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24601 No. 24601 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
What happened to all the people who used to inhabit imageboards ~10 years ago? Given how poor the quality of most are now, I find it hard to believe that they are still active in those same places. Did they simply accept the inevitability of change and abandon imageboards for good? (While I find it hard to believe that they'd switch to something like Facebook, it's not unprobable that many just joined discord groups, also simultaneously resulting in the gradual decline of irc). Are they still there in small numbers but just drowned out by the influx of newcomers and low-quality posts? Did they escape to some uber-secret sanctuary?

The recent 8ch exodus led me to browse some of their various spinoff boards; I thought that at least one might recapture the same spirit of old but unfortunately none really come close. Tohno-chan is still perhaps the only place I've found where where post quality remains relatively high and discussion is thoughtful.
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>> No. 26675 [Edit]
>>26674
I've never been to either and I've only learned about the former from TC, so.
>> No. 26676 [Edit]
>>26675
I'm saying this in general, not to any specific anon.
>> No. 26681 [Edit]
>>24683
No one gave this post a reply, so I just wanted to say I feel exactly the same way. Nothing seems to capture that moment, that same atmosphere, but with the same level of activity.
>> No. 26682 [Edit]
>>24683
but it was horrible

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22766 No. 22766 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Do you feel empty? Not really happy, not really sad, but alien and different from your surroundings. Only spiced up by the occasional shame brought about by base desire like lust and hunger. Like there's just nothing there at all within you.
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>> No. 26626 [Edit]
>>26585
I strongly believe that most friendships are a farce on both sides. During this so-called "pandemic" you'll find that many people lost contact with their so-called "friends" whereas such a situation is exactly when it seems the strongest bonds should have been forged. Maybe I'm too jaded from watching countless SoL that paint an idealized view of friendship, but it seems that in the real world "true" friendship is so rare that it's not worth it
>> No. 26630 [Edit]
>>26626
As I see it, friendship like in SOL shows is mostly a thing for children and teens, adults don't have friends that way.
>> No. 26635 [Edit]
>>26626
>>26630
It's true. I had wonderful friends whom I loved a lot when I was a kid and teen, but that all faded into a generalized feeling of just being with people because you got used to each other. No emotion or value is present. And it's not like I had many friends, just a few in fact. I no longer keep contact with them. To make matters interesting, I not only lost contact with them during the fake pandemic but I now see them as wholly worthless and unimportant to my life. I don't even feel lonely. I realized that they added absolutely nothing of value to my life.

Friendship really is something that belongs in childhood.
>> No. 26680 [Edit]
Yeah I'm feeling it and it really hits me hard. The only thing that really keeps me together is giving my time and energy to my family and what remaining friends I have. Thats when I feel like there's some fulfillment. There are days where I feel like everyone is just living their life without me. I feel like being an empty witness to it. Like being a ghost or a spectator at a game. You don't feel like a player or protagonist at all. But just someone who watches. I don't feel happy or sad. But a void in my mind and body keeps me doubting myself. "Why do I do this?", "Why do I continue?". It feels very shallow and unfulfilled when I have these thoughts on repeat. Man its so hard to get rid of it.

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26611 No. 26611 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
How do you deal with anxiety when its related symptoms can exacerbate anxiety in a vicious cycle? I'm rather weary about my health, so I tend to focus on minor details to the point of inducing panic.

Recently I've been feeling a little light-headed from time to time (probably because of allergies), and because I'm asthmatic I keep a pulse oximeter (small device that attaches to your finger that measure pulse rate and blood oxygen level) with me to make sure I'm alright. As I sit waiting, I unintentionally start worrying so my heart rate goes up and I start breathing faster, and my palms get clammy. When it finally picks up on my vitals, I'll usually have a heart rate in excess of 120 bpm and SpO2 of 96% (good, and normal blood oxygen level). Regardless, I'll keep focusing on it, and start unconsciously hyperventilating causing my blood oxygen level to start dropping and my heart rate to eventually rise to 150 bpm or higher. And upon seeing my falling blood oxygen level, I'll really start panicking and hyperventilating in earnest (monkey brain says breathe more even though hyperventilation depresses nervous activity and causes a rapid decrease in blood CO2, leading to further decreased blood oxygen level, potentially leading to fainting if a normal breathing pattern cannot be resumed). Another source of panic is the accuracy of the pulse oximeter. With cold hands, or sweaty palms, the accuracy of the pulse oximeter drastically falls; when in actuality the person may have a SpO2 of 96 or greater, the reading on the pulse oximeter may read 85% and below, which indicates a dramatically low blood oxygen level, possibly imminently close to fainting. What is especially distressing about hyperventilation are the effects of as one reaches closer to fainting: from your hands and feet, a creeping tingling numbness rises through your limbs, your vision tunnels and dims, your limbs become useless as you lose coordination, your speech slurs, and intense fear grips you. Meanwhile, though your senses dull, your mind remains racing and conscious as it nears closer towards fainting.

