anxiety or perhaps a psychiatric issue. Meanwhile, the rest of society moves along, more miserable than us, but distracted with media, politics and the dream of one day having it all.

We're probably the most sane people when you look at it, but the rest of the world is so insane that we can't fit in.

Looks like this thread derailed so I won't write anything more.

Also, you might like this essay on the subject of baby boomers, their children, and the change in family concepts: http://www.walrusmagazine.com/articles/2010.09-society-the-boomerang-effect/1

>>2316
True, furthermore everyone here should analyze their situation:

Why are you here? Why are you the person you are? What led you to end like this and not be a successful member of society?

Everyone has got to have a reason. Maybe no one believed in us.

I'm gonna be a bosozoku. Who's in my gang?

It's no ones fault for being a hiki/neet.

Human beings are just results of genes and environment. For none of those factors are you responsible.

You're only responsible for the decisions you make once you're mentally mature, and that's in most cases not 18 years but somewhere around 30.

We all just had bad luck. Like some children are born without a leg, or some are hit by a falling brick from nowhere, we are victims of shitty parents and a bad environment.

Don't blame yourself, just accept it, take it easy and wait for death.

There is a certain unease in society, so much is true, whether it's baby boomers or something else like family deconstruction, that remains to be confirmed. We can only be hikki or NEET as long as the system permits us to be; staying at home and do "nothing".

Our parents won't live forever nor will our governments pay for our livings all eternity. If we don't socialize and work we don't get money. Without money we can't survive.

This means that either we kill yourselves when the system stops working or we get a job and work like the rest of the sheeple world.

>>2318
I would love to join your bosuzoku. Me on the bottom.

  hurray for boomers

This shit has always confused me to no end.

Can we even consider ourselves hikki? Compared to where the term come from the vast majority on this site only seem to be going though some pathetic phase of being loser before they snap out of it and go into the real world. Where over in japan its much worse, hell most of us leave our room rather regularly. At this point I think most of the people here were just influenced from the imageboard culture of "lol I'm different so I'm going to just myself out because other people are doing it."

I mean, we're either all in shit conditions, or we're just lazy stupid fucks that have no self respect or discipline. If its not our fault then whose is it? Our parents? If we're fully aware of that, can't we just simply change it with our own dedication and will power? Or are we just lazy retards who can't manage the simplest task without failing? It can't be that hard right, we just have the option to sit at our computer and be useless individuals because nothing happens, nothing changes. Considering most of us live with our parents or people who care for us, we don't even notice it.

I don't know what I'm getting at here. Fuck

I was a neet before being a neet was cool, fuck the posers

>>2389
>hell most of us leave our room rather regularly

I haven't left the house since Christmas, and I didn't want to then.

>>2389
I only leave my house to go to work.

Im not a hikikomori. I doubt that most of us are. There are many NEETs among us though, quite a few students who would otherwise be NEETs, and a few people who work the bare minimum number of days to survive and spend the rest of their time essentially as a hikikomori.

>>2390
My uncle was a Hikki before the internet came around. He's into politics though, not the stuff I'm in.