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2093 No. 2093 [Edit]
Is anyone else bothered by it when characters in anime die?

I find it simply horrible and depressing, and more often then not dislike the show for it.
But what really gets to be is when people make fun of it and joke about it, it's something I find very bothersome and down right aggravating.

I'm just wondering if it's only me, because it really dose seem like no one else cares, and that I'm over reacting about something silly.
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>> No. 2094 [Edit]
I only care if it's cute girl characters. I try to avoid shows that feature them dying
>> No. 2095 [Edit]
I don't think you're overreacting since everyone has varying preference levels of violence. Personally, I don't mind the macabre and I actually like violence in anime/manga when it's done very stylish.

What I am bothered by is when anime kill off characters as a cheap way to generate sympathy, moreso when that character is just some random cannon fodder who was only introduced for the sake of dying. One example that comes to mind is that one random admiral in LoGH who was tasked with recapturing Iserlohn for the Empire. I mean, the battle itself was interesting but is there really a need to do a whole sappy scene with his family and everything?
>> No. 2096 [Edit]
I may sound like an evil son of a bitch when I say that, but I got used to it.
I don't feel anything except maybe surprise if it happens too fast, and fun if it happens too slowly.
>> No. 2101 [Edit]
Depends on the character, as some characters I find incredibly interesting and don't want to die. Others I despise and want them to rot in hell.
>> No. 2102 [Edit]
It's rare that I ever feel anything for characters, but, for the ones I do, I tend to sympathize with ones that are in tough or hopeless situations. Deaths in anime never really bother me.
>> No. 2103 [Edit]
Not much, unless if it's a character that I really liked.
Other times, I wished certain characters would just die in a fire.

Otherwise, I just don't care.
>> No. 2104 [Edit]
It just means that you are really involved in the story, OP.

You are supposed to feel *some* emotion when someone or something you've grown attached to -even for a short duration- dies.

That said,

FUCK Now and Then, Here and There. Jesus Christ. I was physically depressed for weeks.
>> No. 2110 [Edit]
I'm bothered if it was a likable character.

If it was some random person who died the same episode they showed up in, not so much.

I don't mind death as long as there's a reason in it, because they're normally emotional deaths that pull you into the story more (like Mami)
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It depends. If I were to use the rule of thumb I'd say that it doesn't bother me anymore. The main reason for this is the simple fact that in 9 out of 10 cases (although 29/30 seems a little more accurate) death of a character is used as a terrible plot device and not much more than that. Bad writers just use it to make the character look like a hero and/or to (attempt to) make the reader/viewer feel sadness/sympathy for that character. As I've said, I just happened to develop immunity towards bad writing of this sort so I'm rather indifferent when someone dies, sorry.

My personal views on... various matters probably affect this. A lot. I just don't happen to think that death it THAT much of a tragedy. There are many worse things that I could imagine. For example in a book I recently read one of main heroines was raped repeatedelty and - needless to say - it made me rage. HARD. If it didn't happen to be a book I borrowed from a public library I'm pretty sure I would've torn it to pieces.

Of course there are some exceptions to that rule. I watched Kaiba a long time ago but a scene in one of the early episodes (it might've been ep 3) almost made me cry (as far as I recall there hasn't been a single instance where I actually cried after watching anime). Here's a short reminder of what happened if you can't recall it (which wouldn't be that surprising, Kaiba aired almost three years ago): Chroniko (it's pretty mind boggling but I recalled her name without any problems) wanted to sell her body to help out her stepfamily who were in rather desperate need for some cash. She was told that her memories will be transferred to one of those memory 'cones' and she would be given a new body later on. However, the guy who was supposed to extract her memories had some other plans (which her stepmother was aware of) and he simply 'released' her momories into the atmhosphere (i.e. he essentially killed her). This alone would probably make me sad even though in this case the character who died appeared like ~5 minutes (tops) before it happened (so there was little to no time to form any sort of emotional bond between her and the viewer) because you could tell that she was a very kind girl. But, as I previously mentioned I don't think death is such a great tragedy as the person/character who dies simply ceases to exist (well, I guess that wasn't exactly the case in Kaiba but lets leave it aside for now), so he/she won't feel any any pain/sadness/remorse because of it. However, in this case - and it really sealed the deal for me - he flat out told her what he's about to do few seconds before he 'killed' her and you could see all of those feelings in her expression. Had she died with a smile on her face (and she didn't exactly let the fact that she's gonna lose her body get to her) it would be sad, sure, but not tragic - at least not for me. But the way it was done was devastating for me.