That's not even mentioning that my anxiety is so severe that I experience random rapid muscle twitches. They're more annoying than anything, but still. Another more impactful source of anxiety is that I regularly feel some degr
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>> No. 26653 [Edit]
Anxiety can also be caused by purely bodily stuff like junk food or poor posture / wasted muscles. But if this has been going on for years you would have notice some pattern in this anxiety already.

My 2 cents on meditation: it will not make magic on the long term but can't hurt either. Just observe the thoughts, don't try to suppress them or shoo them away. Direct your attention into the body or at your breathing. And if you "fail" at it in any way don't beat yourself up for it.
>> No. 26656 [Edit]
>>26653
>Just observe the thoughts
People always say this, but what does this mean? When I start thinking of something and I realize that I'm thinking about it, and shift my attention back to consciously breathing, is that the correct thing to do? I wouldn't really call that "observing," but I haven't read any other techniques.
>> No. 26657 [Edit]
>>26653
>Anxiety can also be caused by purely bodily stuff like junk food or poor posture / wasted muscles
Can also be caused by vitamin deficiencies. Vitamin D is the easiest to fix (go out in the sun) and also probably one that most imageboard-dwellers are deficient in, followed by things like magnesium (can also cause insomnia) or b12 (if you eat meat rarely).

>Just observe the thoughts, don't try to suppress them or shoo them away
and adding on to >>26656
After some more reading I guess I'm not doing anything wrong, and that's what "observing" thoughts are? Basically by virtue of the fact that the mind is mostly serial (as opposed to parallel), your attention can only be given to one thing so if you become "aware" of the fact that you're thinking about something (that is, become aware of the thought in a meta-sense instead of just naively letting the thought unfold by itself), then you naturally stop the unfolding of that thought and prevent the growth of any sub-thoughts that might have arisen (which some people call "collapsing" the thought).

Calling it "observation" is a bit of a misnomer to me since it implies that it's some sort of passive/idle thing, but the process of noticing you're engaged in a thought and shifting attention back is inherently active. I guess the intent of calling it "observation" was to underscore some philosophical point about separation between "you" and "your thoughts," but that just feels like the semantic wordgames of philosophy – it's not really some deep insight that thoughts arise by themselves mechanically in response to stimulus or past thoughts.

But either way, yeah I can see how getting good at shifting focus to prevent the unfolding of thoughts will naturally lead to reduced wandering of the mind and prevent you from getting caught up in those thoughts. And maybe over time the interval between th
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>> No. 26666 [Edit]
>>26656
By observe I mean just let the thoughts be. If a thought pops into your head it's not a signal that you need to engage in thinking about that stuff. You can if you want to.

>shift my attention back to consciously breathing, is that the correct thing to do?

yo. but I would say try to relax your body. When the tension from the body goes away the breathing will become less tense and compulsory thinking slows down. Keep experimenting. I used to find most tension in my jaw, face muscles, neck, arms, shoulders, chest.

>>26657
>Can also be caused by vitamin deficiencies. Vitamin D is the easiest to fix (go out in the sun) and also probably one that most imageboard-dwellers are deficient in, followed by things like magnesium (can also cause insomnia) or b12 (if you eat meat rarely).

Magnesium by all means. Stress eats it up. Vitamin D deficiency seems to cause lethargy and generally feeling like crap. I dont know about B12 specifically but I've read that taking B-complex reduces stress.

