So how obscure and artsy are you?
I've heard of several of these, but never bothered to check them out, due to not being able to find subs (too obscure)/having low-ass disk space (too artsy). Angel's Egg, especially. That one always really piqued my interest. Looks so weird. And I also really love Amano's art style. Maybe I'll try and find it now... I've been meaning to watch it for years, but keep putting it off. I also really like the look of Tori no Uta (I do believe that's Mr. Amano again), Noiseman and Kigeki.
Been working my way going through some of the shorter Studio 4C and Bandai Visual stuff as of late, actually. Glassy Ocean has an awesome score.
I've seen 35 of those. >>38 Kigeki is an OVA from Sweat Punch. It's one of the better titles on that list too.
I've only seen like 5, I need to get to work on that.
>>41 Don't worry too much about it, out of that entire list I've only seen two of those shows. I should work on that as well, but where should I start?
>>42 Angel's Egg. If it's not included in the 2 you saw. I watched it at least 7 times since my last post. It's a brilliant, beautiful movie. I'm going to recommend it to the few people I know.
>>42 Tortov Roddle, Glassy Ocean, La Maison en Petits Cubes, and Country Doctor are all highly stylized shorts, and all pretty good. I'd recommend Windy Tales to anyone because it's just a great series, but it's not really that artsy or obscure. Same with Eve no Jikan. Everything by 4C on there is worth the watch. Avoid Vexille and Soul Taker. I'd probably start with something from 4C like Memories, or one of the shows from Masaaki Yuasa (Kemonozume, Cat Soup, Mind Game, Tatami Galaxy). You can also watch She and Her Cat, and Fumiko no Kokuhaku on youtube since they're like 5 minutes long. They're enjoyable, too.
Stuff like that doesn't interest me at all. And honestly, sometimes I have a feeling you guys will just eat up anything that seems slightly different from the usual stuff. Yeah, I'm a little butthurt because of all the elitist faggots who will take any opportunity to brag about how they're so unique to be able to put up with unaesthetic and dull anime that no one else talks about. Sorry.
>>45 If I was that elitist I wouldn't still be watching shit like Kaichou wa Maid-sama. If it makes you feel any better, pic related to how I was feeling when I was trying to watch Iblard Jikan. Just as you can't write them off as being good just because they're a little artsy or obscure though, you can't say that they're bad either. A good number of those are genuinely good.
>>45 Some of the anime on there like steamboy, I'd hardly call unique or all that different then normal anime. Not all that crazy about some of the other stuff that looks like it might be strange just to be strange.
I remember hearing about Cat Soup and how great it was and then watching it and thinking it was the dumbest thing I'd ever seen. Maybe watching anime like that, everything just goes over my head because I'm not smart enough to pick up any deeper meaning. I have seen a couple shows from that list that I liked though. Alien Nine, Eve no Jikan and especially Tatami Galaxy, it's probably the show I've enjoyed watching the most in the past year and a half, but those titles seem less "artsy" than some of the other ones. If you don't mind could anyone maybe give me some recommendations of anime that are similar to Tatami Galaxy? I've heard Kaiba is similar but that's all I've got so far.
>>48 I recommend you watch Kemonozume if you liked Tatami Galaxy. Great stuff.
>>48 Kaiba is great. That, The Tatami Galaxy, Mind Game and Kemonozume are all by the same director. If you liked Eve no Jikan, you should check out Pale Cocoon and Mizu no Kotoba. Those three are by the same director too.
>>48 Kaiba's pretty different from Tatami Galaxy. Mind Game is the closest in terms of thematic content, and it's just an absolutely fantastic movie. Watch it immediately. I think I've only watched slightly more than half on that list. My problem with a lot of the stuff that gets labelled "artsy" is that they tend to use a different artstyle for the sake of being different (which isn't inherently bad) while kind of ignoring other elements like plot or characters. So if the artstyle doesn't appeal to you, it's more likely to bore you. My favourite ones are the ones that can use its artstyle cohesively with its plot/atmosphere such as Wanwa the Puppy in Genius Party Beyond or Dead Leaves.
>>45 I won't lie about watching something simply because it looks different, what's wrong with that? It's nothing to brag about, though. There are things on this list that are genuinely good, and not because they're the most artsy or the most obscure. There are people who act exactly the way you described about these things though, and I agree, they're faggots. >>46 >pic related to how I was feeling when I was trying to watch Iblard Jikan Same here. It's really pretty and nice to look at, but it's no different from staring at a Thomas Kinkade painting for half an hour.
>>52 >>45 There's nothing wrong with enjoying an anime solely because of its different style of art/animation appeals to you, considering anime IS a visual medium. If visuals didn't matter at all, why even bother watching anime? Why not read a book instead? The way I see it, it's like enjoying a book that might have an interesting style of prose despite having a weak plot overall. Shoka on that list might've been a rather weak watch for me, since I found the story boring, but I still enjoyed it for its animation.
>>53 I think balance is important.