I guess I do symphatize with fictional characters way too much. Actually, fictional stories move me much more than real ones (which probably isn't normal). Long ago I swore to myself I'm not gonna watch any harem/love traingle shows anymore as I hate watching heartbroken girls (well, I guess reverse harem works fine for me, yay for double standards). In this case it doesn't matter (ok, it does, but it's not the most importnant thing) whether the girl who 'lost' was a good one or a bitch in sheep's clothing - it makes me feel bad either way. Actually, in most cases I usually end up sympathizing with the latter. To use a somewhat up to date example I shipped Kurumi in KnT (mainly because I knew she had no chance at all). I watched the entire first season, the recent recap from her point of view and that's probably it for me, I doubt I'll ever watch the second season. I could name quite a few similar examples - for instance (to keep it Hirano Aya related) my favorite female heroine from Nana was (is? it's been like twenty years since the last chapter came out) Reira. I usually tend to like characters the majority of the fan base hates.

And there's another thing I wanted to mention (sorry for this wall of text, I swear I intended to write 3-4 sentences). The 'villains' in all kinds of media (it's not only an anime/manga related problem) don't feel 'villanious' at all, at least not to me. In most cases it looks like the exact opposite once you consider the 'villains' motivies and background (they are usually turned into 'villains' by circumastances which were out of their control) - it looks like the 'hero of justice' is just some kind of asshole who tries to destroy the 'villains' dreams and he uses his self righteous logic and moral judgement to justify it. I can't recall many cases in which I actually rooted for the 'good guy(s)' and I recall only one case where I was utterly disgusted at a mere sight of the 'villain' and I hated his guts with all my heart. This might be just me being perverse here but I know that there are many other people out there who feel the same way.
An entirely different thing are the 'embodiments of evil'. This is another case of bad writing. I'm currently watching Rainbow (I always wait until some decent group has finished subbing a show so I can watch it at my pace - I still hope someone will sub Kuragehime BDs because watching CR rips doesn't sound like the best idea) and Ishihara doesn't really invoke any kinds of feelings in me. As I said, I developed immunity towards bad writing and such one dimensional, cardboard characters are way too unrealistic for me to take them seriously. Also, I got spoiled already (fucking spoilers, that's all I can say) and I hear Rokurota is gonna die. From the look of things it might be another case of bad writing but I'll have to see it for myself to pass any sort of judgement.

>>2104

>FUCK Now and Then, Here and There. Jesus Christ. I was physically depressed for weeks.

Please use spoiler tags. Some of us haven't watched it yet.

Also, another case of me getting spoiled (Spike dies by the way) would be Madoka (I don't think there's a need for spoiler tags at this point in time). Then again, I pretty much knew that it won't be much till someone's gonna die the second I heard Urobuchi Gen is working on the script.
>> No. 2144 [Edit]
>>2141
Pretty sure everybody bawwed at the Chroniko episode.
>> No. 2145 [Edit]
Meh, doesn't really bother me, just a show really.
>> No. 2146 [Edit]
>>2141
>Please use spoiler tags. Some of us haven't watched it yet.
I would have honestly used spoiler tags were it not for the fact that it would be very obvious even from episode one that shit will hit the fan.

If you haven't watched it, I suggest you do so right now.
>> No. 2147 [Edit]
If the character was developed well, and you feel a special connection with him or her, then it can be tragic. More often than not it's just a cheap gimmick though.

If you're seriously upset over every fictional death in a carton, I really think you should try to figure out why, because that can't be healthy.

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