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26641 No. 26641 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
Why do we have so few ways of saying "sad", and why do they all mean basically the same thing? We have unhappy, melancholy, depressed, suffering, etc, but there are so many different kinds of sadness that those words don't even begin to cover. For instance, this one I have right now is kind of acidic, and unlike most sadnesses I've felt so far that felt like a hole or a knot inside me, that just made me feel empty and desolate, this one feels like its tugging me by my tummy, making me feel like I have to go DO something to fix it, but I don't know what. There's definitely no word for it. I hear french is the best language for this, but no matter how many words they have for sadness its nowhere near enough. There should be thousands and thousands of words for "sad", all of them meaning slightly different things, like the eskimos have thousands and thousands of words for snow, to cover every single kind of snow in maximum detail. They have so many words for "snow" because they come into contact with it so often, and what human being in the world doesn't have just as much experience with sadness as an eskimo does with snow?
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>> No. 26643 [Edit]
>>26641
>his one feels like its tugging me by my tummy, making me feel like I have to go DO something to fix it, but I don't know what
Sounds like despair or frustration.
>> No. 26645 [Edit]
>>26641
You can modify the words we do have with adjectives (as you said "acidic" is a good one). You could reciprocally ask why we don't have very many words for happiness either, and the answer is I think similar: we trade off by modulating expression at the unit of the sentence instead of the word.
>> No. 26646 [Edit]
Isn't the word for that Anxiety?
>> No. 26647 [Edit]
>>26646
Anxiety can come about as a result of feeling distressingly aimless, but anxiety is not the feeling they're describing. Anxiety is a distressing feeling of unease and clouded judgement, which when advantaged can also manifest various physical symptoms ranging from elevated heart rate, sweating, high blood pressure, muscle twitching, headaches, and more. Not to mention the possibility for developing psychosomatic illness; literally illnesses created by the mind, that typically completely subside following consultation with a doctor.

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26636 No. 26636 hide watch quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
this entire world was formed to cause me as much pain as it possibly could
>> No. 26637 [Edit]
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>>26636
That's expensive sausage!
>> No. 26644 [Edit]
she buy sausafe

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26599 No. 26599 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
i do not want to work to afford to live any longer
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>> No. 26603 [Edit]
Interesting to see my exact thoughts, just as I visit this place again.
I'm trying to make it, though. It's not going well, sadly.
>> No. 26604 [Edit]
>>26603
If you fail, at least you can say that you tried. Good luck.
>> No. 26639 [Edit]
>>26600
live in a frugal and efficient manner while pouring money into investments to create enough passive income to one day live off of?
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26640
>>26639
With current salaries, I don't see how that would be possible. I already save 70% of what I earn and I'm living as miserable as I can, I don't even eat. Most safest way to have a passive income would be owning an apartment and renting it. But I'll have to buy one shitty for me and one decent to rent, that would take me, at this pace, 23 years, all that considering I would be able to keep my current job (and I don't even want to keep it since it sucks).
I don't think I'm even going to be alive in 23 years.

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26553 No. 26553 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I really like this board. In fact this may be the best board out of all the imageboards I've seen. You guys are alright. Why does it seem nowhere is as honest as here?
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>> No. 26566 [Edit]
>>26553
If you look at other imageboards, it seems they usually suffer from two (not necessarily orthogonal issues): loose moderation that lets low-quality discussion fester, and a userbase that cares more about being part of some "in-group" than discussing things.

TC's rules are not only conducive to discussion in general, but also have a slant towards ensuring that the site remains somewhat focused on otaku and tangential interests. when paired with moderators who competently enforce them, these rules help maintain the integrity of the existing userbase. And the userbase is of course probably the most crucial element, since what used to be decent places have been ruined by people treating it as a "dumping ground" – where they care more about the validation from posting some image-macro or inane phrase rather than continuing the discussion. Reddit is the prototypical example of this, and the prevalence of platforms like discord further exacerbates this since it fundamentally changes the nature of discussions, favoring short remarks over well thought out posts.
>> No. 26598 [Edit]
Most people got here from tohno linking it on the /a/ or /jp/ over a decade ago, or from word of mouth, so everyone here is a probably a hardcore nerd otaku loser.
>> No. 26619 [Edit]
>>26598
Kinda unrelated but I got here from googling doft ponk and found a thread on /fig/.
Still, compared to the rest of the internet this place feels like a haven for people like us
>> No. 26638 [Edit]
>>26598
I pretty much agree, being an old and slowish imageboard means that Tohno-chan attracts only a certain kind of people.

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25323 No. 25323 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Post random things you remember. Little things that left an impression on you.

I was driving with my mom somewhere around the time I was in middle school. It was a long ride. I summarised the plots of eva and saya no uta to her. She seemed bored and a little put-off, but I think she was listening. Then she started talking about how Japanese people have a genetic propensity for cruelness which explained why they would make such things. I thought it was an interesting theory.
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I was at my middle school graduation, walking in a straight line with the others in my grade to the gym. This girl I talked to a few times in math class who was behind me suddenly said "Anon, nobody likes you". Not in a loud voice, but enough from me to hear. My initial reaction was confused disbelief. At that point, I remembered hearing she had done something similar before to another girl. I guess was that that's her "bullying strategy", waiting until the last moment to insult somebody so she wouldn't be reprimanded. The entire rest of the ceremony was left, so I decided to emotionally numb myself and disassociate from my surroundings.

