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26514 No. 26514 [Edit]
Anybody ever read nay philosophy?
Just so you know, Plato is the truth
>> No. 26515 [Edit]
I respect that anon's anger at laziness but why would I give two shits that I get 'remembered' in history? I'm already adverse to people remembering me while I'm alive, let alone while I'm dead, and I wouldn't frankly give a shit about this rock after I die, or the people and culture on it.
I really don't get fetishism about being super important in human history, or spending your entire life in a haze trying to get put into a history book somehow. I think it'd be better to spend that time working in smaller circles and trying to improve lives that way, or not bothering with even that and focusing on your own life, unles you really care about being some history head that'll get made fun of for his funny, outdated interests by worthless teenagers in a few hundred years.
>> No. 26516 [Edit]
What's nay philosophy?
>> No. 26518 [Edit]
Bullshit. That anon forgets the other side of the coin. The universe doesn't care if you're lazy, and it also doesn't care if you're not. It's also impossible to be "remembered forever".
>> No. 26519 [Edit]
>ever read nay philosophy?
Nay, I haven't
>> No. 26520 [Edit]
I've read Plato, Aristotle, Seneca, Saint Augustine, Abelard, Berkeley, Hume, Descartes, Kant, Rousseau, Nietzsche, Michelstaedter, Heidegger, Sartre, Marcuse, Sloterdijk, and others I can't even remember now. I doubt I could truly understand more than a 5% of all I read, and probably remember less than a 1%.
You need fertile land for a good harvest, even if you have the best seeds to plant they will be useless if you are into the middle of the desert. The desert means being fucking stupid.

Said that, I like to apply Plato and idealism to my apreciation of 2D, so I can justify it's actually not derivative of 3D but the other way around.
>> No. 26522 [Edit]
Most of the useful parts of philosophy have been subsumed into math/science. It feels like most of what remains in modern philosophy today is just arguing semantics or definitions.
>> No. 26525 [Edit]
Oh my God I'm sure the successful gogetter businessmen who work hard on making powerpoints and spreadsheets day in day out are very critical workers and history will remember them.
>> No. 26526 [Edit]
Other business humanoids might remember them if they did really well, or really fucked up.
>> No. 26527 [Edit]
If the whole point is simply to be remembered there's easier ways that don't require that much effort. Recent history have proved even two dumb depressed kids could figure how to do that, with astonishing success. You couldn't even say they are remembered in a particular bad way considering the number of admirers and imitators.

The classic ancient example of inmortality in history was Achilles. Ours is Steve Jobs. We don't care about moral examples, heroic deeds and beauty. But worse than that, we also don't care about who invents, innovates , creates. We only care about who makes the better business for himself, more money and better marketing.
Maybe that's why we idolize mass killers in the other hand, something's not right and we know it.
>> No. 26528 [Edit]
Not without looking them up. Nobody knows the guy that founded Coca Cola off the top of his head, and it's one of the biggest corporations around. Bezos, Gates, Jobs, and the rest will all be forgotten a generation after their death.
If you want everyone to remember you, you need to either forge a new country, significantly extend an existing country or start a religion. If people being able to look up your name easily is good enough, the most expedient way would probably be to get chisel your name half a meter deep into a granite mountainside somewhere. Future archeologists will stumble across it at some point.
Then again, what's the point of being remembered? There's nothing that makes a life goal of being remembered more worthwhile than a lifegoal of collecting a million empty cans of beer. Once you're dead, you either cease to exist and are therefore incapable of caring, in oblivion/heaven/hell for eternity and therefore don't care because it doesn't affect you, get reborn without memories, in which case you're again incapable of caring, or reborn with memories, in which case you don't care because you've had ten thousand names already.

As for philosophy, I've read Evola and Neoplatonists for the most part. Stoics too, but they seem lacking in my opinion.

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