>>54 Balance can make a work great but it's rare to come across a work that's spectacular in every area. I'd much rather see an anime that's at least great in one of its areas (atmosphere, animation, characters, plot, etc) and below average in the rest, than see an anime that's just above average in all of its areas. But that's just me.
>>53 If you watch anime solely, or even primarily, for visuals then 90% of anime (or at least TV anime) wouldn't be worth watching. Most anime is comparable to live action television shows, which no one watches for the direction or cinematography despite being a visual medium. There is, of course, still anime that is meant to be enjoyed mainly for its art and animation. I think there's room for both types of anime, with the best ones being those that combine excellent visuals and storytelling.
>>56 To be frank, I think the large majority of anime fans do watch anime mainly for the visuals. Why else would you have so many people bitch about Panty & Stocking looking like a Western Cartoon, and passing off stuff like Kaiba just because it "looks weird" while sticking close to standardized anime style found in stuff like say, Clannad or Tora Dora?
>>51 >>52 Yeah, I can agree with both of these. I don't have a problem with people having a taste for more experimental animation and direction style, as long as they don't do it for some kind of self-fulfillment, so they can feel intelligent, and talk down on others who don't see a need to go too much out of the tried and true. You guys approach the subject quite maturely, you just have the misfortune of being among a fanbase that can be pretty loud and obnoxious. It's a relief to confirm that you guys are not the same as them.
I watched around 10 of those and disliked/hated all of them except for Petit Cubes. It's all pretentious shit. I'm not trolling.
I've seen exactly fifteen of those. I don't like to call them obscure or artsy (the fuck does that even mean) but maybe that's what they look like to a person who wasn't initiated to anime before or any of these kinds of shows. Some of those are in fact pretty bad because they fail to convey a clear message or are just for the sake of using a particular artstyle. Is that what people call pretentious? Most of those are what I would call regular anime. For instance studios like Madhouse are known to experiment with artstyle but I wouldn't put either of their works in the category "ART YOU CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO GRASP". I think I first got into anime because of the awesome, and by that I mean far more mature stories it offered compared to the episodic stories almost every western cartoon had at the time. The fast paced and extremely detailed art of anime was of course greatly appealing, as was the music. It simply was something new and different. These are still the reasons I enjoy anime today and why I enjoyed some of those shows on that list: for the sake of watching something that makes me think and not just BAM EXTREME DINOSAURS, let's go kill some bad guys.
Only a plebe would consider any of this obscure and artsy. I know this is intended to be ironic/LOL DEEP, but whatever. A lot of media uses philosophy, theories and unconventional art and cinematography. It does not mean it's trying to be deep. Star Trek was filled with philosophy, homage to old literature and music, and so on but it's a pretty cheesey show at times. The same goes for anime. Why can't writers or artists stray away from the mainstream without being considered pretentious or artsy? I've seen most of these and love them, but I don't see any of these shows or films to be "elitist" compared to your regular summer TV anime. Sure, there are obvious stylistic differences in art and meaning when comparing Railgun to Angel's Egg, but unless you're really stupid, none of this is really intended to be deep or teach you a lesson. It's high school level intellect enshrouded in flashy art.
I've seen a few of these anime before. Dead-Leaves is a classic, and so is Jin-roh. Kakurenbo is surprisingly short for a movie.
>>37 Things I've seen: She and her cat Steamboy Origin Things I've heard of: Memories Karas Vexille Jin-Roh I guess not very.
I only watch shows where the main character is a dude in highschool who pretty much doesn't do anything, but a lot of hot girls hang out with him and they're all secretly in love with him, but at the end he doesn't end up fucking any of them.
>>37 Here is how obscure and artsy I am: One of my favorite shows was Gallery Fake. Its about art, art history, art forgery, art appreciation. It is artsy without a doubt. So unpopular was this series that the people who subbed it just gave up before it ended because nobody wanted their efforts. Even raws of the last five episodes are unavailable. Gallery Fake is obscure, its artsy and its one of my favorites. Its so obscure that its not even in OP or maybe its so artsy that the type of troglodytes that try and define something as ethereal as creativity in their cookie cutter images and lists are not able to appreciate it. Either way
Alien Nine, Cat Soup and Requiem from the Darkness where some of my favorite anime when I was just getting into anime. I'd also recommend Take the X Train.
>>65 Feels kind of weird bumping such an old thread but in case you didn't know, all 37 episodes Gallery Fake is fully subbed as of Dec.22, 2010. I was reminded of it since I recently read through the first volume of the manga and it seemed like the type of series I'd rather watch as an anime, at an 1ep/week pace.
Watched She and her cat, la maison en petits subes, jin-roh, tweeny witches, eve no jikan, cat soup, dead leaves, tatami, angel's egg, 100 stories, mind game, kemonozume, and robot carnival Most of them were good
>>65 Hey, thanks a lot for that info about gararii fakku, looking forward to tracking down those last few eps.
lol, meant to quote >>2372 I'm 65-san