We sat in rows in the center of the gym and would get called up one by one. We then had to walk to the front onto a stage, say our name in a microphone, and receive a t-shirt from the principal. Everybody that went up got an overly loud applause, mostly from their friends. I just waited and waited, totally out of it until they called on me. I went up and said my name. A lot of people didn't clap and the applause was noticeably quieter than other peoples'. I got the stupid t-shirt and went back to my seat.

Few years later, my highschool graduation was coming up. I decided not to go to it because of my previous experience, and this one would require us to go to school an extra day and do a whole rehearsal. Strangely enough, I was kind of friendly with the highschool gym teachers. I wasn't athletic or did any sports, but I talked with them fairly regularly. Maybe it was out of pity or something, but I don't know for sure.

While we were signing something for the graduation in our gym, I went up to them and explained I wouldn't be doing it and hadn't bought the gown and shit. They were genuinely upset. Like I was committing sacrilege. One of them basically ordered me go to the office and tell the people there I wanted to buy a gown. I did go there, but instead told them I wouldn't be doing it and they needed to mark me as being absent or something.

I let the guy know I did this via email later that day. He responded that he wanted to see me, which got me a bit nervous. So I went to the gym teachers' office and he was sitting there alone. Instead of getting mad, he got weirdly sentimental and started going o
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>> No. 26508 [Edit]
>>26507
I had someone at a job say something similar to my face. Didn't mean much though, her opinion meant nothing to me anyway. Besides, this person wasn't exactly popular at this work site, I've had to listen to others endlessly complain about them while not giving two shits then either. Popularity means nothing if these people can't or wont do anything for you anyway. Might as well be told an ant doesn't like you.
>> No. 26511 [Edit]
To contrast the thoughtful posts, today I remembered the night where my dad hurriedly walked into my room as I was enjoying a nukige. There was the typical awkwardness and embarrassment, but that's expected and uninteresting. Instead, what impressed upon me was his remark (paraphrased): "Why do they look like aliens?" Later that night we watched a movie about aliens. I'm not sure if it was on purpose or not.
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In fifth grade, I was standing around an empty hallway one day and picked up a quarter from the floor. A bit after, the principal came in from around the corner. I remembered it was his birthday today, so I gave him the quarter and said happy birthday. He was clearly uncomfortable and trying to act glad. I really enjoyed that.

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26312 No. 26312 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [Last 50 posts]
Last one (>>23024) hit the bump limit.
It was nice having a thread to casually express those somber thoughts.
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>> No. 26628 [Edit]
>>26627
If you have any conceptual questions, post on /navi/ and perhaps one of us can help? I think it's far more likely that your prof half-asses explanations or doesn't provide the proper intuition than you not being capable. In fact I believe even eight graders are capable of understanding calculus on an intuitive level (and for most purposes, that's all you need unless you're planning on taking real-analysis).

Calc 3 is multivar calc right?

This is one area where teaching pedagology is horribly flawed – if your professor is not taking a linear-algebra approach to multivar calc, then you are being done a disservice and it's no wonder everything seems like unsubstantiated trickery. The multivarible chain rule in particular – if the explanation you're given is just some tree-diagram and some hand-wavy stuff about "accounting for all possibilities" then that explanation is point-blank incomplete (it's a handy mnemonic, but only a mnemonic). Now it's true that understanding the "real explanation" – that derivative is a linear map T such that for any function f and small enough v, you have f(p+v) ≈ f(p) + T(v) requires a bit more background in linear algebra to appreciate, but this definition genearlizes naturally to the multivariable case as well (where v now becomes a vector) and the chain rule simply becomes composition of linear maps aka matrix multiplication. This can generalize further to not just real-valued functions, but to maps between manifolds as well, and in this light the derivative can be thought of as a map between tangent spaces. The book by hubbard & hubbard "Vector calculus, linear algebra, and differential forms a unifying approach" is the only place I know that treats this right, but it might be a bit intimidating if you've never taken linear algebra before.

Similarly, the theorems about integrals of curl/div/grad are all unified under the framework of differential forms, as seen by Stoke's theorem. But if you just want to understand div/grad/curl intuitively I recommend the book "Div, grad curl and all that" which requires no prior background knowledg
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26629
>>26625
>I hate being so anxious and uncertain and worrying about everything (no matter how minor).
I am the same and things are getting a lot worse as of late. The smallest setbacks makes me feel like I'm on the verge of breaking down, everything seems amplified.
>> No. 26631 [Edit]
>>26628
I don't have a professor as I'm learning it by myself with a textbook. I'll take a look at that book you're recommending, but I barely understood anything you wrote in the third paragraph. Frankly, the issue is one of problem-solving and "true thinking". Thanks regardless.
>> No. 26632 [Edit]
>>26631
I see, if you're learning by yourself then jumping into hubbard & hubbard's book is probably a bit too much right now. But the fact that you're learning by yourself with a textbook is strong evidence to me that the problem isn't with you, it's with the textbook. I've never seen a calculus textbook (other than hubbard & hubbard) which is good at giving you the intuition, so again if you think you're not understanding something at an intuitive level feel free to post on /navi/

There shouldn't really be much of an issue with problem solving in calculus though since the exercises in the book usually all follow the same pattern.

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23463 No. 23463 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit] [First 100 posts] [Last 50 posts]
Is this the only anime/weeb community left that hasn't been over run by children?
Every time I find a new one to join it's the same thing, retarded teenagers who wont shut up about school or spoiled rich kids and their college crap. It's all "dur hur I'm gonna be a doctor I'm gonna be a laywer" fuck you. I feel so fucking old lately and this shit doesn't help one bit. It's just so ackward being in these servers/channels with kids that are half my age. Not that it's uncommon here either. Where the fuck are all the 30+ weebs? Do they just kill themselves when they hit 30 or do they turn into normal fags and quit the internet? What the fuck man.
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>> No. 26549 [Edit]
>>26548
When you die you can't think. You have no mind whatsoever. Death is total annihilation of the mind from existence. And nobody forgot who they were either. There was no amnesia involved.

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>> No. 26550 [Edit]
>>26548
They didn't die they melded into one, it was clearly a metaphor for the red menace.
>> No. 26551 [Edit]
I don't even watch or like Evangelion but Anno was influenced by the ending of Childhood's End. There is also nothing political about it.
>> No. 26552 [Edit]
>>26541
>Romance and Ecchi lose to hentai
Absolutely not. These are all 3 completely different forms of appeal, and most hentai anime is fucking terrible.
>Moe Anime is declining as V-tubers rise because it's cheaper to produce and more profitable
These are completely unrelated things, and as someone who seeks out moe/iyashikei series every season I can usually find one or two that fit that bill, for instance Super Cub this season.
>>26548
You realize they rejected instrumentality in the end right?

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25306 No. 25306 hide watch expand quickreply [Reply] [Edit]
I hate having to go outside. I don't want to be around people and exposed to the elements. I hate it out there. I regret even thinking I wanted to go out somewhere.
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>> No. 25359 [Edit]
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Same, yet I love when a shaft of sunlight manages to get past my curtains and shines some forgotten object on my table or the tiny floating specks of dust and for a second there the entire apartment feels really quiet and beautiful. I also like very much when the evening comes and I can hear people and their vehicles at a distance, all rushing back home under that orange glow the sky gets sometimes. I like to look on a sunday morning through my window and there's absolutely no one on the streets. The outside looks really cool when you're on the inside, well, protected and cozy.
When I have to go outside though it kind of sucks, yeah. I get this feeling I'm prepping to go to a danger zone (which it is for all I know) and I have this mental checkup of all things I'll need to survive the 15 minutes I'll be out to do the groceries. The outside feels huge and clumsy. I can go from one end of my apartment to the other in about 16 steps or so. That's just enough to cross the first street on the outside.
The worst part however is also the most interesting. Inside my apartment I'm in a state of undiluted concentration and I only fully realize that when I'm back from the outside. For example, recently I was at this store and I saw some girl with a bunch of cut scars all across both her arms. I've seen that plenty in pictures online but never irl before. That bothered me for weeks for some reason. I don't like having too much real stuff inside my head, I think that's the source of my dislike for the outside. I like the outside like a painting in front of my window, I like there are people on the outside that makes this isolated life I lead possible but to be part of it is pretty rough and I don't like it.
I think this is a very old feeling, isn't this feeling basically why monks exist in all cultures? I don't know.
>> No. 26539 [Edit]
I like going outside for walks through the forest but I also do not like encountering people so I tend to only go when the weather is really bad, so it feels like I have most of the outside world to myself.
>> No. 26540 [Edit]
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I don't hate the 'outside', I hate people. I'd go out more if I didn't live in a filthy, dense metropolis. Seems like that's the general consensus in this thread anyway. I wish I'd lived in a quiet countryside.
>> No. 26542 [Edit]
>>26540
At least in a big city no one notices you. In the countryside every neighbour is going to know you and be inquisitively interested in you.

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